McMaster#28 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 er, not including Cesc and Fran obviously Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick OGS20 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Lupoli as well iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratinho Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 He was just a charity case to keep goon happy though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted June 19, 2008 Administrators Share Posted June 19, 2008 They went to NEC and asked if they could sign Barazite. NEC told them to gtf, they went to Barazite's Dad and said "oi, let us sign your son, you can have a job in our kitchens" and he said "yeah fine" Not in those exact words, but it happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratinho Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Wenger has offered to touch Kakuta in his special place btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Tell the Chelsea/Camilleri/Helicopter story Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted June 19, 2008 Administrators Share Posted June 19, 2008 We are the masters of kidnap tbf. Frank Arnesen (Chelsea's chief scout and director of youth development) used Abramovich's helicopter to land in our training camp; they plundered him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goon Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Originally posted by Philip Rolfe:We are the masters of kidnap tbf. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Frank Arnesen (Chelsea's chief scout and director of youth development) used Abramovich's helicopter to land in our training camp; they plundered him. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>hah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Originally posted by 'GillesGrimandi_18:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ajw10: Really? Well then ITS HAPPENING. Not really what i was pointing out but nevermind </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I wasn't taking the p*ss out of you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletBirdyN00b Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Predictions 08/09 Where will we finish in the Premiership: 1st How far in the Champions League: Winners How far in the FA Cup: Winners How far in the League Cup: 4th Round How many league games will we lose: 0 Who will be the highest scorer: Adebayor (Who else) Who will make the most assists: Fabregas Which young player will make the most impact: Vela Which player will disappoint the most: Eboue what youd expect How many games will we lose despite dominating: 0 When will Rosicky make his one and only start next season: 10th game in Will Eboue learn how to play football: Nope neither will Senderos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesc Fabregas the Phenom Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Bullet either really optimistic or wants to steal the jinxing crown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Senderos hate is rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexeilh Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Originally posted by ajw10:Senderos hate is <STRIKE>rubbish</STRIKE> entirely justified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_b Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 Originally posted by alexeilh:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ajw10: Senderos hate is <STRIKE>rubbish</STRIKE> entirely <STRIKE>justified.</STRIKE> wrong </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicGooner Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Predictions 08/09 Where will we finish in the Premiership: 2nd How far in the Champions League: Semi's How far in the FA Cup: Winners How far in the League Cup: Winners How many league games will we lose: 2 Who will be the highest scorer: Van Persie Who will make the most assists: Fabregas Which young player will make the most impact: Vela Which player will disappoint the most: Diaby How many games will we lose despite dominating: 5 When will Rosicky make his one and only start next season: some time in October Will Eboue learn how to play football: No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted June 19, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted June 19, 2008 Originally posted by ajw10:Senderos hate is rubbish. Quite, bpifb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesc Fabregas the Phenom Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Arsenal have been refused a bid for Portuguesa de Desportos star Diogo according to the Brazilian directors.The Gunners are not the only ones to have shown their interest in the 21-year-old striker, with Bwin Liga clubs Benfica and Sporting also keen on the South American. Diogo Luis Santo is one of the most promising Brazilian talents, and the attacker is under contract until 2010 with his domestic club. His buy-out clause is set at £16 million and his director claims he has refused to transfer his star to Arsenal as their bid was far short of their demands. The Brazilian will play the next Olympics in China and will look to impress eventual suitors. “We have already refused an offer from Arsenal because it was too low,†Portuguesa sporting director Andre Heleno told Correio Manha. “Until now, the biggest offer made to us came from Italy, with €12 million (£9 million). “We will only start to think of selling him from €15 million (£12 million). “Benfica have approached him via representatives that intend to bring him to Portugal, but there has not been any proposition yet. “We have previously been contacted by Sporting but an offer was not made." Reckon we should start paying IOUs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 9-8 games a plenty next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiz Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 some bbc stories: Arsenal could attempt to sign Russia's Andrei Arshavin as a replacement for Emmanuel Adebayor, should the Togo striker move to Barcelona or AC Milan. (Daily Telegraph) Arsenal are back in the hunt for Newcastle striker Obafemi Martins but are refusing to pay the £15m asking price. (The Sun) Arsenal left back Gael Clichy is the latest Gunners player that could leave the Emirates Stadium this summer, with Roma leading the chase. (The Sun) Rubbish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
