Stephanie McMahon\'s Secre

SMSL's Plug n Play Championship - FM 2012

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Haha, well I had a bit of success with them on a few saves, but generally it's based on the players your using, rather than the tactic. Although that's less of the case with some tactics like Mr.Hough's.

You might be surprised how badly some of those tactics in the forum would do here. ;)

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Yeah, most of those tactics rely on players not sucking to some degree. We need tactics that are more like we used in elementary school "Get the ball to Steve and hope he scores and try not to hurt anyone or yourself in the process".

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Next up is 18Rabbit's 424 or if you prefer a 442 with wingers. After the last couple of tactics it was time to hit the bottom bits of the barrell again. 8th in overall standing and also lost every single cup game.

NorthernIrishSecondDivisionOverview_Stages-11.png

And the Squad...

SeapatrickSquad_Players-15.png

And the current standings...

 [font=courier new][size=3][size=3]POS TACTIC                   POS  PLD WON DRW LST FOR AGA GDF [b]PTS [/b]FAC LGC INT MUL TYPE
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1st [/size][url="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21395126/Football Manager/SMSL Tactics/4-4-2 Tight Counter.tac"][size=3][color=#2b588f]Biscotti 442TC[/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   8   6  16  35  54 -19  [b]30[/b]  3R  2R  1R  1R Creator
2nd S[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?4t60h6bh81hjrde"][size=3][color=#2b588f]hyBaldBuddhist - 4132T[/color][/size][/url][size=3]M 14th  30   7   5  18  29  53 -24  [b]26[/b]  3R  2R  1R  QF Creator
3rd [/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?5c9g378x7bvb169"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132[/color][/size][/url][size=3]             16th  30   6   7  17  23  54 -31  [b]25  [/b]4R  2R  1R  QF Creator
4th [/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?dsin4m1eyw3xmbm"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 442 DM[/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   4   6  20  26  66 -40  [b]18  [/b]2R  3R  1R  QF Creator
5th j[/size][url="http://www.2shared.com/file/S3V-v-cL/Ecosse.html"][size=3][color=#2b588f]imbowmanuk SW [/color][/size][/url][size=3]          15th  30   3   7  20  21  64 -43  [b]16[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
6th [/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6465swgvkud8uka"][size=3][color=#2b588f]stothy - 442[/color][/size][/url][size=3]             15th  30   4   4  22  27  79 -52  [b]16  [/b]2R  2R  2R  1R Classic
[font=courier new] 7th [url="http://www.mediafire.com/?y1awkli4z86g7c2"][color=#2b588f]Elnaith - 532[/color][/url]            15th  30   2   9  19  34  66 -32  [b]15  [/b]5R  3R  2R  1R Creator
8th [url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"]18Rabbit - 424[/url]           15th  30   4   3  23  26  75 -49  [b]15[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
9th [url="http://www.mediafire.com/?c3baoqe2p619y1f"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 442[/color][/url]             15th  30   2   7  21  21  68 -47  [b]13  [/b]3R  1R  1R  1R Creator
10th [url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6soh6atakoisvpf"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 5221[/color][/url]            16th  30   2   4  24  21  70 -49  [b]10[/b]  2R  2R  1R  SF Creator
11th [url="http://www.mediafire.com/?9y4muxnrg9pc4n3"][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132b[/color][/url]            16th  30   0   5  25  12  66 -54   [b]5[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator[/font]
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Only one to avoid relegation so far \0/

The lack of a DM and too many attacking midfielders is a slight problem for most formations I use. Will try and develop something new and try again.

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Only one to avoid relegation so far \0/

The lack of a DM and too many attacking midfielders is a slight problem for most formations I use. Will try and develop something new and try again.

True but the idea is to find the best plug n play tactic. Not necessarily trying to find the best one for THIS team. The fact that a 4132 leads the way with the team not having a DM proves that somewhere there should be even better plug n play tactics out there that ANY side can use succesfully. :D

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The moment I spotted a tactic called dominator used by someone called Tactic Master and used with Man Utd, I expected a poor tactic but would only the 2nd classic style tactic from Tactic Master impress us? Er... NO!!!

10th position in our rankings and conceeded a massive 88 goals!!!

NorthernIrishSecondDivisionOverview_Stages-12.png

The squad...

SeapatrickSquad_Players-16.png

And where it fits in our plug n play championship...

 [font=courier new][size=3][size=3]POS TACTIC                   POS  PLD WON DRW LST FOR AGA GDF [b]PTS [/b]FAC LGC INT MUL TYPE
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1st [/size][url="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21395126/Football Manager/SMSL Tactics/4-4-2 Tight Counter.tac"][size=3][color=#2b588f]Biscotti 442TC[/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   8   6  16  35  54 -19  [b]30[/b]  3R  2R  1R  1R Creator
2nd S[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?4t60h6bh81hjrde"][size=3][color=#2b588f]hyBaldBuddhist - 4132T[/color][/size][/url][size=3]M 14th  30   7   5  18  29  53 -24  [b]26[/b]  3R  2R  1R  QF Creator
3rd [/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?5c9g378x7bvb169"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132[/color][/size][/url][size=3]             16th  30   6   7  17  23  54 -31  [b]25  [/b]4R  2R  1R  QF Creator
4th [/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?dsin4m1eyw3xmbm"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 442 DM[/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   4   6  20  26  66 -40  [b]18  [/b]2R  3R  1R  QF Creator
5th j[/size][url="http://www.2shared.com/file/S3V-v-cL/Ecosse.html"][size=3][color=#2b588f]imbowmanuk SW [/color][/size][/url][size=3]          15th  30   3   7  20  21  64 -43  [b]16[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
6th [/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6465swgvkud8uka"][size=3][color=#2b588f]stothy - 442[/color][/size][/url][size=3]             15th  30   4   4  22  27  79 -52  [b]16  [/b]2R  2R  2R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[font=courier new] 7th [url="http://www.mediafire.com/?y1awkli4z86g7c2"][color=#2b588f]Elnaith - 532[/color][/url]            15th  30   2   9  19  34  66 -32  [b]15  [/b]5R  3R  2R  1R Creator
8th [url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424[/color][/url]           15th  30   4   3  23  26  75 -49  [b]15[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
9th [url="http://www.mediafire.com/?c3baoqe2p619y1f"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 442[/color][/url]             15th  30   2   7  21  21  68 -47  [b]13  [/b]3R  1R  1R  1R Creator
10th [url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667704/The+Dominator+(Man+Utd%2C+Nov+2011).tac"]Tactic Master 41122[/url]      16th  30   3   4  23  34  88 -54  13  2R  1R  3R  1R [i]C[/i][i]lassic[/i]
11th [url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6soh6atakoisvpf"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 5221[/color][/url]            16th  30   2   4  24  21  70 -49  [b]10[/b]  2R  2R  1R  SF Creator
12th [url="http://www.mediafire.com/?9y4muxnrg9pc4n3"][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132b[/color][/url]            16th  30   0   5  25  12  66 -54   [b]5[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator[/font]
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So what about Tactic Master's "Lower League Goals" creator tactic? Well a record number of league goals (43) however, the tactic struggled to keep the opposition out. It wasn't a bad attempt though. The tactic is our 4th best but still relegation could not be avoided.

