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  1. Man City in Real Life vs Man City in FM18 Right now in real life Man City is setting records in English Premier League… Does that come as a big surprise for everyone? I’m completely sure that any football fan even that is being far from a football expert expected something like that from Man City in this season… Why? Because it’s under control of Pep Guardiola that has unlimited amount of money to spend and he is going to re-create his invisible Barcelona. Almost all betting agencies predicted Man City to finish the 1st place this season. Here are Man City’s stats after 19 matches played in the league this season in real life: Matches Played: 19 Points: 55 Goal Scored: 60 Conceded: 12 Goal Difference: +48 Average Possession: 65.9% Now let’s see how Man City under AI management performs in FM18 during the 1st season after 19 matches in the league and compare it with the real life performance. In order to do that I picked the weakest team in the league Huddersfield, set the Assistant to handle the tactic, training and everything else in order not to make any impact on the results and then went On Holiday until 19 matches played in the league. I repeated the testing 5 times in order to have such data sample that can be consider enough decent to be taken into consideration. Game Saves for each test I uploaded on FTP: EPL Test Season ( 1 ).fm EPL Test Season ( 2 ).fm EPL Test Season ( 3 ).fm EPL Test Season ( 4 ).fm EPL Test Season ( 5 ).fm Test - 1 Matches Played: 19 Points: 35 Goal Scored: 35 Conceded: 23 Goal Difference: +12 Average Possession: 52% Test - 2 Matches Played: 19 Points: 32 Goal Scored: 38 Conceded: 26 Goal Difference: +12 Average Possession: 52% Test - 3 Matches Played: 19 Points: 34 Goal Scored: 32 Conceded: 28 Goal Difference: +4 Average Possession: 53% Test - 4 Matches Played: 19 Points: 34 Goal Scored: 33 Conceded: 16 Goal Difference: +17 Average Possession: 53% Test - 5 Matches Played: 19 Points: 37 Goals Scored: 35 Conceded: 16 Goal Difference: +19 Average Possession: 53% As you can see in FM18 Man City produces the results and play that are far away from what we see in in real: [ Real Life ] Goals Difference +48 vs [ FM 18 ] Goal Difference +13 [ Real Life ] Goal Scored 60 vs [ FM 18 ] Goal Difference 34 [ Real Life ] Possession 65,9 % vs [ FM 18 ] Possession 53 % I don’t know how about you guys but for me such difference is too much. I would not mind if Southampton or West Brom show results and play in FM18 that were complete different from what we see in real life but I think the best team in the world such Man City deserve close attention and they should produce play and result that are very close with what we see in real life.
  2. At the current moment I managed to repeat about 5 times the 1st season in German Bundesliga and I can say with complete certainty that this how the league table looks like at the end of the 1st season in average: As you can see at the screenshot above Bayern Munich finished the 3rd place and got only 62 points, scored only 64 goals and got G.D. +26. I’m sure that it’s a well-known fact any person even for those who are far from being a football expect that the last 5 years Bayern Munich has been dominating greatly Bundesliga. The problem isn’t that Bayern Munich didn’t won the league because sometimes it wins the league in the 1st season, the problem is that even when it wins the league the stats that it has at end of the season are completely unrealistic and in general the stats of all teams in the league are completely unrealistic. Here’s how in real life the stats of Bayern Munich looks like after a great season for it. Check the stats and compare it with the FM simulation: Here’s how in real life the stats of Bayern Munich looks like after an average season for it. Check the stats and compare it with the FM simulation: As you can see when Bayern Munich’s having a great season it gets about 90 points, scores about 100 goals and its G.D. is about +80. And when Bayern Munich’s having an average season it still gets about 82 points, scores about 90 goals and its G.D. is about +67. In FM18 Bayern Munich gets about 62-68 points, scores about 65 goals and gets G.D. about +26 in the 1st season and as it can be seen at my screen from the game even Hoffenheim got better stats than Bayern Munich at the end of the 1st. In general in FM18 any team that win German Bundesliga in the first season usually gets no more than 68-70 points and scores no more than 65-70 goals. I don’t know about you guys but for me seeing such big difference in the key stats creates completely unrealistic impression and if you check my first post at this thread then you’ll see that similar situation is observed in all major leagues.
