petyo Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Brobs, I'm a fan of your tactics and you've come up with another blinder here. I am rotating your tactic with another one. I always rotate as I find staying with one tactic long term never works and I want this one to continue being this good long term :-) I am predominantly using it as an Away tactic and it is definitely the best Away tactic I have found. The middle of the 3 strikers scores heaps and all players seem to get good ratingsThanks for all your efforts!! Big H, what is the second tactic that you use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedishchef_uk Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I think it was Serek who suggested that depending on the favoured foot of the side striker dictates whether they are more likely to cross or shoot. Apols if this is built in to the tactic (want to finish my season before giving this a proper chance) - but has anyone tried getting the strikers to swap positions within the tactic instructions. I wonder if having them change positions within the game would confure the AI more? I might give it a go when I get to the new season, but wondered if anyone else had tried it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big H Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Big H, what is the second tactic that you use? I've PMed you dude Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedishchef_uk Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Big H - if you wouldn't mind letting me know too. I'm struggling to decide what three tactics to use (or two to make things easier). I'm tempted to have a secondary tactic with wingers - but good wingers don't always make good strikers and vice versa. So I'd be interested to hear what you do. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonn Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Brobs mate your a hero, switching this and vudo chaos is working a charm for me....big thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j3nick Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Incredible tactic in first season easy promotion from Seria B and next win Seria A Uploaded with ImageShack.us My crappy team Uploaded with ImageShack.us My best player I bought him in first season for 80 000 euro my best transfer ever Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibro46 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Brobs17 question: if i have one more attacking and creative mc/amc where to play him mcl or mcr and for 3 strikers stc is the main striker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkelly Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 a question here folks, once my team are comfortable with the tactic do I change match prep back to none? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivank Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 have some question, is it better for STC position to have players like Cavani or players like Aguero? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 The only difference between MCl and MCr is Run With Ball setting. Due to that I play more creative one on the right, but I'm not sure if it makes any difference at all in the long run. And yes STC is definetly the main striker. I'd pick Cavani over Aguero due to aerial ability. Corners are taken on STC's head, so that's free goals. Just an opinion though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psalm91 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 What about the STL and STR ? Should they be poachers or more creative ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Poachers. It's in the OP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bealesy Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Brobs mate your a hero, switching this and vudo chaos is working a charm for me....big thanks! Jonn, How often do you switch between tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivank Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 The only difference between MCl and MCr is Run With Ball setting. Due to that I play more creative one on the right, but I'm not sure if it makes any difference at all in the long run. And yes STC is definetly the main striker.I'd pick Cavani over Aguero due to aerial ability. Corners are taken on STC's head, so that's free goals. Just an opinion though. serek, correct me if i`m wrong, i was reading your previous post were you saying that your STC (Gameiro) was scoring over 60 goals and he is more likely aguero type than cavani? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 That's true. But if you want a comparison, I bought Cavani this season and in january (game-time) he's at over 50 goals already. He's scoring as much as Gameiro from play, and much more than him from corners. So yeah, obviously Aguero will work too, I just feel that a more "complete" forward like Cavani or Doumbia will do a bit better due to aerial ability. If you have more strikers with aerial ability do note that if you play a, for example, a right footed SC as SCr, he'll often cross into the penalty area on SCl's head, so that's something to consider if you can't invert both strikers. I've noticed that my Gameiro has a reasonable crossing stat, so I play him on the right, and Sanogo (great finisher, great aerial ability) on the left. These are just little details but I find that every bit helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivank Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 thanks Serek. I would like to ask you something else. If you look in the opening post at attributes that are important for ST you will see that Brobs didn`t mentioned heading or jumping. Now, if you compare Cavani and Aguero by attributes in the OP you`l see that Aguero is much more suitable for that position. Also, you can always change your corner options and instead STc put one of DC. what you think Brobs? thaks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psalm91 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Poachers. It's in the OP. Thanks, I had been playing 3 poachers from reading the OP but as I watch the games and checked the player instructions, the STL & STR seem to act in a supporting way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivank Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 thanks Serek. I would like to ask you something else. If you look in the opening post at attributes that are important for ST you will see that Brobs didn`t mentioned heading or jumping. Now, if you compare Cavani and Aguero by attributes in the OP you`l see that Aguero is much more suitable for that position. Also, you can always change your corner options and