Busog-Lusog Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Totalfootballfan said: Hi, Hmm... I just checked it worked fine for me. Hi mate, Are you sure that Destroyer V1 is stronger than Raptor V4 regarding the public beta version? I win more or less all games really easily with Raptor V4. I almost can't imagine that Destroyer V1 will be even more efficiënt! And what are the differences regarding the INDIVIDUAL TRAINING FOCUS of Destroyer V1 vs Raptor V4? Inverted wing backs - Support and Winger - Support? Edited January 17, 2020 by Ninodebest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhall1 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Can you sim Newcastle? Now that would be a real test haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
910.duongtanhiep Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 @Totalfootballfan is Raptors V4 as efficient as conqueror and destroyer in the public beta version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydomo Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 TFF for the pubic beta train as inverted winger still? or train winger support? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinobremnato1 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 07/01/2020 at 17:54, Godlike12 said: @Totalfootballfan Is it still always left footed striker on the right and right footed on the left? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Ninodebest said: Hi mate, Are you sure that Destroyer V1 is stronger than Raptor V4 regarding the public beta version? I win more or less all games really easily with Raptor V4. I almost can't imagine that Destroyer V1 will be even more efficiënt! And what are the differences regarding the INDIVIDUAL TRAINING FOCUS of Destroyer V1 vs Raptor V4? Inverted wing backs - Support and Winger - Support? 3 hours ago, 910.duongtanhiep said: @Totalfootballfan is Raptors V4 as efficient as conqueror and destroyer in the public beta version? Hi mates, I'll be 100% only after it goes "live" but after I played the Public Beta I've got a very strong feeling that Destroyer V1 is better than Raptor V4 for the Public Beta 1 hour ago, Tydomo said: TFF for the pubic beta train as inverted winger still? or train winger support? Individual Training Focus for Destroyer / Conqueror ML/MR Inverted Wingers ( Support ) DL/DR Inverted Wing-Back ( Support ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, martinobremnato1 said: @Totalfootballfan Is it still always left footed striker on the right and right footed on the left? Hi, Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 hours ago, robhall1 said: Can you sim Newcastle? Now that would be a real test haha I can sim but honestly, at the moment I like the public beta ME much more than retail ME and it's hard to force myself to play on the retail ME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busog-Lusog Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 28 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Hi mates, I'll be 100% only after it goes "live" but after I played the Public Beta I've got a very strong feeling that Destroyer V1 is better than Raptor V4 for the Public Beta Individual Training Focus for Destroyer / Conqueror ML/MR Inverted Wingers ( Support ) DL/DR Inverted Wing-Back ( Support ) ML/MR still training focus on inverted wingers, even their role is winger? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Ok so I’m a tad confused about this new beta and do you have to start a new save etc ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ninodebest said: ML/MR still training focus on inverted wingers, even their role is winger? Yes. 5 minutes ago, Scruffer23 said: Ok so I’m a tad confused about this new beta and do you have to start a new save etc ?? You can continue your save on the public beta just fine. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dersturmer Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Public beta works in fmt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busog-Lusog Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) @Totalfootballfan Thanks, maybe nice to add the new individual training focuses to the OP so it's clear for all the 4 tactics. Thanks Edited January 17, 2020 by Ninodebest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dersturmer said: Public beta works in fmt? Sadly, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ninodebest said: @Totalfootballfan Thanks, maybe nice to add the new individual training focuses to the OP so it's clear for all the 4 tactics. Thanks Yes, mate. I've added it already. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhall1 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 tried simming raptor v4 on pc as newcastle and been sacked both times. Am i missing something? granted it was just a test and i didnt sort everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, robhall1 said: tried simming raptor v4 on pc as newcastle and been sacked both times. Am i missing something? granted it was just a test and i didnt sort everything. Mate, I can say that if you test tactics by just plugging them and going "Holiday" then you just waste your time… there's no use of such test at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhall1 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 ahh i see, what would you recommend? or should i just jump in to a save? is V4 better than V1 too, or have you not had enough time to test? sorry for the spam haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VEGETA Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Mate, I can say that if you test tactics by just plugging them and going "Holiday" then you just waste your time… there's no use of such test at all. Why? What are the big differences between simming and watching games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, robhall1 said: ahh i see, what would you recommend? or should i just jump in to a save? is V4 better than V1 too, or have you not had enough time to test? sorry for the spam haha If you want to test tactics by going on "Holiday" then you should care about these things: - you should pick the starting eleven and make sure that this starting is using during the whole tests - the Morale and Conditions of all teams(not just your) should be "frozen" and "locked" during the whole test - injuries and bans should be removed And if you can't achieve such conditions then I suggest not testing tactics by going on "Holiday" because it would be just waste of your time… you'd better play in normal way in that case. I find that V4 is better than V1 otherwise I would not updated the tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, VEGETA said: Why? What are the big differences between simming and watching games? when you "watch" a match or use Instant Result to play it or just "Holidaying" through it then the same ME is used and there should not be any difference but it's also important to understand that when you "sim" a match then you don't control such things as substitutions, yellow cards and you aren't able to use any "time wasting" tactics to protect your lead so this could make a difference, in most cases such difference can be ignored if you properly setup everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busog-Lusog Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: If you want to test tactics by going on "Holiday" then you should care about these things: - you should pick the starting eleven and make sure that this starting is using during the whole tests - the Morale and Conditions of all teams(not just your) should be "frozen" and "locked" during the whole test - injuries and bans should be removed And if you can't achieve such conditions then I suggest not testing tactics by going on "Holiday" because it would be just waste of your time… you'd better play in normal way in that case. I find that V4 is better than V1 otherwise I would not updated the tactic I think he meant Raptor V4 vs Destroyer V1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, Ninodebest said: I think he meant Raptor V4 vs Destroyer V1. Destroyer V1 tactic is for the Public Beta version Raptor V4 tactic is for the Retail Version I'd say they are different tactics for different games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, robhall1 said: ahh i see, what would you recommend? or should i just jump in to a save? is V4 better than V1 too, or have you not had enough time to test? sorry for the spam haha Destroyer V1 and Conqueror V1 tactics are for this: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocogumbo Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Are the filters the same but ML now left foot and MR right foot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, cocogumbo said: Are the filters the same but ML now left foot and MR right foot? Yes, that's correct. