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Having great success with this tactic - managing Arsenal in 2025 (started with Stockport County, and arrived at Arsenal via Crystal Palace).

 

So far 12 wins in 12 in the league,

 

 

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On 14/12/2018 at 02:02, knap said:

Tested with Lpool in FMT no OIs Training AM

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Hello Knap! 

It seems until so far in my team,that i produce many chances from "throw-ins" tactic. 

I refer to this post,because i use this tactic pretty much.

Particularly,when i take a throw in,almost all opposition players are in far post and i usually have an easy goal.

All i'm asking is: HOW can i break this set piece,if i defend against it?

p.s. : i think its a bug

 

 

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Knap, first thanks for all your great tactics.

Apologizes in advance if already answered this kind of question but:

Which tactics would you recommend for new man utd career save preferably a 4231 (Time or Beowulf?)    and one more defensive (like a 41221 aka 433? or suggesting another one?) and finally who takes corners, still wingback for each side or best set piece taker?

 

cheers

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With MU I would use your preferred attacking formation. Taker will be set as part of routine if not I do not set them.

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14 hours ago, knap said:

Use a tactic earlier than 19.2

19.1.5 for example...BUT

defending set pieces for throw ins are exact the same as in 19.2

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last question and i'll try to be more clear...i really appreciate your time

In that defence structure i want to mark the player who recieve the short long throw.Particularly i want to bring more than one player to mark that throw in. Is there any suggestion?

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Second season at FCPorto, another year in great shape !! Great Knap, in the third season I will try the version without the F9 and use the AF.

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1 hour ago, KoBet said:

last question and i'll try to be more clear...i really appreciate your time

In that defence structure i want to mark the player who recieve the short long throw.Particularly i want to bring more than one player to mark that throw in. Is there any suggestion?

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You can't do anything to defend against it. It is a match engine problem.

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3 minutes ago, kelmi55 said:

You can't do anything to defend against it. It is a match engine problem.

However,it's not happening against all teams. So this is why im digging into that. For sure it's a match engine but there is a counter for this,an option,something...

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5 minutes ago, KoBet said:

However,it's not happening against all teams. So this is why im digging into that. For sure it's a match engine but there is a counter for this,an option,something...

My guess would be that the set-play needs to be played at exact location. If you can't prevent conceding throw in from that dangerous position you are screwed. AI does not use this throw in setup.

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2 minutes ago, knap said:

Is this against AI?

against AI NOT...against other player in a lan-game

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They are using the same long throw set up as the tactic you are using. Never been reported as issue with other online players.

You can try closing down corner in the corner set up, or man mark in throw in set up.

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2 minutes ago, KoBet said:

against AI NOT...against other player in a lan-game

If playing with friends, make an agreement to not to use it at all.

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4 minutes ago, knap said:

They are using the same long throw set up as the tactic you are using. Never been reported as issue with other online players.

You can try closing down corner in the corner set up, or man mark in throw in set up.

i tried "mark man" instruction,but still noone marked that throw in!!! haha

Nevermind...thanks for your time. keep up the good work

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If they are using short corner set up then use the close down

Throw ins I cannot see any way to man mark the free players.

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41 minutes ago, knap said:

If they are using short corner set up then use the close down

Throw ins I cannot see any way to man mark the free players.

We have tried and there is nothing to do against the throw in setup

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Just posted this on the Discord so sorry to anyone who lurks in both zones for having to read my waffle twice - you may have spotted there are one or two Knap tactic threads so you may spot this in one or two others just to spread the love and help prevent people chewing their dogs face off having conceded yet another late goal! :D

"Anyone using Knap's tactics with the later corner routines may want to bear this in mind,  especially so when setting up an SUS as it's far more prevalent later in the game when the AI is going  gung-ho. Been studying more and more how I concede goals - lots are direct free kicks, far too many worldy strikers, but otherwise I get  alot of 2 on 1's, may of which are coming from my own set pieces it turns out;

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My guy misses his header unsurprisingly, ball breaks and notice AI has 3 guys up top against just ONE of my guys - glimmer of hope that maybe it'll be flagged as offside;

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Ruthlessly irritating AI knows what it's doing though - I'd argue he's interfering with play as a 2 on 1 but referees i guess! Rest is inevitable;

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Note that this example happened with mentality set to very defensive and all my SUS options turned on. Done some testing and it's consistent across mentalities and with different tactics. Doesn't always happen ofc - an ultra defensive AI is never leaving 3 attackers up the pitch, they don't seem to try it as much if you're multiple goals ahead either, but be wary and maybe - if leading - think about swapping your attacking corner routines for something more defensive. Haven't observed it with throws as yet, nor have I tried it with a top level team so maybe doesn't happen as much with them (although possibly they'd more ruthlessly exploit it?).

