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14 hours ago, Bigpapa42 said:

So this is just about planning. Which I've done before with no progress, but figure it can't hurt to ask....

Built a gaming PC back in 2011 and its held up surprisingly well. Intel i5-2500K, AMD Radeon 6950 video card (4GB), 8 GB Ram, and a nice big case (HAF X). The mobo went a couple of years ago and I had to replace it, so also upgraded to an SSD for the OS. Power supply went last year and had to replace that. I've been mulling an overall upgrade, but a new processor, mobo, video card, and RAM is going to get pricey.

Part of my hesitation is how much of a difference it will really make. I mostly play FM on this rig. I run 25-30 leagues and it starts to slow down after a couple of seasons. But the graphics aren't really a big deal in FM anyway. Play some other games like Farming Simulator (don't judge me), No Man's Sky, and a few others, but not a ton of FPS shooters (those tend to be console games for me).

I've seen some recommendations for the new AMD Ryzen processors. Anyone have any experience with them? Back when I built this rig, AMD seemed to be a full step behind Intel, but I'm not so sure that's the case now. Would a newer processor like the AMD Ryzen 1500 or 1600, mobo, and maybe 16 GBs of RAM make all that much processing difference in games like FM?

Upgrading the video card is a pretty big investment. Something like a GTX 1060 or 1070 is going to be $300 plus. But sticking with the same video card I currently have will bottle-neck overall performance. That won't matter too much on games like FM, but would moreso on games like No Man's Sky. Still, its a way to do the upgrade in stages and not have to shell out as much at once.

Basically, would I see much of a performance boost from a process/mobo/RAM upgrade, and would the bottle neck but too ugly to use the same video card for a time?

Quite a loaded question to be honest.

I think you'd benefit from going through PC Specialist and looking at what they have to offer. Great builds of computer for a great price. Plus their tech support on the forum is brilliant. 

I wouldn't imagine the queries you posted here suit me to answer - as I don't play any other games at all, other than FM12. 

I'd highly recommend PC Specialist and their forums to address your queries, especially in other games.

 

 

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9 hours ago, andyt365 said:

Wondered what sort of computer would be required to run about a dozen or so of the major leagues in FM17. I have a 6 year old iMac which is in need of replacement. Im opting for a pc to play FM. What sort of barebones kit (Memory, processor) would be required to run those leagues quickly?

Thanks

Minimum specs for FM are:

2.2ghz processor
2gb RAM
Graphics card for 3D matches. 

 

Basic you should look for in PC

Best processor you can afford that goes faster than 2.2ghz 
8gb RAM
Best graphics card you can afford (if you don't want 3D matches then you can forgo this - however, if you play other games then this is needed).

 

Let me know budget and I can take a look for you.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Smurf said:

Quite a loaded question to be honest.

I think you'd benefit from going through PC Specialist and looking at what they have to offer. Great builds of computer for a great price. Plus their tech support on the forum is brilliant. 

I wouldn't imagine the queries you posted here suit me to answer - as I don't play any other games at all, other than FM12. 

I'd highly recommend PC Specialist and their forums to address your queries, especially in other games.

 

 

yeah, not a simple one. Thanks for the response. I've been mulling asking on a PC specific forum for a bit but held off - I can't really afford the upgrade at the moment, so I don't want to get too far into planning. But I am just curious. Thanks again!

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Hello to all FM fans!

I would like to ask you if what you think about this configuration. It´s would be mainly for playing FM.

Intel core i7-7700 (3,6GHz - 4,2GHz, HT), 16GB DDR4 CRUCIAL 2400MHz,  Intel HD Graphics, 240GB SSD Kingston Now UV400, 350W source SEASONIC SSP-350ST 80Plus Bronze. (https://www.czc.cz/czc-pc-office-i7-ssd-w10-pro/207656/produkt)

I watch matches only in 2D so I don´t need good graphic card. I do believe that this PC would be great for FM, but my only issue is the source. This PC is meant for office work so I´m worried about the noise during intense FM playing.

