BoroPhil Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 If this is the case, I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but is it my imagination or do players on a hat-trick automatically get to take a pen if one arrives? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 yes they do, every time i believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 In FM 12 this is how it is set, but there have been many requests from users to at least stop the game and ask the manager if this is what he wants. It was supposed to be a nice touch but wasnt thought through if the penalty was critical and the guy on a hat trick had rubbich penalty attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 yup, made for some intersting things. I had Vidic take one once.. and he scored it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoroPhil Posted October 13, 2012 Author Share Posted October 13, 2012 In FM 12 this is how it is set, but there have been many requests from users to at least stop the game and ask the manager if this is what he wants. It was supposed to be a nice touch but wasnt thought through if the penalty was critical and the guy on a hat trick had rubbich penalty attributes. yeah, I was just thinking that, I've had it a couple of times but neither have been crucial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterOfSuspense Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 As long as it's not Ashley Young or Nani Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tresfainent Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 This is another thing that has always bothered me. Granted usually if I have a guy on a hat trick and a penalty I've got the game won but I don't like that it ignores your normal penalty takers just to give the guy a chance to get his hat trick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo_rune Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I'm pretty sure, in the around 40-50 seasons of FM12 I've played, that I've never had this cost me a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I'm pretty sure, in the around 40-50 seasons of FM12 I've played, that I've never had this cost me a game. Sadly, i have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocuous Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I think I've only had it cost me a game one time before (and I think it's been in the game since FM 08), but nevertheless it's a silly feature. If a player gets a brace and you want him to take a penalty should you get one, then you should have to do it manually. Either that or perhaps a prompt for when you get the penalty. But it certainly shouldn't just happen automatically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Sadly, i have Me too & more than just the once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 A tick box in our tactics to allow players on a brace to take penalties would be handy. Fair enough, players can ignore our instructions on the pitch (as they currently do with this feature), but we should at least have the ability to have a word with them afterwards to make sure it doesn't happen again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Pop-up box is needed asking me wether I want the player with two goals to take it, someone else, or the first one from my penalty taking list who is available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Me too & more than just the once. What's your worst? can you beat the F.A cup final? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 It has been spoke about quite a bit on the forum. I had it cost me games,the 1 that springs to mind and still annoys me is when we came from 2 goals down to make it 2-2 and a penalty with 10 minutes to go,my CB who scored both goals with headers from corners and a penalty rating of I think 7 stepped up and promptly put it wide.Things got made worse when the opposing team got a penalty in injury time and scored...I was pretty livid. Hopefully this has either been sorted for FM13 or has been taken out of the game completely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyzer Soze Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Pop-up box it's the way to solve it. It's a nice thing the potencial hat-trick guy got the chance to score the penalty... but when you are 2-2... you want your best penalty taker... not your central defender who score two goals from corner kicks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 What's your worst? can you beat the F.A cup final? You win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibby123 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 You could even add the override option to stop a player getting his hat trick and it causes morale drop or something or him losing his rag if low proffesionalism. Like drogba lampard a few seasons ago irl when chelsea had a pen and were well ahead, drogba was chasing golden boot but lampard insisted he took it? A pop up override would be good. And sometimes players ignore you? something else relevant to man manage/add in post match press conference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshpmilton Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 You win. There you go stevie_g, you've finally won something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 There you go stevie_g, you've finally won something. Indeed, partys in the street tonight! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyzer Soze Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 You could even add the override option to stop a player getting his hat trick and it causes morale drop or something or him losing his rag if low proffesionalism. Like drogba lampard a few seasons ago irl when chelsea had a pen and were well ahead, drogba was chasing golden boot but lampard insisted he took it? A pop up override would be good. And sometimes players ignore you? something else relevant to man manage/add in post match press conference? This would be priceless! Pop-up come up, you said is player A to take the penaltie, but player B dont follow your order and took it anyway! This happens sometimes irl. Last season Bojinov overwrite the order from Sa Pinto and took the penaltie in a Sporting game. He missed, and Sporting draw the game. Post match press conference it would be one i'll attend for sure! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winto Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I think sometimes, even in a crucial situation, it can be realistic that a player will step up despite not being the penalty taker if they are on a hattrick. Often we see players argue over who takes what, and I am sure the manager has no control over plenty of decisions like this during a game. Perhaps there could be a way to speak or even punish a player after the event. I certainly think the personality of the players and the captain especially should affect what happens, and at no point should a centre back (unless a specialist) be allowed to take one, hattrick or no hattrick. But this might be far too complicated to implement so perhaps it should just be removed. I have always wanted the ability to change the penalty taker at the last minute, maybe that option would be better. Say when you get a penalty, you can have a menu pop up and chose your player, perhaps a striker in a dry patch or if your penalty taker is having a torrid game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakaveliPT Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 This only happens if you don't have another player marked to take the penalties as you can see here, juarez is marked as penalty taker Leandro scored an hattrick before the penalty That might happen only if you do not have another player marked as the penalty taker, i don't see any need for changes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinsFan86 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 This only happens if you don't have another player marked to take the penalties as you can see here, juarez is marked as penalty taker Leandro scored an hattrick before the penalty That might happen only if you do not have another player marked as the penalty taker, i don't see any need for changes It happens when the penalty will give the player in question a hattrick, not when they already have a hatrick. (As is the case in the screenshot you posted.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 This only happens if you don't have another player marked to take the penalties as you can see here, juarez is marked as penalty taker Leandro scored an hattrick before the penalty That might happen only if you do not have another player marked as the penalty taker, i don't see any need for changes That makes no sense to the topic whatsoever. "Leandro scored an hattrick before the penalty" The guy had already scored a hat-trick before the penalty. It makes no difference if you have 6 guys listed as penalty takers if another player has scored 2 he will be taking the penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakaveliPT Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Oh i'm sorry then, mislead by the OP, if he only has 2 goals then he's not on a hat trick yet. What doesn't make sense is saying a player is on an hattrick when he still only has 2 goals imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 That'll be the English language for you, full of phrases that do not appear to make sense. When someone has a brace of goals then they are on a hattrick (probably a shortening of 'on target for a hattrick'), once they bag the third goal they have a hattrick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 That'll be the English language for you, full of phrases that do not appear to make sense.When someone has a brace of goals then they are on a hattrick (probably a shortening of 'on target for a hattrick'), once they bag the third goal they have a hattrick. Hehe, When you put it like that it is quite strange. If I was to say "I am on a date" well I am indeed on a date. If I said "I am on top of the hill" I am indeed on top of the hill. If I say "I am on a hat-trick" then that means I need 1 more goal for the hat-trick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakaveliPT Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 ^ LOL exactly. I'm not english so i won't debate the language with you english fellas ofc, but i guess it should be onto an hat-trick? or simply when they only have 2 goals lol, i mean if they are On whatever they ARE already there. Anyway i didn't meant to look like a smart ass with the screenshots before just from what i got from the OP the player had already 3 goals lol. With that said, although i never noticed, the managers should indeed have the option to choose which player takes the penalty, or at least it should stick to whom the manager chose to do the penalty kicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Sadly, i have Gotta say it, how did you know your main taker would have scored? I do agree, I wouldn't like it defaulting to a player, a hatrick is only a description of 3 goals. I try never to put individuals above the team and frequently sub players who have two goals if I have or need to. Its never caused me any problems... yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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