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  1. I'm looking to make the in-match formation widget larger, since it is not possible to resize the widget like some of the others. I had a go at doing this from "match full window.xml" but it didn't have any effect, so I assume it is set elsewhere too. Any help would be appreciated.
  2. Would love to get involved if it's not too late! Hadn't noticed this thread before, but its a great idea.
  3. thomit's explanation is pretty much it. Go Route One has the same effects as More Direct Passing - extra width, tempo and passing length - but more dramatic. Pump Ball Into The Box encourages players to hit the ball long and into the box.
  4. Had the same issue for a while, but got him in January 2015 for £1.5m! He's not my best CB, but very good and capable backup there and at left-back, and worth £12.25m in September 2015. I found that their asking price fluctuates wildly so get a report every few weeks and you'll probably find that at some point they will want very little AND you can get a permit. Really recommend him if you can get him for a similar sort of price as me.
  5. Very good point. You're dead right about the strikers spreading wide - I can't believe I forgot to implement that. The AMC pushes on to become a third forward, and the MCs push up with them. I can't think of many systems that get so many men in good areas to press: ST+ST+AMC+MC+MC+WB+WB = 7 players aggressively coming at you is pretty impressive. The 4-3-3 by comparison has 5/6. I will give the marking a go and see how it goes. Interesting point about the transition too! My complaints about narrowness in attack should be helped by having them out wide in the defensive phase and then making runs. Cheers. Edit: @blackdevil: I do have the AF moving into channels, but because Welbeck has been playing there, it can cause a few problems with silly runs. Wish I hadn't sold Chicharito! We'll see how Rooney or RvP do there.
  6. Hi guys, I agree with nearly everything in your set-ups - most roles are the same as mine or close to it, so that makes me feel better! The thing I noticed in both of your set-ups is that you have gone for very split roles in the centre of midfield, whereas I have gone for two DLPs (one on Support, the other on Defend). We have all probably seen that Fletch and Herrera appear to play very different roles, but I interpreted it in FM as more of a double pivot, with both having sort of similar instructions but performing them very differently. I play a gritty player in the Defend position, and a more creative, roaming player in the Support position, and allow the players' individual PPMs and attributes make the difference. With Herrera injured for my last game, I played Carrick as the creative player, with de Jong (who is fantastic in this system, by the way!) next to him in the 'Fletcher role'. The difference was clear, even with such a minor difference in instructions: The fact that Carrick had more freedom to get forward - and certainly, Herrera would've had far more fun here - didn't hamper his ability to drop in and receive the ball from the defence, as shown by his higher number of passes. He simply helped out in more areas. That match was probably the closest I have got to being satisfied with how the system played. It finished 2-1, but had Rooney, RvP and Herrera been fit, we would've been looking at a 5-0 I think. The front three (Welbeck, Henriquez, Kagawa) created five CCCs and 4 HCs, but Kagawa in particular was awful at finishing off one-on-ones. Their goal was a set-piece. If anyone wants to take a look at the match file, let me know. Here's the system I currently have, though it is changing quite regularly. WBs and AMC told to close more, MCs told to play More Direct, DCs told to play Shorter AMC told to Roam and Run Wide with Ball. I'm still toying with the wing-backs, because though WB-S should represent the way United's have been playing, I find they are too hesitant when we have the ball with the AMC, and don't carry the ball enough. I'm going to see how I can get a mix of the two duties, but Attack is good enough at the moment, even if it can see them too high at times. I find giving the MCs more direct passing is quite effective - they look for wing-backs' runs, they are happy to play into the DLF. They are just generally more forward-looking, rather than getting stuck in that loop of CBs and MCs exchanging the ball and going nowhere, before inevitably hoofing out of play. Final thing that I've found effective is setting Closing Down on opposition defenders, at the very least. This adds a bit of urgency to the pressing, whereas before I couldn't really tell that I had Hassle Opponents on. My current problems are: 1. Shaw cannot cross for ****. It's actually so bad I could tear my hair out. Welbeck tends to be ready at the front post but I could easily count the amount of good crosses to him on one hand. 2. The narrowness of the attack can mean that through balls are easily blocked. If it's quick enough and the pass is good, there's no problem, but it happens quite a bit. I don't know whether I want to play wider or add roaming, so that's a bit of a conundrum.
