SI Staff Simon Tipple Posted November 23, 2020 SI Staff Share Posted November 23, 2020 Please post any data issues related to England's EFL League Two here. As much of the data is subjective we’d ask that you respect everyone’s opinion and accept that the final decision is that of our club researchers and our heads of research. We also request you please adhere to the following three point plan when posting in the data topics: · State what you think is specifically wrong with a particular piece of data. · State what you think the data should be. · State reasons/proof for your suggested corrections/improvements. Please note that any non-data issues for England's EFL League Two should be posted in the appropriate thread within the League Specific Issues forum. This would include issues such as league scheduling, league table sorting rules and match rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerDon Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 The stadium of Bolton Wanderers is still Marcon Stadium ingame but changed the name about a year ago to University of Bolton Stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Dean Gripton Posted December 1, 2020 SI Staff Share Posted December 1, 2020 10 hours ago, DerDon said: The stadium of Bolton Wanderers is still Marcon Stadium ingame but changed the name about a year ago to University of Bolton Stadium. The Bolton stadium is set as University of Bolton Stadium in the database and therefore in the game. You must be using some out-of-date third-party database that is wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbowman6 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Enda Barron has been working at Mansfield since February. https://www.linkedin.com/in/enda-barron-35910814 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Dean Gripton Posted December 7, 2020 SI Staff Share Posted December 7, 2020 14 hours ago, lbowman6 said: Enda Barron has been working at Mansfield since February. https://www.linkedin.com/in/enda-barron-35910814 He left when Coughlan was sacked in October. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbowman6 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Tom Allman (General Manager) is not in the game. https://www.crawleytownfc.com/news/2020/december/wright-back-where-he-started/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Dean Gripton Posted December 16, 2020 SI Staff Share Posted December 16, 2020 On 14/12/2020 at 20:32, lbowman6 said: Tom Allman (General Manager) is not in the game. https://www.crawleytownfc.com/news/2020/december/wright-back-where-he-started/ The position of "General Manager" isn't a job we include in FM. If Allman does any of the responsibilities that are available for backroom staff to perform in FM, please comment accordingly and we'll have to work out how to get him in. However, I suspect he doesn't do any of the responsibiltiies we have in the game. Otherwise, adding Allman to the database for a job we do not replicate in the game is just clogging up the game still further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattalele Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Hi, Harry Parsons has the wrong ethnicity in the match engine. He appears as black but should be white. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigs Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Diego Miller 2000048979, for Cambridge United U18s, has a couple of issues. Obviously not assuming you guys get a random 18 year old in a league two academy spot on so as one of his classmates from secondary school I can say he is actually more in the 6'1 - 6'3 range than 5'7. He also weighs a bit more than the database suggests but I couldn't give an exact number. He's lightskin black with short black hair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbowman6 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Daniel Hutchings has moved from Barnet to Stevenage staff. https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-hutchings-777682a5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 A fair new issues with Bolton currently... EG. Tobias Phoenix has left the club .... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55281139 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaDevil2 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Welshace said: A fair new issues with Bolton currently... EG. Tobias Phoenix has left the club .... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55281139 We are in the review stage now, so I'm sure a this will be picked up. There has certainly been a lot going on at Bolton! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clintabn Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Crawley manager John Yems (5100896) needs his history fleshed out a bit more In 1992-94 he was Horsham player/managerhttps://www.horshamfc.co.uk/players/john-yems/https://www.horshamfc.co.uk/2020/07/17/i-was-an-egotist-who-thought-i-was-going-to-win-the-european-cup/ In 1998 he was a coach at Dulwich Hamlet, leading the team in some friendlieshttps://www.horshamfc.co.uk/matches/1998-99/3765/dulwich-hamlet/ In 2003 he was a u18 coach at Millwall He was previously a youth coach at Crystal Palace, but not sure when. I think it was around the same time as his roles at Fulham & Millwall. In 2006, while being a coach, for a time he was caretaker manager at Crawley In 2012 he was coaching at Gillinghamhttps://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/nicky-southall-praises-contribut-a68019/ In 2019 before rejoining Crawley, he was a scout for Newcastlehttps://www.crawleytownfc.com/news/2019/december/05.12-john-yems-appointment/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Dean Gripton Posted January 28, 2021 