NorthernIrishSecondDivisionOverview_Stages-13.png

The Squad

SeapatrickSquad_Players-17.png

The Merit Table

[font=courier new][size=3]  [font=courier new][size=3][size=3]POS TACTIC                   POS  PLD WON DRW LST FOR AGA GDF [b]PTS [/b]FAC LGC INT MUL TYPE
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1st [/size][url="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21395126/Football Manager/SMSL Tactics/4-4-2 Tight Counter.tac"][size=3][color=#2b588f]Biscotti 442TC[/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   8   6  16  35  54 -19  [b]30[/b]  3R  2R  1R  1R Creator
2nd S[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?4t60h6bh81hjrde"][size=3][color=#2b588f]hyBaldBuddhist - 4132T[/color][/size][/url][size=3]M 14th  30   7   5  18  29  53 -24  [b]26[/b]  3R  2R  1R  QF Creator
3rd [/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?5c9g378x7bvb169"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132[/color][/size][/url][size=3]             16th  30   6   7  17  23  54 -31  [b]25  [/b]4R  2R  1R  QF Creator
4th [url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667739/Lower+League+Goals+(Big+Teams)+(Tottenham%2C+Aug+2011).tac"]Tactic Master 41122LL[/url]    15th  30   6   5  19  42  73 -31  [b]23[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
5th [/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?dsin4m1eyw3xmbm"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 442 DM[/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   4   6  20  26  66 -40  [b]18  [/b]2R  3R  1R  QF Creator
6th j[/size][url="http://www.2shared.com/file/S3V-v-cL/Ecosse.html"][size=3][color=#2b588f]imbowmanuk SW [/color][/size][/url][size=3]          15th  30   3   7  20  21  64 -43  [b]16[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
7th [/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6465swgvkud8uka"][size=3][color=#2b588f]stothy - 442[/color][/size][/url][size=3]             15th  30   4   4  22  27  79 -52  [b]16  [/b]2R  2R  2R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[font=courier new] 8th [url="http://www.mediafire.com/?y1awkli4z86g7c2"][color=#2b588f]Elnaith - 532[/color][/url]            15th  30   2   9  19  34  66 -32  [b]15  [/b]5R  3R  2R  1R Creator
9th [url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424[/color][/url]           15th  30   4   3  23  26  75 -49  [b]15[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
10th [url="http://www.mediafire.com/?c3baoqe2p619y1f"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 442[/color][/url]             15th  30   2   7  21  21  68 -47  [b]13  [/b]3R  1R  1R  1R Creator
11th [url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667704/The+Dominator+(Man+Utd%2C+Nov+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122[/color][/url]      16th  30   3   4  23  34  88 -54  [b]13[/b]  2R  1R  3R  1R [i]C[/i][i]lassic[/i]
12th [url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6soh6atakoisvpf"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 5221[/color][/url]            16th  30   2   4  24  21  70 -49  [b]10[/b]  2R  2R  1R  SF Creator
13th [url="http://www.mediafire.com/?9y4muxnrg9pc4n3"][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132b[/color][/url]            16th  30   0   5  25  12  66 -54   [b]5[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator
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What about the classic version I uploaded?

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Decided I would try again with the 4132 formation but this time it's the one I had success with. There are a few tweaks to players duties and hopefully we can take the lead again with this one.

Classic - 4132 Minsk

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4-5-1 counter

I use this tactic for mid-table teams on fm11 ; let's see if it works on fm12 :p

creator tactic

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Thanks for putting my tactics through their paces :D I expected nothing less from the first as it was used with Man Utd, but the 2nd one I used with Halifax first off, then tweaked it and used with a few different clubs and it did well. I'm glad it did well in terms of the tactics table :)

I think I have a few others lying about, so i'll upload those soon.

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Very happy with my performance there :) may not have survived, but seeing as I sit top of the table you have to assume that it's due to the other teams' performances rather than ours.

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So onto 18Rabbit's second tactic. His 424 classic is actually still a creator tactic LoL. However, it has done much better than the last tactic amassing 24 points but still, like so many before, relegated.

NorthernIrishSecondDivisionOverview_Stages-14.png

The Squad

SeapatrickSquad_Players-18.png

And the standings...

[font=courier new][size=3][font=courier new][size=3] [font=courier new][size=3][size=3]POS TACTIC                   POS  PLD WON DRW LST FOR AGA GDF [b]PTS [/b]FAC LGC INT MUL TYPE
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1st [/size][url="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21395126/Football Manager/SMSL Tactics/4-4-2 Tight Counter.tac"][size=3][color=#2b588f]Biscotti 442TC[/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   8   6  16  35  54 -19  [b]30[/b]  3R  2R  1R  1R Creator
2nd S[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?4t60h6bh81hjrde"][size=3][color=#2b588f]hyBaldBuddhist - 4132T[/color][/size][/url][size=3]M 14th  30   7   5  18  29  53 -24  [b]26[/b]  3R  2R  1R  QF Creator
3rd [/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?5c9g378x7bvb169"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132[/color][/size][/url][size=3]             16th  30   6   7  17  23  54 -31  [b]25  [/b]4R  2R  1R  QF Creator
4th [url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"]18Rabbit - 424 classic[/url]   15th  30   7   3  20  35  66 -31  [b]24 [/b] 2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
5th [url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667739/Lower+League+Goals+(Big+Teams)+(Tottenham%2C+Aug+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122LL[/color][/url]    15th  30   6   5  19  42  73 -31  [b]23[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
6th [/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?dsin4m1eyw3xmbm"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 442 DM[/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   4   6  20  26  66 -40  [b]18  [/b]2R  3R  1R  QF Creator
7th j[/size][url="http://www.2shared.com/file/S3V-v-cL/Ecosse.html"][size=3][color=#2b588f]imbowmanuk SW [/color][/size][/url][size=3]          15th  30   3   7  20  21  64 -43  [b]16[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
8th [/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6465swgvkud8uka"][size=3][color=#2b588f]stothy - 442[/color][/size][/url][size=3]             15th  30   4   4  22  27  79 -52  [b]16  [/b]2R  2R  2R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[font=courier new] 9th [url="http://www.mediafire.com/?y1awkli4z86g7c2"][color=#2b588f]Elnaith - 532[/color][/url]            15th  30   2   9  19  34  66 -32  [b]15  [/b]5R  3R  2R  1R Creator
10th [url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424[/color][/url]           15th  30   4   3  23  26  75 -49  [b]15[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
11th [url="http://www.mediafire.com/?c3baoqe2p619y1f"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 442[/color][/url]             15th  30   2   7  21  21  68 -47  [b]13  [/b]3R  1R  1R  1R Creator
12th [url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667704/The+Dominator+(Man+Utd%2C+Nov+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122[/color][/url]      16th  30   3   4  23  34  88 -54  [b]13[/b]  2R  1R  3R  1R [i]C[/i][i]lassic[/i]
13th [url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6soh6atakoisvpf"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 5221[/color][/url]            16th  30   2   4  24  21  70 -49  [b]10[/b]  2R  2R  1R  SF Creator
14th [url="http://www.mediafire.com/?9y4muxnrg9pc4n3"][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132b[/color][/url]            16th  30   0   5  25  12  66 -54   [b]5[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator
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I'll give this another go, this time with a classic tactic called Aeroplane. It is essentially a 3-6-1 but it looks like an aeroplane