  7. 1) I agree. They always circulate it between themselves - LCB to CB to RCB and back if they need to - until they can find a good pass to a central midfielder or wing back. This lateral passing is one of van Gaal's key principles for finding an opening. 2) Yep - I'm tempted to set more direct passing for players in advanced positions, such is the difference between the defenders and the rest of the players. Perhaps neutral passing for the team and then set at an individual level would work best. It's quite an interesting split, and I can't recall seeing such a difference in any other modern team. 3) Haven't noticed this particularly; it could've been Real's formation or possibly because there were very attacking players playing in these positions yesterday. The likes of Young, Valencia, Lingard etc are not good for much at wing back if they weren't put on the ball. 4) In the second half in particular, it was clear that the players were using the halfway line as a reference point: as soon as Real crossed it, they were quickly closed down. I'm not entirely convinced this was by instruction since they tend to press much more enthusiastically at the very start of matches. I think it may have been a combination of the heat and tiredness that made them drop in a little more.
  8. You're absolutely right. It's hard, almost impossible, to work out whether the differences between Fletcher and Herrera are in what they've been asked to do, or in their individual differences. I think I may try two very similar roles there, possibly DLP-S, and see whether they play them differently in FM. I've noticed that it is quite difficult to get them to come deep and pick up the ball from the defence at the same time as one of them bombing forward to provide support to the attack. It's a sort of double pivot, imo.
  9. Thought I could add some things, having been very excited by the change to the system under van Gaal. It's not revolutionary by any stretch, but as I said to Cleon a few days ago, it's probably the most exciting system we've had since 2008 when we had a very fluid 4-3-3 with Tevez, Rooney and Ronaldo in attack. There seems to be a split in this thread between those trying to emulate the United system closely and those trying to incorporate little bits; I am in the first camp. Some things I've noticed: 1) The wing-backs are not Brazilian style gung-ho attacking wing-backs. They tend to sit just ahead of, or in line with the central midfielders when the team is in possession, and definitely do not quickly push up to act as wide forwards. You can see here, that even with plenty of space to push onto the opposition full-back, both Shaw and Young are level with their central midfielders. This is probably: a) to provide passing options to the centre backs and the midfield, rather than being too far forward to be found easily; and b) to provide security on the wings in the event of losing the ball I agree with RTHerringbone that they are not WB-As or CWB-As, at all. These roles get forward very quickly indeed, and leave your back five of CBs and MCs isolated. In the above picture, they would be right up on the Inter full-back, which wouldn't be too bad, but would be slightly riskier and a slightly poorer place to pick up the ball. Not such a big deal since Inter themselves were playing 3-5-2, but against a formation with wingers, a WB-A would be practically stranded and see little of the ball. 2) I don't think either of the strikers are particularly deep. I originally experimented with a False-9-Advanced Forward duo, but I don't think that it was representative of the United system. Both play fairly high on the defender initially, but both seem fairly equally able and willing to drop in and receive the ball from defence. At the moment I haven't found the perfect two roles for the strikers, but I haven't seen any consistent evidence that one side of the attack is meant to drop in with the other going long. This might just be because of the frequent personnel changes. 3) Front three is very very good at pressing together. The two strikers tend to peel wide and the AMC presses with them to make a three. This seems very effective at covering most passing lanes from the back. AP-A doesn't really provide this pressing for me, so I'm going to keep fiddling with it. I think a higher mentality role is probably needed for aggression, but will need some customising to ensure he takes advantage of the hole. 4) When attacking with speed, the front three are expected to interchange fluidly and provide width without waiting for support from the wing-backs. They often go wide to stretch the defence, and this is probably why players like Nani, Young, Zaha etc are all getting a chance to prove themselves up front. Reminiscent of Robben's roaming runs across and around the defence. 5) There is a clear difference between the way United play when they have just won the ball in open play, and when they have won it from a throw-in, goal-kick and so on. As we would expect from any van Gaal team, United try and play extremely quickly, and often directly, in their attacking transition, but are happy to keep the ball and play possession if their opposition is well organised and in shape. I am tempted to give the two central midfielders more direct passing and the defenders and wing backs much shorter, since the midfielders seem to be the ones that play the most pro-actively, but there is no real way of implementing this in FM. I haven't seen every single minute of all the games, so I might be wrong about a couple of things. I think we will all know a hell of a lot more when the season starts; it is really tough to work out the exact system, and roles especially, when there are so many different players playing in these friendlies.
