robbert_o154 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Hey man, priorities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimness Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I had troubles with ex-gf over going to away games in some god forsaken villages following third division team and she ended up with one of the crew organizers in the end. Talking about irony hahaha At least Ricardo's gf can be moved by scoreline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 BTW how come that Stekelenburg wasn't picked? Made some really poor career choices. From world class to relegation fodder in 4 years. Basically ruined in Italy. Now relegated in England. He wasn't even close to being selected, probably 6th choice or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimness Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Depends if you are looking sportswise or moneywise. I think he probably earns more in Fulham than in Roma. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I doubt that Steek has the Bogarde-mentality ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimness Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Yeah none of them has Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicardoW Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I had troubles with ex-gf over going to away games in some god forsaken villages following third division team and she ended up with one of the crew organizers in the end. Talking about irony hahahaAt least Ricardo's gf can be moved by scoreline. I think she was more frustrated she couldn't watch herself. So rubbing the 5-1 in now every chance I get About Stekelenburg: made poor career choices (unlucky a little bit as well), but in my opinion he's still at least as good as Cillessen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I think Stekelenburg needs to move to another club that is capable of reaching a midtable position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlyons Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 He didn't make poor career choices; he started to play poorly. He didn't leave Roma because he was chasing more money at Fulham, but because Roma didn't want him any more after his form fell apart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted June 15, 2014 Author SI Staff Share Posted June 15, 2014 Stekelenburg is mentally insecure, and unhappy - that counts for some unstable goalkeeping - think Casillas right now What. A. Second. Half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Hopefully you haven't blown your load early, as I'd like to see this team go far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I'm still buzzing, this is the sort of match you tell your grandchildren about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Let's not get carried away. Alonso subbed off also contributed to the flattering scoreline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Feck not getting carried away. We trashed the world champions! FIVE goals. No excuses. They could have put on an extra player and it wouldn't have mattered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Silva failing to secure the 2-0 for example ... let's not get carried away by scoreboard journalism ... does prove though the exciting prospects of players like Sneijder, Robben, Blind, Van Persie in the turnover and their ability to create chances and goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Scoreboard journalism. Yeah, what's 5 goals (should/could have been 7) against Spain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Scoreboard journalism. Yeah, what's 5 goals (should/could have been 7) against Spain yeah well as I mentioned could've been 2-0 as well at some stage and then it would have been a different game ... but that would also be scoreboard journalism, Spain was nowhere, the Dutch were great in the second half, end of story Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbert_o154 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 let's not get carried away by scoreboard journalism Spain was nowhere, the Dutch were great in the second half, end of story Ffs, do you even think before posting? You've gone from one argument to its exact opposite in the space of 22 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Riccardo Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/matthew-spiranovic-insists-socceroos-defence-up-to-challenge-posed-by-van-persie-and-robben/story-fnkjl6g2-1226954930572 "The Socceroos watched “bits and pieces” of the van Persie/Robben show in their hotel and the changerooms, but Spiranovic said they can match it with them after sparring 12 rounds with Chilean stars Alexis Sanchez and Arturo Vidal." Oh boy... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Ffs, do you even think before posting? You've gone from one argument to its exact opposite in the space of 22 minutes. tbh don't see why that contradicts, Spain wasn't too shabby first half, could've gone 2-0 up. Holland was better second half and scored easily. Spain was nowhere then and Holland had a great second half. But no reason to sing hosannah now and shout the Dutch on as world champions, just cause they beat the reigning champions easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbert_o154 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, do I honestly have to explain your own posts to you? DJ says: 'we thrashed the world champion.' Your answer: 'that's scoreboard journalism'; i.e. despite the score, Holland did not actually dominate the game. Then you go on to state that Holland in fact won the game easily. Twice. Of course it's a contradiction, it's a complete U-turn. Your last sentence is a non-sequitur; not only has no one claimed Holland will win the tournament, it also has nothing to do with the meaning of the phrase 'scoreboard journalism', a meaning I now start to suspect you don't actually grasp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicardoW Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 But Robbert, how would he get to over 50000 posts if he doesn't reply to everything? I agree that we shouldn't get carried away, but we'll have some (deserved) confidence back that will see us through to the QF I think. Much more than I hoped for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, do I honestly have to explain your own posts to you? DJ says: 'we thrashed the world champion.' Your answer: 'that's scoreboard journalism'; i.e. despite the score, Holland did not actually dominate the game. Then you go on to state that Holland in fact won the game easily. Twice. Of course it's a contradiction, it's a complete U-turn. Your last sentence is a non-sequitur; not only has no one claimed Holland will win the tournament, it also has nothing to do with the meaning of the phrase 'scoreboard journalism', a meaning I now start to suspect you don't actually grasp. ok last attempt to clarify: as mentioned in my post I was referring to the second half were the Dutch outplayed Spain, first half a different story. Scoreboard journalism means a big win gets seen as a sign the Dutch were way better than the opponents in this case and were never in any trouble. Even though they were better in the second half it wasn't the case for the whole match. Again, as I mentioned, could have been 2-0 down first half. Scoreboard camouflages this aspect hence my mentioning scoreboard journalism as it obscures the analysis of the fact the Dutch did struggle at times and it wasn't that obvious, easy etc. as the score might seem to indicate. Therefore any conclusions further to that in respect to the Dutch and their chances to win the cup would also be scoreboard journalism if all of a sudden optimism rules whereas pre match scepticism ruled. Again don't see why you see a contradiction in that. Maybe suffering from orange madness? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicardoW Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I see the contradiction as well. If you call scoreboard journalism (and I really see where you're coming from), you can't state any further that Holland won easily. That's not only a contradiction, it might even be called hypocrisy? Holland won easily is a scoreboard statement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted June 17, 2014 Author SI Staff Share Posted June 17, 2014 Isnt it funny that a lot of people have been saying it should have been alot MORE than "just" the 5-1 win? Also granted, when it was 0-1 (through the ricockulous penalty) - Spain did have a few opportunities to the 0-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Suppose it gets to 2-0, what are the chances of Buffalo calling Spain superior, regardless of the fact that they were pish and helped along by the ref? about 5315631% I'd say. Scoreboard journalism, indeed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 that would be scoreboard journalism indeed. Do feel the Dutch were only stronger second half, and to be clear I don't think they were only cause they scored their goals then. Maybe the latter is why you accuse me of contradicting myself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicardoW Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Shocked to see not a single post after our game against Australia. We're in the next round after two games. That's four years earlier than imagined! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Drinking beer and dancing all week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Haha, I guess we all secretly took for granted that after Spain we would beat the Aussies. Well, the way the game went it was hard enough but it was sort of freak-ish. First that one-in-a-million goal, then a laughable penalty. We did well to recover from those. Have to question the use of 3-5-2 though, it would be like against Wales and that's exactly how it went. Once we went to 4-3-3 we could have scored another 3 goals. So, van Persie out next match. I want Hunter, but we will get Lens. This time, 3-5-2 is the right choice, those Chilis will attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Wasn't particularly convinced by the defence when they went to 4 at the back, think they need the security of the extra defender Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 We can't play 5-3-3 ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted June 20, 2014 Author SI Staff Share Posted June 20, 2014 Shocked to see not a single post after our game against Australia. We're in the next round after two games. That's four years earlier than imagined! Nope. Have been saying we' d qualify all along. A bit disappointed about the poor showing against Australia. Might lose to Chile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicardoW Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I'm indeed hoping we'll counter Chile to death. They are good, but not as good as they are made out to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 We can't play 5-3-3 ^^ depends on what Cillesen plans to do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicardoW Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Okay, I'm officially on the bandwagon. What a great performance. Feck possession, we've outshot them 8-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 better pray Robben and van Persie don't get injured or suspended though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Parker Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 better pray Robben and van Persie don't get injured or suspended though Not if your alternative is Jermain Lens, I don't understand the point in him. Looked 100% dreadful. Depay on the other hand looks a very good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 The alternative is actually Huntelaar. No idea why Van Gaal played Lens yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorando Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 No idea why Van Gaal played Lens yesterday. Really? Huntelaar is useless in a side that drops deep and aims for counterattacks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Can't be worse than Lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 you need someone to chase after balls, pacy, a faster/younger version of Kuyt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbert_o154 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Can't be worse than Lens. Sure he can. Gorando had it exactly right; Huntelaar's major weakness is lack of pace, no point in having him play off the shoulder of the defender if that defender is playing at the middle line, like Chile's were yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 you need someone to chase after balls, pacy, a faster/younger version of Kuyt Sure he can. Gorando had it exactly right; Huntelaar's major weakness is lack of pace, no point in having him play off the shoulder of the defender if that defender is playing at the middle line, like Chile's were yesterday. I disagree. Huntelaar is good in the air. Hoof to him and he would head it to Robben's path. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Even though I'm a big fan of KJH, I agree, he would not be of much use in a formation where he has to chase after the ball all the time. But Robben and RvP look very fit to me, if they get injured it would be very unlucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I disagree. Huntelaar is good in the air. Hoof to him and he would head it to Robben's path. not when he needs to camp around the halfway line tbh. Better with the throughpasses by Sneijder, Blind, ... being chased by pacy players such as Robben. And Van Persie is a great connection point already up front for that matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I disagree. Huntelaar is good in the air. Hoof to him and he would head it to Robben's path. I want to see you manager a football team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicardoW Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Even though I'm a big fan of KJH, I agree, he would not be of much use in a formation where he has to chase after the ball all the time. But Robben and RvP look very fit to me, if they get injured it would be very unlucky. Stop. Jinxing. Now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 come one penalty kicks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Stop. Jinxing. Now. No worries, we got Fer. Oh :o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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