bihdhdhdhbd Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 In my version gaga i had on loan for a year but he could not knock Sardo off that DMC spot the guy is rated 5 stars from me ass man feedback and i strigly suggest anybody playing this tactic. btw thanks mr hough for this tactic takes a little more time then normal to bed in but when it is man your defence is so much stronger then other versions. btw i just blew 40m on ramsey as smithie MC partner in crime looking pretty sweet atm. ERISON 2 patch 10.2 no oi used Newcastle side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Ownz Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 started a new season with newcastle, P 15 W 14 D 1 L 0, going really well so far just 1 question about the strikers, is it still, left = adv forward, centre = deep lying support and right = poacher? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 in my tottenham team i signed gaga first season to play DM role he was perfect i had modric and palious as my MC this season i have sold Modric for 40 odd million to barca as i wanted more steel in the midfield.The chances will still get created so don't worry about that. to replace modric i signed joao moutinho he is perfect to partner palious in mid with gago in behind. agree playing 3 hard working MCs is the way to go. in my madrid game i don't even play van der vaart against the top teams only the weaker ones. my midfield consists of gago, alonso,diarra,sissoko,annan and defour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 agree playing 3 hard working MCs is the way to go. in my madrid game i don't even play van der vaart against the top teams only the weaker ones.my midfield consists of gago, alonso,diarra,sissoko,annan and defour. well against the weaker teams in your league they are more than likely going to set up defensivly so maybe having a good creative player on the bench if your finding it hard to break teams down bring him on and he might open things abit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 started a new season with newcastle, P 15 W 14 D 1 L 0, going really well so far just 1 question about the strikers, is it still, left = adv forward, centre = deep lying support and right = poacher? it's strange cos the roles aren't there now due to the tactic being in classic mode. left and right striker are your more 'Creative' Players they will open teams run at teams robinho tevez type players. Your middle striker will be your 'out and out striker' like adabayor. I'm just using man city as an example Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatOne Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 where to play dzeko in this tactic? Left Right Centre? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron.e Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 You must play dzeko in the centre. That's what i do anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geol13 Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Possibly drop one of your strikers into the ACM role, Whack time whasting up slow the tempo right down drop the defensive line a few notches take the mentality down to defensive.Just a few things off the top of my head ok, so this is to hold score, what can I do if until 65-70 min. am stuck in a 0-0 or more often in a 1-1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Ownz Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 it's strange cos the roles aren't there now due to the tactic being in classic mode.left and right striker are your more 'Creative' Players they will open teams run at teams robinho tevez type players. Your middle striker will be your 'out and out striker' like adabayor. I'm just using man city as an example ok, cheers for the info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinmatt Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Well Mate, So in V2 dont use the OI? and have 2 creative players in the centre mid if possible?cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 where to play dzeko in this tactic? Left Right Centre? i've just bought him i play him in the center Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 Well Mate, So in V2 dont use the OI? and have 2 creative players in the centre mid if possible?cheers No this is for everyone so read this cos i'm sick of answering this question. this isn't aimed at you kevinmatt it's for everyone to read mate Central Midfield. You want hard working players like cambiaso or mountario players that will run all over the pitch to try and get the ball back they need to be able to pass the ball aswell. Strikers. You have 3 strikers yes, the one on the left and right are your more creative forwards they will create more chances for the team. The middle striker is the one which will score most of the goals you want an natural goalscorer here. this is as simple as i can make it for you to read please don't sak me again about this this isn't aimed at you kevinmatt it's for everyone to read mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinmatt Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Ok Cheers will let you know how its works out mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 Ok Cheers will let you know how its works out mate no worries mate i hope it gies well for you pal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 Half-time stats from my latest game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron.e Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Do you mean defensive central midfield players rather than midfield playmakers. MC's rather than AMC and attributes likes workrate, tackling, passing, stamina and determination. Am i on the right track? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 Do you mean defensive central midfield players rather than midfield playmakers. MC's rather than AMC and attributes likes workrate, tackling, passing, stamina and determination. Am i on the right track? yes mate that is spot on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFeel Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I feel like the MCs should also be able to play the DMC role. I bough 2 of them for this year and its working really good, it might not be 100% but it seems to work very often (just now I realised that on the other version of the tatic v1 and on Complete Dominance, I also used MCs that can play well the DMC position). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverfiress Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Won the season with pool only 4 draws and 4 defeats, only transfers are lukman haruma and cabanas. KUYT is the bomb, 50 games, 27 goals 20 assists. Lost to Barca in semi's oh CL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron.e Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 yes mate that is spot on I knew that was the case so i've changed my midfield and it's done wonders for V2 tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubisch Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 This tactic have now started to work out very well! Getting alot of 3 to 5 goals wins, and conceding only 0-1 goals. And this last game was a record for me, won 7-0 in a League game against Hamilton! Usually those result only show ups in the training games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cini65 Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Fabregas wouldn't really fit into this tactic would he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco77 Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Mr H, Kind of working out for me so far. Been starting a new game in German 2nd division as Aachen. Media Prediction yes 1st...but team really far from getting there. Then free transfer in lots of oldies who have the attributes needed for each position. 1st game: 2-2 2nd game: 3-0 3rd game: 4-0 Cheerrriooo Perhaps I would advice you to update the 1st post too....I also got confused the types of strikers needed!!! Now I just use 2 side strikers with decent passing, teamwork, and other attributes needed. What u have there now is advnaced striker and poacher... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilker136 Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I just downloaded and used ultimo v2 but it is allready converted to basic mode and I can't change philosopy and shouts. How may I switch it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes_Coulam Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Fabregas wouldn't really fit into this tactic would he? I think WorldClass Players fit anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 Fabregas wouldn't really fit into this tactic would he? Fabregas would be perfect have you seen his mental stats and team and work rate. He'd be ideal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron.e Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 What i'm also finding with V2 is that the midfield two actually chip in with goals as well as the strikers, which is good!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
transferking Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Mr H (and everybody else, of course), which positions you think are suiting for Torres / Dzeko / Milevskyi / Pandev? I mean, how can I use this quartet best of all? Also, to cini65, I have Gerrard in MC (as you Fabregas) and no worries at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I also find V1 to be better, and just give me overall better results. I have no idea why, it just happens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron.e Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I think torres= centre dzeko=left milevskyi= right That's just my opionion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 i'd have torres left dzeko middle and pandev right. My reason is that torres and pandev are quite creative and dzeko will score for fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
transferking Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 i'd have torres left dzeko middle and pandev right.My reason is that torres and pandev are quite creative and dzeko will score for fun. "exam" done, Mr Hough, this is actually the best I've also found out so far. But the "problem" is Milevskyi is also best in FCc (almost as good as Dzeko) - so I would like to find the place also for him. That's why asked... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Half-time stats from my latest game which side do you play Jonathan Bottinelli left centre are right centre ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dodgson Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I've gone back to using the other version of the Ultimo - the one before the classic version was released. I started a new game as Spurs as my machine decided to delete my newcastle save... some good signings, 5 games in using the newest Ultimo (classic edition) - 4 draws and 1 loss... at home to Wigan! Gave it a shot but I prefer to tactic creator style tactics, they were implemented for fm2010 so they should be used! :-D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaly Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Quality start with this tactic 1st game with it beat man city at home 5 - 1 i'm liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzy666 Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 work really well with my genoa save, im 1st in serie A, and just look at this result Acquafresca is great btw (middle one). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iocounty Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Currently played 36 games of season 1 with Bradford, secured a play off spot a few games ago. I'm on 96 points, 20 points clear of 2nd placed Notts County. Games 36 Won 31 Drawn 3 Lost 2 GF 109 GA 28 I'm reluctant to change to the new version of the tactic, yet curious... How well will it work with a lower league team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Update on my York save. Our first season in the EPL and it went very well. We had a media prediction of 20th and we somehow managed to finish 7th! that's a place in the europa league next season. I have to say that the Ultimo V2 is the best tactic i have used for FM10. Here is the league table Ad you can see, we ended the season with most goals scored but we had the 3rd worst for conceded but i know it's not the tactics' fault, it's the quality of my defence compared to other established EPL sides. We also managed to reach the FA Cup final but lost 3-2 to Chelsea, we were 2-0 up too . I have been testing Mr Hough's new Shut Up Shop tactic to close out games and it worked well. Usually we would concede 3-5 goals against the big 5 but when i decided to use that tactic from the start we got a 1-1 draw vs Man City (A), 1-1 draw vs Arsenal (H), 0-0 draw vs Chelsea (A), 1-0 win vs Aston Villa (FA Cup Semi) Here is what his shut up shop tactic looks like If your a small team then i think you could use this tactic from the start against the top teams in your league, if not then just use it as a shut up shop tactic when trying to hold a lead. I'll post screenshots of some results i had with Ultimo V2 and the Shut Up Shop tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Update on my York save.Our first season in the EPL and it went very well. We had a media prediction of 20th and we somehow managed to finish 7th! that's a place in the europa league next season. I have to say that the Ultimo V2 is the best tactic i have used for FM10. Here is the league table Ad you can see, we ended the season with most goals scored but we had the 3rd worst for conceded but i know it's not the tactics' fault, it's the quality of my defence compared to other established EPL sides. We also managed to reach the FA Cup final but lost 3-2 to Chelsea, we were 2-0 up too . I have been testing Mr Hough's new Shut Up Shop tactic to close out games and it worked well. Usually we would concede 3-5 goals against the big 5 but when i decided to use that tactic from the start we got a 1-1 draw vs Man City (A), 1-1 draw vs Arsenal (H), 0-0 draw vs Chelsea (A), 1-0 win vs Aston Villa (FA Cup Semi) Here is what his shut up shop tactic looks like If your a small team then i think you could use this tactic from the start against the top teams in your league, if not then just use it as a shut up shop tactic when trying to hold a lead. I'll post screenshots of some results i had with Ultimo V2 and the Shut Up Shop tactic. do you change any mentality's?? if so could you upload it please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iocounty Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Currently played 36 games of season 1 with Bradford, secured a play off spot a few games ago.I'm on 96 points, 20 points clear of 2nd placed Notts County. Games 36 Won 31 Drawn 3 Lost 2 GF 109 GA 28 I'm reluctant to change to the new version of the tactic, yet curious... How well will it work with a lower league team? just won promotion with 9 games to go. i'll give the new version a go now. do i still close down wingers and tight mark strikers/amc's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzy666 Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 where can i get shut up shop tactic? :-P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 do you change any mentality's?? if so could you upload it please Sorry mate but i'll leave Mr Hough to do that as i haven't asked for his permission. It's his tactic and i'm sure he will upload it soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Here is some results i achieved during the season. Spurs had a player sent off but it was late on in the game and didn't affect the result. West Ham had a player sent off in the 1st half but we were dominating them before hand and were already 2-0 up. I'll post more in a minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 The stats from this game obviously weren't as impressive as the others but we were playing Arsenal. I used the Shut Up Shop tactic from the start in this one. As you can see we had a player sent off so that result was good. This one again stat wise wasn't the best but if you look at Chelsea's shots, they had 17 but only 4 were on target, and 0 ccc's. We also had our start striker sent off in the 35th minute of the game so that result with 10 men is impressive. This was using the SUS tactic from the start again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubisch Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 What is that shut up shop tactic you talking about ? :o A defensive tweak I didn't heard of? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Sorry for the amount of pics i'm posting but i just want people to see how good this tactic is. Using the SUS tactic from the start again, we had same shots on target, possession and ccc's Here is my star striker, i bought him for £1.8M from Lyon and look at how well he performed I played him as the Central Striker in the Ultimo V2. He was 2nd top goalscorer in the league behind Tevez who got 33 goals. He was also 2nd in Europe's top Marksman list, behind tevez. Not bad for a Lyon reject who can't even speak English yet and only cost £1.8M eh? This is my last pic i'm putting up, i think i've went a little OTT lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro UK Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Ive had great success so far with V2. Thanks for the tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 What is that shut up shop tactic you talking about ? :o A defensive tweak I didn't heard of? It's a shut up shop version of the Ultimo V2 tactic Mr Hough allowed me to use, i'm sure he will be releasing it over the next few days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makedonikos Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Thanks for this tactic. Works for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzy666 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 my the best results so far, i was really shocked . My defender was sent off in 9 minute and i supposed to be destroyed. Then i changed mentality to def, and set up counter - attacks, also my Amelia (GK) was immense, Cech not , look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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