SI Staff Share Posted January 28, 2021 Thanks for the info guys, I'll ensure all of those issues are looked at for the official winter update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightsaj_yt Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 There is a record for Port Vale that is wrong. It said the top scorer in league goals in 1 season was Wilf Kirkham with 38 in 1927/28 where as it was actually year 1926/27. I understand how and why you got it wrong as it is only a small fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ford 1877 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Any reason why Paul Ince isn't in Football Manager this year. Regularly talks about getting back into football and is still linked to manager jobs the most recent being Tranmere and Port Vale. https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/26936490 https://www.thesackrace.com/news/20th-november-2020/betting-suspended-on-paul-ince-becoming-the-new-tranmere-rovers-manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clintabn Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Romain Vincelot (8430850) is missing his loan at Gillingham from 26th October 2012 - 3rd January 2013. 9 league apps & 1 goal.https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=53256&season_id=142 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Dean Gripton Posted February 10, 2021 SI Staff Share Posted February 10, 2021 On 31/01/2021 at 16:43, Mr Ford 1877 said: Any reason why Paul Ince isn't in Football Manager this year. Regularly talks about getting back into football and is still linked to manager jobs the most recent being Tranmere and Port Vale. https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/26936490 https://www.thesackrace.com/news/20th-november-2020/betting-suspended-on-paul-ince-becoming-the-new-tranmere-rovers-manager He is in it. Or, put it this way, he's not not in it. He is not a very good football manager, which may be why he's not getting much action in your save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Dean Gripton Posted February 10, 2021 SI Staff Share Posted February 10, 2021 On 21/01/2021 at 05:02, Clintabn said: Crawley manager John Yems (5100896) needs his history fleshed out a bit more In 1992-94 he was Horsham player/managerhttps://www.horshamfc.co.uk/players/john-yems/https://www.horshamfc.co.uk/2020/07/17/i-was-an-egotist-who-thought-i-was-going-to-win-the-european-cup/ In 1998 he was a coach at Dulwich Hamlet, leading the team in some friendlieshttps://www.horshamfc.co.uk/matches/1998-99/3765/dulwich-hamlet/ In 2003 he was a u18 coach at Millwall He was previously a youth coach at Crystal Palace, but not sure when. I think it was around the same time as his roles at Fulham & Millwall. In 2006, while being a coach, for a time he was caretaker manager at Crawley In 2012 he was coaching at Gillinghamhttps://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/nicky-southall-praises-contribut-a68019/ In 2019 before rejoining Crawley, he was a scout for Newcastlehttps://www.crawleytownfc.com/news/2019/december/05.12-john-yems-appointment/ Can't include all of these as the database requires start and end dates for non-player histories. Thanks for the info through, I'll include as many of those as I can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ford 1877 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 23 hours ago, Dean Gripton said: He is in it. Or, put it this way, he's not not in it. He is not a very good football manager, which may be why he's not getting much action in your save. Paul Ince made a decent start at management particularly at MK Dons where he won the Football League Trophy, and promotion from League 2. Blackpool also had there best start to the season in 50 years when he took over despite having a very small squad, its tough to work with limited finances. He is wrongly classed as retired according to the database League Managers Association - PAUL INCE Paul Ince - Managers - Manager Stats Paul Ince: Blackpool boss sacked after less than a year in charge - BBC Sport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentford Alan Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 On 11/02/2021 at 16:00, Mr Ford 1877 said: He is wrongly classed as retired according to the database He isn't marked as retired in the database. He hasn't had a job in football for over 6 years (according to his database history at least, and that job lasted 11 months after a 2 year lay off) which I imagine makes him a low priority for the game to activate when you start a save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ford 1877 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, Brentford Alan said: He isn't marked as retired in the database. He hasn't had a job in football for over 6 years (according to his database history at least, and that job lasted 11 months after a 2 year lay off) which I imagine makes him a low priority for the game to activate when you start a save. Maybe it's been changed for the update then because he's retired in current football manager 21 database editor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentonizking Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 On 12/02/2021 at 16:19, Brentford Alan said: He isn't marked as retired in the database. He hasn't had a job in football for over 6 years (according to his database history at least, and that job lasted 11 months after a 2 year lay off) which I imagine makes him a low priority for the game to activate when you start a save. What would increase the likelihood? Bigger database size when you set up the game?