benji!!!!! Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Playing on a network game, played about 20 games between us (2 users) and we've both seen our strikers go from chart topping striker to being utterly useless in front of goal. I'm happy with the rest of the match engine changes but strikers seem to miss so may 1 on 1 chances now it's becoming silly. My mate just lost 1-0 to QPR having had 28 shots on goal with 8 being clea cut, I drew 1-1 with WBA, scoring a 30 yard FK but missing 8 clear cut chances. Yes strikers scored too many goals on 10.1 but it seems to have swung massively in the other direction so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter_uni23 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I have some games like this; the ball is perfect for the striker, but he doesn't strike it or misses very easy chances. There's not much you can do about it durring a match except substitute the player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amer Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Too many shots going over the bar from 6 yards when they should be going in the net. Played over 40 matches already with the new patch. Has anyone noticed the same?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Nope cant say i have people do miss from there did you see benitez miss for birmingham othernite ? who you playing as Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amer Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Nope cant say i have people do miss from there did you see benitez miss for birmingham othernite ? who you playing as Tottenham - defoe, keane, modric This didnt happen in the first patch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko99 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 my strikers miss chance after chance too but thats down to the supergoalies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Pacalypse Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 There are way too many one on one misses .. players like Cardozo and Saviola missing 4 or 5 of those a game IS ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 There are way too many one on one misses .. players like Cardozo and Saviola missing 4 or 5 of those a game IS ridiculous. I agree the 1 on 1's need working on but i think they will be for next patch personally i think keepers are alot better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amer Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I want people playing to notice how many shots go over the bar from 6 yards and report back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I want people playing to notice how many shots go over the bar from 6 yards and report back Well amer im playing in league 1 as leeds im into november nearly and ive not seen it to a point were i think its a problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amer Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Well amer im playing in league 1 as leeds im into november nearly and ive not seen it to a point were i think its a problem play a whole season and then see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackant Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Wow, I must be playing a different game. One on ones drastically improved for me. Hit the woodwork a little more often, admittedly, but nothing like "all the time." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie S Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Benitez missed from 4 yards in real life a couple of nights ago. You get instances of this every weekend if you look throughout the football leagues, it happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amer Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Benitez missed from 4 yards in real life a couple of nights ago. You get instances of this every weekend if you look throughout the football leagues, it happens. since the patch its been happening 2 or 3 times a match Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheer Class Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Liam Ridgewell from one yard out last weekend. It happens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benji!!!!! Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 100% agree with the OP. Started a thread saying exactly the same last night. 26 shots, 8 clear cut and 0 goals. You miss the occassional sitter but I've never seen somebody miss 9 one on ones in 2 matches. One on ones are too frequent, just put a right footer on the left wing and tell him to cut inside and through balls often. Shame nobody can finish them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eprstockholm Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 This does seem to be happening a lot since the new patch. I've played maybe six or seven games since then, and missed about twenty one-on-ones and close-range efforts; players who were normally perfectly happy to stick them away before. It's a noticeable difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokes_83 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Yep that's how they fixed the "strikers scoring too often" problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I love how there is no pleasing people. SI must be so frustrated... Everyone moaned about longshots, and how too many goals are being scored in the last patch. SI sort this out, and now your complaining that you aren't scoring?! Do you want them to release a patch called 10.3.easy.1, where you strikers score every chance given to them and score 60+ a season and win countless trophies! I am having Tommy Smith for god sake score 1 on 1s, and a few inside the box shots on 10.2. Now if he can do it, I am pretty sure that Defoe and co. can! Misses happen in real life, why the hell can't they happen on FM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gate2 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I still scored long shoot, even my SB scored their first every goal by long shoot, after 10.2. But obviously my strikers missed a lot "clear cut chance" now. They convert "clear cut chance" to "goal" at ratio 33:20, in 10games, to me in 10.2. Keeper react well in 10.2. Not too bad so far for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benji!!!!! Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 Tyoldinho: Personally, I never found my top strikers scoring 60 a season, 30 at most. Now, in th CCC I've not scored a one on one in 7 games. It's not superhuman saves, its the striker hitting them straight at the keeper. I've now tried this with Man Utd, Wolves, Reading and Barca, the results are always the same from what I've sen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff PaulC Posted December 17, 2009 SI Staff Share Posted December 17, 2009 We actually worked quite hard on improving player decision making when through on goal. But at the same time we worked hard on improving keepers. We'll assess feedback over the coming weeks and decide if things need tweaking further for 10.3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted December 17, 2009 Administrators Share Posted December 17, 2009 If you have any examples of many examples of bad misses, please post them in the Match Engine Bugs Forum found here - http://community.sigames.