libertine Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 That the patch is delayed is one thing. After the last couple releases it never came as a shock.. which should ring a bell with you guys btw.What's worse is the sum of all the **** that's going on... After deciding not to wait for the patch but just start a game, I first tried to move Harry Redknapp to the Spurs job. Only problem is, the editor won't start. Double-click it, it "jumps out" like any other file when opened...but then, nothing. Tried again, tried restarting..nothing. OK, so I say **** it, not the end of the world. Let's just get the game under way. I start a game, play for about an hour. Then out of f*cking nowhere: "Array access out of bounds" - game shuts down. Half an hour + of work lost. I mean come on..WHAT IS THIS, AMATEUR HOUR?!?? What the f*ck kind of product are you guys releasing?? One ****up is one thing, but this is worse than George W Bush high on mushrooms trying to do advanced maths. Give me a ****ing break.. and a ****ing patch to fix this ****. </rant> -giventofly. Mate, I too had this problem it is easily fixed-basically the game stays running in the background, now as im not an expert on Macs I don't know the correct way to bring it back, but if you click the apple logo and then restart it brings the game back to the 'front' in windowed mode! Hope that helps Also SI I very much doubt you have even been working on the patch at all, and we just want a level of honesty which you used to have but have lost in recent years. The fact that SEGA have made most of todays announcements pretty much sums things up. Otherwise the game is almost perfect, once the right click gets fixed then it will be, its a shame the patch isn't out but the game is still playable without it folks. I have a below spec graphics card (gma 31000)and 3d works (i don't use it though) if and when the patch comes out just run it with your saved game, there are only a few data updates! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Staying Up Posted November 14, 2008 Author Share Posted November 14, 2008 OK... I'm guessing this probably won't be read but I can only hope it does... I started this thread this morning just so that we could clarify whether the patch was today or next week due to conflicting threads. We got a pretty quick response which was massively appreciated and allowed all of us to get excited for being able to play the game today. We've then proceeded to waste hours checking and checking and checking for the updates. Now it seems to me that when things are going well SI were quick to provide answers and communication - then when things go wrong they fall silent... I don't care that things go wrong... of course they do... I don't care if it's going to take a month to fix it... I just want SI to communicate and to keep the information flow going. Please at least give us the one piece of info we all need... Could it be over the weekend that the patch becomes available or will it be next week? PLEASE POST A REPLY SI. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgins Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Sorry guys, unfortunately we have come across some problems with the Mac version on certain graphics cards, which means we will be unable to release the 910 patch tonight. We'll keep working on these issues and get the patch out as soon as we can. I don't want to give you an ETA as I cannot guarantee it will be met at this stage. Apologies once again from all at SI for not getting the patch out to you today. You are ridiculous! If you think that treating your customers like idiot won't damage your reputation, you're really wrong. I'm quite tired of you and your bugged game, instead of deploying that childish 3d you could have tried, for a year, just for a year, to release a finished game, or at least a playable one. I think that the market will punish you in severe way, no more space for your amateurish way of sorting out game. You lost a customer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybz Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 OK... I'm guessing this probably won't be read but I can only hope it does...Please at least give us the one piece of info we all need... Could it be over the weekend that the patch becomes available or will it be next week? PLEASE POST A REPLY SI. Thanks. here here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamy100 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 For years and years I have defended SI over numerous issues, but after the events of today with the DRM problems for PC users and MAC users not being able to play the game due to the lack of a patch, have to say that this is a completely unacceptable situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Nothing sort of an absolute ****ing joke SI. We need a patch to play this game, it should be out the day we hand our cash to you. Trading standards is a very good call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Hi, I'm a PC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidstrom Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 This is totally unacceptable.....I'm so disapointed, i've been wating for this game since late summer and this day was marked into my calander as a day to do nothing else then play Football Manager... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandre Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Despite all those problems, I'm still thankful that SI release a Mac version with the Windows version. I remember back on CM times when Mac users had to wait for a couple of months to play the latest CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucket Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Im not finding any problems with the game and im on a mac. I will patch when it comes out but happy with how the game is going/playing at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I saw on the patch thread that its likely to be Monday. Link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flooejen Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Obviously everything is really rather mental busy with the activation issues the PC users are getting but rest assured that we're still working hard for the mac patch and as soon as we know anything you'll know as well I saw on the patch thread