Thank you very much in advance for any possible reply :)

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Hi guys, 

Sorry I'm coming in on this quite late. Been an FM fan for years and need a new laptop. I dont tend to go for 3d match engine but like a good size database of players. I've been reading what has been posted and have found the laptop below.

https://www.tesco.com/direct/hp-14-bw021na-14-amd-a6-quadcore-8gb-ram-1tb-hdd-laptop-with-dvdrw-white/615-2571.prd?skuId=615-2571

Would be grateful of your thoughts or alternatives. My budget is about £450, £500 tops. It seems to give the 8Gb and good storage. Just not sure on the processor.

Thanks.

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Did you have 14 inch in mind?

This is the only one I can find that would hand 3D graphics well - but processor suffers - that leads to smaller amount of leagues loaded and smaller database unfortunately for longer career saves (over 10 years)

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X556UB-DM262T-ASUS-X556UB-DM262T_1966546.html

If you want to play with 3D graphics on the lowest setting

I'd be torn on these 3 - favouring the middle one.

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X541UA-XX202T-ASUS-X541UA-XX202T_2059132.html

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.GE5EK.008-Acer-Aspire-E5-575-with-white-lid_2096338.html

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X540LA-XX194T-ASUS-X540LA-XX194T_1952554.html

 

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Hi all

 

My desktop is on its last legs & i have decided to get a laptop instead. I play fm 15 in 3d & only load the english leagues with a large database.  Does anybody know what spec laptop i would need.  I dont really want to spend a fortune either.

 

Many thanks Brian 

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3 hours ago, mootama said:

Hi all

 

My desktop is on its last legs & i have decided to get a laptop instead. I play fm 15 in 3d & only load the english leagues with a large database.  Does anybody know what spec laptop i would need.  I dont really want to spend a fortune either.

 

Many thanks Brian 

On 9/7/2017 at 13:43, Smurf said:

Minimum specs for FM are:

2.2ghz processor
2gb RAM
Graphics card for 3D matches. 

 

Basic you should look for in PC

Best processor you can afford that goes faster than 2.2ghz 
8gb RAM
Best graphics card you can afford (if you don't want 3D matches then you can forgo this - however, if you play other games then this is needed).

 

Let me know budget and I can take a look for you.

 

 

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Hi, so im brand new to this sub and was wondering if my laptop would slow down if i download Football Manager 2017 on to it. I also wanted to know if my laptop would be able to download facepacks onto it without slowing the game down. Thanks. 

  • Laptop Specs: Asus Laptop
  • Intel Core I5- 7200U CPU @2.50GHz 2.71GHz 
  • Says it has 12GB installed Ram but only 11.9GB usable. 
  • 64bit Operating System
  • I only watch my matches in 2d and would like to load up 4 leagues.
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On 9/2/2017 at 11:05, Smurf said:

Again - my personal opinion - please research screen size, weight of laptop etc. until you're satisfied - please research all elements as posted as it is just my opinion.

Remember to always ask the question before you buy! And Always post your laptop you're going to buy in this thread - as there are some excellent people who can point you in the right direction!

 

Laptops of the Week

£0-£450 -Not good for 3D graphics - recommend playing on lowest setting if you must

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X541UA-XX202T-ASUS-X541UA-XX202T_2059132.html

This is  better - still 3D graphics would struggle

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/1BV19EAABU-HP-15-ba044na_2066581.html

 

£450-£650 - Both really good for 3D graphics

This is great - however, it has a small harddrive and you'd either need to swap it out - or get an external drive/flash drive

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J562-1673-MSI-GL62-7QF-1673UK_2066567.html

This is also very good (slightly older processor and a tiny bit slower) 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.G66EK.004-Acer-Aspire-V15-in-Black_2095447.html

 

£650-£800

This is the sister to the one above that's only  better by virtue that  it has more storage space 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J562-1673-MSI-GL62-7QF-1673UK_2080715.html