instead STc put one of DC.what you think Brobs? thaks i`m looking to buy one of this two players and they are both expensive so i need your advice, which one to buy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Finished third season. This time with screenshots. First, League 1. It was much harder this time, simply because OM played MUCH better than in first two seasons. I was never truly worried though. Stats. Cavani broke Gameiro's records, and it only took him one season to do so. My reserves also had some success! This s French Cup final btw. I also won Club World Championship but that's a poop achievement as that competition is extremely easy to win. I also got to a final in Champions League, where I played against Barcelona, whom I eliminated in group phase last year. This time I lost 0:1 after extra time and an even game. It was this one match where Cavani forgot how to score goals :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evertonbloke Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Just wanted to say Thanks to Brobs for this amazing tactic. At the end of last season I broke a personal record for most goals when Abel Hernandez scored his 68th of the season (previous best was Cantona at Juventus on CMItalia about 18 years ago getting 67) Currently I am mid way through December and Hernandez is already on 44 AND had a 3 game rest! So think its going to be a new record! I recommend Hernandez and Brobs tactic to anyone, in any league, with any squad! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibro46 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 have anybody try this and mr hough 4-1-2-3 both?? and compare?? id anybody is plees tell us what du you think which one is better! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibro46 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 question: if i play with juve and my striker or winger was: matri, quagliarela, del piero, iaquinta, elia and krasic how to set up 3 striker who to play wher? and another thing: why have dmc arow up and left mc down? wher then i play players like pirlo dmc or mcl? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedges Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 have anybody try this and mr hough 4-1-2-3 both?? and compare?? id anybody is plees tell us what du you think which one is better! This has been stated in a previous post. And Brobs' wins everytime! Brobs one is better and the best one for FM 12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonn Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Hello mate, mainly this one but will change for a game or two once every five or six games, or if this isn't working and i find myself down at the 60ish min mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobs17 Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 Hello i'm not sure as I haven' tried other tactics but I know my one is pretty damn incredible. Hope that helps! And follow me on TWITTER: https://twitter.com/#!/Brobs17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivank Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 i need some advice. im useing brobs tactic and sometimes change to mr houghs. as you all know his tactis is also 4123 with deffensive midefilder. is that good idea or i should try some other tactic, because both are same formation. thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibro46 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Brobs17 where to play players like pirlo, xavi, xabi alonso in dmc position or mcl ( is that position meaning like deep lying playmaker who drop back?)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evertonbloke Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I love this tactic! Further to my earlier post. I just won the Prem with Everton in the 5th season and my top scorer got a total of 93 goals for the season!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big H Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Has anybody tried dropping the middle Striker back to AMC? I guess this would fit better for most people's squads, just wondering if it affects the effectiveness of the tactic. I'll try myself and report back, but would be nice to know if anyboidy has tried? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Middle striker is the key position in this tactic. Don't touch him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legrottaglie33 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 It's a very good tactic. Tried it for some time now, and it works very well. I can see that it is others here that asks the same questions that i am wondering. Could someone post a screenshot, or write wich players they prefer in wich position? What kind of player do you use as a middle striker, wich players do you use as STl and STr? MCl? McR? DM? For example: I was training Argentine for a while, and used Aguero, Higuain and Messi as strikers. Which one should play where? Messi as STc or STr? Do you prefer a more trequartista, deep lying forward in the middle? Or a poacher, good header, fast one in the middle? It would be very nice to get an overview over the preferred XI. Maybe brobs could tell us more detailed about what players he use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Or you could read the topic, as we talked about this already? Come on it's only two pages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legrottaglie33 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Or you could read the topic, as we talked about this already? Come on it's only two pages. I have read the front page. and the player requirements described by brobs is the same for all three strikers. But the player settings is different on the middle striker than the two others. So i guess It's not the same where you put the strikers. Since brobs made this tactic, it should be nice to hear wich players he had in his mind. Should I prefer Messi to be out at the right or in the middle? The same in example Real Madrid - should Ronaldo play in the middle or right/left? When you say the middle striker is the key position (more important than the other strikers) I just want to ask what player you prefer as a middle striker? Tall one? Fast one? Creative one? Maybe a complete forward? But what do you then prefer the two others up front to be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Midway through the third season in PSG. My only transfer: Cavani. I'm dominating the league again, also managed to win my CL group (3:0 2:3 vs Liverpool, 2:2 3:0 vs Leverkusen, and my reserves battered Rosenborg twice, forgot the exact scores). A few things I've noticed, some of which are confirmation of previous discussions.