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So onto the next tactic as posted on post #59

The second attempt from ShyBaldBuddhist using his 4132 minsk formation. Again this is a creator tactic however he'll be disappointed to learn that it only acquired 11 points, last place and relegation. Better luck next time. :D

NorthernIrishSecondDivisionOverview_Stages-15.png

The Squad. Unusually the two strikers were scoring all the goals and both ended up in double figures.

SeapatrickSquad_Players-19.png

The standings

[font=courier new][size=3][font=courier new][size=3][font=courier new][size=3][font=courier new][size=3][size=3]TACTIC                    POS  PLD WON DRW LST FOR AGA GDF [b]PTS [/b]FAC LGC INT MUL TYPE
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[/size][url="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21395126/Football%20Manager/SMSL%20Tactics/4-4-2%20Tight%20Counter.tac"][size=3][color=#2b588f]Biscotti 442TC[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   8   6  16  35  54 -19  [b]30[/b]  3R  2R  1R  1R Creator
S[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?4t60h6bh81hjrde"][size=3][color=#2b588f]hyBaldBuddhist - 4132T[/color][/size][/url][size=3]M  14th  30   7   5  18  29  53 -24  [b]26[/b]  3R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?5c9g378x7bvb169"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              16th  30   6   7  17  23  54 -31  [b]25  [/b]4R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424 classic[/color][/url]    15th  30   7   3  20  35  66 -31  [b]24 [/b] 2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667739/Lower+League+Goals+(Big+Teams)+(Tottenham%2C+Aug+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122LL[/color][/url]     15th  30   6   5  19  42  73 -31  [b]23[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?dsin4m1eyw3xmbm"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 442 DM[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   4   6  20  26  66 -40  [b]18  [/b]2R  3R  1R  QF Creator
j[/size][url="http://www.2shared.com/file/S3V-v-cL/Ecosse.html"][size=3][color=#2b588f]imbowmanuk SW [/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   3   7  20  21  64 -43  [b]16[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6465swgvkud8uka"][size=3][color=#2b588f]stothy - 442[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              15th  30   4   4  22  27  79 -52  [b]16  [/b]2R  2R  2R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[font=courier new][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?y1awkli4z86g7c2"][color=#2b588f]Elnaith - 532[/color][/url]             15th  30   2   9  19  34  66 -32  [b]15  [/b]5R  3R  2R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424[/color][/url]            15th  30   4   3  23  26  75 -49  [b]15[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?c3baoqe2p619y1f"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 442[/color][/url]              15th  30   2   7  21  21  68 -47  [b]13  [/b]3R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667704/The+Dominator+(Man+Utd%2C+Nov+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122[/color][/url]       16th  30   3   4  23  34  88 -54  [b]13[/b]  2R  1R  3R  1R [i]C[/i][i]lassic
[/i][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?b7ssriruv61mj6p"]ShyBaldBuddhist 4132Minsk[/url] 16th  30   3   2  25  20  78 -58  [b]11[/b]  5R  1R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6soh6atakoisvpf"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 5221[/color][/url]             16th  30   2   4  24  21  70 -49  [b]10[/b]  2R  2R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?9y4muxnrg9pc4n3"][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132b[/color][/url]             16th  30   0   5  25  12  66 -54   [b]5[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator[/font][/size][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font]

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From post #60 comes Fyrros' 451 counter. Not a bad tally of 21 points which is good enough for 6th place.

NorthernIrishSecondDivisionOverview_Stages-16.png

The squad

SeapatrickSquad_Players-20.png

And the current merit table...


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[/size][url="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21395126/Football%20Manager/SMSL%20Tactics/4-4-2%20Tight%20Counter.tac"][size=3][color=#2b588f]Biscotti 442TC[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   8   6  16  35  54 -19  [b]30[/b]  3R  2R  1R  1R Creator
S[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?4t60h6bh81hjrde"][size=3][color=#2b588f]hyBaldBuddhist - 4132T[/color][/size][/url][size=3]M  14th  30   7   5  18  29  53 -24  [b]26[/b]  3R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?5c9g378x7bvb169"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              16th  30   6   7  17  23  54 -31  [b]25  [/b]4R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424 classic[/color][/url]    15th  30   7   3  20  35  66 -31  [b]24 [/b] 2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667739/Lower+League+Goals+(Big+Teams)+(Tottenham%2C+Aug+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122LL[/color][/url]     15th  30   6   5  19  42  73 -31  [b]23[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.2shared.com/file/IfNlqk2J/counter.html"]fyrros - 451 counter[/url]      15th  30   5   6  19  30  65 -35  [b]21[/b]  2R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?dsin4m1eyw3xmbm"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 442 DM[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   4   6  20  26  66 -40  [b]18  [/b]2R  3R  1R  QF Creator
j[/size][url="http://www.2shared.com/file/S3V-v-cL/Ecosse.html"][size=3][color=#2b588f]imbowmanuk SW [/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   3   7  20  21  64 -43  [b]16[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6465swgvkud8uka"][size=3][color=#2b588f]stothy - 442[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              15th  30   4   4  22  27  79 -52  [b]16  [/b]2R  2R  2R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[font=courier new][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?y1awkli4z86g7c2"][color=#2b588f]Elnaith - 532[/color][/url]             15th  30   2   9  19  34  66 -32  [b]15  [/b]5R  3R  2R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424[/color][/url]            15th  30   4   3  23  26  75 -49  [b]15[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?c3baoqe2p619y1f"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 442[/color][/url]              15th  30   2   7  21  21  68 -47  [b]13  [/b]3R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667704/The+Dominator+(Man+Utd%2C+Nov+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122[/color][/url]       16th  30   3   4  23  34  88 -54  [b]13[/b]  2R  1R  3R  1R [i]C[/i][i]lassic
[/i][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?b7ssriruv61mj6p"][color=#2b588f]ShyBaldBuddhist 4132Minsk[/color][/url] 16th  30   3   2  25  20  78 -58  [b]11[/b]  5R  1R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6soh6atakoisvpf"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 5221[/color][/url]             16th  30   2   4  24  21  70 -49  [b]10[/b]  2R  2R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?9y4muxnrg9pc4n3"][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132b[/color][/url]             16th  30   0   5  25  12  66 -54   [b]5[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator[/font][/size][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font]
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Next up from post #62 is Tactic Master's 3rd attempt, his 4222 Chester tactic. So how did it fair?