This is a great one for 800
https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ZX553VD-DM969T-ASUS-Gaming-ZX553VD-DM969T_2145527.html

£800-£1,200

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J962-207-MSI-GL62M-7RD-207UK_2065202.html

In for a penny...in for a pound

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-179BC3-615-MSI-GP72MVR-7RFX(Leopard-Pro)-615UK_2202625.html

 

 

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On 8/25/2017 at 17:19, Smurf said:

Specs for FM graphics card

Graphics Cards: Cards equal to or better than the following: 

  • Intel GMA X4500
  • NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
  • AMD/ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650

 

Anything above this should be in theory good enough. However, the GMA X4500 is an integrated into chipsets - and if one was to look at processors with this they may end up with a processor with less than 2.2ghz speed (which is recommended).

 

As long as you stay above the 9600m GT or the Radeon HD 3650 range then you should be good. 

All 19 posted above are better than those. So they should in theory be good.

 

 

 

 

Hi, Smurf.

 

For your info, i've purchased the HP Omen 15 inch.

More or less, the specs are as follow:

  • Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ Processor (2.8 GHz base frequency, up to 3.8 GHz with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology, 6 MB cache, 4 cores)
  • Windows 10 Home 64
  • 15.6" diagonal FHD 120 Hz IPS anti-glare WLED-backlit (1920 x 1080)
  • 16 GB DDR4-2400 SDRAM (2 x 8 GB); 1 TB 7200 rpm SATA
  • NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 (6 GB GDDR5 dedicated)

The laptop is running smooth and great as i have 5 stars rating to run FM2017.  

However, when i connect it to my 27 inch Philips external monitor via HDMI, i'm experiencing some glitches and stuttering.

Below are the specs for my external monitor:

LCD panel type:  AH-IPS LCD
Backlight type:  W-LED system
Panel Size:  27 inch / 68.6 cm
Effective viewing area:  597.89 (H) x 336.31 (V)
Aspect ratio:  16:9
Optimum resolution:  1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz
SmartResponse (typical):  5 ms (Grey to Grey)
Brightness:  250  cd/m²
Contrast ratio (typical):  1000:1
SmartContrast:  20,000,000:1
Pixel pitch:  0.311 x 0.311 mm
Viewing angle:  178º (H) / 178º (V)  @ C/R > 10
Picture enhancement:  SmartImage Lite
Display colors:  16.7 M
Scanning Frequency:  30 -83 kHz (H) / 56 -75 Hz (V)
MHL:  1080p@30Hz
sRGB:  Yes
Any idea why i'm experiencing the glitches and stuttering..?
Thank you. :)
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56 minutes ago, ak71 said:

Hi, Smurf.

 

For your info, i've purchased the HP Omen 15 inch.

More or less, the specs are as follow:

  • Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ Processor (2.8 GHz base frequency, up to 3.8 GHz with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology, 6 MB cache, 4 cores)
  • Windows 10 Home 64
  • 15.6" diagonal FHD 120 Hz IPS anti-glare WLED-backlit (1920 x 1080)
  • 16 GB DDR4-2400 SDRAM (2 x 8 GB); 1 TB 7200 rpm SATA
  • NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 (6 GB GDDR5 dedicated)

The laptop is running smooth and great as i have 5 stars rating to run FM2017.  

However, when i connect it to my 27 inch Philips external monitor via HDMI, i'm experiencing some glitches and stuttering.

