Brobs17 Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 The only difference is the two centre midfielders are set to make 'forward runs' often instead of what they are currently set to. And yes the corner routine is different Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneijder13 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 if you play with wingers, how big is your pitch size? As the wingers cut inside, I kept the minimum size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whizzkid Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 if you have good wingers, is best to retrain them as forwards or central midfielders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneijder13 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 The side forwards sometimes move to wide positions, so... in my opinion you should retrain them as forwards. I bought Shaqiri (inadapted as forward), started to train and play him in the right striker position and the results were great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kicker Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 @Brobs17 : Which version works the best for 12.04 patch ? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixta79 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I moved to this tactic after having steady success with houghs, I have to say brobs you have nailed it!! I can't fault this tactic in anyway, I'm just hoping SI don't release another patch!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedishchef_uk Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Who are you playing with Wixta? Anyone try a lower league team with any success? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasanowa Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 my first season with Cesena, really amazing results : http://imageshack.us/f/855/20120203150216.png/ http://imageshack.us/f/221/20120203150415hr.png/ http://imageshack.us/f/846/20120203150346.png/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixta79 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Who are you playing with Wixta? Anyone try a lower league team with any success? playing with a millwall team 2016, pretty good squad but no galacticos! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobs17 Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 Thank you guys :-). Yep I feel I have read the ME really well on this patch and this is as good as I can get a tactic to be. Enjoy! And kicker I have no idea my game has updated to 12.1.1 so I only play on the updated patches! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smgers Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Brobs17, have started using this tactic with Rangers midway through pre-season. Things didn't get off well in my first game against Freiburg when I fell behind in the 20th second! However I ended up winning the match 3-1 and played some great football - which can only get better when the tactic becomes fluid. Just wanted to ask as to why you don't select a certain player as a playmaker/targetman? Does the game automatically pick the best player for each role? Will report back on how my Rangers game goes - should easily win the league and will see how the cups go. More looking forward to building a good young team around this tactic and perhaps in a few years being a force in europe! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 My whole team is getting a LOT of yellow cards. Other than maybe strikers. This also leads to opponents having way more penalty kicks than they should... Also I sometimes have trouble to turn my domination into a win :/ But with proper motivation my team can produce some miracles. Beating Barca twice in a row in Champions League is a good example (I'm PSG). EDIT: In the last 5 games I had 2 penalties against me, 2 red cards and a crapton of yellows. That is too much... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolph11 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I'm really struggling with this tactic. Followed everything in the OP. I have gone for a challenge in the Swedish 2nd Division so my players a re poor, as are the rest of the leagues players. Are you sure not to tweak it at all? I mean, I'm having games where the opposition are having 13 shots at goal and I'm managing 1 shot. It's not even anywhere near close. What could the reason be Brobs? Not fully fluid yet but not far off. 12 games into the season, managed 2 wins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolph11 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=tf65u2nftd0ofcd My most recent game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantha Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 perfect tactic Brobs!!Well done m8..Let me ask u something please?? which trainining do u use? ty again !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooter7th Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 very similar to houghs , rolling back the years tactic (that means not the same before you shout ) i play online and houghs tactic was the only tactic i could get to work , with a few minor tweeks i now also use brobs version too as its narrower and seems to get all three strikers scoring again with brobs i have tweeked a little with both tacs i all ways flick between counter attack and none counter attack also , because its sunday and i have ball all else to do , i have changed both formations too wizard ones , so i can easily change between counter and none both tacs are working well , with the central striker in both scoring loads great work brobs , thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansah Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Brobs tactics seems to be even better than Hough's one. I've tried to confront them with exactly the same teams (from a database i've created with all the best players of the game in the same team) fighting each other Home & Away. Brob's one won everytime. [Edit 1] : It seems that the 4-1-2-2-1 MUFC's tweak from Hough 4-1-2-3 can beat the Brob's one though (but it's a different formation). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Small update of my PSG save. Won the league with 5 games to go. My youngsters approve, first team experience! My middle striker, Kevin Gameiro, is at the moment at over 60 goals scored. He broke every possible record so far: most goals scored in history of PSG, in history of Ligue 1.. he's getting european golden boot second time in a row. I'm planning on playing Doumbia in the middle next season (if I manage to buy him that is), since his attributes are perfect for that role. My CL adventure is a great success so far. In group phase, I got promoted from first place, beating Barcelona twice and Inter once on the way. Trashed Twente in 1/8, then stomped Arsenal in quarter finals. My semi final opponent is Chelsea. Also my reserves got to French Cup final, where I play against one of the worst team in the league.. how did they even get there Other than what I wrote in previous post, this tactic is pretty damn awesome. Oh, and my first 11: GK - Sirigiu (Italy international, new Buffon pretty much) DC - Sakho and Lugano DR - Vrsaljko (did I spell that right? ;D) DL - M'Bengue DM - Kara MC - Huddlestone on left, Dario Conca on right ST - from left to right: Nene, Gameiro, Wilfried Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