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentford Alan Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 hour ago, kentonizking said: What would increase the likelihood? Bigger database size when you set up the game?. I really wouldnt know, I tried a test new game with all English leagues loaded down to National Leagues N & S with a large database and he didnt show up in game. What is interesting is the unique id alongside Paul Ince in Mr Ford's screenshot is not the one assigned to Paul Ince in the database (Tom Ince is correct, didnt check any others). THE Paul Ince is 2004544, there is no one assigned the number 2000066779 at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ford 1877 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 38 minutes ago, Brentford Alan said: I really wouldnt know, I tried a test new game with all English leagues loaded down to National Leagues N & S with a large database and he didnt show up in game. What is interesting is the unique id alongside Paul Ince in Mr Ford's screenshot is not the one assigned to Paul Ince in the database (Tom Ince is correct, didnt check any others). THE Paul Ince is 2004544, there is no one assigned the number 2000066779 at all. It's strange because i'm using the official database and havent made any changes is it a bug? Paul Ince also isn't in Tom Inces favourite personel either at all which is strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentonizking Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 11 hours ago, Mr Ford 1877 said: It's strange because i'm using the official database and havent made any changes is it a bug? Paul Ince also isn't in Tom Inces favourite personel either at all which is strange. Dadda's and Kiddies fall out man! Seriously though, some gremlins in the Matrix, here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Reardon Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Hello. For the updated database, is there a way for directors to be added at Tranmere Rovers? Below is a staff list including directors at the club - https://www.tranmererovers.co.uk/club/tranmere-rovers-staff-directory/ Thanks, Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Reardon Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Please find attached below the Tranmere staff list with directors with the link. If you could include it in the update it would be appreciated. https://www.tranmererovers.co.uk/club/tranmere-rovers-staff-directory/ Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Dean Gripton Posted February 19, 2021 SI Staff Share Posted February 19, 2021 We have Palios x2, Wanandi and Tolcher in the game already. If you could explain what the point of adding those seven people would be, apart from the clog up the Staff screen, I'd be happy to read it. Directors do absolutely nothing at all in the game apart from add to the size of the database. The size of the database is one of the biggest contributors to the speed of the game. OK, so it's only seven people, but what is the point of adding them, apart from looking. We know nothing about them apart from a name on that webpage, so can't even use their names for newgen naming purposes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Dean Gripton Posted February 22, 2021 SI Staff Share Posted February 22, 2021 Note that the data lock for this 21.3.0 Winter Update was Monday 15th at 3pm. Therefore, Clarke's managerial move to Port Vale was after the data lock. Clarke's move will appear in the expected second Winter Update, which caters for the late closing of the Russian and Chinese transfer windows (amongst others). Those windows close on 28th Feb, and that update will appear as soon as we can after that date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Does this count as a data issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Dean Gripton Posted February 23, 2021 SI Staff Share Posted February 23, 2021 OMG! Yes it does. Furman's Current Reputation was 103 in the release version of the game. We changed it to 95 to reflect his dropping reputation, but I made a typing error and it was recorded as 195 instead of 95! Hence his sky-high value, which takes CR as a factor in its calculation. This has now been rectified for the final data update, thanks for spotting it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Reardon Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Hello, Ali Crawford's loan deal at Tranmere from Bolton until the end of the season has been missed in the first winter update, it was a deadline day move. Link to web article - https://www.tranmererovers.co.uk/news/2021/february/ali-crawford-signs-on-loan-until-the-end-of-the-season/ Cheers, Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timma Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 There appears to be a typo in Lewis Butroid (Scunthorpe) DOB, according to Scunthorpe it should be 17/09/1998 instead of 16/09: https://www.scunthorpe-united.co.uk/teams/first-team2/defender/lewis-butroid/ Also missing a loan with Spennymoor from 19/20 where he made four league appearances (no goals) between 10/01/2020 and 08/02/2020: https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/scunthorpe-united-left-back-lewis-3726357 https://spennymoortownfc.co.uk/2020/02/08/butroid-recalled-by-scunthorpe/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Reardon Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Have we any idea when the second winter update will be released? Are SI waiting for the Wigan takeover? Cheers, Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Dean Gripton Posted March 11, 2021 SI Staff Share Posted March 11, 2021 The database for the final update was Monday 1st March. Anything that happened after that date is too late for inclusion in the update, which is due "when it is ready". We do not wait for any speculative event to happen to launch any