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163 Many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko99 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 supergoalies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokes_83 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I would say you have assessed the situation before 10.2. It is really really obvious that strikers and horrible from in tight. Reminds me of the first release of FM 08... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benji!!!!! Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 Neil-Do I need to upload the match file? If so, how do I do this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokes_83 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Tyoldinho, there is a way to please people. Have the right number of long shot goals and the right number of in-tight goals from the forwards. How is that you feel it is OK that to fix the long shot goals and the strikers scoring too much they just shift the problem to a different area? Now we got super goalies and strikers who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from 5 yards away. I swear my best player just missed 5 better than clear cut chances in my last game. He scored twice.....but his misses were laughable. I was seriously laughing when the match was on. I'm not saying he should get 7 goals.....all I am saying is the ME should accurately depit the game of football. Sorry for asking a football sim to sim the game properly. What were we thinking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benji!!!!! Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 Finishing is ok bar one on one chances. Bar that the rest of the ME is a considerable improvement in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted December 17, 2009 Administrators Share Posted December 17, 2009 Neil-Do I need to upload the match file? If so, how do I do this? FTP thread can be found here, you need to save the pkm which can be done inside the game. Let me know how you get on, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aston_martin Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I see everyone talk about strikers missing one-on-one's, in patch 10.2 I've only seen a very small amount of one-on-one misses, mainly by my player who has a "weak" left foot when chances have fallen that side for him. In fact, just kicked off in a matcl, within 18 mins, I have 3 1-on-1's. 3 goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 This is the Pompey game I just played where Tommy Smith got a hatrick, and I got completely outplayed, and the goals where flying in! This is on the 10.2. Wolves vs Portsmouth] 4 CCC, 4 taken and scored. 2 of which being 1 on 1s with T. Smith! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Well it happens in real life so don't go complaining. Lots of chances are wasted in football and this has been added to this game, fair enough I say. The criticism 10.2 is getting is dramatically overrated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benji!!!!! Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 Ok will do Neil. Need my mate to do the PKM's first because the game is saved on his computer. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gate2 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I see everyone talk about strikers missing one-on-one's, in patch 10.2 I've only seen a very small amount of one-on-one misses, mainly by my player who has a "weak" left foot when chances have fallen that side for him. I had very similar result. I play 442. Two of my strikers have similar goal record in 10.1. After patched to 10.2, the two footed one scored as usual, SOT 67%, 1.47goals/every 90mins. The one foot striker SOT at 71% but 0.11goal/ every 90mins !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benji!!!!! Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 Sorry Neill, unable to upload the files. We've gone back to 10.1 on our network game and the save file on which we played on 10.2 has been deleted. Would somebody else mind uploading there PKM's if they've had the same problem as me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Tottenham - defoe, keane, modric This didnt happen in the first patch Keane is more than capable of blazing it from 6 yards, on any patch. JD is also a streaky striker who will score loads then go 8-10 games without anything hitting the target on 10.1. Modric also isn't the greatest finisher on 10.1. So yes it did happen in the 1st patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eprstockholm Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Keane is more than capable of blazing it from 6 yards, on any patch. JD is also a streaky striker who will score loads then go 8-10 games without anything hitting the target on 10.1. Modric also isn't the greatest finisher on 10.1. So yes it did happen in the 1st patch. Not to the same extent, though. I found the one-on-one scoring ratio pretty realistic then; it was the long shots that needed work. Now it seems to have shifted. It's just a question of finding the right balance. Most of us post on threads like this to alert SI to problems with the game, not simply to complain or argue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaza01 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 The other side of the coin is how many one on ones happen in FM compared to real life? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Not to the same extent, though. I found the one-on-one scoring ratio pretty realistic then; it was the long shots that needed work. Now it seems to have shifted. It's just a question of finding the right balance. Most of us post on threads like this to alert SI to problems with the game, not simply to complain or argue. just stating what I found to be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eprstockholm Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Yeah, fair enough. Like I said earlier, there is a noticeable difference now in my game. Whether it's something else that now needs tweaking following the patch, I have no idea - all I know is that before, my forwards and midfielders were putting away good chances at what I considered a more believable rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Striker Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Funnily enough, on 10.1 my strikers were useless but on 10.2 they seem to put away a lot more chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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