Dire! Just 14 points and losing all cup games.

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The squad

SeapatrickSquad_Players-21.png

And the standings...

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[/size][url="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21395126/Football%20Manager/SMSL%20Tactics/4-4-2%20Tight%20Counter.tac"][size=3][color=#2b588f]Biscotti 442TC[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   8   6  16  35  54 -19  [b]30[/b]  3R  2R  1R  1R Creator
S[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?4t60h6bh81hjrde"][size=3][color=#2b588f]hyBaldBuddhist - 4132T[/color][/size][/url][size=3]M  14th  30   7   5  18  29  53 -24  [b]26[/b]  3R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?5c9g378x7bvb169"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              16th  30   6   7  17  23  54 -31  [b]25  [/b]4R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424 classic[/color][/url]    15th  30   7   3  20  35  66 -31  [b]24 [/b] 2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667739/Lower+League+Goals+(Big+Teams)+(Tottenham%2C+Aug+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122LL[/color][/url]     15th  30   6   5  19  42  73 -31  [b]23[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.2shared.com/file/IfNlqk2J/counter.html"][color=#2b588f]fyrros - 451 counter[/color][/url]      15th  30   5   6  19  30  65 -35  [b]21[/b]  2R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?dsin4m1eyw3xmbm"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 442 DM[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   4   6  20  26  66 -40  [b]18  [/b]2R  3R  1R  QF Creator
j[/size][url="http://www.2shared.com/file/S3V-v-cL/Ecosse.html"][size=3][color=#2b588f]imbowmanuk SW [/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   3   7  20  21  64 -43  [b]16[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6465swgvkud8uka"][size=3][color=#2b588f]stothy - 442[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              15th  30   4   4  22  27  79 -52  [b]16  [/b]2R  2R  2R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[font=courier new][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?y1awkli4z86g7c2"][color=#2b588f]Elnaith - 532[/color][/url]             15th  30   2   9  19  34  66 -32  [b]15  [/b]5R  3R  2R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424[/color][/url]            15th  30   4   3  23  26  75 -49  [b]15[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21671159/Chester+-+Work+Hard.tac"]Tactic Master 4222Chester[/url] 15th  30   3   5  22  23  70 -47  [b]14[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?c3baoqe2p619y1f"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 442[/color][/url]              15th  30   2   7  21  21  68 -47  [b]13  [/b]3R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667704/The+Dominator+(Man+Utd%2C+Nov+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122[/color][/url]       16th  30   3   4  23  34  88 -54  [b]13[/b]  2R  1R  3R  1R [i]C[/i][i]lassic
[/i][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?b7ssriruv61mj6p"][color=#2b588f]ShyBaldBuddhist 4132Minsk[/color][/url] 16th  30   3   2  25  20  78 -58  [b]11[/b]  5R  1R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6soh6atakoisvpf"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 5221[/color][/url]             16th  30   2   4  24  21  70 -49  [b]10[/b]  2R  2R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?9y4muxnrg9pc4n3"][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132b[/color][/url]             16th  30   0   5  25  12  66 -54   [b]5[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator[/font][/size][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font]
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That tactic was a disgrace :D I'll try make a new one to match my 5th placed tactic :)

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That tactic was a disgrace :D I'll try make a new one to match my 5th placed tactic :)

It is a very tough challenge. Only one tactic out of the 17 tested so far has avoided relegation! :o

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Lower League Goals (Defensive) (Creator)

This tactic is very similar to the tactic that I have in 5th place. The difference is i've totally changed the defensive side of the tactic. Hopefully we can retain the goalscoring form which has seen my tactic out-score anybody else, but defend a lot better than we did.

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Post #64 gives us Spamjabber's 4312. Sadly it also succombed to relegation, finishing 15th with 16 points. Nothing much to talk about cup wise either. Sits about midway in our league table.

NorthernIrishSecondDivisionOverview_Stages-18.png

Squad

SeapatrickSquad_Players-22.png

Standings...

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[/size][url="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21395126/Football Manager/SMSL Tactics/4-4-2 Tight Counter.tac"][size=3][color=#2b588f]Biscotti 442TC[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   8   6  16  35  54 -19  [b]30[/b]  3R  2R  1R  1R Creator
S[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?4t60h6bh81hjrde"][size=3][color=#2b588f]hyBaldBuddhist - 4132T[/color][/size][/url][size=3]M  14th  30   7   5  18  29  53 -24  [b]26[/b]  3R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?5c9g378x7bvb169"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              16th  30   6   7  17  23  54 -31  [b]25  [/b]4R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424 classic[/color][/url]    15th  30   7   3  20  35  66 -31  [b]24 [/b] 2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667739/Lower+League+Goals+(Big+Teams)+(Tottenham%2C+Aug+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122LL[/color][/url]     15th  30   6   5  19  42  73 -31  [b]23[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.2shared.com/file/IfNlqk2J/counter.html"][color=#2b588f]fyrros - 451 counter[/color][/url]      15th  30   5   6  19  30  65 -35  [b]21[/b]  2R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?dsin4m1eyw3xmbm"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 442 DM[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   4   6  20  26  66 -40  [b]18  [/b]2R  3R  1R  QF Creator
j[/size][url="http://www.2shared.com/file/S3V-v-cL/Ecosse.html"][size=3][color=#2b588f]imbowmanuk SW [/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   3   7  20  21  64 -43  [b]16[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?7wq73iehnf61a6e"]Spamjabber - 4312[/url]         15th  30   4   4  22  30  76 -46  [b]16[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6465swgvkud8uka"][size=3][color=#2b588f]stothy - 442[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              15th  30   4   4  22  27  79 -52  [b]16  [/b]2R  2R  2R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[font=courier new][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?y1awkli4z86g7c2"][color=#2b588f]Elnaith - 532[/color][/url]             15th  30   2   9  19  34  66 -32  [b]15  [/b]5R  3R  2R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424[/color][/url]            15th  30   4   3  23  26  75 -49  [b]15[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21671159/Chester+-+Work+Hard.tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 4222Chester[/color][/url] 15th  30   3   5  22  23  70 -47  [b]14[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?c3baoqe2p619y1f"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 442[/color][/url]              15th  30   2   7  21  21  68 -47  [b]13  [/b]3R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667704/The+Dominator+(Man+Utd%2C+Nov+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122[/color][/url]       16th  30   3   4  23  34  88 -54  [b]13[/b]  2R  1R  3R  1R [i]C[/i][i]lassic
[/i][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?b7ssriruv61mj6p"][color=#2b588f]ShyBaldBuddhist 4132Minsk[/color][/url] 16th  30   3   2  25  20  78 -58  [b]11[/b]  5R  1R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6soh6atakoisvpf"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 5221[/color][/url]             16th  30   2   4  24  21  70 -49  [b]10[/b]  2R  2R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?9y4muxnrg9pc4n3"][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132b[/color][/url]             16th  30   0   5  25  12  66 -54   [b]5[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator[/font][/size][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font]
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After several attempts jimbowmanuk's aeroplane tactic #66 would not download. So it was onto Braumiller's 451 classic tactic. Sadly Braumiller's 1st attempt was not a very good one. Finishing last with just 11 points and losing every cup game. :(

