RicardoW Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Yeah, he was the one I'd like to see next to De Jong next match. As long as we don't start Clasie, we'll be fine though. Useless dwarf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 "kabouter Wesley" suffices indeed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I don't think anyone played badly in the first place, but there were some individual instances of silliness or lack of concentration. Vlaar and de Vrij both let a ball jump off their foot to an opponent and I think Sneijder caused a dangerous counter attack by a careless pass. He hasn't really come into his game yet, maybe his position is such that he can't unleash many of his mighty shots, but I'm pretty sure he'll be of use with that yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-IceMan Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Oranje Boven! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Oranje Boven! How does this one continue these days anyway? Leve de ko-ho-ning? Anyway, hup Holland! These Mexicans are good, but also counterable like Chile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 it continues: "leve de koning en Maxima!" first bit sung as usual, then "Maxima" shouted/chanted after Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicardoW Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Quarters :cool: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Quarters :cool: Might as well celebrate making the semi final already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Congrats on the semis guys ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Congrats on the semis guys ... Football is not played on paper Costa Rica are still unbeaten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Riccardo Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Congrats, but Robben made the most of that. I wasn't happy with Netherlands style of play up until Mexico scored. Wesley Sniper, nice goal though. FYI Costa Rica finished top of a group with Italy, England and Uruguay.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Let's hope the team doesn't underestimate Costa Rica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Football is not played on paper Costa Rica are still unbeaten. Anti jinx ftw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-IceMan Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 All that whining about Robben's "dive", people seem to forget he got 2 penalty fouls against him at the end of the first half, and didnt get jack ****..... Justice is basicly served. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Not to mention Ochoa and his outrageous luck. Had to come to an end some time and that time was yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 All that whining about Robben's "dive", people seem to forget he got 2 penalty fouls against him at the end of the first half, and didnt get jack ****..... Justice is basicly served. You can't get two penalties for two kicks at the same time. What about the kick on the Mexican player's head in your area? Dutch people conveniently forgetting that ever happened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 A fantastic likeness of Robben here, shame the ref was no Homer Simpson. [video=youtube;0MNrX4o6bfQ] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbert_o154 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Not to mention Ochoa and his outrageous luck. Had to come to an end some time and that time was yesterday In the bar I was watching the game in yesterday there was another bloke who'd go on and on about Ochoa's "luck". I can't say I really understand the thinking. Guy pulls off save after save, game after game, how long do you continue to call it luck and view each instance as unrelated to the rest? After how many saves does it become skill? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicardoW Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I've been waiting to really react to all the "OMG NEVER A PEN ROBBEN CHEAT" stuff for a day now, trying to wait for it to go away. But damn, people do not understand the rules. Yes, Robben did fall over more than he should have, but Marquez steps on his foot the moment he cuts back to shoot/make a pass. If that's not a penalty, I don't know. Mind you, I'm also convinced we deservedly conceded the Diego Costa one in the first game. A foul is a foul, play acting after it or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicardoW Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 In the bar I was watching the game in yesterday there was another bloke who'd go on and on about Ochoa's "luck". I can't say I really understand the thinking. Guy pulls off save after save, game after game, how long do you continue to call it luck and view each instance as unrelated to the rest? After how many saves does it become skill? Haven't really seen the Brazil game up close, but I noticed almost all the chances last game were shot against him. You can call that good positioning, bad shooting or whatever you call it, but I'll defend calling it luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Nah, he didn't touch him tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilSaint Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I've been waiting to really react to all the "OMG NEVER A PEN ROBBEN CHEAT" stuff for a day now, trying to wait for it to go away. But damn, people do not understand the rules. Yes, Robben did fall over more than he should have, but Marquez steps on his foot the moment he cuts back to shoot/make a pass. If that's not a penalty, I don't know.Mind you, I'm also convinced we deservedly conceded the Diego Costa one in the first game. A foul is a foul, play acting after it or not. You waited for a whole day? Dear me, how on earth did you manage that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Yes, Robben did fall over more than he should have. Christ the local drunk falls over less than he does! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-IceMan Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 You can't get two penalties for two kicks at the same time.What about the kick on the Mexican player's head in your area? Dutch people conveniently forgetting that ever happened Both kicks were penalty worthy fouls, which i said, i didnt say he should get 2 penalties for those 2 lol...... About the headkick, he dived his head down, dutch guy kicks ball away (so plays ball), then the guy's head hits the foot. If you think thats a foul......... (even worse, a penalty foul? lol)..... Mind you, I'm also convinced we deservedly conceded the Diego Costa one in the first game. A foul is a foul, play acting after it or not. Nah, he stepped on the defender's leg, thats not fouling him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 All that whining about Robben's "dive", people seem to forget he got 2 penalty fouls against him at the end of the first half, and didnt get jack ****..... Justice is basicly served. Yeah, that's how it works If we're talking about evening up his legit pens vs his dives let's get the notebook out, shall we .