 

Hope it helps!

 

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Champions to 7 games of the end ... incredible third season, season made with the option, greater rotation in all games.

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41 minutes ago, krugrockz said:

Champions to 7 games of the end ... incredible third season, season made with the option, greater rotation in all games.

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impressive. which tactic?

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For you what is the best 4231 tactic you have created, or do you have a table of your all tactics? Thank you

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I was using MR L Forum but has stopped working. Have you joined MR L Discord?

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FM  19.2 From Top dog to Under dog


ARGUS Press 352                             P105               Sub
TIME343 Press                                 P105

BEOWULF Press 4231                    P108

BEOWULF 4231   TH                             P109 TH P102

BEOWULF 4231 STD DL                   P102
BEOWULF Press 424                      P106

BEOWULF 424 IF  Press                 P105

BEOWULF 442WF9                          P108
BEOWULF 442w                              P105

ARGUS 3421 IF                                  P105                        sub

ARGUS  451                                      p110                         sub

ARGUS  41131                                 P108 ALL CUPS

ROUTE 66      442                             P106                         sub

STARGAZING Press                        P107

DARK SIDE 4231                             P102

DARK SIDE 4411                            P103

DARK SIDE 451 Positive               P101

MU 07/08 442                               P103
BLUE MATTER Press 433             P109                            sub + under
BLUE   MATTER Press 4312        p104

BLUE MATTER 4321                     P109 ALL CUPS

BLUE MATTER 4321 CF                P108 ALL CUPS

WOF 343 Press                            P103 ALLCUPS

GOODBYE  3412                           P103
MIDSOMER Press 442                P104 ALL CUPS                  sub    under
BEOWULF Press 451                   P100 ALL CUPS             sub  under
MIDSOMER Press  4411             P105 ALL CUPS

BEOWULF 442 IW STD DL          P107 ALL CUPS

BEOWULF AF                                P106

BEOWULF 442 PF                         P107

BEOWULF 442 PF                         P108 ALL CUPS

BEOWULF 424                               P112 ALL CUPS

BEOWULF 4420                             P112 ALL CUPS

BEOWULF DEEP SICILIAN           P105

BEOWULF DEEP SICILIAN STD DL P106

 SICILIAN DEFENCE 442 DM       P103                                       under

WARPIGS 4312                             P109

BEOWULF Press 4231 DM         P107

BEOWULF 442 F9                        P109

BEOWULF 442 IW                       P111 ALL CUPS

BEOWULF 4411   IW                       P107

BEOWULF 4411                           P105

TIME 4240 Positive                     P103

TIME  424      Press                      P107

TIME 3421 Press                          P103

TIME 4321                                     P108 ALL CUPS

TIME 4231             Press             P107

TIME 4231Positive                       P108

TIME 4231 Press DLPD              P101

TIME 343 IF                                          P105 ALL CUPS

TIME 451                                              P103                                       under

TIME 442                                             P110                                          under

TIME 4411                                          P110                                           under

VOLANTE 42211                                P109

 VOLANTE   4222                      P110                                        under

VOLANTE MEZ Press                 P103                                     under

VOLANTE BBM Press                P100                                   under

BEOWULF 4411 NEWCASTLE   P92                                   under


PILGRIMAGE Flat 451                P105

PILGRIMAGE 451                         P105                              under
VOLANTE Anchor  424                P105                              under
PILGRIMAGE VOLANTE 3403      P99                               under

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I will need to edit list for latest tactics.

I will PM invitation

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14 hours ago, knap said:

PM sent

any chance you can send me an invite too Knap please?

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Knap, I'm think about starting a new save with Sevilla in Spain. Now, I was thinking about Beowulf 4231 Press for home/easy games and TIME 4231 Positive for away or more difficult games with maybe Beowulf 424 112P when I need a goal. Would this work?

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You can try that combination. 

Be aware of the potential of the 424 as somebody tested the under dog capabilities, expected finish 18th.

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5 hours ago, nemanja2306 said:

Knap, I'm think about starting a new save with Sevilla in Spain. Now, I was thinking about Beowulf 4231 Press for home/easy games and TIME 4231 Positive for away or more difficult games with maybe Beowulf 424 112P when I need a goal. Would this work?

I use Beowulf 4321 press with Ajax both home and away. Maybe sometimes in tougher games I play the DLP as a defensive instead of support, but otherwise no changes. Granted, Spain is a harder league than Holland but I still managed comfortable away wins at PSV and Feyenoord with this formation. Also won big games at Bayern, Man City in the CL without changing the tactic, so worth a try... 

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Could you guys test this tweak and let me know if it works for as it's been working wonderful for me?

On the !FM19.2.1TIMEKnap4231PositiveP108.fmf change AM to Trequartista role and Striker to a F9

 

 

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