DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 And you cannot say its my tactics . i change to a more defensive one when im winning . its fixed ! .. as we all know . it happens all the time , really starting to p**s me of . was 3-0 up in another game . obv lost 4-3 . 93rd min winner . ffs ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NepentheZ Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Yea, because 2 late goals have never ever been scored in a game in real life..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 its your tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 if you played it alot you would know what i mean . you cannot win a game , say 5-0 . you have to concede . maybe 3 or 4 nil . Hello championship manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uusinjsh Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Remember what happened in Turkey-Czech rep game. Czechs were 2:0 up in 75th minute, but... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 that was once . not every bloody two weeks or so :@ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan,,, Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Yes! United finally get what they deserve!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
javier_83 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 or the liverpool vs milan championss league final game!! just bad luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 i do play the game a lot yes. you cant say your tactic is perfect, there is a flaw somewhere so it really is your tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 i must admit it rarley happens to me on my arsenal save . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 no its that stupid 4-2-4 formation the ai changes to on about the 70th min Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 that is a tactic used. they dont cheat you wont change yours to counter or or you wouldnt concede its your tactics end of... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nene_Park_Faithfull Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Good one Ryan,,, & its not like Man U*****d havent scored two late goals before isit. Im sure they play untill they equalise at Old Trafford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carradona Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 What did you do to prevent the AI 4-2-4 change? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 you cant ! thats why its fixed !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazza Pee Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 you cant ! thats why its fixed !!! You can't change your tactics no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 he can he just wont and then comes on here to complain about it. its his own fualt really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Wow .. I Hate This Game You know what? I bet Bayern thought exactly the same in 1999! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 and A.C milan in 05....what a game that was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 i did change my tactics when i was 2-0 up . to a more defensive stlye . there new striker got injured . i had a full stregnth defence out . evra neville rio and vidic . maybe they just went to sleep ... FOR 10 MINUITS . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 just going a bit more defensive against the 4-2-4 formation isnt enough. you need to adapt your formation to counter it get more people behind the ball and try to stop their main dangers from supplying the balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schotsmannetje Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Not to mention Milan against Liverpool 3 years ago… I'm guessing Maldini was considering retirement after that game. "I'm getting too old for this ****." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 whos watching the commmunity shield anyway ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 how slow is sol campbell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 hahaha classic love the lethal weapon quote and liverpool were just the better team in the second half. Steven Gerrard! you are a legend! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0x0r Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 The same thing's happening to me. I was 20 points clear with 15 games to go, and now i'm suddenly 8 points clear with 4 to go. Unlike you, however, I know where I went wrong. I wasn't carefull enough with players fitness. I'm not quite sure what I've done wrong, but their legs have given up earlier than last season or the season before, and they ran out of steam. Something to fix in the summer with some intensive training and maybe a squad player or two. The game isn't cheating. You just aren't perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Wow .. This Thread Is Really Off Topic ! To get back on topic, can we see a screenie of the fitness of the players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schotsmannetje Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 yeah same here r0x0r, I missed the League by 2 points 2 years in a row once, because I was too lazy to rotate. Suited me right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyinuk Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 another baby crying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 starting a new game now with arsenal . will post the 1st time the game cheats . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 whats your mum ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0x0r Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Wow. Actually, I WAS just cheated. I finally manage to string a couple of results together with my crippled, tired squad... I'm 2-0 up with 10 minutes to go. this win takes the title. The game sends a message out to the 18 month old daughter, who strolls over and presses the power button. :'( bloody game! edit: Beat United 4-1 this time. Last time round they had a last minute equaliser for 2-2. Maybe I sent the subliminal message, not the game, and thus cheated it. Take that, Irony! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarnet12 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 if you played it alot you would know what i mean . you cannot win a game , say 5-0 . you have to concede . Actually, I find I keep a realistic number of clean sheets, and I play with poorer teams than Manchester United. Also, I don't concede that many towards the end of games. I tend to play a fairly attacking game and don't change my tactics in the closing stages if I'm defending a lead. Of course, sometimes the opposition will score, sometimes I'll get a goal on the break. In short, it's your tactics! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 what tactics are you using then ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deylaaf Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Obviously if you're playing 10-men behind the ball when ahead, they'll be pressing. If your strikers are defending, why would West Brom need more defenders?, They'll just need more attackers right seeing nobody is pressuring 'Em. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 i see what you saying but i happens even when i keep my attacking tactics . its inevitable . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 thats more like it ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
he_man2003 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 sometime i think they need to tweak down a bit the effectivity of AI's 4-2-4...bcs that's quite frustrating when even an on-sheet "much weaker" team could turn the result of the game around .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_272 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Wow. Actually, I WAS just cheated.I'm 2-0 up with 10 minutes to go. this win takes the title. The game sends a message out to the 18 month old daughter, who strolls over and presses the power button. Ha ha, I used to always have things like that with my old pc, the power button stuck out a bit I used to always knock it with my knee and stuff when I moved my chair. Thankfully my new computer has an inverted power button, which has to be held for 5 seconds to switch off. That's irrelevent anyway as I have a different desk now which means there's a big chunk of wood between my knee and my tower... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 To the OP, if you hate the game so much, you wouldn't waste your time posting about it on the forums, you would bin it, and play Fifa Manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 i have fifa manager . but i like an up to date game . http://tfms.wordpress.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkim Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Tough luck, mate. Just keep tweaking your tactics in games like these until you find a balance that works in your favour. I have games like these once in a while and I'm in a league that's not even close to as good as the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ched Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 if you played it alot you would know what i mean . you cannot win a game , say 5-0 . you have to concede . maybe 3 or 4 nil . Hello championship manager The single most rediculous statement in recorded history. If you keep conceding, and other people don't, who do you think is to blame? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSpawn Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 problem is ofc tactics but i found very interesting on how ppl avoid to talk about the 4-2-4 that Ai uses not being realistic at all... that tactic from AI is pretty much as the diablo tactic players used in previous FM... @ Ched last post- i kinda agree with him, doesnt matter how much i try i'll always conceed 1 goal, even if i'm winning 4-0 the AI will get a super counterattack or 1 f my players will screw up, if things like this happening evey game is realistic then i think someone needs to start watching real life football and i ain't me for sure... i never remember watching a game where a team losing 4-0 would even had the will to try to score 1 goal... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 cheers . its hard to explain but i think most of you know what i mean (Y) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ched Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 The 4-2-4 is easily coutered, that's where it differs with the diablo tactic. I personally would prefer the AI to go with 3 up front, as this happens more often IRL, but the 4-2-4 is only an issue for people who can't be bothered changing their tactic for the last 15 mins. (or who haven't yet figured out how to defeat it) As to conceding goals - i've found that attack is by far the best form of defence - putting all of your players behind the ball very rarely works against any half decent team - perhaps this could be considered unrealistic, however try and keep hold of the ball, exploit space left by the AI and you'll win 4 or 5 nil very regularly with utd, arsenal et al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJOEYT Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 diablo ? is that them ultimate tactics ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ched Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 diablo ? is that them ultimate tactics ? It was an old one, the AI couldn't deal with a long Farrowed MC, obviously this has now changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cometdude Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Funny how no one complains about the game being unrealistic when they score two or three goals in the last couple of minutes. Its your tactics, somewhere you have a hole that they ai can exploit by changing to 4 2 4. Keep working at them, I hardly ever see the 4 2 4 now and if they use it I usually end up scoring! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7077 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I've been managing Man. United for three in-game seasons and can hardly recall anything like this happening to me. It seems like you've made the mistake of thinking that going defensive is all you had to do. While it does make sense to take a more cautious approach, don't go too defensive because, especially away from home, it invites them onto you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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