Below are the specs for my external monitor:

LCD panel type:  AH-IPS LCD
Backlight type:  W-LED system
Panel Size:  27 inch / 68.6 cm
Effective viewing area:  597.89 (H) x 336.31 (V)
Aspect ratio:  16:9
Optimum resolution:  1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz
SmartResponse (typical):  5 ms (Grey to Grey)
Brightness:  250  cd/m²
Contrast ratio (typical):  1000:1
SmartContrast:  20,000,000:1
Pixel pitch:  0.311 x 0.311 mm
Viewing angle:  178º (H) / 178º (V)  @ C/R > 10
Picture enhancement:  SmartImage Lite
Display colors:  16.7 M
Scanning Frequency:  30 -83 kHz (H) / 56 -75 Hz (V)
MHL:  1080p@30Hz
sRGB:  Yes
Any idea why i'm experiencing the glitches and stuttering..?
Thank you. :)

I see - most likely a graphics driver issue - head over the the technical forum - I'm sure someone can help you out there. 

Usually there's an update to the Graphics Card available. 

 

21 minutes ago, mootama said:

Thanks smurf   Budget will be around the £500 mark

This is ok if you play 3D matches it would be good https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/Products/cat/Laptops/refine/max~500$46563~67690$46567~171251

However, the processor is a bit underpar - so you wouldn't get to load a lot of leauges and/or large databases.

 

This is one I posted in my weekly recommendations (as above)

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X541UA-XX202T-ASUS-X541UA-XX202T_2059132.html

It would be quite good, if you play 3D then play on lowest settings (or until you're satisified)

Or something like this -

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X540LA-XX194T-ASUS-X540LA-XX194T_1952554.html

 

If anyone else wants to weigh-in?

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18 hours ago, appetitefordestruction said:

What's the best I can get for around a grand? I've been looking for discount codes on HP, Lenovo etc.. but not sure if I'm missing out on anything

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX553VD-DM595T-ASUS-Gaming-FX553VD-DM595T_2119185.html

 

18 hours ago, jckc221013jamie said:

what about these specs 

i5 7400 3ghz boost 3.5ghz

16 gig ddr4 corsair 2400mhz

gigabyte b250 motherboard 

240 pny ssd

gtx 1060 6gig

gold rated be quit 550w

 

That would be an amazing config and more than enough for FM.

 

17 hours ago, JimV said:

If the only game I play is FM17 is there anything out there for <£400 (latptop)?

Cheers.

 

 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/F2T36EAABU-HP-Pavilion-15-aw004na_1983584.html

Don't expect to play too many leagues/database size reduced, and 3D graphics probably won't be great even on lowest settings - 

16 hours ago, RorysRocketThrow said:

May I ask a really daft question? 

How well will a 1050 graphics card run the 3d engine?  High settings?

It depends which model you get 


GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (Notebook)    768 @ 1493 - 1620 (Boost) MHz    128 Bit @ 7000 MHz
GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (Desktop)    768 @ 1290 - 1392 (Boost) MHz    128 Bit @ 7008 MHz
GeForce GTX 1050 (Desktop)    640 @ 1354 - 1455 (Boost) MHz    128 Bit @ 7008 MHz
GeForce GTX 1050 (Notebook)    640 @ 1354 - 1493 (Boost) MHz    128 Bit @ 7000 MHz

Obviously faster is better. 

How does it play on FM - I don't know I don't have that model.

You'll just have to try it out - and you might be happy with the performance on highest settings - where others may not.

The performance will vary depending on the heat generated during play 

You can always tweak it back until you're happy.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1050-Ti-Notebook.168400.0.html

 

16 hours ago, appetitefordestruction said:

Via a student discount I can get the lenovo Y520 smaller HDD for 989, decent deal?

 

http://www3.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/ideapad/legion-y-series/Lenovo-Y520-15IKBN/p/88GMY500808?clickid=w%3AkwmRSQpTAYVe93FVT5zzPFUkmzNAU5XRxwUo0&Program=3766&pid=121977&acid=ww:affiliate:74clty&cid=uk:affiliate:rk5fv4

It's an ok computer - however, the hard drive is the slowest model out there it's 5400 RPM - the next one up being standard is 7200rpm and then there's a higher end one that has a speed of 10,000 RPM. 

