mimland Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Got mine working now it will be interesting to see if the game managed to save before it crashed on exit yesteday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 There where other threads in the past years, about can't download patch, corrupted file, game does not load after patch, game says still 11.1. after patching etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun7Scully Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Next week - how to construct a neural network with the intelligence levels of a 10 year old child ... in 3 easy steps!!!Seriously guys .. bin steam .. it causes more problems then it cures .. What about the 1000s of people who don't visit the FM forums and are now left with, in their mind, a broken game and not a clue how to fix it? I agree with Thunda... I was lucky to have found this forum weeks ago while researching about the new features of FM12... I pity those who don't know how to fix this problem! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunda Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 They will be smart enough to go to steam/fm forums if in need I think you over-estimate people .. a 12 year old kid would? A 65 year old bloke who knows nothing about PCs or how they work yet plays FM to pass the time? I would hazard a guess that most people who play FM probably don't even know the forum exists .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun7Scully Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Just tried verifying for the 2nd time and still shows a crash dump while loading the game.... Help.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc88 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Neil do you think this is acceptable for customers to have todo once they have purchased the game? I now have to go out so am unable to try again and play FM. I get very little time to play the game anyway due to work and girlfriend commitments, so when i get a spare few hours like today i jump around the house for joy in anticipation to play FM. Now i cant........ acceptable?? Some people are unbelievable on this site, you are one of the worst i've seen, a little trip to google would help you fix your problem. Steam isn't really that hard to use, I had the same problem took 5 - 10 minutes to fix it, only requires the smallest bit of intelligence which you seem to lack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun7Scully Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 YAY!!!! Got it to work after the 2nd attempt of verifying!! Thanks for all the help Neil and all the rest of you guys here in the forum! Much apprecieated!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 YAY!!!! Got it to work after the 2nd attempt of verifying!! Thanks for all the help Neil and all the rest of you guys here in the forum! Much apprecieated!! Yeh it seems to be you need to verify twice, first time you get 45Mb, second time you get 61 Mb and then if you click play it updates the game and kicks in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azza09 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I've got this problem too. Just in the process of reaquiring the files for the second time...this time its 3 files instead of 4 though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azza09 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Well, seems to have worked! Like others have said, seems as if you have to verify twice for it to work again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Well, seems to have worked! Like others have said, seems as if you have to verify twice for it to work again. Yeh, like you have to get the first batch before it realises it hasn't got the second batch:confused: sounds like something my wife would organise:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie_b Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 This is why we should have the option like we've had in the past, of playing it through Steam or not. Think the way us customers that have bought the game have been treated is nothing short of a disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truegunner Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I'm so glad I followed the instructions and got it working before coming on here and complaining Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jase19 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Neil do you think this is acceptable for customers to have todo once they have purchased the game? I now have to go out so am unable to try again and play FM. I get very little time to play the game anyway due to work and girlfriend commitments, so when i get a spare few hours like today i jump around the house for joy in anticipation to play FM. Now i cant........ acceptable?? you mean things in this world do not work every time without fail? *gasp* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jase19 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 for me, as with others, i had to verify the files twice and the game worked without a problem. without complaining. so for people not wanting to go back through and actually read how to do it, and would rather ask "how?" and then complain... 1. open steam 2. right click fm12 3. click properties 4. click "local files" tab 5. click "verify integrity of game cache..." wait for it to complete verifying, then downloading. exit steam. restart steam, REPEAT STEPS 1-5 AGAIN then you should be good to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_macleod Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 This is why we should have the option like we've had in the past, of playing it through Steam or not.Think the way us customers that have bought the game have been treated is nothing short of a disgrace. Lmfao GOLD This place cracks me up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboydonegood Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I had this this morning, verifying the game cache worked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg308 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Keep getting this message so cant go on the game. Anyone else having this issue? Stupid steam if i didnt have to use it wouldnt have this problem! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beast72 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 shouldn't HAVE to do this though, it's a crock. and Neil - for years I've downloaded updates from external sites with a damn lot less hassle than Steam is. bad bad decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman260497 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 this is hapaning to me to, i have looked at steams support and is said to update your drivers, im doing it now i will update if it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg308 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Ok thanks mate. We shouldnt have to do this though. Si please dont use steam only next year!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herter Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I wonder if marcysaint got his game working since he got very silent in this thread? I must admit I laughed alot at his posts.. gotta love how people can get THAT angry over such a minor setback. (assuming it was the double-verify thingy that caused his problems) Anyhoo, weird that this happen at all.. I have many games on Steam and have never experienced this problem myself.