  3. I decided to check how things stand in Seria A so I picked Benevento and quickly finished the 1st season. I uploaded the game save at FTP - Seria A Test.fm Here’s the league table at the end of the season Juventus got only 62 points and finished the 6th place, scored 59 goals and conceeded 39 and didn’t even manage to get Champions League spot for the next season. Napoli got only 59 points and finished the 8th place didn’t even managed to get into Euro Cups the next season, also it scored only 62 goals in the season when in real life it usually scores 80-94 goals in a season. I don’t know about you guys but to me all that looks extremely unrealistic and disappointing because at least during the 1st season in FM I expect to see things happens somehow close to real life. At the same time I was checking Spanish La Liga, I picked Girona there and was sacked just before few weeks the end of the season. Here’s the league table at the end of the season: Barcelona got only 76 points and finished the 3rd place, also, Barcelona scored only 55 goals in the season when in real life it scores 110-120 goals in a season. Real Madrid got 87 only points and such small amount of points was enough to win La Liga , also, Real Madrid scored only 64 goals in the season when in real life Real Madrid usually scores 110-120 goals in a season. Atletico Madrid scored more goals than Barcelona and Real Madrid in the season.
  4. Hi Nic! I would never say that Barcelona Players should score every attack or every counter-attack because saying something like that would be completely stupidity . As I said at the opening post I simulated a counter-attack when only 2xDefenders defend against 6xAttackers, also, it must be noted that 6 attackers are the best players in the game but the result came out quite unrealistic because there were 44 attacks when 6 attackers were attacking only vs 2 Defenders in the 1st half and they only managed to score 5 goals, and that’s about 11,36 % success rate of 2 vs 6 counter-attacks. Let’s me ask you… does the success rate only 11% of 2 vs 6 counter-attacks look as realistic number to you? If 2 vs 6 counter-attacks have only 11% success rate then 2 vs 5, 2 vs 4 and 2 vs 3 should have even smallest success rate. Once more, at the opening post I marked only 2 vs 6 counter-attacks that happened at the 1st half of the match and I counted there were about 44 counter-attacks(2vs6) and only 5 of them ended as goals, which I find quite unrealistic. The analyzes clearly shows that when your team gets a 2 vs 6 counter-attack then its chances to score will be about only 11% and when they get a counter-attack with less advantage something 2 vs 5 or 2 vs 4 or 2 vs 3 then their chances to score will be even less. The simulation that I made above is a simple simulation of a 2 vs 6 counter attack and nothing more than that, it gives clear understanding what you should expect when in your match 2 vs 6 / 2 vs 5 / 2 vs 4 / 2 vs 3 counter-attack happens.
  5. PKM at the FTP - 2 vs 6 Counter-Attack Simulation.pkm Hello guys! I think that players’ intelligence when they make decisions in attack requires improving, I find these following arears at poor state in the Beta: - Passing Decision - Dribbling Decision - Shooting Decisions - Off The Ball Movement Decisions I made a simulation 2 Defenders vs 6 Attackers and that’s just a simulation of a 2 vs 6 counter-attack and the result came out very unrealistic. The setup of the simulation: 2 x Defenders – Sergio Ramos and Nacho 6 x Attackers –Messi, Suarez, Dembele, Iniesta, Rakitic and Busquets Here’s an analysis of the 1st half of the match I counted about 44 attacks(2 vs 6) and only 5 of them ended up as goals. So only about 11% of 2 vs 6 Counter Attacked ends up as goal which is quite unrealistic, especially, when the attacking group consist of the best players in the game. PKM - 2 vs 6 Counter-Attack Simulation.pkm The 1st half - 44 x Attacks(2 vs 6) and only 5 of them ended up as goals 01 : 42 02 : 14 03 : 09 03 : 53 05 : 00 05 : 17 07 : 24 08 : 18 09 : 45 10 : 20 10 : 50 --- GOAL ! 12 : 23 12 : 47 13 : 49 15 : 04 17 : 19 18 : 23 19 : 28 22 : 13 23 : 33 23 : 45 24 : 43 25 : 13 25 : 35 27 : 06 27 : 19 28 : 12 30 : 30 --- GOAL ! 31 : 41 32 : 39 33 : 51 34 : 53 35 : 04 36 : 17 36 : 34 37 : 50 38 : 00 --- GOAL ! 38 : 51 40 : 10 40 : 47 --- GOAL ! 42 : 08 43 : 43 44 : 30 – GOAL ! 45 : 08 47 : 06 48 : 31 At the video below I gathered the worst looking attacking decisions from the PKM
  6. Neil… sure, I checked it… when I went back from “On Holiday” I found myself still managing Huddersfield Girona sacked me but it happened just 3 matches before the end of the season so it won’t have any significant impact on the results. I didn’t post it in the bugs forum because it might be that I’m the only weirdo who considers something like that as an issue so I wanted to hear what other people think about it because if nobody cares about it then there’s no point in raising in the bug forum
  7. Neil, I loaded 2 Leagues: English Premier League and Spanish League BBVA I picked Girona to manage in Spanish League BBVA and I picked Huddersfield to manage in English Premier League then I went “On Holiday” until the end of the season in both leagues I guess in that case the leagues should run in “Full Match Mode”… Am I wrong?