\'GillesGrimandi_18 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Originally posted by mikiz:some bbc stories: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Arsenal could attempt to sign Russia's Andrei Arshavin as a replacement for Emmanuel Adebayor, should the Togo striker move to Barcelona or AC Milan. (Daily Telegraph) Arsenal are back in the hunt for Newcastle striker Obafemi Martins but are refusing to pay the £15m asking price. (The Sun) Arsenal left back Gael Clichy is the latest Gunners player that could leave the Emirates Stadium this summer, with Roma leading the chase. (The Sun) Rubbish </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I hope the Martins rumour is about as true as the clichy one tbh. Come on Arshavin though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LycanGav Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Roma buying Clichy one day after landing Riise. Obviously Clichy is miles better, but what a vote of confidence that would be for Riise if the story was true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesc Fabregas the Phenom Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Arsenal are reported to be in advanced talks with American billionaire Stan Kroenke about a deal to put him in control at the club.Kroenke, who owns a 12 per cent stake at the Emirates, has been offered a place on the club's board and will be given first refusal on a majority of the club's shares for the next four years. However, the Independent claims Kroenke will not own a controlling stake in the club just yet, with the likes of Danny Fiszman and Lady Nina Bracewell-Smith keen to hold on to their shares a bit longer. What it does mean, though, is that Kroenke will be placed in pole position to buy those shares when they become available. The majority shareholder at Arsenal is Alisher Usmanov, who owns a 24.9 per cent stake through Red & White Holdings, but the club's board are thought to be far more supportive of a Kroneke takeover than one led by Usmanov. This is in no small part due to Kroenke's burgeoning relationship with Arsenal Supporters' Trust (AST), and his successful background in sport. The American owns or controls teams in the NBA, NFL and NHL, as well as MLS side Colorado Rapids. Plus, and this will be music to the ears of Arsenal supporters, he has never sold a share of any team he has invested in and is known to spend heavily on stadiums and youth facilities. Reports claim that when Kroenke becomes a director on the Arsenal board he will become party to the lock-down agreement put in place by the likes of Fiszman, Lady Bracewell-Smith and chairman Peter Hill-Wood. This will in turn give him first option on buying the 45 per cent worth of "lock down" shares. An insider is quoted as saying: "Stan's seat on the board is weeks away, it's just a case of dotting the i's and crossing the t's." Stan Kroenke is in advanced talks with Arsenal's hierarchy about a deal to put him in pole position to take control. The American billionaire, who owns 12 per cent of the shares, will take a place on the club's board within weeks. Crucially, he will also be given first refusal on a majority of the club's shares for the next four years. Kroenke will not own a controlling stake in Arsenal just yet. The "friends and family" group of core directors, headed by Danny Fiszman (24.1 per cent owner) and Lady Nina Bracewell-Smith (15.9 per cent) have shown no appetite to sell, immediately at least. But the deal will put Kroenke in the box seat to buy control later, raising the chances that he will follow in the footsteps of his fellow American Premier League club owners the Glazers (Manchester United), Tom Hicks and George Gillett (Liverpool) and Randy Lerner (Aston Villa). The Independent can reveal that Arsenal first tried to persuade Kroenke to accept a seat on the board last autumn, hoping to announce it at their October AGM. The board wanted to send a strong message to the Uzbek predator, Alisher Usmanov, that, given a choice of billionaire investors, they preferred Kroenke to Usmanov. But Kroenke was in no rush, understandably given that Arsenal's chairman, Peter Hill-Wood, had at first been so sniffy about Kroenke's initial purchase of 9.9 per cent of the club. As recently as April of last year, Hill-Wood said of Kroenke: "Call me old-fashioned, but we don't need his money and we don't want his sort... [Americans] know absolutely sweet FA about our football." Relations between the board and Kroenke have since warmed, in no small part due to the bridge-building work of the influential Arsenal Supporters' Trust, which has the ear of all the major parties. The AST has been in dialogue with Kroenke for more than a year. Kroenke hosted the AST on a trip to Denver earlier this month, and, in recent correspondence, the AST urged him to seize the opportunity of a board role, as long as it is for the benefit of Arsenal. Kroenke has talked privately of his "strong commitment" to football, and to Arsenal, long-term. His track record as a sports patron boosts his credentials. He owns or controls teams in America's NFL, NBA and NHL, as well as owning the MLS's Colorado Rapids. He has never sold a share of any