Corner Routine "Cheat" Discussion **WARNING: SPOILER**

[kingmike666]

He doesn't have to be world class. Litmanen is a good example.

It helps if they have high first touch, high long shots, good dribbling and maybe "shoots with power" and/or "tries first time shots". Regardless, a lot will be closed down.

So basically, Robin Van Persie is as good as cheating with this one? Not tried it before, but tempted to see how many RvP could get with this, just for amusement value.

[Nevrin]

What kind of corner setting could be classified as corner routine "cheat"?

I have:

1 player challenge the goalkeeper.

1 player attack near post.

1 player attack far post.

1 player attack from deep.

1 player offer short option.

1 player lurk outside area.

3 players stay back.

And corner aim is set to "mixed".

I get 14 goals in 28 matcehes.

Is this one of them?

[smallclone]

Thanks, heathxxx.

First, we need the tactic. This gives me the most hilarious results: http://community.sigames.com/showpost.php?p=4914297&postcount=31

Width is the most important thing really. In real-life most corners are won when wingers or full-backs hit the ball off defenders or midfielders out for a corner. Anything that aggressively tries to cross deep with width will be more likely to win lots of corners in general rather than a 4-1-2-1-2, for example.

It only works if you get corners. Like you say.

I don't play with wings, I just used it and lost heavily. without scoring a goal.

[binno]

i have tried it and defoe scored 20 out of ten games.

just make sure that one of ur lurker is the corner taker.

[smallclone]

just make sure that one of ur lurker is the corner taker.

It doesn't work!

Tried it and keep losing.

Just had 7 corners, and didn't score one of them. Bale taking corners and lurking, and Huddlestone the other lurker.

Lost 2 -1 at home to Everton

[SCIAG]

If the opposition bring every man back, it won't work.

[David Johnston]

Rafael van der Vaart is great as the lurker for me. Scored about 50 goals so far this season.

[dagoonerfan]

can someone provide a basic tactics with the cheat on?

[dagoonerfan]

I could provide a screenie if that helps.

[smallclone]

can someone provide a basic tactics with the cheat on?

Its here:

http://community.sigames.com/showpost.php?p=4914297&postcount=31

It doesn't seem to work that ell unless you have wings though.

[JoshehZ]

Is there anyway to stop the edge of box corner exploit?

"Lurk outside area"

"Penalty area"

[Finknottle]

This is my defensive corner set up. FB's mark the posts. Two CD's mark tall players. Best striker and fastest attacker/midfielder, stay forward. Remainder of players [should be four], set to man mark. This seems to work for me. I think that if you leave the defensive corner set up to the in game set up, then that is when the problem arises. If you pause the game just before the opposition takes the corner, you will see the offending opposition player, in the area and unmarked. This is what seemed to happen in my save, at least. Since altering the set up, I have not had many goals scored against me from corners. However, I shall start to physically make checks for the next few matches. Kind regards.

[celebritykiller]

What kind of corner setting could be classified as corner routine "cheat"?

I have:

1 player challenge the goalkeeper.

1 player attack near post.

1 player attack far post.

1 player attack from deep.

1 player offer short option.

1 player lurk outside area.

3 players stay back.

And corner aim is set to "mixed".

I get 14 goals in 28 matcehes.

Is this one of them?

No, that's sesinble balanced routine... with a return you should be proud of!

[tigerhgrrrrrr]

What kind of corner setting could be classified as corner routine "cheat"?

I have:

1 player challenge the goalkeeper.

1 player attack near post.

1 player attack far post.

1 player attack from deep.

1 player offer short option.

1 player lurk outside area.

3 players stay back.

And corner aim is set to "mixed".

I get 14 goals in 28 matcehes.

Is this one of them?

Sounds OK, I will repeat known suggestions here (I forget the OP's name so sorry cannot namecheck him here):

2 player challenge the goalkeeper.

1 player attack near post.

1 player attack far post.

1 player stand on far post.