  8. Here's Messi's statistic from the save He made 35 Appearances in LaLiga and scored 13 goals which is about 2-4 times less than his average goals per season in the league in real life Here's Ronaldo's statistic from the save He made 27 Appearances in LaLiga and scored 8 goals which is about 2-4 times less than his average goals per season in the league in real life
  9. Hi guys, First of all, I am not rising this at the Bugs Forum because I see that FM has been like that for many years so it must be one of FM’s concept that hasn’t been changing for long time and I want to hear what you guys think about it. Also, at this post I’ll be pointing at some Team Statistic from FM18 Beta and in order not to be accused in anything I uploaded the game into SI FTP, the file’s name - The 1st Season Simulation.fm Ok, now let’s back to the matter that I’m going to discuss at this topic. I understand that I might be to geeky when it comes to Team Statistics in real life vs Team Statistic in FM and many of you don’t pay any attention to it so I want to hear what you all think about it. Here are some facts that are well known by everyone: 1) In real life Barcelona plays a possession football and Barcelona’s average possession varies 61-65% in matches. 2) In real life Man City under Pep Guardiola plays a possession football and Man City’s average possession varies 61-65% in matches. The high amount of possession in matches is what differs Barcelona and Man City from other teams and what determines the modern football’s face. Btw, you can check the possession statistic of Man City and Barcelona at WhoScored portal: The current season ( 2017/2018 ) The previous season ( 2016/2017 ) In order to find out how well FM18 Beta simulates the way Barcelona and Man City play in real life I picked the weakest teams in English Premier League and Spanish LigaBBVA and quickly finished the 1st season to see the Team Statistic at the end of the season and I must add that what I saw wasn’t much different from what I saw in the previous versions. At the screenshot below you can see Possession Statistic of Barcelona and Man City under AI management at the end of the 1st season in FM18 Beta. As you can see at the screenshots above Barcelona’s average possession is 50.87% during the season and Man City’s average possession is 51.84% at the end of the 1st season in FM18 Beta. I can say that for me it creates very unrealistic impression, especially when I see that such teams as Betis or Malaga have more possession in matches than Barcelona. Another well-known fact that Barcelona and Real Madrid play an attacking football and these teams greatly dominate the domestic league so in real life they usually score about 110 goals in a season and it’s like twice more than other teams in the league. At the screenshot below you can see real life league table LaLiga season 2016/17, Real Madrid scored 106 goals and Barcelona scored 116 goals At the screenshot below you can see LaLiga Table from my FM18 Beta save, Barcelona scored only 69 goals and Real Madrid scored only 63 goals at the end of the 1st season. Seeing that creates very unrealistic for me, especially, when I see that Atletico Madrid scored more than Real Madrid in the season. Here's Messi's statistic from the save He made 35 Appearances in LaLiga and scored 13 goals which is about 2-4 times less than his average goals per season in the league in real life Here's Ronaldo's statistic from the save He made 27 Appearances in LaLiga and scored 8 goals which is about 2-4 times less than his average goals per season in the league in real life Now let's move to SERIA A and check how things stand there in the 1st season. I picked Benevento and quickly finished the 1st season. Here’s the league table at the end of the season Juventus got only 62 points and finished the 6th place, scored 59 goals and conceeded 39 and didn’t even manage to get Champions League spot for the next season. Napoli got only 59 points and finished the 8th place didn’t even managed to get into Euro Cups the next season, also it scored only 62 goals in the season when in real life it usually scores 80-94 goals in a season. I don’t know about you guys but to me all that looks extremely unrealistic and disappointing because at least during the 1st season in FM I expect to see things happens somehow close to real life. Ok, now let’s check how things