NorthernIrishSecondDivisionOverview_Stages-19.png

Squad

SeapatrickSquad_Players-23.png

Latest standings...

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[/size][url="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21395126/Football%20Manager/SMSL%20Tactics/4-4-2%20Tight%20Counter.tac"][size=3][color=#2b588f]Biscotti 442TC[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   8   6  16  35  54 -19  [b]30[/b]  3R  2R  1R  1R Creator
S[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?4t60h6bh81hjrde"][size=3][color=#2b588f]hyBaldBuddhist - 4132T[/color][/size][/url][size=3]M  14th  30   7   5  18  29  53 -24  [b]26[/b]  3R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?5c9g378x7bvb169"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              16th  30   6   7  17  23  54 -31  [b]25  [/b]4R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424 classic[/color][/url]    15th  30   7   3  20  35  66 -31  [b]24 [/b] 2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667739/Lower+League+Goals+(Big+Teams)+(Tottenham%2C+Aug+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122LL[/color][/url]     15th  30   6   5  19  42  73 -31  [b]23[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.2shared.com/file/IfNlqk2J/counter.html"][color=#2b588f]fyrros - 451 counter[/color][/url]      15th  30   5   6  19  30  65 -35  [b]21[/b]  2R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?dsin4m1eyw3xmbm"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 442 DM[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   4   6  20  26  66 -40  [b]18  [/b]2R  3R  1R  QF Creator
j[/size][url="http://www.2shared.com/file/S3V-v-cL/Ecosse.html"][size=3][color=#2b588f]imbowmanuk SW [/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   3   7  20  21  64 -43  [b]16[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?7wq73iehnf61a6e"][color=#2b588f]Spamjabber - 4312[/color][/url]         15th  30   4   4  22  30  76 -46  [b]16[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6465swgvkud8uka"][size=3][color=#2b588f]stothy - 442[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              15th  30   4   4  22  27  79 -52  [b]16  [/b]2R  2R  2R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[font=courier new][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?y1awkli4z86g7c2"][color=#2b588f]Elnaith - 532[/color][/url]             15th  30   2   9  19  34  66 -32  [b]15  [/b]5R  3R  2R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424[/color][/url]            15th  30   4   3  23  26  75 -49  [b]15[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21671159/Chester+-+Work+Hard.tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 4222Chester[/color][/url] 15th  30   3   5  22  23  70 -47  [b]14[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?c3baoqe2p619y1f"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 442[/color][/url]              15th  30   2   7  21  21  68 -47  [b]13  [/b]3R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667704/The+Dominator+(Man+Utd%2C+Nov+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122[/color][/url]       16th  30   3   4  23  34  88 -54  [b]13[/b]  2R  1R  3R  1R [i]C[/i][i]lassic
[/i][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?2dm4x8kt778v4j1"]Braumiller - 451[/url]          16th  30   2   5  23  25  75 -50  [b]11[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?b7ssriruv61mj6p"][color=#2b588f]ShyBaldBuddhist 4132Minsk[/color][/url] 16th  30   3   2  25  20  78 -58  [b]11[/b]  5R  1R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6soh6atakoisvpf"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 5221[/color][/url]             16th  30   2   4  24  21  70 -49  [b]10[/b]  2R  2R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?9y4muxnrg9pc4n3"][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132b[/color][/url]             16th  30   0   5  25  12  66 -54   [b]5[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator[/font][/size][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font]
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Wow, hard challenge.

Yes indeed. Its amazing how no tactic has passed 30 points so the question is...

Do tactics really matter that much in FM12???

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Wow, I was not expecting miracles but also not a season from hell :D

I am currently using that tactic in my youth challenge career game and now I am wondering how much better I could be doing there!!!

Great thread / challenge. :thup:

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Yes indeed. Its amazing how no tactic has passed 30 points so the question is...

Do tactics really matter that much in FM12???

The difference from top to bottom of 25 points would suggest they do (alright, maybe 20, my last tactic was a bit of a pish-take :D)

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From post #73 comes Tactic Master's Lower League Defensive tactic. Sadly it wasn't very good defensively. In fact it was shockingly bad with just SEVEN points and conceeding 85 goals!!!

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Squad

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And the table...