1 player nr post flick.

2 player lurk outside area.

2 players stay back.

And corner aim is set to "short" - but there is no short option so the taker decides on delivery (it works better than "mixed").

It works for me, no cheat though - just regular success rather than overly frequent goalscoring. It "looks" like real football too. Until I dicovered this I had NEVER scored from a corner using the 442's default attacking corner instructions.

[dagoonerfan]

Arshavin is an excellent lurker for me

[The Lambs]

I have just realised I am benefiting from this exploit, indirectly.

I have my corner delivery set to mixed and my attacking corner routine are set to default apart from my two full backs who are on back.

One of my two central midfielders keeps finding him self standing unmarked at the edge of the box and he can slam the ball home.

This happens almost every other game, luckily, most of his shots are blocked.

I have scored all 4 of my corners from this route, which is a poor return in 18 games, but still puts me wondering if I should change my routine to avoid it.

[Bojan11]

Carrick closing down Olic like he was in wheelchair knocked Man Utd out.

hahahahaha and yeah lui van gaal has been rolling back the years and nuckling down on some hard FM'ING, great corner exploit from Bayern!

[LFC Rule]

Does the AI figure out how to stop the corner bug? I used it for 3 seasons. First season my MR scored 100 goals next season around 60 next around 30.

[Daffie]

I have just realised I am benefiting from this exploit, indirectly.

I have my corner delivery set to mixed and my attacking corner routine are set to default apart from my two full backs who are on back.

One of my two central midfielders keeps finding him self standing unmarked at the edge of the box and he can slam the ball home.

This happens almost every other game, luckily, most of his shots are blocked.

I have scored all 4 of my corners from this route, which is a poor return in 18 games, but still puts me wondering if I should change my routine to avoid it.

Got the exact same thing....

[Fabio MVP]

Does the AI figure out how to stop the corner bug? I used it for 3 seasons. First season my MR scored 100 goals next season around 60 next around 30.

No, AI can't figure out how to stop the exploting.

[AG7]

No, AI can't figure out how to stop the exploting.

It's not a very good AI after all then is it?

[Fabio MVP]

It's not a very good AI after all then is it?

This thread just shows it's about time for SI to sort out set-pieces. To make a something like TC, but just for set-pieces. With wizard etc.

[amazin89]

Sounds OK, I will repeat known suggestions here (I forget the OP's name so sorry cannot namecheck him here):

2 player challenge the goalkeeper.

1 player attack near post.

1 player attack far post.

1 player stand on far post.

1 player nr post flick.

2 player lurk outside area.

2 players stay back.

And corner aim is set to "short" - but there is no short option so the taker decides on delivery (it works better than "mixed").

It works for me, no cheat though - just regular success rather than overly frequent goalscoring. It "looks" like real football too. Until I dicovered this I had NEVER scored from a corner using the 442's default attacking corner instructions.

who scores the goals from this setup, is it always the same player?

[Orange Juice]

Despite having two players lurking outside the area, the opposition always has a man onto them and challenges for the ball, leading to a counter-attack. My lurkers have never gotten to the end of a corner due to the marking.

[info0]

@up you're making common mistake. One of your Lurk Outside Players should be corner taker. Then only one player should be outside the box, completely unmarked.

[Zenyatta]

As mentioned all tactics are "exploits" to some degree. No tactic that is used universally for every game or specifically for all home or away games respectively, is doing anything other than exploiting the AI. Yet, we are free to discuss and post these tactics.

[Frank Abbonando]

AI seems to be able to stop it after it happens a few times, but with other people using it in network games, it's impossible to actually defend it yourself. I even set a player to man mark the person outside the box both with his normal marking and defending corners settings but the player doesn't listen and sits in the box.

[Scab]

I read somewhere that setting everyone on man mark for defensive corners stops it in network games. I haven't tried it myself, but probably worth a try?

[bean824]

Can someone please say how this works?

[SCIAG]

Can someone please say how this works?