that its likely to be Monday. Link What a crock of **** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giventofly Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Mate, I too had this problem it is easily fixed-basically the game stays running in the background, now as im not an expert on Macs I don't know the correct way to bring it back, but if you click the apple logo and then restart it brings the game back to the 'front' in windowed mode! Hope that helpsAlso SI I very much doubt you have even been working on the patch at all, and we just want a level of honesty which you used to have but have lost in recent years. The fact that SEGA have made most of todays announcements pretty much sums things up. Otherwise the game is almost perfect, once the right click gets fixed then it will be, its a shame the patch isn't out but the game is still playable without it folks. I have a below spec graphics card (gma 31000)and 3d works (i don't use it though) if and when the patch comes out just run it with your saved game, there are only a few data updates! Thanks mate, that did the trick! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I saw on the patch thread that its likely to be Monday. Link Hope they have a nice weekend off, spending the money we have all spent on the game. Complete and utter b*ll*cks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metcow Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Where I work, if we have a customer impacting issue we work at the weekend to sort it out. Now, I appreciate the fact that they've all worked hard recently to get this game out, but surely it would be the right thing to do to get the relevant people in to QA the Mac patch and get it out for the customers. I am able to play (albeight with a stupid amount of flippin' injuries) but there are clearly so many people left with a useless game for the entire weekend and that simply can't be right. SI, I think at the very least there are many people that need to be told why they'll have to wait another few days before they are able to play the game they have paid you to get. COME ON, DO THE RIGHT THING HERE! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambolt Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Come on, guys. The Mac version of the game is completely playable apart from the ctrl-click bug, which can be solved either by using an external mouse or the two-finger method that you can set up in System Preferences on a MacBook. Not perfect, but it'll last us through the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 ****ing idiots, when are they ever gonna release a game that is playable without thousands of bugs... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObaMartins09 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 If that's true then it's an utter disgrace. A lot of people, including me, have to work during the weekdays and don't get time to play the game then. So, I hoped it would be out tonight or tomorrow so I could play it when I have the chance (weekend). I'm disappointed, very disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObaMartins09 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Come on, guys. The Mac version of the game is completely playable apart from the ctrl-click bug, which can be solved either by using an external mouse or the two-finger method that you can set up in System Preferences on a MacBook. Not perfect, but it'll last us through the weekend. It's virtually unplayable because of the bugs. Injuries, match engine. Not an enjoyable experience at all. Looks like us mac users are the only ones left that are missing out now that the authentication issues have been fixed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wba_dan Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 This makes me a sad Panda. I just can't stop ctrl-clicking, every time I do I have to restart the game! I'm going to give up until Monday... I echo the desire for the game to be released in a working state, patches should be reserved for fancy extras and data updates not something as crucial as being able to right click! Really disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will S Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 OK...stupid question please nobody take their SI frustrations out on me....but if i start a game will i be able to play the same game with the patch (if its ever released)? Or will the patch only function with a game that i play after installing the patch..im assuming not but i agree with ambolt that the only issue ive come across is the ctrl+click bug which isnt a big deal for me but i fear there maybe more bugs im unaware of and only discover them a couple of seasons in or something...which would be a pain in the arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty2k Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 i can;t even get the game to run in parallels, error on starting about setting up the graphics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 OK...stupid question please nobody take their SI frustrations out on me....but if i start a game will i be able to play the same game with the patch (if its ever released)? Or will the patch only function with a game that i play after installing the patch..im assuming not but i agree with ambolt that the only issue ive come across is the ctrl+click bug which isnt a big deal for me but i fear there maybe more bugs im unaware of and only discover them a couple of seasons in or something...which would be a pain in the arse. Normally patches are save game compatible, bugs such as the right click will be fixed and your previous save game will be playable. However when the patch is applied changes such as Redknapp to Spurs will not show up in your save only in a new game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will S Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 It will only work if you start a new game.. Thats what i thought. Cheers Hands up if you think SI should offer a partial refund for people who bought a highly error prone game on release date ? Say £5-£10 money back? That would go some way to heal the damaged confidence of lets face it, extremely loyal and supportive customers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnusbard Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 **** ****ING **** **** ********!!! Allright, the right click issue is not that big for me! but ffs ffs ffs ffs...! WHY do I get 8 injuries in 4 games, this is just unplayable like this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel_lfc Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Sort it out si Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Come on, guys. The Mac version of the game is completely playable apart from the ctrl-click bug, which can be solved either by using an external mouse or the two-finger method that you can set up in System Preferences on a MacBook. Not perfect, but it'll last us through the weekend. Its not playable at all. Right click is a joke. Hundreds of bugs, injury after injury, and then it just crashes on the first game. Not worth the £30 I'd say, would you? It's virtually unplayable because of the bugs. Injuries, match engine. Not an enjoyable experience at all.Looks like us mac users are the only ones left that are missing out now that the authentication issues have been fixed. Agreed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Mine is playable just, the injuries happen pretty randomly for me but not in every game. Did the right click affect you in FM08? Sometimes for me it did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Charles Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 What a f*cking joke. Have a great weekend, you useless c*nts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadfish Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 iom this is pure horse sh*tt, i bet they didnt even try the game on a mac befour the release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
extrasafejohnny Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 is the right click thing gonna b fixed in the patch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeles Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 this is unreal! wat a waste of money!!!!!!!! at least the punks could have given us a ETA! lazy mugs should say in the office until its complete! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel_lfc Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Sorry guys, unfortunately we have come across some problems with the Mac version on certain graphics cards, which means we will be unable to release the 910 patch tonight. We'll keep working on these issues and get the patch out as soon as we can. I don't want to give you an ETA as I cannot guarantee it will be met at this stage. Apologies once again from all at SI for not getting the patch out to you today. What a f*cking joke.Have a great weekend, you useless c*nts. iom this is pure horse sh*tt, i bet they didnt even try the game on a mac befour the release. this is unreal! wat a waste of money!!!!!!!!at least the punks could have given us a ETA! lazy mugs should say in the office until its complete! signed. Marc u reading this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBruntsfield Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 is the right click thing gonna b fixed in the patch? It's in the change list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambolt Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Its not playable at all.Right click is a joke. Hundreds of bugs, injury after injury, and then it just crashes on the first game. Not worth the £30 I'd say, would you? The crashing on the first game doesn't apply to everyone, it seems. You should try clearing out your caches with an app like Cocktail or Leopard Cache Cleaner. Anyway, I know I'm going to be playing this game for a year, and the fact that I have to play an unpatched version this first weekend isn't really ruining it for me. Normally we wouldn't expect a patch on release day anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bow wow Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I know every year we have the issue of waiting for the patch which is normally a week or two after the release, but this year has been a complete disaster. I'm a mac user and I know we won't be getting the patch today which effectively renders the game unplayable (right click bug) and from what I've read most PC users are having a disaster trying to activate the game. So people have gone out today and spent upwards of £40 on something which around 5-10% will actually be able to play, therefore I ask why not release the game next Friday? it would have given the chance for the game to be complete and might have given time to get some organisation into place in terms of activating the game. To be honest this kind of behaviour is completely unacceptable. If a similar situation arose with a company such as Tescos for example there would be absolute chaos with complaints to trading standards. It really does break my heart to say this because I like most people just grin and bear and when up and working properly it really is one of the greatest and most addictive games you could wish for, but this year has been one almighty disaster, I really think the release process needs reviewing as people like myself are getting increasingly frustrated with being mugged of year after year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scriblerus Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Delaying the patch release until Monday isn't good enough. It was clearly thought vital to have a patch ready for PC users on release - and not just for graphic card compatibility, but for data updates and gameplay issues. It's also vital to have a Mac patch ready - especially given the absurd right-click issue. When a company screws up as hugely as SI on this release, you haul the workforce in over the weekend. Then on Monday you sack the ones who screwed up. (btw, who did order the dot matrix print job? Had they ever seen a dot-matrix print job before?) Bad form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneAndOnlyJDB Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Will the patch fix the issue where the medium and high graphic settings for 3D pitch view are grayed out, currently i can only select low!!! BTW i have the brand new macbook pro so graphic cards shouldnt be an issue. I have to agree with you all that this is been one of the worst launches for a game period! The fact that both Windows and Mac users cannot play the game on the day of release makes me disappointed. Is SI becoming the new EA games? When i went to the opticians to collect my contact lenses, they lost them, they apologized and ordered some more. As compensation they also gave me an extra months worth of lenses (worth about £40). We should get compensation for a product we have all payed for, that simply hasn't delivered. The fact that both SI and Sega have made no announcement until the last minute really makes the whole situation worse. A bad policy, a bad launch, a bad company. I like many other FM die hard fans feel our loyalty means nothing. Moreover, the fact that windows gets a patch and Mac doesnt makes me as a consumer feel alienated and secondary. I am glad to see that i am not the only one unhappy today! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUFC MAN Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Will the patch fix the issue where the medium and high graphic settings for 3D pitch view are grayed out, currently i can only select low!!!BTW i have the brand new macbook pro so graphic cards shouldnt be an issue. I have to agree with you all that this is been one of the worst launches for a game period! The fact that both Windows and Mac users cannot play the game on the day of release makes me disappointed. Is SI becoming the new EA games? When i went to the opticians to collect my contact lenses, they lost them, they apologized and ordered some more. As compensation they also gave me an extra months worth of lenses (worth about £40). We should get compensation for a product we have all payed for, that simply hasn't delivered. The fact that both SI and Sega have made no announcement until the last minute really makes the whole situation worse. A bad policy, a bad launch, a bad company. I like many other FM die hard fans feel our loyalty means nothing. Moreover, the fact that windows gets a patch and Mac doesnt makes me as a consumer feel alienated and secondary. I am glad to see that i am not the only one unhappy today! eh hasnt the patch been released yet? expected after my drunken night itd b released Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emjayteef Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 +1 waiting here right click bug is the main thing, nothing else as yet, though that is pretty major bug. SI, when can we expect our patch? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Charles Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I just find it laughable how releasing a patch that makes the game even playable on Monday has been put forward as remotely acceptable. It's not my problem that you've managed a monumental f*ck up elsewhere. Morons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel_lfc Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 they dont care about the players they dont care about the fans sports interactive is in the wrong hands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bow wow Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Nope afraid not LUFC, Monday will be the earliest but don't hold your breath. I think mac users will be the last thing on the minds of SI at the moment due to the huge failure of the PC launch. Don't forget mac users make up a tiny percentage of users compared to PC users therefore I wouldn't be expecting any announcements soon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Charles Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I wonder just how embarrassed SI are going to feel if the anti-piracy method is rendered obsolete before they've even managed to sort out the Mac patch. Then again, after the sheer incompetence displayed today, I honestly can't tell if they'll be that bothered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Will the patch fix the issue where the medium and high graphic settings for 3D pitch view are grayed out, currently i can only select low!!!BTW i have the brand new macbook pro so graphic cards shouldnt be an issue. I have to agree with you all that this is been one of the worst launches for a game period! The fact that both Windows and Mac users cannot play the game on the day of release makes me disappointed. Is SI becoming the new EA games? When i went to the opticians to collect my contact lenses, they lost them, they apologized and ordered some more. As compensation they also gave me an extra months worth of lenses (worth about £40). We should get compensation for a product we have all payed for, that simply hasn't delivered. The fact that both SI and Sega have made no announcement until the last minute really makes the whole situation worse. A bad policy, a bad launch, a bad company. I like many other FM die hard fans feel our loyalty means nothing. Moreover, the fact that windows gets a patch and Mac doesnt makes me as a consumer feel alienated and secondary. I am glad to see that i am not the only one unhappy today! You are definitely not the only one ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursWHL Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 ......as much as i'd love the patch to be released, i'm more than happy to wait for it so it can be 'spot on'. btwn - Does anybody know if Marc Vaughan still works at SI????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel_lfc Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 ......as much as i'd love the patch to be released, i'm more than happy to wait for it so it can be 'spot on'.btwn - Does anybody know if Marc Vaughan still works at SI????? How long will you be waiting? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeles Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 i say we all boycott Football Manager! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursWHL Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 How long will you be waiting? ooohhh, come now. Usually the first patch makes the game pretty slick indeed. Yes, while this release seems to be having *cough, cough* some troubles, when you get the patch and play all will be forgotten...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUFC MAN Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Unbelievable, thought after my drunken stuper id be downloadin the new patch, ridiculous whats point in starting a game when a patch iminent, disapointed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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