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[/size][url="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21395126/Football%20Manager/SMSL%20Tactics/4-4-2%20Tight%20Counter.tac"][size=3][color=#2b588f]Biscotti 442TC[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   8   6  16  35  54 -19  [b]30[/b]  3R  2R  1R  1R Creator
S[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?4t60h6bh81hjrde"][size=3][color=#2b588f]hyBaldBuddhist - 4132T[/color][/size][/url][size=3]M  14th  30   7   5  18  29  53 -24  [b]26[/b]  3R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?5c9g378x7bvb169"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              16th  30   6   7  17  23  54 -31  [b]25  [/b]4R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424 classic[/color][/url]    15th  30   7   3  20  35  66 -31  [b]24 [/b] 2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667739/Lower+League+Goals+(Big+Teams)+(Tottenham%2C+Aug+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122LL[/color][/url]     15th  30   6   5  19  42  73 -31  [b]23[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.2shared.com/file/IfNlqk2J/counter.html"][color=#2b588f]fyrros - 451 counter[/color][/url]      15th  30   5   6  19  30  65 -35  [b]21[/b]  2R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?dsin4m1eyw3xmbm"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 442 DM[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   4   6  20  26  66 -40  [b]18  [/b]2R  3R  1R  QF Creator
j[/size][url="http://www.2shared.com/file/S3V-v-cL/Ecosse.html"][size=3][color=#2b588f]imbowmanuk SW [/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   3   7  20  21  64 -43  [b]16[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?7wq73iehnf61a6e"][color=#2b588f]Spamjabber - 4312[/color][/url]         15th  30   4   4  22  30  76 -46  [b]16[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6465swgvkud8uka"][size=3][color=#2b588f]stothy - 442[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              15th  30   4   4  22  27  79 -52  [b]16  [/b]2R  2R  2R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[font=courier new][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?y1awkli4z86g7c2"][color=#2b588f]Elnaith - 532[/color][/url]             15th  30   2   9  19  34  66 -32  [b]15  [/b]5R  3R  2R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424[/color][/url]            15th  30   4   3  23  26  75 -49  [b]15[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21671159/Chester+-+Work+Hard.tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 4222Chester[/color][/url] 15th  30   3   5  22  23  70 -47  [b]14[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?c3baoqe2p619y1f"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 442[/color][/url]              15th  30   2   7  21  21  68 -47  [b]13  [/b]3R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667704/The+Dominator+(Man+Utd%2C+Nov+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122[/color][/url]       16th  30   3   4  23  34  88 -54  [b]13[/b]  2R  1R  3R  1R [i]C[/i][i]lassic
[/i][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?2dm4x8kt778v4j1"][color=#2b588f]Braumiller - 451[/color][/url]          16th  30   2   5  23  25  75 -50  [b]11[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?b7ssriruv61mj6p"][color=#2b588f]ShyBaldBuddhist 4132Minsk[/color][/url] 16th  30   3   2  25  20  78 -58  [b]11[/b]  5R  1R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6soh6atakoisvpf"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 5221[/color][/url]             16th  30   2   4  24  21  70 -49  [b]10[/b]  2R  2R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21680706/Lower+League+Goals+(Defensive).tac"]Tactic Master - LLG Def [/url]  16th  30   1   4  25  22  85 -63   [b]7[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?9y4muxnrg9pc4n3"][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132b[/color][/url]             16th  30   0   5  25  12  66 -54   [b]5[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator[/font][/size][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font]
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Wow my latest tactic really sucked! It just goes to prove that going defensive can cost you more!

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Wow my latest tactic really sucked! It just goes to prove that going defensive can cost you more!

To be honest I have always thought that of all previous cm/fm games. :(

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From post #74 comes 18Rabbit's 451 never fails tactic. I don't know about the rest of you but everytime I see a tactic with a name like "never fails" you just know it's going to fail BADLY! ;)

Well low and behold I was right. Another shockingly bad tactic. Lost very cup game and got just SIX points!!!

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The dire squad!

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Standings...

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[/size][url="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21395126/Football%20Manager/SMSL%20Tactics/4-4-2%20Tight%20Counter.tac"][size=3][color=#2b588f]Biscotti 442TC[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   8   6  16  35  54 -19  [b]30[/b]  3R  2R  1R  1R Creator
S[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?4t60h6bh81hjrde"][size=3][color=#2b588f]hyBaldBuddhist - 4132T[/color][/size][/url][size=3]M  14th  30   7   5  18  29  53 -24  [b]26[/b]  3R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?5c9g378x7bvb169"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              16th  30   6   7  17  23  54 -31  [b]25  [/b]4R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424 classic[/color][/url]    15th  30   7   3  20  35  66 -31  [b]24 [/b] 2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667739/Lower+League+Goals+(Big+Teams)+(Tottenham%2C+Aug+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122LL[/color][/url]     15th  30   6   5  19  42  73 -31  [b]23[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.2shared.com/file/IfNlqk2J/counter.html"][color=#2b588f]fyrros - 451 counter[/color][/url]      15th  30   5   6  19  30  65 -35  [b]21[/b]  2R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?dsin4m1eyw3xmbm"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 442 DM[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   4   6  20  26  66 -40  [b]18  [/b]2R  3R  1R  QF Creator
j[/size][url="http://www.2shared.com/file/S3V-v-cL/Ecosse.html"][size=3][color=#2b588f]imbowmanuk SW [/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   3   7  20  21  64 -43  [b]16[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?7wq73iehnf61a6e"][color=#2b588f]Spamjabber - 4312[/color][/url]         15th  30   4   4  22  30  76 -46  [b]16[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6465swgvkud8uka"][size=3][color=#2b588f]stothy - 442[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              15th  30   4   4  22  27  79 -52  [b]16  [/b]2R  2R  2R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[font=courier new][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?y1awkli4z86g7c2"][color=#2b588f]Elnaith - 532[/color][/url]             15th  30   2   9  19  34  66 -32  [b]15  [/b]5R  3R  2R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424[/color][/url]            15th  30   4   3  23  26  75 -49  [b]15[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21671159/Chester+-+Work+Hard.tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 4222Chester[/color][/url] 15th  30   3   5  22  23  70 -47  [b]14[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?c3baoqe2p619y1f"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 442[/color][/url]              15th  30   2   7  21  21  68 -47  [b]13  [/b]3R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667704/The+Dominator+(Man+Utd%2C+Nov+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122[/color][/url]       16th  30   3   4  23  34  88 -54  [b]13[/b]  2R  1R  3R  1R [i]C[/i][i]lassic
[/i][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?2dm4x8kt778v4j1"][color=#2b588f]Braumiller - 451[/color][/url]          16th  30   2   5  23  25  75 -50  [b]11[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?b7ssriruv61mj6p"][color=#2b588f]ShyBaldBuddhist 4132Minsk[/color][/url] 16th  30   3   2  25  20  78 -58  [b]11[/b]  5R  1R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6soh6atakoisvpf"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 5221[/color][/url]             16th  30   2   4  24  21  70 -49  [b]10[/b]  2R  2R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21680706/Lower+League+Goals+(Defensive).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master - LLG Def [/color][/url]  16th  30   1   4  25  22  85 -63   [b]7[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21680817/4_5_1_Never_Fails_tac"]18Rabbit - 451NF [/url]         16th  30   1   3  26  19  79 -60   [b]6[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?9y4muxnrg9pc4n3"][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132b[/color][/url]             16th  30   0   5  25  12  66 -54   [b]5[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator[/font][/size][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font]
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From post #83 comes jimbowmanuk's aeroplane tactic, one of the few classic tactics used so far. Sadly it was once again last place and relegation with just 13 points.

