[FM23] All USA Pro Leagues w/ NCAA (NO PRO/REL) {UPDATE FOR 23.4}

[Gum]

I finished this file a month ago for personal use, but I realized that the majority of US files released for this game cycle so far are either messy/broken/barebones or exclude NCAA so I've decided to release this to the public.

This file is based off an old framework, which is @Palk and @owncredible's FM22 file released over a year ago that included NCAA D1 teams.

The 32,000+ changes include, but are not limited to:

• All professional leagues in the US tier system playable (decided not to touch USL2, too messy)
• NCAA D1 of course, with the playoff system mostly untouched from the Palk file
• Dozens of expansion teams across all leagues (some confirmed, some rumored)
• A new fake USL1, MLSNP, and NISA playoff system to better accommodate the added teams
• More realistic/accurate stadiums for the match engine (thanks to the hidden stadium editor!)
• Added new stadiums/training facilities for various teams
• Awards across all leagues
• Added academies to certain teams
• Other minor data changes like rival teams
• And more!

 

In this file I fixed a bug from Palk's FM22 file where a large chunk of NCAA teams from certain conferences weren't even being counted as NCAA/"USL2" teams and were therefore not having lower league US academy players "graduate" to them. This would then stall out these teams by reducing the quality of players they have, resulting in them not having any draft-worthy players after a certain period of time during long-term saves. I used @Uncle Sam's previous US files to help me fix this (something to do with child competitions I believe) and I hope he comes back for FM24 as any file he makes would be much much better than mine.

Sadly, for similar reasons as to why I did not add USL2 to this file, I have not been able to update the US Open Cup competition to accommodate the large amount of expansion teams in this file. This means certain teams will not be able to enter this competition if their league position is too low.

There are no registration rules for any leagues below MLS, due my observation that for some reason in this year's game compared to the last the AI in those leagues do not sign foreign players who have not played in the US before. My attempts to fix this issue by removing registration rules and changing team scouting packages have not seemed to work based on my tests, but I decided to keep it these changes in just in case. I haven't tested this post-winter update, so if this is fixed I will perhaps revert back.

Due to the amount of excruciating time it took for me to make this, updates will be very limited. However, if you find any major issues, please let me know and I will try to do my best to provide a solution.

WARNING: This file is incompatible with yellowsweatygorilla's Canadian Megapatch, as he decided to touch Vancouver 2 and Toronto II teams in this file and switch their leagues around, therefore breaking their compatibility with MLS Next Pro in this file. All you need to do to keep compatibility with this file is open his file with the pre-game editor, undo all the changes made to Vancouver 2 and Toronto II, and reverify the file.

EDIT: Updated file for 23.4. All credit goes to @Dallan and @Aljarov for this fix.

 

 

GUM USAE + MLSN.fmf

Edited May 17, 2023 by Gum
Added 23.4 file (fixed NCAA double entries)

[Gum]

Reserved.

[dino88]

hi mate, thanks so much. to confirm this is 99% accurate structure other than the USL1 league?

NCAA is correct structure?

[Gum]

3 hours ago, dino88 said:

hi mate, thanks so much. to confirm this is 99% accurate structure other than the USL1 league?

NCAA is correct structure?

I wouldn't call it 99% accurate, but I'd call it semi-realistic.

Like I mentioned in my post, NCAA is mostly unchanged from Palk and owncredible's FM22 file which is also based off of Uncle Sam's FM21 file so I do not know if it is still an accurate structure but all I know is that it works.

[dino88]

Thank you. Sorry to ask, what is non-realistic? I just want to be aware when I use it. 

Thank you so much 

[Gum]

1 hour ago, dino88 said:

Thank you. Sorry to ask, what is non-realistic? I just want to be aware when I use it. 

The lack of registration rules in league below MLS, certain defunct teams being readded to NISA to bolster the numbers, the playoff system in the bottom 3 leagues, and future transfers of less than a dozen real (non-noteworthy) players to various expansion teams that I was going to revert for this released file but did not find the time to.

[dino88]

OK cool. Thanks for getting this save out to the public, none others so far with NCAA. Is MLS Superdraft associated to the NCAA? players come from the universities? 