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopybee Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Hi all, Forgive my ignorance here, where can I find links to download the latest tactics for the beta? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, loopybee said: Hi all, Forgive my ignorance here, where can I find links to download the latest tactics for the beta? Hi, Go to the 1st post of this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopybee Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: D'oh. Thanks, bit new to this. Hi, Go to the 1st post of this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kireby Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) Jesus, Raptor v4 is so amazing for IR. I lost only 1 game and won another 8 games including games vs top teams and finally won the champhionship Edited January 17, 2020 by kireby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matias9102 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) which is better destroyer or conqueror? Edited January 17, 2020 by matias9102 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, matias9102 said: which is better destroyer or conqueror? Destroyer is more efficient than Conqueror Also, just want to add that those tactics are for the public beta version... don't be confused Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkenberg Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 So still RM left footed and LM right footed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Falkenberg said: So still RM left footed and LM right footed? That info for each tactic can be found at the OP(the 1st post of this thread) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kireby Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: That info for each tactic can be found at the OP(the 1st post of this thread) Buddy, out of interest. Why is it efficient to use right-footed WM player (who isn't cut in). Is it because of corners? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, kireby said: Buddy, out of interest. Why is it efficient to use right-footed WM player (who isn't cut in). Is it because of corners? Why do you that the WMs don't cut inside? If they haven't got such PI activated then it doesn't mean they don't Cut Inside... they behavior depends on many factors and it isn't that simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kireby Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, Totalfootballfan said: Why do you that the WMs don't cut inside? If they haven't got such PI activated then it doesn't mean they don't Cut Inside... they behavior depends on many factors and it isn't that simple. Okay, i give up) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorminator Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Could anyone be so kind to send me the latest updated game files of the beta version because I'm having some issues updating the game... please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Thorminator said: Could anyone be so kind to send me the latest updated game files of the beta version because I'm having some issues updating the game... please? If you want participate in the public beta then here's a guide how to do that - https://community.sigames.com/topic/511298-football-manager-2020-public-beta-including-match-engine-changes-out-now/?tab=comments#comment-12230638 if you are having issue with that then I suggest brining it up on this forum and you'll get help - https://community.sigames.com/forum/738-crashes-technical-issues/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGreen555 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) Everything was going so well with Raptor and then my form fell off a cliff, tried switching up to Predator and its so hit and miss! Help appreciated! Edited January 18, 2020 by MrGreen555 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, MrGreen555 said: Everything was going so well with Raptor and then my form fell off a cliff, tried switching up to Predator and its so hit and miss! Help appreciated! Hi, First of all, I can tell that switching to Predator wasn't a good idea because Predator is less effective than Raptor and if you are on losing streak then changing your tactic could make thing even worse. I can help you only if you could provide me with the game save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGreen555 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 How would I get this to you mate?? Didnt wanna appear to come over blunt, just cant get my head around what's going on! Appreciate any help! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, MrGreen555 said: How would I get this to you mate?? Didnt wanna appear to come over blunt, just cant get my head around what's going on! Appreciate any help! you can upload your save here - http://www.tinyupload.com/ or any file sharing host and then drop me the link in Private Message Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGreen555 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Send a link to you via PM its a google doc link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, MrGreen555 said: Send a link to you via PM its a google doc link Yup, I've got it... Could you check your media prediction before the 1st match of the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGreen555 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I believe it was 13th mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, MrGreen555 said: I believe it was 13th mate Then I don't see anything unusual… because you are siting the 6th place and the season isn't over yet… as I can see you have good chances to finish as high as 4th place and it will be a very good overachieving comparing to your media prediction 13th place. I'd say If you want compete for the title then you need to be at least in the top 4 team by media prediction before the season start. Also, I suggest not changing Raptor no matter what Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, MrGreen555 said: I believe it was 13th mate Also, I want to add if you look at the media prediction screen before the 1st match of the season then you can get a good hint about the strength of your team comparing to other teams in the league because at that moment all teams are order according their average CA ( Current Ability ). As I said I would start think about competing for the title in EPL only if my team was in top 4-5 by CA otherwise you need a lot of luck to win the title… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGreen555 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Ahh spot on mate thank you! I've just bought a better 'keeper as thats where I think the weakness is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, MrGreen555 said: Ahh spot on mate thank you! I've just bought a better 'keeper as thats where I think the weakness is! Here's you team avarage CA... it's about 135 And you must compete for the title with such teams as Liverpool and Man City Their average CA is about 170 The below is Liverpool team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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