- inverting strikers (feet) will make them cut inside much more often. If you don't invert them, they'll usually play like wingers and cross a lot. This can be good or bad depending on what players you have. - you need a big enough team to cover all the suspensions. You will get A LOT of cards for everyone except gk and strikers. - it's useful to have at least decent Long Shots ability on your MCs. They can and will score some goals that way, when they're not feeding the ball to the strikers. - your mid striker should be a full package. Other than what the OP says, having high heading, jumping and strength will net you goals from corners, and will help overpowering his markers. Someone like Doumbia. Have fun folks, and remember, if your man management is bad, you won't get results! Which is why I said to read the whole thread not just op. Every question you asked was already answered. Posts number 111, 112, 114, 115. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big H Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Middle striker is the key position in this tactic. Don't touch him. OK - thanks mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 At the start of fourth season I moved to OM, because playing with PSG was way too easy at this point. I also did it to test: - how will this tactic work with a weaker team. Despite finishing second last season, OM has WAY weaker team than my PSG. - how will my players adapt to something completely new. OM never played anything close to that formation, so when I took over (it was AFTER pre season mind you), all formations trained were highly ineffectual The game also decided to make things harder for me by giving my best striker, Doumbia, a 3-month injury, and not letting me sign any quality keeper (only Foster agreed). After 10 games, I have 8W 2D 0L, with 35 goals scored and 9 conceded. Loic Remy, who replaced Doumbia after three games as a middle striker, scored 16 goals in 7 matches. The tactic still isn't fully fluid too! And here's a game against my former team (I further strenghtend them before leaving, buying Robben and Wilshere). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Currently 5 out of 6 of my strikers are injured. I kid you not. I'm using some terribad reserve players in my CL games, and the only not injured guy from first team, Jordan Ayew. Obviously a perfect time to play against Barcelona right.. ..oh wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ireland64 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Brobs Hello, I wanted to ask if your tactic is used on a wide field that you think would lose effectiveness your tactics, sorry for my bad English Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedges Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I honestly think if Mr Hough made this tactic everyone would be jizzing in there pants and raving about how good it is. Brobs17 doesn't get the recognition he deserves. The best tactic maker and the best FM 12 tactic so far. Sensational. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivank Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 serek i have some question. first, do you use small pitch size or medium is also good enought? second, do you always use brobs tactic or sometimes you change it? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Any one test it with 12.2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akash777 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Currently 5 out of 6 of my strikers are injured. I kid you not. I'm using some terribad reserve players in my CL games, and the only not injured guy from first team, Jordan Ayew. Obviously a perfect time to play against Barcelona right....oh wait. do you use minimum pitch size?and did you try this tactic on 12.2?how did it go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobs17 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Share Posted March 9, 2012 Is there a 12.2 out now? Damn I have no laptop in a minute to create another for that! I will get on to it as soon as I get my laptop back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_barnes Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Is there a 12.2 out now? Damn I have no laptop in a minute to create another for that! I will get on to it as soon as I get my laptop back Match engine has not been effected as I am using this with 12.2 and in the championship so far in season 1 with Derby I have played 32 won 29 drew 1 lost 2, won the league cup and am in the FA Cup QF SO i wouldn't worry about having to create another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_barnes Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Any one test it with 12.2? Current league table in my first season and this is on 12.2. If anything it is better on this patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 do you use minimum pitch size?and did you try this tactic on 12.2?how did it go? I didn't pay attention to pitch size. Actually I don't think my team gets to choose at all lol. And it seems to work the same on 12.2. @ivank OP clearly states to not tweak at all, so they only wiggle room is with midfielders pretty much. Swapping between more technical and more defensive I mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrar Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Any chance of telling us what player in which positions plays which role, please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladesadviser Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Brobs have used your tactics on 2011 and just finished a 25 year gane with Truro winning the PL 11 times in a row. I wasn't going to buy FM2012 but was finally tempted with the £7.99 offer on steam last week. I am about to start a game so will try this tactic and hopefully have the same success. For someone like me with no time plug and play tactics are ideal!! Just one point from the OP, it says that set peices are in the tactic, is that attacking and defending? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicGAx Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Brobs ... your super tactic has become very ordinary (to put it mildly) after the last patch. I've tried to tweak it several times but there's always the same problem: lack of teamwork, low energy levels, low morale and worst of all, lots of wasted chances (especially 1 on 1). Would be great if you could find the time for a variation of your tactic. Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I'v got good results in patch 12.2 Not as good as in 12.1.1 (???) maybe brobs can tweak it a little bit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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