[Gum]

On 06/03/2023 at 08:56, dino88 said:

Is MLS Superdraft associated to the NCAA? players come from the universities? 

Yes.

[Maverik1828]

Are you able to make the academy teams playable

[meter]

Thanks for sharing.  Hopeful to hear the foreign signing issue gets sorted.  I plan on purchasing game finally and installing this to give a go.

[Fmfan00]

On 09/03/2023 at 02:20, Maverik1828 said:

Are you able to make the academy teams playable

if Mav cant i can ive done it several times

[Maverik1828]

@Fmfan00 that would be amazing if you could im looking at doing a save starting at an academy and working my way up to the mls 

[Marco Borghesi]

Guys can I ask a stupid question? I'm new to MLS and USL soccer in general. Why USL Championship isn't divided between Eastern and Western? On their website they are split

[Fmfan00]

On 12/03/2023 at 18:11, Maverik1828 said:

@Fmfan00 that would be amazing if you could im looking at doing a save starting at an academy and working my way up to the mls 

K I’ll take a look at the file tomorrow and see what can be done

[Gum]

On 13/03/2023 at 07:01, Marco Borghesi said:

Why USL Championship isn't divided between Eastern and Western?

They are?

[Marco Borghesi]

4 hours ago, Gum said:

They are?

oh good @Gum you are right ... I got confused by the beginning when you select the team that aren't separated 

[dino88]

Is anyone else getting this problem with Nashville?  

Edited March 23, 2023 by dino88

[Marco Borghesi]

yes i do ... i noticed just yesterday

 

[dino88]

does anyone know how to fix it?

[Marco Borghesi]

i don't know  

[Maverik1828]

On 18/03/2023 at 14:00, Fmfan00 said:

K I’ll take a look at the file tomorrow and see what can be done

Hey @Fmfan00 any luck adding the academy leagues?

[Fmfan00]

9 hours ago, Maverik1828 said:

Hey @Fmfan00 any luck adding the academy leagues?

i can add them but is it just basic stuff you guys want or what specific... also which file above should i me putting it into?

[EnigMattic1]

1 hour ago, Fmfan00 said:

i can add them but is it just basic stuff you guys want or what specific... also which file above should i me putting it into?

I would assume the first (GUMUSAE1.0) as the other is just a modified Canadian Megapatch in order for them to be compatible.

[dino88]

1 hour ago, Fmfan00 said:

i can add them but is it just basic stuff you guys want or what specific... also which file above should i me putting it into?

Is it possible to look into why Nashville is doing what it's doing as per my image slightly above?

[Maverik1828]

1 hour ago, Fmfan00 said:

i can add them but is it just basic stuff you guys want or what specific... also which file above should i me putting it into?

I just want to be able to manage the academy teams and work my way up through the league but also manage in the ncaa all the files available on have either ncaa or academy manageable none have both

[bielsadidnothingwrong]

Are there logo packs for the NCAA? 

[anitamui]

Update please

[BilbaoBaggins]

On 26/03/2023 at 13:50, EnigMattic1 said:

I would assume the first (GUMUSAE1.0) as the other is just a modified Canadian Megapatch in order for them to be compatible.

yeah basically this @Fmfan00

[bog20]

For some reason I didn't have the expansion draft playing as St Louis

Edited April 20, 2023 by bog20

[Al Clark]

The Superdraft is only making 18 selections too.  Not sure what has happened with MLS in the file, which is a shame. I'm looking for a US expansion file, and can't seem to find a clean one to play (MLS untouched, just activating the leagues for the D2/D3 leagues).

[Fmfan00]

On 23/04/2023 at 16:38, Aljarov said:

The Superdraft is only making 18 selections too.  Not sure what has happened with MLS in the file, which is a shame. I'm looking for a US expansion file, and can't seem to find a clean one to play (MLS untouched, just activating the leagues for the D2/D3 leagues).

I thought MLS has been broken for years

[KeegBCFC]

On 03/05/2023 at 05:26, Fmfan00 said:

I thought MLS has been broken for years

It has. 