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Squad

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Standings

 
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[/size][url="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21395126/Football%20Manager/SMSL%20Tactics/4-4-2%20Tight%20Counter.tac"][size=3][color=#2b588f]Biscotti 442TC[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   8   6  16  35  54 -19  [b]30[/b]  3R  2R  1R  1R Creator
S[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?4t60h6bh81hjrde"][size=3][color=#2b588f]hyBaldBuddhist - 4132T[/color][/size][/url][size=3]M  14th  30   7   5  18  29  53 -24  [b]26[/b]  3R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?5c9g378x7bvb169"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              16th  30   6   7  17  23  54 -31  [b]25  [/b]4R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424 classic[/color][/url]    15th  30   7   3  20  35  66 -31  [b]24 [/b] 2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667739/Lower+League+Goals+(Big+Teams)+(Tottenham%2C+Aug+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122LL[/color][/url]     15th  30   6   5  19  42  73 -31  [b]23[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.2shared.com/file/IfNlqk2J/counter.html"][color=#2b588f]fyrros - 451 counter[/color][/url]      15th  30   5   6  19  30  65 -35  [b]21[/b]  2R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?dsin4m1eyw3xmbm"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 442 DM[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   4   6  20  26  66 -40  [b]18  [/b]2R  3R  1R  QF Creator
j[/size][url="http://www.2shared.com/file/S3V-v-cL/Ecosse.html"][size=3][color=#2b588f]imbowmanuk SW [/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   3   7  20  21  64 -43  [b]16[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?7wq73iehnf61a6e"][color=#2b588f]Spamjabber - 4312[/color][/url]         15th  30   4   4  22  30  76 -46  [b]16[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6465swgvkud8uka"][size=3][color=#2b588f]stothy - 442[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              15th  30   4   4  22  27  79 -52  [b]16  [/b]2R  2R  2R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[font=courier new][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?y1awkli4z86g7c2"][color=#2b588f]Elnaith - 532[/color][/url]             15th  30   2   9  19  34  66 -32  [b]15  [/b]5R  3R  2R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424[/color][/url]            15th  30   4   3  23  26  75 -49  [b]15[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21671159/Chester+-+Work+Hard.tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 4222Chester[/color][/url] 15th  30   3   5  22  23  70 -47  [b]14[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?c3baoqe2p619y1f"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 442[/color][/url]              15th  30   2   7  21  21  68 -47  [b]13  [/b]3R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.2shared.com/file/rX72tXGu/Aeroplane.html"]jimbowmanuk - aeroplane[/url]   16th  30   4   1  25  24  72 -48  [b]13[/b]  3R  3R  1R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667704/The+Dominator+(Man+Utd%2C+Nov+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122[/color][/url]       16th  30   3   4  23  34  88 -54  [b]13[/b]  2R  1R  3R  1R [i]C[/i][i]lassic
[/i][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?2dm4x8kt778v4j1"][color=#2b588f]Braumiller - 451[/color][/url]          16th  30   2   5  23  25  75 -50  [b]11[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?b7ssriruv61mj6p"][color=#2b588f]ShyBaldBuddhist 4132Minsk[/color][/url] 16th  30   3   2  25  20  78 -58  [b]11[/b]  5R  1R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6soh6atakoisvpf"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 5221[/color][/url]             16th  30   2   4  24  21  70 -49  [b]10[/b]  2R  2R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21680706/Lower+League+Goals+(Defensive).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master - LLG Def [/color][/url]  16th  30   1   4  25  22  85 -63   [b]7[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21680817/4_5_1_Never_Fails_tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 451NF [/color][/url]         16th  30   1   3  26  19  79 -60   [b]6[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?9y4muxnrg9pc4n3"][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132b[/color][/url]             16th  30   0   5  25  12  66 -54   [b]5[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator[/font][/size][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font]
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Here is my 4-4-2 to try. Hopefully dont finish bottom. Has done me proud so far.

Great thread by the way..

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From post #84 comes toonbalmy87's 424C tactic. It may have got him from the BSN to the PL however, perhaps he just bought quality players. 16th with just 10 points was managed although they did make the 4th Round of the intermediate cup.

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Squad

SeapatrickSquad_Players-27.png

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[/size][url="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21395126/Football%20Manager/SMSL%20Tactics/4-4-2%20Tight%20Counter.tac"][size=3][color=#2b588f]Biscotti 442TC[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   8   6  16  35  54 -19  [b]30[/b]  3R  2R  1R  1R Creator
S[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?4t60h6bh81hjrde"][size=3][color=#2b588f]hyBaldBuddhist - 4132T[/color][/size][/url][size=3]M  14th  30   7   5  18  29  53 -24  [b]26[/b]  3R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?5c9g378x7bvb169"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              16th  30   6   7  17  23  54 -31  [b]25  [/b]4R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424 classic[/color][/url]    15th  30   7   3  20  35  66 -31  [b]24 [/b] 2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667739/Lower+League+Goals+(Big+Teams)+(Tottenham%2C+Aug+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122LL[/color][/url]     15th  30   6   5  19  42  73 -31  [b]23[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.2shared.com/file/IfNlqk2J/counter.html"][color=#2b588f]fyrros - 451 counter[/color][/url]      15th  30   5   6  19  30  65 -35  [b]21[/b]  2R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?dsin4m1eyw3xmbm"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 442 DM[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   4   6  20  26  66 -40  [b]18  [/b]2R  3R  1R  QF Creator
j[/size][url="http://www.2shared.com/file/S3V-v-cL/Ecosse.html"][size=3][color=#2b588f]imbowmanuk SW [/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   3   7  20  21  64 -43  [b]16[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?7wq73iehnf61a6e"][color=#2b588f]Spamjabber - 4312[/color][/url]         15th  30   4   4  22  30  76 -46  [b]16[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6465swgvkud8uka"][size=3][color=#2b588f]stothy - 442[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              15th  30   4   4  22  27  79 -52  [b]16  [/b]2R  2R  2R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[font=courier new][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?y1awkli4z86g7c2"][color=#2b588f]Elnaith - 532[/color][/url]             15th  30   2   9  19  34  66 -32  [b]15  [/b]5R  3R  2R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424[/color][/url]            15th  30   4   3  23  26  75 -49  [b]15[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21671159/Chester+-+Work+Hard.tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 4222Chester[/color][/url] 15th  30   3   5  22  23  70 -47  [b]14[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?c3baoqe2p619y1f"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 442[/color][/url]              15th  30   2   7  21  21  68 -47  [b]13  [/b]3R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.2shared.com/file/rX72tXGu/Aeroplane.html"][color=#2b588f]jimbowmanuk - aeroplane[/color][/url]   16th  30   4   1  25  24  72 -48  [b]13[/b]  3R  3R  1R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667704/The+Dominator+(Man+Utd%2C+Nov+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122[/color][/url]       16th  30   3   4  23  34  88 -54  [b]13[/b]  2R  1R  3R  1R [i]C[/i][i]lassic
[/i][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?2dm4x8kt778v4j1"][color=#2b588f]Braumiller - 451[/color][/url]          16th  30   2   5  23  25  75 -50  [b]11[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?b7ssriruv61mj6p"][color=#2b588f]ShyBaldBuddhist 4132Minsk[/color][/url] 16th  30   3   2  25  20  78 -58  [b]11[/b]  5R  1R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6soh6atakoisvpf"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 5221[/color][/url]             16th  30   2   4  24  21  70 -49  [b]10[/b]  2R  2R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21683929/4-2-4C.tac"]toonbalmy - 424C [/url]         16th  30   2   4  24  22  83 -61  [b]10[/b]  2R  1R  4R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21680706/Lower+League+Goals+(Defensive).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master - LLG Def [/color][/url]  16th  30   1   4  25  22  85 -63   [b]7[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21680817/4_5_1_Never_Fails_tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 451NF [/color][/url]         16th  30   1   3  26  19  79 -60   [b]6[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?9y4muxnrg9pc4n3"][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132b[/color][/url]             16th  30   0   5  25  12  66 -54   [b]5[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator[/font][/size][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font]
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From post #84 comes toonbalmy87's 424C tactic. It may have got him from the BSN to the PL however' date=' [b']perhaps he just bought quality players[/b]. 16th with just 10 points was managed although they did make the 4th Round of the intermediate cup.

