Astafjevs Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 No he hasn't. It's fairly obvious we suit playing centrally. When you have midfielders the quality of Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini (a few years ago), Rui Costa, Rivaldo and later Kaká - you don't bother playing with wingers. He was only told to play with two because the one striker system wasn't working. It wasn't great to watch (Berlusconi's main issue), and the results were going downhill the longer it was used. One of the few Silvio outbursts I happened to agree with. If I'm honest, I reckon that would probably suit Chelsea. Essien, Mikel, Lampard, Joe Cole (he can play in the middle), Ballack, Deco will fit nicely. I assume one or two of those may leave, but they will be replaced if that does happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Yeah the Milan of 04/05 with a 4-3-1-2 was far better than that of 06/07 in a 4-3-2-1. If he does go with a 4-3-1-2 diamond it may be J.Cole behind Anelka and Drogba unless he buys a load of new players ofc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRandomGuy Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 urgh, this is actually going to happen isn't it? a guy who had Kaka, a good Shevchenko, Pirlo, Gattuso, Maldini, Nesta and Seedorf in his side, and couldn't even win the league when they were fixing matches. just cannot fathom this decision at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Big Roms bum-chum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 urgh, this is actually going to happen isn't it?a guy who had Kaka, a good Shevchenko, Pirlo, Gattuso, Maldini, Nesta and Seedorf in his side, and couldn't even win the league when they were fixing matches. just cannot fathom this decision at all. You need to go and read about Calciopoli a bit more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Care Free Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 **** Dont think Ancelotti will be the likeable manager Guus was, or have the tactical nouse. Can see it being another season of not getting close to the title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRandomGuy Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 You need to go and read about Calciopoli a bit more. I can't be bothered. One win in eight years is still absolutely awful, even on a level playing field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramovic Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Not too thrilled with the appointment if it happens but we we have to hope for the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.25 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 So sad to see Guus in charge of Chelsea for the last time (for now ). Have always been my number 1 replacement for Mourinho. I really cannot take this Ancelotti talk seriously. Sure, it's probably going to happen, but I'm soooo dissapointed with this decision. Way overrated manager imo. Only upside is he wants to bring in Agüero and Young (if the gossip is true). On the other hand there's been talk of him exchanging Essien for Pirlo and Seedorf. I'm personally going to kick his ass if this happens. Another downside is that he probably won't be as likely to give Stoch, di Santo etc a fair chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Care Free Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 But what the squad needs is a period of stability and i really dont think he will bring that as Roman wont want him when we are third in the league come next May. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.25 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Well, who else would everyone like to see as the next manager in charge? Guus staying would of course be number one (not mentioning a return of Mourinho), but really, I can't see anyone else being a possibility? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJW Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Hang on, being interested in Young is an upside? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Whats wrong with Young? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJW Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Not the sort of player Chelsea should be looking at. Far too inconsistant for my liking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRandomGuy Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Young would barely, if at all, be an upgrade on Kalou, and providing they start next season like they ended this, would be a significant downgrade on Malouda. Not worth whatever ridiculous amount of money Villa will want for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Well, who else would everyone like to see as the next manager in charge? Guus staying would of course be number one (not mentioning a return of Mourinho), but really, I can't see anyone else being a possibility? After seeing the effect a club legend has had at Barcelona I think Zola could do a job for us alongside Clarke (maybe Di Matteo if Clarke gets a manager job somewhere) Other than that been impressed by Moyes for a couple of seasons now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybob Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Tbf, there aren't a lot of managers I can think of that I'd like to see at the Bridge, but, considering his relationship with Guus, penchant for attacking football which would potentially see more leniancy from Roman hence more stability, and a history of bringing youth through... I'd rather have Rijkaard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kempydaniels Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Would be great is Steve Clarke came back in any capacity. And I've been impressed by Moyes too, but maybe not the big name Roman wants. I'm as annoyed as most of you with Ancelotti, never wanted him to come, but it seems inevitable that he will. So I guess we'll have to see what he does. I think with our squad and recent history logic dictates we play with wingers, especially considering Drogba is so dangerous from crosses (see FA Cup Final). Although he has played with central midfielders mainly he now has quality wingers at his disposal for the first time. Then again if he comes in and plays a Christmas tree formation or whatever he wants it could prove successful. After all we now all have faith in our squad after what Guus has done. And it is unlikely thatr Ancelotti is going to come in and make too many changes. So long as he keeps the core together and doesn't bring ageing stars in then surely he will prove a success. On a personal level I believe that this squad can win the league, obviously one or two additions would be helpful. And given that Ancelotti has a full transfer window to work with he can add the few he thinks the team needs. We have the experienced players in Ballack, Drogba, Lampard, Terry, A. Cole and even Sheva if he is coming back. Therefore he doesn't need to bring in any more players approaching 30. I'm unhappy with the appointment but trying to look at the positives. It would be hard to a bad job with that squad I guess, then again Scolari wasn't great. At least Ancelotti has solid experience at a top club with top players/egos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRandomGuy Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Tbf, there aren't a lot of managers I can think of that I'd like to see at the Bridge, but, considering his relationship with Guus, penchant for attacking football which would potentially see more leniancy from Roman hence more stability, and a history of bringing youth through... I'd rather have Rijkaard. Rijkaard is preferable to Ancelotti in the same way that being repeatedly kicked in the b*ll*cks is preferable to being hit by a train. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Care Free Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Tbf, there aren't a lot of managers I can think of that I'd like to see at the Bridge, but, considering his relationship with Guus, penchant for attacking football which would potentially see more leniancy from Roman hence more stability, and a history of bringing youth through... I'd rather have Rijkaard. Id go for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Rijkaard is preferable to Ancelotti in the same way that being repeatedly kicked in the b*ll*cks is preferable to being hit by a train. Haha what a supreme analogy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klimowicz Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Worst kept secret from SSN: Ancelotti now confirmed as the new Chelsea manager. Real Madrid tried to poach him last minute apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Not that happy about it but not a surprise. Got no choice but to get behind him and hope he proves us all wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 His English isnt as bad as has been reported. Interview Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.25 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Yeah, I'm quite surprised - and relieved - that his english isn't that bad actually. Anyway, now that it's official, I guess there's nothing to do but try to have faith in Carlo, but I must admit that i'm a little pessimistic. I think he'll be gone by april next year, but hopefully he proves me wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoolblowsme Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I've heard he's going to bring his assistant who speaks perfect English. I guess he even played for Watford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted June 1, 2009 Administrators Share Posted June 1, 2009 Wilkins speaks Italian, gtf Galli. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubos Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Not exactly my number 1 choice but he has been confirmed as our manager. I think it is time we get behind him and allow him to prove himself first without looking at him with any stereotype or past history. It's a new club, a new country and new fans. Sure, he might not have won as many Serie A titles as we might like even with the players at his disposal, but condemning him now without giving him a chance is not right. Hiddink said it himself, this club needs stability, and stability doesn't come in just half a season. We need to stick it out with a manager, this is our 5th in 2 years ffs. I am not a fan of Ancelotti but we should all get behind him and give him our support, and allow him to show us what he has got, before we come to conclusions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Not my first choice but am fully behind him. Just hope he doesn't try to sign Adebayor or Alonso Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 He can say 'Chelsea' so he's already 1-0 up on Scolari. At least it's been sorted quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I dislike him but a lot of that is on reputation, hopefully with time I will like him. If it all goes wrong this year at least Hiddink should be available to replace him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted June 1, 2009 Administrators Share Posted June 1, 2009 Very basic squad appraisal this season 10 - Lampard 9 - Anelka, A.Cole 8 - Terry, Ivanovic, Essien, Mikel, Kalou 7 - Carvalho, Alex, Malouda, J. Cole, Drogba, Bosingwa, Cech 6 - Belletti, Ferreira, Ballack, Deco 5 - Di Santo, Quaresma Seem about right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRandomGuy Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Alex probably deserves an 8 I think. Been superb. More or less agree with the rest of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Care Free Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Yes Alex should be an 8 think. Pleased to see it confirmed, even though hes not my number one choice, as it means we can now seriously look into the transfer market. Hopefully Ray will stay as he can speak Italian, and seems to have a good raport with the players, which could prove a great link between Carlo and the others. I hope to see the following leave in the summer: Ferreira, Deco and Kalou. With very suitable replacements coming in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I agree 8 for Alex, been better than Carvalho and maybe Ivanovic. I would like to see Kalou stay, a pretty useful backup player, still young and hopefully can develop more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Care Free Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I dont think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 A very solid ITK on a Liverpool forum is saying that Chelsea are lining up a move for Peter Crouch, and have already sounded him out about it. Has there been anything on your forums about it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Whats an ITK? and Peter Crouch Jokers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 In The Know Do you not play AC Milan in a friendly this summer? In the states? Should be interesting Edit: Actually is it Inter? That'll be interesting too aswell, probably more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Whats an ITK? and Peter Crouch Jokers. An "In The Know" is someone who gets inside info on a club/transfer etc. He is really good usually and seems certain that Chelsea have made it known to Crouch that they are interested in signing him. It baffles me a little and part of me hopes it doesn't happen, but apparently we get a nice fat sell on fee if he moves and we need the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Care Free Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I dont think we will sign Peter Crouch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Haha superb, you got a link for this? Skybluedave - we're playing both AC and Inter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted June 1, 2009 Administrators Share Posted June 1, 2009 If anyone cares, we finished 6th in the Copa Amsterdam. Of 8. Two losses (0-2 to Ajax, 0-3 to Real Madrid) and two draws (2-2 with FCNH, 1-1 with Chivas), goals for Borini, Mellis and Nouble, usual suspects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kempydaniels Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I know its only rumour but, opinions on Daniel Sturridge. Would you welcome him? Would he fit in? Etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheer Class Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 An "In The Know" is someone who gets inside info on a club/transfer etc. He is really good usually and seems certain that Chelsea have made it known to Crouch that they are interested in signing him. It baffles me a little and part of me hopes it doesn't happen, but apparently we get a nice fat sell on fee if he moves and we need the money. 25% of any fee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Very basic squad appraisal this season10 - Lampard 9 - Anelka, A.Cole 8 - Terry, Ivanovic, Essien, Mikel, Kalou 7 - Carvalho, Alex, Malouda, J. Cole, Drogba, Bosingwa, Cech 6 - Belletti, Ferreira, Ballack, Deco 5 - Di Santo, Quaresma Seem about right? Alex - 8, Ivanovic -7, Belletti and Ferreira 5 tbh. And Peter Crouch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Wooo, cmon 20 million for Crouchie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Oh and who's going to be the poster guy for the Chelsea thread next season? The 2009/2010 Michael Essien thread sounds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonexile Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Would go nicely with my 08/09 CL Essien shirt... Still, it should clearly be the 09/10 Peter Crouch thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_man Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Lampard deserves it tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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