For 989 - see my recommendation above in regards for a computer around 1000

10 hours ago, jckc221013jamie said:

RorysRocketThrow i run a 1050 ti and got 5 star graphics performance every thing on very high mate

Good to know - thanks! 

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Hi, the last game I bought was fm14, and haven't had a laptop since then. Really want to get back into it though, would this be ok for fm18? £899 dell inspiron from pc world, thanks guys.

Technical specifications for DELL Inspiron 15 5000 15.6" Gaming Laptop - Black

OVERVIEW
Type Gaming laptop
Operating system Windows 10 (64-bit)
SPECIFICATION
Processor - Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ
- Quad-core
- 2.8 GHz / 3.8 GHz (Turbo Boost)
- 6 MB cache
RAM 8 GB (2400 MHz) (32 maximum installable RAM)
Graphics card - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
- 4 GB GDDR5
- 10th generation Pascal
Storage - 1 TB HDD, 5400 rpm
- 128 GB SSD
SCREEN
Touchscreen No
Screen size 15.6"
Screen type LED
Resolution 1920 x 1080
Screen features - Anti-glare
- LED backlighting
CONNECTIVITY
Wireless - Intel® 3165-AC
- 1x1
- Up to 433 Mbps
Ethernet Gigabit Ethernet (10/100/1000)
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.2
USB USB 3.0 x 3
Video interface HDMI 1.4a x 1
Audio interface 3.5 mm jack
Other connections Miracast
MEDIA
Optical disc drive No
Memory card reader 2-in-1 memory card reader
SOUND
Sound Waves MaxxAudio Pro
Speakers Stereo speakers & subwoofer
FEATURES
Camera HD 720p webcam
Microphone Yes
Mouse / trackpad Multi-touch trackpad
Keyboard Full-size backlit keyboard with numeric keypad
Security features Kensington security lock slot
POWER
Battery type 6-cell Lithium-ion
Battery life Up to 11 hours, 50 minutes
GENERAL
Colour Black
Box contents - Dell Inspiron 15 5000 15.6" Gaming Laptop (5577)
- AC power adapter
Dimensions 25.3 x 383 x 265 mm (H x W x D)
Weight 2.47 kg
Manufacturer’s guarantee 1 year
Software included * Full version of Microsoft Office not included
* Full version of anti-virus / internet security not included

- Microsoft Office 365 trial version
- McAfee LiveSafe trial version
- Dell Digital Delivery
- Dell Recovery Environment
- Adobe
- SupportAssist
- Dropbox
 
£899.00
Save £200.00
Was £1,099.00 (from 08/07/2017 to 31/07/201

 

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3 hours ago, AndyisaGooden said:

Hi guys,

Am I in dreamland trying to pick up a laptop to run FM18 for £200/250?

Doesnt need to be new...

 

Maybe this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dell-VOSTRO-LAPTOP-2-5GHz-WINDOWS/dp/B0752V121P/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1505145566&sr=1-1

Press them for more specs though. It's hard to know.

 

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9 hours ago, Smurf said:

 

 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/F2T36EAABU-HP-Pavilion-15-aw004na_1983584.html

Don't expect to play too many leagues/database size reduced, and 3D graphics probably won't be great even on lowest settings - 

 

Thanks for the advice.

 

I currently have a desktop which is on its last legs and can run FM17 but the graphics are so bad I have to holiday through games (half a star on the graphics capability in "preferences".

 

What I'm after is the cheapest laptop that will run FM17 with no problems with full spec graphics; I usually start a game with five or so leagues and would like the option of a large database. Apart from FM17 (soon to be FM18 obviously) I don't play games and just use it for bog standard photos, internet, spreadsheet etc stuff. My original comment about only playing FM17 was to highlight I have no need for a gaming machine.

 

Do I take it I need to add on another £200 or so to my £400 budget just to get a laptop that will run FM17 on full graphics (four stars or more on graphics capability)?