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman260497 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 this is hapaning to me to, i have looked at steams support and is said to update your drivers, im doing it now i will update if it works. that did not work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt ex SEGA Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 that did not work Have you done the cache verify? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeholly5 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 for me, as with others, i had to verify the files twice and the game worked without a problem.without complaining. so for people not wanting to go back through and actually read how to do it, and would rather ask "how?" and then complain... 1. open steam 2. right click fm12 3. click properties 4. click "local files" tab 5. click "verify integrity of game cache..." wait for it to complete verifying, then downloading. exit steam. restart steam, REPEAT STEPS 1-5 AGAIN then you should be good to go. Worked !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeholly5 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 ok it didnt ha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beast72 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 It's OK saying you have many games on Steam with no problems......BUT people ARE having problems with FM12 & Steam, I can understand why people are getting angry - they've paid good money for something and unless Steam lets you - you cannot play it users are at the mercy of a 3rd party. I activated my game via steam but surely if I want nothing more to do with it shouldn't that be MY choice?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jase19 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 shouldn't HAVE to do this though, it's a crock. and Neil - for years I've downloaded updates from external sites with a damn lot less hassle than Steam is. bad bad decision. I hope you're not serious. the process of verifying cache data is about as easy as it gets. i'm quite certain you could teach a monkey to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herter Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 shouldn't HAVE to do this though, it's a crock. and Neil - for years I've downloaded updates from external sites with a damn lot less hassle than Steam is. bad bad decision. What is it that you "shouldnt have to do"? verify cache?.. well how is that more hassle than having to download the patch from some website? Surely both are very trivial and take no time to do. Get off the "I hate steam"-horse and just live with it.. complaining on the forums will not help you in any way.. It will only make you look bad in other peoples eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibserpool Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I only had to verify once and it worked no problem. I tried to get on, got the error message, came on the forum to see if I was the only one, saw Neils message about how to fix it, tried it, and now it works. All in the space of 10 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herter Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 It's OK saying you have many games on Steam with no problems......BUT people ARE having problems with FM12 & Steam, I can understand why people are getting angry - they've paid good money for something and unless Steam lets you - you cannot play itusers are at the mercy of a 3rd party. I activated my game via steam but surely if I want nothing more to do with it shouldn't that be MY choice?? Do you think acting like a spoilt little brat on the forums will help fix the game?.. I'm guessing no.. So instead people should take a deep breath and listen to the advice from SI and try the different possible solutions. If it turns out that it is unfixable (highly unlikely) they can demand the money back. No need to behave like cavemen... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeholly5 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 for me, as with others, i had to verify the files twice and the game worked without a problem.without complaining. so for people not wanting to go back through and actually read how to do it, and would rather ask "how?" and then complain... 1. open steam 2. right click fm12 3. click properties 4. click "local files" tab 5. click "verify integrity of game cache..." wait for it to complete verifying, then downloading. exit steam. restart steam, REPEAT STEPS 1-5 AGAIN then you should be good to go. did it twice and worked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herter Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I only had to verify once and it worked no problem. I tried to get on, got the error message, came on the forum to see if I was the only one, saw Neils message about how to fix it, tried it, and now it works. All in the space of 10 minutes. And I suspect this is what 90-95% of all people would experience if they just would relax and try it out.. oh and good for you that you got it working Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 well i had one of my only steam issues today because of this! Tried to start and it said it was unavaliable, then it updated and told me my .exe file was missing when i tried to use my FM12shortcut, so i verified the cache, then i got a crash dump every time i started up, verified the cache again and boom back in buisness!! Some humble pie for me i must say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeholly5 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Lost all my saves on the game!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 That crash dump when it failed to open FM froze my computer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Eskenen Un Un Posted October 27, 2011 Author Share Posted October 27, 2011 I do everything, restart the PC and now double click FM 2012, " Preparing to launch Football Manager 2012 " message box appear like 1 hour already, is this what we call updating ??? :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herter Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I do everything, restart the PC and now double click FM 2012, " Preparing to launch Football Manager 2012 " message box appear like 1 hour already, is this what we call updating ??? :confused: did you verify cache twice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elohir Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I hope you're not serious. the process of verifying cache data is about as easy as it gets. i'm quite certain you could teach a monkey to do it.You arrogant little... How on earth is someone fumbling with steam for the first time and who doesn't even know the forum exists supposed to sit there looking at the game they paid for not working and magically go "oh I know, I just need to verify cache data 9 times". As crazy as it apparently seems to some people, I'm afraid that the vast majority of computer users (and football fans) have absolutely no interest in the inner workings of computer game provisioning services. The logic being thrown around here to excuse what's happening is absolutely ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidexfactor Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Guys I don't know what happeneing. Been playing the New FM12 through steam, but all of a sudden I tried loading the FM12 from the desk top shortcut as I do, steam loads but not the game. Whilst on stem I go to the games library and try loading it from there but again nothing loads. PLEASE HELP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beast72 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 IMO it was easier clicking a link to download a file and letting the .exe do all the work, never had ANY problems and no, i won't get off the 'i hate steam' horse. and if i look bad in your eyes - tough. I've paid my money and I have a right to complain if it's not to my satisfaction - and I'm not alone. I've been playing FM (and CM before that) for years and the only versions I've had problems with are the ones that have involved Steam. spoilt little brat???? i'm nearly 40 years old!!!!! what's so hard for you that people ARE having problems with this yes i've followed the advice given and it has worked - but not everybody knows their way round forums Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbsn1fan Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 confirm the game cache by right clicking the game in your library on steam then local files, then you will see it. i did this and now its downloading something. dont know if it will work but seems to be what si are saying to do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbsn1fan Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 sorry whe u right click the game select properties first EDIT: mine is now running fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herter Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 You arrogant little... How on earth is someone fumbling with steam for the first time and who doesn't even know the forum exists supposed to sit there looking at the game they paid for not working and magically go "oh I know, I just need to verify cache data 9 times". As crazy as it apparently seems to some people, I'm afraid that the vast majority of computer users (and football fans) have absolutely no interest in the inner workings of computer game provisioning services. The logic being thrown around here to excuse what's happening is absolutely ridiculous. Of course some people will have difficulties, but surely those people would have the exact same problem with patches before steam.. they wouldnt even know the patches existed and therefore would "live" with the bugs, crash-dump and soforth. It works both ways. The major benefit with Steam is that now all people will get the patch (however some tend to have problem with installing patches apparently) - This, however, isnt a FM issue, but a Steam issue and I'm pretty sure 99,9% of all users that experience the problem will get help, unlike before where MANY had to accept the bugs and crashes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herter Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 IMO it was easier clicking a link to download a file and letting the .exe do all the work, never had ANY problems and no, i won't get off the 'i hate steam' horse. and if i look bad in your eyes - tough. I've paid my money and I have a right to complain if it's not to my satisfaction - and I'm not alone. I've been playing FM (and CM before that) for years and the only versions I've had problems with are the ones that have involved Steam.spoilt little brat???? i'm nearly 40 years old!!!!! what's so hard for you that people ARE having problems with this yes i've followed the advice given and it has worked - but not everybody knows their way round forums Just to point it out.. I didnt call YOU a spoilt little brat (sorry if that offended you) - It was meant for those that come with fire to burn SI down because they lost a game they "shouldnt have" or something I totally agree that this is a not good and yes, people are allowed to complain.. I didnt say otherwise.. I said that those that dont complain, but instead act like monkeys shouldnt do that.. they should complain instead in a mature fashion.. they are only hurting themselves by acting like that.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jase19 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Guys I don't know what happeneing. Been playing the New FM12 through steam, but all of a sudden I tried loading the FM12 from the desk top shortcut as I do, steam loads but not the game. Whilst on stem I go to the games library and try loading it from there but again nothing loads. PLEASE HELP do you get any error messages? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elohir Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Of course some people will have difficulties, but surely those people would have the exact same problem with patches before steam.. they wouldnt even know the patches existed and therefore would "live" with the bugs, crash-dump and soforth. It works both ways.How many v1 releases of FM/CM have had a bug which stopped the user from ever playing the game? That's the difference.The major benefit with Steam is that now all people will get the patch (however some tend to have problem with installing patches apparently) - This, however, isnt a FM issue, but a Steam issueIt could absolutely be 100% down to an issue with Steam, but considering SI forced that choice onto their customer base knowing full well that a large portion of users were going to have huge issues (see staff posts in other thread about other Steam releases) it is absolutely their fault, and responsibility.and I'm pretty sure 99,9% of all users that experience the problem will get help, unlike before where MANY had to accept the bugs and crashes.Wait, what? You're sure 99.9% of users will 'get help' when steam stops their game from working, but without Steam none of them would have been able to 'get help' with issues caused by a lack of patching? Evidently I've missed out on the complimentary Steam Fairy with every purchase. ¬_¬ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loversleaper Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Verifying stuff twice or more... hmmmm. Maybe somebody should have been sending out emails with detailed descriptions on what to do - especially since there are only about 1500 online means that there are literly a hundred thousand that have bought the game and are not here to hear the news... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sesulo Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I followed the good instructions from Neil Brock and now it's working. Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beast72 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Look, I love FM - have done for years, totally addicted. I can understand SI going through the activation route on Steam (even giving the disaster a couple of years ago when the servers got overloaded on release day). But surely we should have been given an option to either continue or abandon Steam after that? I wanted to play my game 2 hours ago and couldn't. If I turn off the automatic updates in Steam would that fix this issue? Or would Steam block me opening the game until the update is applied? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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