team he has invested in. He has spent heavily on a stadium and youth facilities for the Rapids. He sees huge potential for the Gunners to be marketed worldwide, and appreciates Arsenal's excellent reputation. When Kroenke becomes an Arsenal director he will become party to the privileges of the "lock-down" agreement governing the "friends and family" shares. That will give him first option on buying other "lock-down" shares (the 45 per cent owned by Fiszman and Co) until 2012, as and when they sell. It is highly likely portions of those shares will be sold to Kroenke in that time. Kroenke's place on the board will send a clear message to Usmanov – who owns a fraction under 25 per cent – that the board will do anything to stop Usmanov getting a controlling stake. "Stan's seat on the board is weeks away, it's just a case of dotting the 'i's and crossing the 't's," an insider said. That view is backed by sources on both sides of the Atlantic. The news will be a major blow to the ambitions of the former Arsenal vice-chairman, David Dein, to return to the club. Dein sold Usmanov his shares in the club (almost 15 per cent) last August, hoping to return to Arsenal under an Usmanov regime. But Usmanov has no track record in football and his intentions are unclear. He continues to buy up as many of Arsenal's 62,217 shares as he can. The Independent understands he bought a single share last Friday, four others last Thursday, and seven a week ago on Monday, at prices between £8,500 and £8,800 each. It seems he is desperate to take his stock just above 25 per cent, at which point he would have a "blocking stake". That would not hinder any day-to-day club activity, but could become a nuisance if the board needs more than 75 per cent of votes to implement special resolutions, for example to restructure debt, or issue new shares. Kroenke is attracted by a board role about which he has been informed: "Your experience in property development, sports marketing and TV rights will undoubtedly add value to the board." He will have input on commercial, media and club development matters, and he will also be able to have a say on what kind of executives Arsenal require to replace Dein (who was an excellent "fixer" on all kinds of club business), and Keith Edelman, the recently departed managing director. Arsenal have already appointed City head-hunters to find candidates. Most significantly, Kroenke will accede to the all-important "lock-down" agreement, which means board members can only sell to each other (or family) until 18 April 2009, and must give first refusal on their shares to each other (in effect, to Kroenke) until 18 October 2012. Such a "kingmaker" pact in Kroenke's favour could put Usmanov on a civil war footing: he remains firmly on the outside, despite owning a quarter of the club. Preferably for Arsenal, it might force Usmanov out of the picture. The billionaires with Gunners in their sights Stan Kroenke Name: Stan Kroenke. Nationality: American. Nickname: Silent Stanley. Age: 60. Wealth: $2.1bn (£1.07bn). Made his money Mainly in real estate. Married to Anne Walton, independently wealthy as a Wal-Mart heiress. Owns: 12.38 per cent of Arsenal. Sports ownership pedigree: St Louis Rams (National Football League), Denver Nuggets (National Basketball Association), Colorado Avalanche (National Hockey League), Colorado Rapids (Major League Soccer). Shady past? Absolutely not. Hard to find anyone with a bad word to say about this private family man who has a good record as a sports club owner. Allies at Arsenal: The current board, it would now seem, who view him as a safe, steady investor who won't push too hastily for control. Alisher Usmanov Nationality: Uzbek. Nickname: Hard Man of Russia. Age: 54. Wealth: $5.5bn (£2.8bn) Made his money Mining, metals, lumber, investments. Owns: c24.9 per cent of Arsenal. Sports ownership pedigree: None. But his Metalloinvest firm has a sponsorship deal with Dinamo Moscow (since Feb 2008). Shady past? Says that a six-year jail sentence in the 1980s was because he was a "political prisoner". His London defamation lawyers, Schillings, will deal with any inquiries to the contrary. Allies at Arsenal: "At Arsenal" no longer applies, but David Dein, the ousted former vice-chairman, is his main Arsenal-related advisor. Dein sold Usmanov 14.58 per cent of the club last year, hoping to return to the club in some capacity in anUsmanov buyout. Who owns Arsenal shares? Red & White Holdings (Alisher Usmanov) c.24.9% Danny Fiszman 24.1% Lady Nina Bracewell-Smith 15.9% Stan Kroenke 12.38% Richard Carr 4.375% Other board associates, family and friends 4.7% Peter Hill-Wood 0.804% Lord Harris of Peckham 0.085% Ken Friar 0.076% Sir Chips Keswick 0.064% Keith Edelman 0.040% Remainder of shares (split between 1,400 individuals) 12.57% I'd have no beef with Kroneke running the club, owning it is another matter, where I'd rather him than Jabba though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Olly Kenney Posted June 20, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted June 20, 2008 Clichy signed a new contract at the end of the season ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesc Fabregas the Phenom Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 As did Ade, makes no difference does it. He probably wants more money too. Tbh, Clichy probably deserves it. Nasri is here having a medical apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowlyDownward Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Roma signed Riise so they won't be looking for a new LB now, despite Riise mostly being gash. Did Asmo finally get around to posting the awards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Olly Kenney Posted June 20, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted June 20, 2008 Did he **** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Jack Wilshere just added me on Facebook Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted June 20, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted June 20, 2008 Originally posted by ajw10:Jack Wilshere just added me on Facebook What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goon Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Shambles compared to my awards last year. Kroenke >>>>>>>>>> Usmanov Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Originally posted by EdL:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ajw10: Jack Wilshere just added me on Facebook What? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Seriously, I have no idea why, although I did join some fan club of his a few months back. Just had a look at his friends, Nordveit, Bartley, Hoyte etc. Fran must be so jealous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesc Fabregas the Phenom Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Hahahah, brilliant AJ. Keep us posted of any happenings in the world of Wilshire. Post on his wall, tell him he's fffffb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I just told him he is the King There's a picture on here that Fran would love, I'll try to upload it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I'm crying here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 If Fran M added you that may push me over the top Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohan Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 You could just try to add him yourself Fran. Am kinda tempted to do that myself actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 You could just try to add him yourself Fran. I'm really not that obsessed ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Something to cheer Fran up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesc Fabregas the Phenom Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Originally posted by ajw10:Something to cheer Fran up Premier League Champions 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arseneknows Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Originally posted by PaulHartman71:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by The Pain: We should swap Adebayor for Eto'o. If Ade wants to leave. I doubt even arseneknows or myself could have been that stupid </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Well arseneknows woulden't be anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiverpoolSimplyTheBest Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I just told him he is the King congrats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arseneknows Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Originally posted by josh_b:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by alexeilh: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ajw10: Senderos <STRIKE>hate</STRIKE> is <STRIKE>rubbish</STRIKE> entirely <STRIKE>justified.</STRIKE> wrong </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slightly Damp Shrew Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Juventus also fancy themselves a bit of the GALE. Former Chelsea boss Claudio Ranieri, now in charge at Juventus, is another to reveal his admiration for Clichy."Having worked in England with Chelsea, I know the Premier League players very well and have to admit that Gael Clichy is one of the most impressive players right now. "He is an important player, above all, because of his versatility. "I believe he can play anywhere down the left and across the defence too . He could come to Juventus." No he can't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratinho Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Claudio :*) Clichy at CB would be interesting tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goon Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 The thought of Clichy at cb Anyway fo Claudio. Also Ade lovers will be delighted to hear Marca claim that we've agreed a 27m euro deal for Ade to Barcelona, but we'll wont announce it until we've signed a replacement. Its Marca so its probably rubbish.. although I'd be more confident if they were talking about him moving to real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratinho Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 € would explain the prices banded about. Thought he was going to Milan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slightly Damp Shrew Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 £21mill? Not worth it. We'd only have £5mill left after signing Darren Bent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arseneknows Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Originally posted by Slightly Damp Shrew:£21mill? Not worth it. We'd only have £5mill left after signing Darren Bent. Thats still nearly enough to sign a Steve Sidwell!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goon Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I think we should sell him for 15m tops otherwise nelly will come in here and say this transfer doesnt count towards our net spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yovan Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Adebayor will be a bust and we will pay you €30m for Bendtner next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesc Fabregas the Phenom Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Ok so lets go with Ade not signing his new 80k contract here. Who do we get in to replace him? Gomis I don't rate, although he still has the dreads, so that has to be a good omen. I like Martins but not at anything more than £10m. I'd only be happy with a Villa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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