 

 

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2 hours ago, godsjobsagoodun said:

Hi, the last game I bought was fm14, and haven't had a laptop since then. Really want to get back into it though, would this be ok for fm18? £899 dell inspiron from pc world 

  • Gaming: Play the latest titles
  • Windows 10
  • Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ processor
  • RAM: 8 GB / Storage: 1 TB HDD & 128 GB SSD
  • Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050M

Looks good - not much else out there to beat it. 

The 1050M will slow when getting hot, it depends on the cooling in the computer - therefore, get a laptop cooler and you should be good.

 

2 hours ago, thnigelfc said:

Hi Guys

I'm thinking of getting new laptop will mainly be used  for FM, Music and keeping videos and pictures 

of Grandkids on. What's the best I can get for £450-£550?

TIA Guys

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X541UA-XX202T-ASUS-X541UA-XX202T_2059132.html

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X540LA-XX194T-ASUS-X540LA-XX194T_1952554.html

Not much to choose from - either or - I'd be on for the top one.

 

38 minutes ago, JimV said:

 

Thanks for the advice.

 

I currently have a desktop which is on its last legs and can run FM17 but the graphics are so bad I have to holiday through games (half a star on the graphics capability in "preferences".

 

What I'm after is the cheapest laptop that will run FM17 with no problems with full spec graphics; I usually start a game with five or so leagues and would like the option of a large database. Apart from FM17 (soon to be FM18 obviously) I don't play games and just use it for bog standard photos, internet, spreadsheet etc stuff. My original comment about only playing FM17 was to highlight I have no need for a gaming machine.

 

Do I take it I need to add on another £200 or so to my £400 budget just to get a laptop that will run FM17 on full graphics (four stars or more on graphics capability)?

 

 

For 600 this is what you can get

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J562-1673-MSI-GL62-7QF-1673UK_2066567.html

The hard drive is relatively small though - if you're not going to need a lot of space then this good. But if you feel you need more then you can pick up a USB 3.0 flash drive cheap enough or an external drive etc.

 

This is quite nice too - 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.G66EK.004-Acer-Aspire-V15-in-Black_2202524.html

More storage - same price - practically identical - it's a tiny bit lower in specs, but nothing that worries me.

 

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Quick question that maybe @Smurfor someone else can help me with. 

I loved my previous laptop, but didn't buy as well the last time and it turns out the processor wasn't great, (2.00 GHz).. 

It's not really good enough for FM so I need an upgrade and I'm just wondering if it's realistic to upgrade the laptop or should I pass this one onto the kids and get a new one?

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Any advice would be appreciated. 

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15 hours ago, Horno said:

Hi Smurf,

I was wondering if you could tell me if this machine will be capable of running FM18?

Thnaks for any help, much appreciated!

http://www.harveynorman.ie/computing/laptops/lenovo-310-15.6-amd-a12-8gb-1tb.html

I wouldn't be able to tell you - it only states it's a AMD A12 - with no other info. It's impossible to know without the correct processor model number.

It looks like it might be the AMD 12-9700P that's the only one I can find in the 2.5ghz range. 

Otherwise - the hard drive is the slowest model - 5200RPM compared to the standard of 7400RPM and the fastest being 10,000RPM.

There's no mention of a graphics card either. 

 

I think this one is better to be honest https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.G66EK.004-Acer-Aspire-V15-in-Black_2095447.html

 

 

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15 hours ago, SlayerX said:

For all the people asking whether or not a computer will be able to handle Football manager: Go here

There's a section "How well will my computer run Football manager 2017. Just punch in the GPU, CPU and RAM then you'll get your answers. 

Problem is people don't necessarily know what specs to put onto those sites. 

All good if you know what you're doing and happy doing it. 

I think this thread evolved from the point that people don't know anything about computers, but have a certain budget and want to play FM on a new computer. 

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Honestly I do try other sites like Amazon, Very, John Lewis, Harvey Norman etc. 

1 it's arduous to go through the selection process, for example, on Amazon it's unclear whether it's 1st or 2nd hand or where it's coming from, if it's a clearance item - and the prices are not the same elsewhere.