odul Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 [Edit 1] : It seems that the 4-1-2-2-1 MUFC's tweak from Hough 4-1-2-3 can beat the Brob's one though (but it's a different formation). Hansah, where is 4-1-2-2-1 MUFC's tweak of Hough tactic 4123? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirtle1705 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Using this on my second season with Newcastle and its been great! So far 25 games played 22 won 3 lost 73 goals scored 15 conceded with 14 clean sheets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Hey brobs, Been following this thread for a while but i haven't had chance to look at the tactic as yet, Just downloaded though so gonna have a look now. I do enjoy your tactics having had a look at them before, They although score bucket loads seem to be very stable at the back and that for me is the Perfect Balance. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayward Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Just want to say that this tactic is working quite well for me so far Playing in Scotland as Aberdeen, who have a pretty poor team tbh, sitting 3 points behind Rangers, February, 1st season. Only signings made have been a left back (Jloyd Samual) and a couple of Keepers at Christmas time. I have found now that my squad have 6 months of proper training behind them the tactic has improved defensively, not really conceding much at the moment. Will report back when season is finished with lots of screenies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansah Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Hansah, where is 4-1-2-2-1 MUFC's tweak of Hough tactic 4123? U can find it on the 5th page of the thread of Mr Hough tactics ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Home you go, Blues Bad news is, I lost in French Cup final against already relegated Lemans FC, which was nothing short of pathetic. Also I beat Real Madrid 3:2 in the CL final (Gameiro hat trick), so at least one Final I didn't mess up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 hi brobs, do you put on very high workload in the preseason? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomekian Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 First tactic I've downloaded and it is incredibly effective and produces good football. I won the treble on my own tactic with Arsenal but this is something else. 3rd Jan season one with Arsenal introduced it after 3 games - played 31, won 31, 113 goals for 17 against, with only reserve signings (ie Jano, Vrsaljko and other youngsters). Chamakh 29 goals and 10 assists in 12 starts and 9 subs appearances, including 14 in 6 in Europe. Van Persie 30 in 21 + 10 assists. Arteta 21 games 19 assists. Best results: 7-1 (H) vs Villa, 8-0 (h) vs Bolton, 8-2 (h) vs Man City, 6-0 (a) Rosenberg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowLittle Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Going to give this tactic a go with Charlton, Brobs do you have any player filters set up for this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prole Art Threat Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Really struggling with this tactic. Just wondering how many goals as a percentage come from corners with it? Because if you took that away this tactic really isn't doing much for me, even against weaker sides. Perhaps it's the team-talks, I don't know, but the football my relatively talented Forest side have been playing has not been good, nor has it been inventive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedges Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 This is so great this tactic!! I have won everything With Villa :-D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobs17 Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Thank you very much. Yep your right for me this tactic works right away for others you may have to persevere! Thanks for all the feedback and I'm glad you guys are enjoying it. Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/Brobs17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psalm91 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I have been playing 3 poacher like strikers in this formation, is that how i should be doing it or would some other combination work even better, like the STL & STR being more creative or complete forwards or stick with the poachers ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bealesy Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Here are my results from the first part of the season. As you can see going very well. The signings I have made are Arismendi and Samaras on loan. Loovens,Swinkels and Stephen Kelly as I didn't think my defence would be strong enough and the striker Quintero. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergiolagartija Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 hello! where would you play cristiano ronaldo in this tactic? central or winger-striker? thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Left Wing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnbob Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 hello! where would you play cristiano ronaldo in this tactic? central or winger-striker? thanks in advance central striker-will score thousands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivank Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 i need some advice, is neymar or alexis sanchez good on FR or someone else would be better? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kroshot Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 brilliant tactic, wilfried scored 5 consecutive hat-tricks for my birmingham side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergiolagartija Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 hello. i´ve played a few saves with real madrid in order to try different tactics (as last devasto or extreme unbeat) but i´ve only won the treble using this tactic (and starting to use it mid-season). i found that as DMC you can play the slow CBs that don´t fit in this tactic, i used albiol frequently and he always got great ratings playing as DMC. the midfield should be hard-working. i used fellaini (new signing) and lass, playing xabi alonso as a sub. khedira also did it well so i supose great passing skills are not needed (unless you´re playing against a very weak team). the "get forward whenever possible" that khedira has as ppm also helped him to score a few. in terms of strikers, i found it helpful to be decent at teamwork and play left-footed on right wing and opposite. i use cristiano ronaldo as left striker, higuaín as central and di maría as right striker. ronaldo and higuaín were the top goalscorers of my team and di maría assisted a lot for them to score, so i think that combination of passing and finishing is a kind of key for the strikers not to miss so many chances. thanks brobs for making this tactic, it´s really awesome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Slow CBs are fine in this tactic, I'm using one with 10 pace and the other with 12 and it's fine. And passing for MCs is needed to feed the ball to the strikers. Just saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergiolagartija Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Slow CBs are fine in this tactic, I'm using one with 10 pace and the other with 12 and it's fine. And passing for MCs is needed to feed the ball to the strikers. Just saying. i mean, kedhira is 12 passing and it works well. "i supose great passing skills are not needed" means 17 passing and creativity and so. decent passing should work well i think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
regensdorf Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 After trying this tactic, I think last version "Brobs17 4-1-2-3 12.1 (Liverpool, Dec 2013).tac" is more suitable in 12.04. BTW, Brobs can you post "Brobs17 FM12 Flawless Tactic 12.0.4" tactic again? Caused I'm using 12.04 only, many thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanlowe1969 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 hi mate used your tactic with liverpool and in the first season it was incredible only loct 3 games and scored 117 goals winning the premiership however 2nd season for some reason its all gone wrong..........really struggling to score and have lost 3 games already and only played 6 Can you shed any light on why that is....does something in the tactic need tweaking....has anyone else had this problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psalm91 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Hey Nathan, that seems to happen sometimes if you only use the same tactic, you could try swapping to a back up tactic for a few games and then back to this one, i think that will sort it out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Brobs' tactics have always been a little bit hit and miss for me. Has anyone had any success with arsenal using this tactic? Does it regularly create a lot of CCCs and is it high scoring (120+) ? Going to plug this tactic in and see how much joy i can get out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobs17 Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 Brobs' tactics have always been a little bit hit and miss for me. Has anyone had any success with arsenal using this tactic? Does it regularly create a lot of CCCs and is it high scoring (120+) ?Going to plug this tactic in and see how much joy i can get out of it. Jimmy you make me laugh sometimes Lol. Try reading the replys. Iomekian tried it with arsenal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Hey, why do I make you laugh:confused: I did actually read the thread, I don't know how I missed that post. In fairness, I did say I was going to try the tactic regardless, I wasn't just waiting for someone else's opinion to determine whether I tried it or not- give me that much credit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Midway through the third season in PSG. My only transfer: Cavani. I'm dominating the league again, also managed to win my CL group (3:0 2:3 vs Liverpool, 2:2 3:0 vs Leverkusen, and my reserves battered Rosenborg twice, forgot the exact scores). A few things I've noticed, some of which are confirmation of previous discussions. - inverting strikers (feet) will make them cut inside much more often. If you don't invert them, they'll usually play like wingers and cross a lot. This can be good or bad depending on what players you have. - you need a big enough team to cover all the suspensions. You will get A LOT of cards for everyone except gk and strikers. - it's useful to have at least decent Long Shots ability on your MCs. They can and will score some goals that way, when they're not feeding the ball to the strikers. - your mid striker should be a full package. Other than what the OP says, having high heading, jumping and strength will net you goals from corners, and will help overpowering his markers. Someone like Doumbia. Have fun folks, and remember, if your man management is bad, you won't get results! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j3nick Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 This tactic works great for my Bari easy promotion in first season http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/58848279.jpg/ after half season in searia A Uploaded with ImageShack.usincredible for my crappy team Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petyo Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Media Predictions - Second Half Mr, B.R. , nice work! Really enjoy the tactic, and the achievement! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big H Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Brobs, I'm a fan of your tactics and you've come up with another blinder here. I am rotating your tactic with another one. I always rotate as I find staying with one tactic long term never works and I want this one to continue being this good long term :-) I am predominantly using it as an Away tactic and it is definitely the best Away tactic I have found. The middle of the 3 strikers scores heaps and all players seem to get good ratings Thanks for all your efforts!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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