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 In the bar I was watching the game in yesterday there was another bloke who'd go on and on about Ochoa's "luck". I can't say I really understand the thinking. Guy pulls off save after save, game after game, how long do you continue to call it luck and view each instance as unrelated to the rest? After how many saves does it become skill? Off course he's been great, but there were several shots that happened to hit him from a few yards out, there is no way that he could react, just happened to be there. Then the ball off his fists on the post... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Yeah, that's how it worksIf we're talking about evening up his legit pens vs his dives let's get the notebook out, shall we .... Yeah, let's. You'd be amazed once you lift the 'If Robben falls it has to be a dive'-glasses. The fact that he makes most of most contacts does not mean the contacts aren't there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Klaas Jan, brings a tear to the eye *sniff* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted June 30, 2014 Author SI Staff Share Posted June 30, 2014 I've been waiting to really react to all the "OMG NEVER A PEN ROBBEN CHEAT" stuff for a day now, trying to wait for it to go away. But damn, people do not understand the rules. Yes, Robben did fall over more than he should have, but Marquez steps on his foot the moment he cuts back to shoot/make a pass. If that's not a penalty, I don't know.Mind you, I'm also convinced we deservedly conceded the Diego Costa one in the first game. A foul is a foul, play acting after it or not. Never in a million years should that have been a penalty. Robben was fouled by two players in the first half, we deserved a penalty there. There was contact in the 90+4th minute. But I wouldn't have given a penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 was a very light penalty, and yep should've been one 1st half. Only thing I hope now is, being "rewarded" now, he doesn't do this too often from now on. Any news on De Jong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 A fantastic likeness of Robben here, shame the ref was no Homer Simpson.[video=youtube;0MNrX4o6bfQ] Howard Webb lookalike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artest Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Saveeeeeeee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Saveeeeeeee Yes, Cillissen is doing quite well, too. But you're kinda late ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Yeah, let's. You'd be amazed once you lift the 'If Robben falls it has to be a dive'-glasses. The fact that he makes most of most contacts does not mean the contacts aren't there.Hahaha this is amazing given the poster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Hahaha this is amazing given the poster Aren't you Italian or at least a fan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-IceMan Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Any news on De Jong? De Jong seems to be out for the rest of the tournament, which is unfortunate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 De Jong seems to be out for the rest of the tournament, which is unfortunate then again at some point Louis said he didn't need a player like him certain games anyway. Plus a half-brain Martins Indi being back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted July 1, 2014 Author SI Staff Share Posted July 1, 2014 then again at some point Louis said he didn't need a player like him certain games anyway. Plus a half-brain Martins Indi being back. He's fluent in Portuguese, so I'm not sure about that half-brain comment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicardoW Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 He's fluent in Portuguese, so I'm not sure about that half-brain comment? I am. Seeing his interviews and reading back interviews with him, he's so, so dumb. Good defender though. Last thought on Robben: I clearly think it was a penalty, since Marquez sticks out his leg, making contact and missing the ball completely. But I can live with not a single non-Dutchman agreeing with me, Robben is a bit of an insufferable person, so I see where it comes from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Every time Robben is fouled, the jealous crew cry 'dive' and thus 'prove' to themselves he dives on every contact. Observation bias or whatever it's called. They can go take a hike and cry in a corner. As I say more often: Oranje is fighting fire with fire these days. For yonks years we've been the mugs playing beautiful football. Now that we play realistically, we are all of a sudden the villains for cheating like other teams do. And we're not even that bad. Some of these South American teams seem to have the instruction to dribble, then pass, then fall down in case the pass doesn't connect, you never know, you may get a FK. Every fupping time. See Blind against Chile. Persistent fouling? Persistent diving more like it. If Robben does that, it's the most heinous crime and worthy of a Suarez-like punishment, how ridiculous is that really. Measuring with two measures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Official now: de Jong has slightly torn his groin muscle, recovery 4-6 weeks. Great pity, for him and for the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 He's fluent in Portuguese, so I'm not sure about that half-brain comment? didn't he suffer concussion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbert_o154 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Every time Robben is fouled, the jealous crew cry 'dive' and thus 'prove' to themselves he dives on every contact. Observation bias or whatever it's called. Confirmation bias is what you're looking for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 That's it. Too much football, it devastates my vocabulary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Official now: de Jong has slightly torn his groin muscle, recovery 4-6 weeks. Great pity, for him and for the team. Surely he will be a huge miss in the knockout matches now? First Strootman and now de Jong. Not exactly what van Gaal is dreaming about. For what it's worth, I thought it was a penner on Robben. He clearly acts too, but there is contact as well. In any case, not close to as terrible a decision as the one on Fred. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Yeah, let's. You'd be amazed once you lift the 'If Robben falls it has to be a dive'-glasses. The fact that he makes most of most contacts does not mean the contacts aren't there. Ah that's ok because you get a penalty for 'contact', don't you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Ah that's ok because you get a penalty for 'contact', don't you. No, has to happen three times before you finally get one IIRC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 You don't get any for 'contact'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 You don't get any for 'contact'. Yes you do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-IceMan Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 You don't get any for 'contact'. Ya dnt get one for 2x contact, so you get one for 1 "contact" . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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