2 - the selection process over various sites for the necessary parts are not always there -the selection process on SaveonLaptops and Laptopsdirect, whereas it's slow, but it's still better than any other site.

3 - a lot of sites are very unclear to the actual parts that are in the computer - for example, Harvey Norman simply said it was an ADM 12 2.5ghz - and there's a bit of research involved there to find out exactly what processor it is. Turns out it was an AMD 12 9700P - and that involved further research. 

4 - I find a lot of sites selling top notch laptops but the Hard Drive inside is only a 5200RPM - and I wouldn't wish that an anyone - and certainly when I go by budget and SaveOnLaptops are selling better specs, with SSDs or other 7400, or 10000 RPM drives, with newer parts for cheaper.

 

Whether the same laptops can be found elsewhere - I don't know - but I find the selection process and the prices better than other sites, so I tend to use it more often. 

 

If there's other suggestions or anyone wants to use another site - by all means do - I'm not tied to any particular website/brand. 

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5 hours ago, Smurf said:

Problem is people don't necessarily know what specs to put onto those sites. 

All good if you know what you're doing and happy doing it. 

I think this thread evolved from the point that people don't know anything about computers, but have a certain budget and want to play FM on a new computer. 

True, but it's pretty simple, even for a novice. It's not like you have to be an IT hero.

I do think it's a good site, probably worthy of being sticky'd.

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1 hour ago, SlayerX said:

True, but it's pretty simple, even for a novice. It's not like you have to be an IT hero.

I do think it's a good site, probably worthy of being sticky'd.

Problem is - it might tell you your computer is up to scratch and good for Football Manager, based on the specs given and matching against certain criteria. 

However, if someone has a 2.2.ghz i3 processor with no turbo boost- no graphics card and 4gb RAM - the online system will tell you it's good for FM. 

And it wouldn't be good enough to run 20 leagues, large database with graphics on full 

 

Below are specs for an i7 computer that I used to have - and it has a 2.0ghz processor - 8gb - 950M etc. 

And I can tell you outright, this rig does not play FM 17 with any degree of quality - especially on 8 leagues (all divisions), large database, and with 3D graphics set to Low.

It's fine for FM12 though and was a great computer 5 years ago.

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It's also recommending to upgrade the graphics card - but in this particular rig the Graphics card cannot be updated.

 

 

It's a nice site - and gives a ball park idea.

 

 

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I'd echo Smurf's comments, those type of sites are great for linear games or those where the experience is defined by the graphics settings but for FM they are not much use as all you can guarantee is that you can run the game with a single league loaded, they do not take into acccount the end user experience is on what is essentially a cpu limited game.

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2 hours ago, Smurf said:

Problem is - it might tell you your computer is up to scratch and good for Football Manager, based on the specs given and matching against certain criteria. 

However, if someone has a 2.2.ghz i3 processor with no turbo boost- no graphics card and 4gb RAM - the online system will tell you it's good for FM. 

And it wouldn't be good enough to run 20 leagues, large database with graphics on full 

 

Below are specs for an i7 computer that I used to have - and it has a 2.0ghz processor - 8gb - 950M etc. 

And I can tell you outright, this rig does not play FM 17 with any degree of quality - especially on 8 leagues (all divisions), large database, and with 3D graphics set to Low.

It's fine for FM12 though and was a great computer 5 years ago.

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It's also recommending to upgrade the graphics card - but in this particular rig the Graphics card cannot be updated.

 

 

It's a nice site - and gives a ball park idea.

 

 

Yeahhhh... most of went over my head. I'm not much of a gamer. My previous pc couldn't even handle Minecraft... seriously. My idea of gaming is playing on a SNES/Megadrive emulator.  :sega:

 

Now, if someone asked me how to outline a novel or structure a plot then I'm your man. :)

It's good that you're hear to edumicate people. Seriously.  :)

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