update. That simply isn't how it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliotdanks Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 On 11/03/2021 at 17:05, Dean Gripton said: The database for the final update was Monday 1st March. Anything that happened after that date is too late for inclusion in the update, which is due "when it is ready". We do not wait for any speculative event to happen to launch any update. That simply isn't how it works. Does it usually take up to 2 weeks after the cut off to get the update out? This one seems like a longer delay than normal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicious Penguin Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 On 12/03/2021 at 20:14, elliotdanks said: Does it usually take up to 2 weeks after the cut off to get the update out? This one seems like a longer delay than normal! I'd imagine SI are also trying to fix some bugs to include with the update- on the known issues thread there's a few that need to be fixed (one in particular for me!!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesTheSuperBlue Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Bill Garner is no longer a youth team coach at Southend. I popped him into the game when I was the Southend Researcher way back in 2009 but he left the club a good 8 years ago now. I did let the Southend Researcher know on another forum a year or 2 ago but he's still in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Joe Ledley's "Date Left" in his Non Playing History for Newcastle Jets is set to "2019" which is before his join date. He left at the end of the Australian 2020 season (31/12/2020?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_gtfc Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 I've just started my yearly Grimsby save and noticed a few issues (being a fan of them...) Ben Davies is down as U23 manager. Initially when he joined that was going to be his role, but it's now more of a first team coach, and then his secondary job is U23 manager. He's still down as a player, but rated at 3*. I suggest this should be lowered as he's now 39 and won't be as good as he was a few years ago. Ollie Battersby's loan at Mickleover Sports and Lincoln United are missing. https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/2020/january/harry-cardwell-and-ollie-battersby-seal-short-term-loans/ https://www.gateshead-fc.com/news/ollie-battersby-joins-on-loan-2592491.html Callum Lester is down as being the Assistant Manager despite never doing that role. Chris Doig is the current assistant manager, and Callum Lester is the U18 assistant manager. Dominic Antoine's position is down as wrong: https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/teams/youth-team/defender/dominic-antoine/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Dean Gripton Posted April 14, 2021 SI Staff Share Posted April 14, 2021 He is set as Player/Manager (u23 team) and has a secondary job as coach (first team) which seems to cover all the areas you mentioned. However, that secondary job does not appear to be in game - that must be a bug as it is set in the data. There must be a bug relating to a secondary job for someone with a player/non-player first job. It's been logged, though that will (of course) be for next year. He was also rated (by Current Ability) as Grimsby's 22nd-best player, so it's not as if he is rated as essential and someone that must be selected. That all said, it is probably 5 CA points too high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_gtfc Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 On 14/04/2021 at 11:29, Dean Gripton said: He is set as Player/Manager (u23 team) and has a secondary job as coach (first team) which seems to cover all the areas you mentioned. However, that secondary job does not appear to be in game - that must be a bug as it is set in the data. There must be a bug relating to a secondary job for someone with a player/non-player first job. It's been logged, though that will (of course) be for next year. He was also rated (by Current Ability) as Grimsby's 22nd-best player, so it's not as if he is rated as essential and someone that must be selected. That all said, it is probably 5 CA points too high. Thanks Dean, I thought that it didn't seem right. Agree with Ben Davies should be lowered a bit more as I suspect that hasn't changed in the last few seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tv_capper Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Although no longer with the club, Josh Gray (2000056266) is missing his player history including two years spent at Cambridge United "Josh started out as a full-time apprentice at Cambridge United Football Club. He spent two years with the league 2 side and has also played in academies at Tottenham Hotspur, West Ham, Ipswich Town and Stevenage." https://www.ukfootballcamps.co.uk/meet-the-team.php He also joined Brentwood Town on 12/09/2020 https://twitter.com/BrentwoodTownFC/status/1304878088526983168 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tv_capper Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) Cambridge United Louis Hrebeniak (220126) Has been appointed as U18 Goalkeeping Coach https://twitter.com/LouisHrebeniak/status/1433377408258908160 Edited September 27, 2021 by tv_capper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Dean Gripton Posted October 2, 2021 SI Staff Share Posted October 2, 2021 On 27/09/2021 at 04:05, tv_capper said: Cambridge United Louis Hrebeniak (220126) Has been appointed as U18 Goalkeeping Coach https://twitter.com/LouisHrebeniak/status/1433377408258908160 That looks like U16 GK coach to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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