[themodelcitizen]

CONCACAF in general was left to the wayside this year, as the programming gets more complex they just don't bother responding to bug reports for FM23

[Dallan]

On 23/04/2023 at 16:38, Aljarov said:

The Superdraft is only making 18 selections too.  Not sure what has happened with MLS in the file, which is a shame. I'm looking for a US expansion file, and can't seem to find a clean one to play (MLS untouched, just activating the leagues for the D2/D3 leagues).

For what it's worth, I'm running holiday tests using this file (the only change I made so far has been adding playable MLS Next academy leagues) and, while the 2023 draft only made 19 selections, the 2024 draft has made 31. I'll see what future years produce but I suspect that this may come down to MLS teams starting their "actually everyone here sucks, we're done" phase earlier than reality.

I'm also getting the Nashville bug, but I have a hunch about what's causing it that I'll try and investigate - I think it's related to their affiliation with their B team.

edit: yes, Nashville were accidentally flagged as the B team in their relationship with Huntsville, I've fixed that and will restart my test

If I can resolve both of these I'll share my updated file with this thread.

Edited May 9, 2023 by Dallan

[Dallan]

All right, looks like both issues are resolved. I THINK what was happening was that Nashville being set as a B team somehow disabled them choosing in the draft, so whenever their pick came up (which could be anywhere, depending on where they finished and what thhey traded away) the game would just throw up its hands and end the draft.

I hope OP doesn't mind my sharing a fixed version here, but if they do when they come back just let me know and I'll remove it. In the meantime, I'd hate to see their work go to waste for a tiny error so here we go:

 

 

 

Edited May 10, 2023 by Dallan
fille removed, use below version instead

[Dallan]

Thanks to @Aljarov for spotting additional bugs relating to missing MLS Next Pro affiliations with their related academies, and to starting as an MLS Next Pro team  (this one is my fault for removing a duplicate DB entry that turned out to be load-bearing). The attached version should fix them.

GUM USAE + MLSN.fmf

Edited May 10, 2023 by Dallan

[dino88]

this is still fictional right? last i remember usl one was not correct format or teams were different

 

[Dallan]

Everything from the OP is still true of my version except that MLS Next has been added and a few bugs have been fixed.

And even there it is not 100% accurate (in particular the playoff format does not match reality, and I'm sure there are teams in the wrong divisions, independent teams that are not present and should be or are present and should not be). That said I don't think we're exactly starved for choice among even vaguely realistic US databases this year.

Edited May 10, 2023 by Dallan

[dino88]

Really? I haven't seen a single file with new playoff rules + NCAA. 

[EnigMattic1]

4 hours ago, dino88 said:

Really? I haven't seen a single file with new playoff rules + NCAA. 

Dude, seriously. The American pyramid is one of the harder files to make due to a degree of hard coding regarding expansion sides and the drafts. Yeah, the draft setup may be a bit more relaxed this year given that the Canadian Premier League also has a draft, but creating a file that covers all the rules and having to add all the NCAA teams will take time.

A lot of people on here have social lives and jobs that take up a lot of time. If you want a file that covers the new playoff rule AND has NCAA, you will just have to be patient. NCAA I alone has around 218 teams that will require adding to the database and, given the number of conferences, that only serves to increase the number of errors that can get thrown up, especially when playoffs are concerned.

[dino88]

1 hour ago, EnigMattic1 said:

Dude, seriously. The American pyramid is one of the harder files to make due to a degree of hard coding regarding expansion sides and the drafts. Yeah, the draft setup may be a bit more relaxed this year given that the Canadian Premier League also has a draft, but creating a file that covers all the rules and having to add all the NCAA teams will take time.

A lot of people on here have social lives and jobs that take up a lot of time. If you want a file that covers the new playoff rule AND has NCAA, you will just have to be patient. NCAA I alone has around 218 teams that will require adding to the database and, given the number of conferences, that only serves to increase the number of errors that can get thrown up, especially when playoffs are concerned.

Who said I'm not patient? lol. Not sure what you're on about. 

I'm just responding to the previous message about there being an abundance of US files. 

[EnigMattic1]

17 minutes ago, dino88 said:

Who said I'm not patient? lol. Not sure what you're on about. 