stand in German Bundesliga At the current moment I managed to repeat about 5 times the 1st season in German Bundesliga and I can say with complete certainty that this how the league table looks like at the end of the 1st season in average: As you can see at the screenshot above Bayern Munich finished the 3rd place and got only 62 points, scored only 64 goals and got G.D. +26. I’m sure that it’s a well-known fact any person even for those who are far from being a football expect that the last 5 years Bayern Munich has been dominating greatly Bundesliga. The problem isn’t that Bayern Munich didn’t won the league because sometimes it wins the league in the 1st season, the problem is that even when it wins the league the stats that it has at end of the season are completely unrealistic and in general the stats of all teams in the league are completely unrealistic. Here’s how in real life the stats of Bayern Munich looks like after a great season for it. Check the stats and compare it with the FM simulation: Here’s how in real life the stats of Bayern Munich looks like after an average season for it. Check the stats and compare it with FM simulation: As you can see when Bayern Munich’s having a great season it gets about 90+ points, scores about 100+ goals and its G.D. is about +80. Even when Bayern Munich’s having an average season it still gets about 82+ points, scores about 90+ goals and its G.D. is about +67. In FM18 Bayern Munich gets about 62-68 points, scores about 65 goals and gets G.D. about 26 in the 1st season and as it can be seen at my screen from the game even Hoffenheim got better stats than Bayern Munich at the end of the 1st. In general in FM18 any team that win German Bundesliga in the first season usually gets no more than 68-70 points and scores no more than 65-70 goals. I don’t know about you guys but for me seeing such big difference in the key stats creates completely unrealistic impression and if you my first post at this thread then you’ll see that similar situation is observed in all major leagues. So I'm curious what you guys think about that… does it bother you or you don’t pay any attention to that difference?
  10. Neil, please… you know me for a long time… I would never done something like that because I understand that something like that would be very unfair to the ME and very misleading. I made the simulation for 45min (the 1st half) and simply cut all other stuff expect the attacks, I didn’t save the PKM of the match because I wasn’t planning to report as a bug or something like that, I made it just for fun. Would you allow me to prove my fairness and would you allow to make more videos like that to post them but all of them will be backed up with PKMs?
  11. Totalfootballfan

    "Mark specific position" not working

    Yup... I've already reported it
  12. Nic, of course, I meant that I tried to mark all opposition's positions one by one I understand that I can set to mark only 1 position at time
  13. Hi guys! I’ve made a simulation when 2 Defenders defend vs 6 Attackers in FM18 Beta. I find that such simulation is a very good representation of AI’s intelligence when it comes to attack and defense The setup: 2 Defenders – Sergio Ramos and Nacho 6 Attackers –Messi, Suarez, Dembele, Iniesta, Rakitic and Busquets Here’s a video of the simulation Enjoy
  14. Totalfootballfan

    Weird AI set-piece

    Hi guys ! I find that in FM18 Beta Free Kicks are at very weird state. How does it look to you? The defending team doesn’t go back to its formation shape after free kicks has been taken, it really looks anecdotal. Also, it doesn’t matter how many players you sent forward during attacking free kicks the AI team always have all players at the back. Watch the video below to see what I’m talking about: It also looks very weird when players cross inside the box even that they were instructed to deliver “Short” and there are no teammates at all inside the box. Watch the video below to see what I’m talking about:
  15. Hello, “Mark Specific Position” instruction doesn’t seem do anything. I wanted to check how this new player instruction works and during a match I asked my striker to mark all existing positions in the opposition’s tactic but it didn’t have any effect on his behavior at the defense. Is it a known issue? How is it suppose to work? Thanks.
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