Mr Hough Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Welcome to the thread of my Final tactic for FM12. First off i wanna give credit to Tactikzzz, I have used a few elements of his tactic and incorporated them into my own. There is a 2 set tactic and 4-1-2-3 and 4-2-1-3. The 4-2-1-3 is primarily used for Teams that play with 1 ST AMC and and Advanced Wingers. The 4-1-2-3 is used for teams who play with 2 ST's and use more formal Formations. This is very important that you change regarding the formation the opposition plays. Now the Key word here is formation. If you are Man Utd and You are Playing Blyth and Bylth set up with 1 ST and and AMC or something like that Play the 4-2-1-3. It's not about opposition its formation that is key. Using this combination has been unreal for me in defence and attack. You main source of goals will come from the Central ST position so make sure you have your best available ST there all the time to maximise goals. Player Requirements. Keeper - Any Decent Keeper will be great. Fullbacks - Heading - Tackling - Positioning - Pace - Marking - Anticipation Optional - Team Work - Work Rate - Strength - Composure - Determination Centre Backs - Heading - Tackling - Positioning - Pace - Marking - Anticipation Optional - Strength - Composure - Determination - Bravery Midfielders - Passing - Work Rate - Team Work - Strength - Determination - Marking - Tackling Optional - Off the ball - Creativity - Stamina - First Touch - Heading LT and ST - Dribbling - Flair - Agility - Technique - Pace - Finishing - Creativity Optional - Crossing - First Touch - Passing - Decisions - Off The Ball - Composure CENTRAL ST - Finishing - Composure - Decisions - First Touch - Off The Ball - Pace - Anticipation Optional - Flair - Passing - Creativity - Determination. Team Talks - Use whichever you feel is working for you, I generally ask my Assistant. Match Prep - I have been using Very High with Attacking Mentality with No defence Errors. If you wanna try something Different then that's up to you. Opposition Instructions - I don't use any at all Training - Use one you have been using, I haven't been using any during the testing of this tactic. Pitch Size - Minimum See you in FM13 peeps. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big H Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Nice work fella - will go and try now :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenty7 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Legend. Been sat waiting for this lol. Cheers Dave, you make it worth playing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKB Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 which tactic for teams that play 433 with wingers (with 3 central or 2 central and 1 dmc) ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze95 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 will it work on normal pitc size? i started the save and i dont want to start a new one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CK ck x Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 which tactic for teams that play 433 with wingers (with 3 central or 2 central and 1 dmc) ? the 4-2-1-3 mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big H Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Looking forward to testing these babies out :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgen Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Thanks for your tactics Dave! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Real behanger Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 When playing against a 4-4-2 the mr and the ml have opposition instruction to show on weaker foot. Is this a mistake? Because you say that you don't use them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoOSTAR Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 When playing against a 4-4-2 the mr and the ml have opposition instruction to show on weaker foot. Is this a mistake? Because you say that you don't use them That's because that setting was used in the 4-1-2-3 "Tactikzzz" made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Real behanger Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 That's because that setting was used in the 4-1-2-3 "Tactikzzz" made. ok clear, I leave it that way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danieladams29 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 all i can say is wow i know im man city had a friendly with mansfield won 12-0 serigo aguero 10 goals amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactikzz Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Welcome to the thread of my Final tactic for FM12.First off i wanna give credit to Tactikzzz, I have used a few elements of his tactic and incorporated them into my own. Dave. Firstly, hi Dave, I must congratulate you on going to my site, stealing my work that took me a long time to do, grabbing my tactics, and renaming them. That takes class, real class. Nobody could have done it better. So congratulations for that. Your plagiarizing skills have been perfected. I won't say much more here as I have something else lined up that will fit the bill quite nicely. All I will do is post screenshots as proof and ask Cleon to do the dirty work. Thanks. Please stay tuned for part two, where I outline all the other positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braumiller Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Edited, as my question becomes redundant (and obvious) due to the post above posted at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marky-mark Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 First game with new tactic. I'm Southampton in my first season and i was playing in the league cup final (easy draws against lower league teams) and i beat Fulham 4-3 with Billy Sharp getting 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deego619 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Thanks for the tactic Tactikzz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big H Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Firstly, hi Dave, I must congratulate you on going to my site, stealing my work that took me a long time to do, grabbing my tactics, and renaming them. That takes class, real class. Nobody could have done it better. So congratulations for that. Your plagiarizing skills have been perfected.I won't say much more here as I have something else lined up that will fit the bill quite nicely. All I will do is post screenshots as proof and ask Cleon to do the dirty work. Thanks. Please stay tuned for part two, where I outline all the other positions. I feel like I did when I found out that Milli Vanilli were actually miming - lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marky-mark Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I feel like I did when I found out that Milli Vanilli were actually miming - lol They were miming :S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braumiller Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Thanks for the tactic Tactikzz. 