I'm just responding to the previous message about there being an abundance of US files. 

There is something like 7 US files in the first 3 pages. Yes, some are fantasy or semi-realistic, but I have already mentioned the issues regarding US files. I had to take a break from creating mine because of some of those issues.

[Dallan]

That is actually my mistake, I meant to say "blessed for choice" because @dino88 is correct, there aren't many US databases this year that are even semi-realistic (that is the entire reason I am here fixing this one, because I would actually like to play this year and this is the closest file to what I wanted), and @EnigMattic1 is also correct, that is because it is a TON of work, getting it right requires skill with the advanced editor that very few people have, almost nobody with the skill has the time, and aiming for additional realism makes that part even worse.

Sorry for causing that little argument accidentally!

Also one more bugfix thanks to @Aljarov: this upload should fix the double history entries that were occurring for MLS Cup winners post 2025.

GUM USAE + MLSN.fmf

Edited May 13, 2023 by Dallan

[Gum]

2 hours ago, Dallan said:

That is actually my mistake, I meant to say "blessed for choice" because @dino88 is correct, there aren't many US databases this year that are even semi-realistic (that is the entire reason I am here fixing this one, because I would actually like to play this year and this is the closest file to what I wanted), and @EnigMattic1 is also correct, that is because it is a TON of work, getting it right requires skill with the advanced editor that very few people have, almost nobody with the skill has the time, and aiming for additional realism makes that part even worse.

Sorry for causing that little argument accidentally!

Also one more bugfix thanks to @Aljarov: this upload should fix the double history entries that were occurring for MLS Cup winners post 2025.

GUM USAE + MLSN.fmf 433.19 kB · 1 download

Thank you for this. I haven't (and probably won't in the future) had any time to test my file post-winter update, so I assume that winter update is what messed a lot of things up. I'll replace my file in the OP with this one and credit you.

[Jesus Bot]

Hi! Any way to fix the double history entries for NCAA? 

[Dallan]

2 hours ago, Jesus Bot said:

Hi! Any way to fix the double history entries for NCAA? 

Not sure what you mean - the way that the NCAA championship puts history entries in both "NCAA D1" and "NCAA College Cup"?

[Jesus Bot]

4 minutes ago, Dallan said:

Not sure what you mean - the way that the NCAA championship puts history entries in both "NCAA D1" and "NCAA College Cup"?

OH - I meant this:

Is the reason why there are double entries because one shows for D1 and the other for College Cup? Interesting.  

[Dallan]

That's why, yes. The rules add the College Cup winner as a history entry for both D1 and the College Cup, but unlike with the MLS conferences/Supporters' Shield, the College Cup winner is also listed in Past Winners on the main summary page. Probably the best way to deal with it is to do the same thing as MLS - only add the one history entry to the "cup" competition.

I wasn't looking for that and didn't spot it but I've fixed it and it's below

GUM USAE + MLSN.fmf

Edited May 15, 2023 by Dallan

[Jesus Bot]

2 hours ago, Dallan said:

That's why, yes. The rules add the College Cup winner as a history entry for both D1 and the College Cup, but unlike with the MLS conferences/Supporters' Shield, the College Cup winner is also listed in Past Winners on the main summary page. Probably the best way to deal with it is to do the same thing as MLS - only add the one history entry to the "cup" competition.

I wasn't looking for that and didn't spot it but I've fixed it and it's below

GUM USAE + MLSN.fmf 433.24 kB · 3 downloads

Was the fix simply removing the second Add History stage action (for NCAA D1, while keeping the NCAA College Cup) from Stage 17?

Or were there other changes made? Asking since I made my own edits to the save moving some US clubs around into the different leagues (like reactivating Chivas USA and moving them to the MLS instead of San Diego Loyal which stayed in the USL Championship + swapping the new USLC clubs with those from NISA and USL1 because they didn't have picture packs). Bit of a pain to have to do that again, so I was hoping to do make the edits to my own DB. 

Thank you!

[Dallan]

That was the change, yes. There were some other cosmetic things I noticed while I was there but that was the important one.