I would edit the bit in bold out, he's doing my youth challenge :D

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From post #84 comes toonbalmy87's 424C tactic. It may have got him from the BSN to the PL however' date=' perhaps he just bought quality players. 16th with just 10 points was managed although they did make the 4th Round of the intermediate cup.

[img']http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/tedski_69/FM%202012%20Seapatrick/NorthernIrishSecondDivisionOverview_Stages-23.png[/img]

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SeapatrickSquad_Players-27.png

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[/size][url="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21395126/Football%20Manager/SMSL%20Tactics/4-4-2%20Tight%20Counter.tac"][size=3][color=#2b588f]Biscotti 442TC[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   8   6  16  35  54 -19  [b]30[/b]  3R  2R  1R  1R Creator
S[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?4t60h6bh81hjrde"][size=3][color=#2b588f]hyBaldBuddhist - 4132T[/color][/size][/url][size=3]M  14th  30   7   5  18  29  53 -24  [b]26[/b]  3R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?5c9g378x7bvb169"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              16th  30   6   7  17  23  54 -31  [b]25  [/b]4R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424 classic[/color][/url]    15th  30   7   3  20  35  66 -31  [b]24 [/b] 2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667739/Lower+League+Goals+(Big+Teams)+(Tottenham%2C+Aug+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122LL[/color][/url]     15th  30   6   5  19  42  73 -31  [b]23[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.2shared.com/file/IfNlqk2J/counter.html"][color=#2b588f]fyrros - 451 counter[/color][/url]      15th  30   5   6  19  30  65 -35  [b]21[/b]  2R  2R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?dsin4m1eyw3xmbm"][size=3][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 442 DM[/color][/size][/url][size=3]            15th  30   4   6  20  26  66 -40  [b]18  [/b]2R  3R  1R  QF Creator
j[/size][url="http://www.2shared.com/file/S3V-v-cL/Ecosse.html"][size=3][color=#2b588f]imbowmanuk SW [/color][/size][/url][size=3]           15th  30   3   7  20  21  64 -43  [b]16[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?7wq73iehnf61a6e"][color=#2b588f]Spamjabber - 4312[/color][/url]         15th  30   4   4  22  30  76 -46  [b]16[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator
[/size][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6465swgvkud8uka"][size=3][color=#2b588f]stothy - 442[/color][/size][/url][size=3]              15th  30   4   4  22  27  79 -52  [b]16  [/b]2R  2R  2R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[font=courier new][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?y1awkli4z86g7c2"][color=#2b588f]Elnaith - 532[/color][/url]             15th  30   2   9  19  34  66 -32  [b]15  [/b]5R  3R  2R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667340/4-2-4+Sucky+Classic.tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 424[/color][/url]            15th  30   4   3  23  26  75 -49  [b]15[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21671159/Chester+-+Work+Hard.tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 4222Chester[/color][/url] 15th  30   3   5  22  23  70 -47  [b]14[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?c3baoqe2p619y1f"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 442[/color][/url]              15th  30   2   7  21  21  68 -47  [b]13  [/b]3R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.2shared.com/file/rX72tXGu/Aeroplane.html"][color=#2b588f]jimbowmanuk - aeroplane[/color][/url]   16th  30   4   1  25  24  72 -48  [b]13[/b]  3R  3R  1R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21667704/The+Dominator+(Man+Utd%2C+Nov+2011).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master 41122[/color][/url]       16th  30   3   4  23  34  88 -54  [b]13[/b]  2R  1R  3R  1R [i]C[/i][i]lassic
[/i][url="http://www.mediafire.com/?2dm4x8kt778v4j1"][color=#2b588f]Braumiller - 451[/color][/url]          16th  30   2   5  23  25  75 -50  [b]11[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?b7ssriruv61mj6p"][color=#2b588f]ShyBaldBuddhist 4132Minsk[/color][/url] 16th  30   3   2  25  20  78 -58  [b]11[/b]  5R  1R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?6soh6atakoisvpf"][color=#2b588f]MadDog - 5221[/color][/url]             16th  30   2   4  24  21  70 -49  [b]10[/b]  2R  2R  1R  SF Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21683929/4-2-4C.tac"]toonbalmy - 424C [/url]         16th  30   2   4  24  22  83 -61  [b]10[/b]  2R  1R  4R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21680706/Lower+League+Goals+(Defensive).tac"][color=#2b588f]Tactic Master - LLG Def [/color][/url]  16th  30   1   4  25  22  85 -63   [b]7[/b]  2R  1R  1R  1R Creator
[url="http://www.gamefront.com/files/21680817/4_5_1_Never_Fails_tac"][color=#2b588f]18Rabbit - 451NF [/color][/url]         16th  30   1   3  26  19  79 -60   [b]6[/b]  2R  2R  1R  1R [i]Classic[/i]
[url="http://www.mediafire.com/?9y4muxnrg9pc4n3"][color=#2b588f]ri916 - 4132b[/color][/url]             16th  30   0   5  25  12  66 -54   [b]5[/b]  2R  1R  1R  QF Creator[/font][/size][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font][/size][/font]
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I haven't bought any players and i am in 2037 basically tactics only make a difference when you have players set up to play in certain formation

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This is a very interesting challenge - here is quite an attacking 4-2-2-2 tactic (classic, not creator) which I have used with quite a bit of success, although it does tend to also leak quite a few goals - would be interested to see how it goes:

4-2-2-2 Attacking: http://www.mediafire.com/?ll67ey4l82zm4ib

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The difference is now completely changed defensive side. I hope we can keep the goal scoring form in which the result of the tactics beyond anyone else, but to defend much better than we do.

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