The AI doesn't always mark players who lurk outside the box at corners, so if you set your corners top go to them, they'll have a free shot.

The set up has already been posted several times.

[bean824]

The AI doesn't always mark players who lurk outside the box at corners, so if you set your corners top go to them, they'll have a free shot.

The set up has already been posted several times.

Oh, sorry, seen it now. I've set it up and everything, and while I do seem to be getting more headers/shots on target from the corners, I've not scored!

Also, I've set my corner takers to take corners 'short' but they continue punting it into the box! Does anyone know why this is?

[SCIAG]

Oh, sorry, seen it now. I've set it up and everything, and while I do seem to be getting more headers/shots on target from the corners, I've not scored!

Also, I've set my corner takers to take corners 'short' but they continue punting it into the box! Does anyone know why this is?

Because there isn't a short option?

[Nicozz]

lol my friend uses this all the time, sleazy get:mad: he told me he made it up, he sacores all the time against me using this, is there anyway to defend against it

[dagoonerfan]

Is there a decent routine?

[ubermenschen]

Only for me the corner bug doesn't work? I run Mac w. patch .3

[Jesseh]

Tryied this routine with Liverpool, won 7-1 away Man City, somehow I get really big scores against bigger teams.

Now I'm on a 30 straight wins

but it doesn't works when on holiday

I'm using mr hough and JP modified tactic, it's a solid tactic but the corners are almost half of my goals, so this is indeed a cheat and cause my team to win titles when it shouldn't

[dagoonerfan]

Has this thread still been stickyed?

[SCIAG]

Has this thread still been stickyed?

Yes, which is why it says "sticky" next to the title in the main forum.

[C. S.]

IMO there seems to be something fundamentally wrong with corners in this version.

I use the following setup (because some time ago I watched some "expert" on TV advocating something like this):

- corners set to far post

- two tall guys at far post (one standing, one attacking)

- one guy challenging gk

- one guy attacks near post

- one lurks

- rest default

Now what happens is that almost every time my tall players at the far post get the header in. While the majority of headers miss the target, I score rather often from this (like once in two or three games). It's annoying however to see that each ball reaches my players, who inevitably win their headers.

I came to these forums to see if this is an issue, and to my dismay it seems that whatever I choose for corners may be actually an exploit. I'm not going to intentionally set up a poor routine, especially since I have some rather tall players who are expected to do well there anyway, but it's nevertheless irritating.

[rastaman219]

I gotta admit, I find this interesting.

Whilst I can't consistently get it to work (I always chop and change). It's crazy when it does work, to a almost comical level.

[SCIAG]

<snip>

That isn't an exploit, don't worry

[cragswfc]

http://ro.netlog.com/Pamphee/blog/

[[sSn]]

I have a question. Is there a narrow width formation exploit in FM 10? For example the 433 formation where you get to score ridiculous amount of goals? And if so which patch had it? Is it from the beginning patch itself?

[SCIAG]

;5561989']I have a question. Is there a narrow width formation exploit in FM 10? For example the 433 formation where you get to score ridiculous amount of goals? And if so which patch had it? Is it from the beginning patch itself?

It has been argued that narrow formations were too successful on early patches.

[cragswfc]

who say's its not real life

YouTube- Paul Scholes Volley vs Bradford

3 Real life corner's

[[sSn]]

It has been argued that narrow formations were too successful on early patches.

u mean all the early ones?

10.0, 10.1 and 10.2?

[[sSn]]

It has been argued that narrow formations were too successful on early patches.

u mean all the early ones?

10.0, 10.1 and 10.2?

does 10.3 have the same problem?

[mr aok]

redmark has spoken.

[dds381@gmail.com]

So I am new to all the tactic settings and I don't understand how to set this all up...I actually don't even see how where all this is. Do you have to convert to the classic settings first or something or what am I not doing or seeing?

[celebritykiller]

http://ro.netlog.com/Pamphee/blog/

I really like this setup