100% agree This (OP) feels like a washed up reality star still trying to chase down fame at any cost.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big H Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 They were miming :S Yep sorry mate - I should've put that as a spolier - haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danieladams29 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 again big score against vasco won 9-1 aguero gets 7 goals and 2 disallowed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danieladams29 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 aguero 6 games 26 goals pre season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltjon Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 post friendly match = lost time. ...and you are city!!! U____U" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactikzz Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Roll up folks, here comes part two of the name and shame game. Are you ready, place your bets now! Let the games begin! First off, I must say thanks to Hough for saying the following: "First off i wanna give credit to Tactikzzz, I have used a few elements of his tactic and incorporated them into my own." You mentioned me, but spelt my name wrong. I can forgive you for that. I can't however forgive you for suggesting you only used a "few elements" of my tactic You're not that stupid are you? Come on now Mr Hough, look at the evidence here. A few bits? You should go into comedy. Anyway, onwards we progress! As I'm sure you can all see, he has ripped my tactic and passed it off as his own. Oh dear oh dear, bad times indeed. Let me give you a brief outline of this 'ripper' and inform you on both tactics. His 4-1-2-3 is an EXACT duplicate of mine, except his fullbacks have one less notch mentality and both fullbacks and central midfielders are on man marking (as can be seen from the above images.) His 4-2-1-3 however is still EXACTLY the same, except he now has two players in the defensive midfield slot, on the same defensive midfield settings as I originally set up. Hope this is enough proof for you Cleon. If not, I can add some more proof, but the lad has had enough surely...or has he? One final thing Mr Hough. I have quite a good following on Twitter with some very loyal Tweeps from all parts of the FM community, and as I'm sure you know, I run my own website. This isn't over my little chum. Feel free to pop along to the website any time. There will be a nice public name and shame written especially for you! Your own ten minutes of fame, if you like. Until then, toodles! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycar Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 100% agree This (OP) feels like a washed up reality star still trying to chase down fame at any cost.... This. Pretty low stealing somebodys work and passing it off as your own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrewnaldo Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 You missed out the team instructions, tactikzz. Are they the same too? *goes to check previous Mr Hough threads to see if he's stolen any of my tactics* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F0rzaH Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 You missed out the team instructions, tactikzz. Are they the same too?*goes to check previous Mr Hough threads to see if he's stolen any of my tactics* He only steals successful tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunwwfc Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I only ever think Mr Hough released one good tactic, which was back in 2010 for that version. Was a narrow 4-4-2 if I remember correctly, with a DM, two CM and an attacking midfielder. I loved it, but since then none he has done have worked for me and I think he has done tactics since then just out of desperation to replicate the same kind of success and I have to say one thing in his defence however, he doesn't half get pressured into releasing "super tactics" by certain posters and clearly he has gone to another form of sheer desperation in trying to pass another persons tactic off as his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 I did state that i used your tactic, People do it to mine all the time whats the problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jad123 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I think the problem is that you stole/copied it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 You cannot post something like; First off i wanna give credit to Tactikzzz, I have used a few elements of his tactic and incorporated them into my own." And then copy every single thing from his tactic (bar 2 minimal changes). This isn't the first time you've took someones work either and tried to pass it off as your own. You've done it to Minimal_Fuss, the lads over at FM Base and various other sites. You cannot pass peoples work off as your own. Atleast get intouch with the original creator and ask if it's okay. Seriously Tactikzz wouldn't have minded if you had actually asked him before hand and only used elements like you claimed. He'd have been happy to allow you to post and link back to his website, I'm certain of that. I've had this happen to me numerous times over the last few months and it's not a nice feeling. People put a lot of effort and time into writing guides and explaining how tactics work (like Tactikzz did on his website) and it's unfair for other people to try and pass it off as their own. I'm closing this thread now by the request of Tactikzz but if anyone wants to follow up with questions regarding this tactic then please use this link http://fmtacticalnewspaper.fmcrowd.com/fm-grid-system-tactics/ I'm sure you can understand why Tactikzz as took this stance when you see the effort and amount of time it took him to post what he did in the link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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