  10. Contributions from the others seem to address everything I thought when I read through. Will be following your future updates - good idea!
  11. @Eastwood make sure you are using Safari - Chrome doesn't allow you to download epub files on iOS. Go to the download page, click iOS and then wait a few seconds. It should show up a screen with a button that says "Open with iBooks". That will save it to your library.
  12. It's hard to tell just from your screenshot but I would imagine with your roles, you will struggle to get the ball to your front three (wingers and ST). They all have attack duties with attacking roles, meaning they will have Often Run From Deep by default. What will happen away from home is you will get pinned back a little more (it's natural that the home side enjoys more of the ball as they have the crowd behind them and will be happier to relax with possession) and your front three will stay forward and make runs. When you win the ball back, your defenders will carry out it, perhaps look for your deep centre midfielders, but then that front free will be trying to penetrate the D-line while the rest of your side is fairly deep in your half. It would be handy to have some highlights from your matches to see whether this theory is true. I am only going off what your roles and instructions are and what I imagine would happen. If it is what's happening, I would consider different solutions to the problem: 1. Playing the percentages by changing to Counter and making sure one of your midfielders carries the ball out to provide fast passes to your wingers. 2. Get more of a defensive contribution from your midfielders so you win the ball higher up the pitch away from home - this will prevent you from being pinned back but of course depends on the quality of your midfielders and the ability of your defenders to anticipate and then deal with balls that get through.
  13. Sorry you feel that way Cleon. I'll email you or something to get your thoughts.
  14. The most obvious thing to look at is whether your player in the hole is actually good enough to fulfil all of your expectations. In a wide diamond, there is a lot of responsibility on him because he is the key creator and if he doesn't perform then the whole thing can come down like a house of cards. Is he creative, is he intelligent, is he technically good? If so then I would have a look at whether you are giving him enough space. If you are playing against a 4-4-2 then it is easy to find him space by ensuring that he doesn't make too many runs and just waits for the ball behind the two opposition CMs but against three man midfields you might find you need to delve a little deeper to exploit any space he can get. I tend to stick to a width+depth rule where I try and provide him with horizontal space (by stretching the midfield with my wingers and full backs) as well as vertical space (by having a midfielder that drops deep and draws out the midfielders or strikers that push the defence back with runs - more on both here). It seems you are stretching the opposition vertically from your post so is the attacking midfielder using it well or is he getting too close to the strikers? Keep an eye on him and see if he's dropping into the space created or if he's pushing on too much. It may well be that he needs to sit more.
  15. This is a quick update to show what we've been up to recently. We have moved to www.pushthemwide.co.uk with a new design and there is now hopefully less in the way of what matters - the articles. We have been pretty busy since the launch of FM13: The comprehensive guide to FM13 training (nearly 5000 words so get a drink ready!) A look at the Hold Up Ball instruction and potential uses Youth Development: plan for the future, not for now A post on Supports Interactive on Defensive Line Probably the biggest thing we've done to date, the Beginners Resource Pack, an assortment of helpful print-outs on all aspects of tactics. Push Them Wide