[FM22] England down to Level 10 Now available for download

[lionel messi]

I think i have fixed the playoffs issue for the Vanarama National North/South.

I will know after the current test im doing if it is ok or not.

 

Later i will try sorting Level 7-9 if all is ok with Vanarama Leagues.

Edited December 19, 2021 by lionel messi

[Groom84]

19 hours ago, lionel messi said:

Not all at Level 10 do but most.

After the 1st season there is not many Level 10 teams in the FA Cup

 

8 hours ago, FCUtdWill said:

There should only be 9 clubs from Level 10 taking part in the FA Cup this season. The high majority of them are playing in the FA Vase.

I’ve checked my records, no team from the Spartan South Midlands League Division One are in the FA Cup this season; only Kidlington Reserves, Letchworth Garden City Eagles, Raunds Town and Thame United Reserves are not playing in the FA Vase.

 

So then I was lucky with my London Tigers =)

Always good with extra cash.

[andydick]

35 minutes ago, Groom84 said:

 

 

So then I was lucky with my London Tigers =)

Always good with extra cash.

 

In real life, only 9 Level 10 clubs were in the extra preliminary round of the FA Cup, but many many more were in FM22's extra preliminary round - most of the teams from my division (Northern Division 2) were in the FA Cup.

 

[lionel messi]

16 minutes ago, andydick said:

 

In real life, only 9 Level 10 clubs were in the extra preliminary round of the FA Cup, but many many more were in FM22's extra preliminary round - most of the teams from my division (Northern Division 2) were in the FA Cup.

 

I could fix this to make it like real if everyone wants, there is 954 teams in my FA Cup in 1st season.

In 2nd season and beyond there is 796 teams in my FA Cup.

 

[lionel messi]

1 hour ago, Groom84 said:

 

 

So then I was lucky with my London Tigers =)

Always good with extra cash.

Yes you got lucky.

[FCUtdWill]

8 minutes ago, lionel messi said:

I could fix this to make it like real if everyone wants, there is 954 teams in my FA Cup in 1st season.

In 2nd season and beyond there is 796 teams in my FA Cup.

 

Still more than there is in real life for both seasons. Why do you add more teams to the competition than there is? (Not having a go at you here, it's something I've always wondered)

[lionel messi]

14 minutes ago, FCUtdWill said:

Still more than there is in real life for both seasons. Why do you add more teams to the competition than there is? (Not having a go at you here, it's something I've always wondered)

Thanks for your feedback.

Just to try and stop alot of Level 10 clubs getting into massive debt.

There is 729 teams in the real FA Cup this season, how do you choose which 9 clubs get into the FA Cup from Level 10?

 

What about FA Cup 2022-23?

How many teams?

Some leagues have increased number of teams in them also from Level 5+

Edited December 19, 2021 by lionel messi

[FCUtdWill]

1 minute ago, lionel messi said:

Thanks for your feedback.

Just to try and stop alot of Level 10 clubs getting into massive debt.

There is 729 teams in the real FA Cup this season, how do you choose which 9 clubs get into the FA Cup from Level 10?

 

What about FA Cup 2022-23?

How many teams?

Make them have a bit more money at game start, they shouldn't go into massive debts.

As the 9 clubs are in 9 divisions, add the division and only choose one team from it, it'll be a random selection. Guernsey don't play in the FA Cup, so you can either add them or use another division from Level 10 to get that team.

For next season and beyond, base it on this season. I imagine it'll be a few more than this season but I don't have the exact numbers.

[lionel messi]

17 minutes ago, FCUtdWill said:

Make them have a bit more money at game start, they shouldn't go into massive debts.

As the 9 clubs are in 9 divisions, add the division and only choose one team from it, it'll be a random selection. Guernsey don't play in the FA Cup, so you can either add them or use another division from Level 10 to get that team.

For next season and beyond, base it on this season. I imagine it'll be a few more than this season but I don't have the exact numbers.

I will have a look into doing it at some point.

Im trying to correct the playoffs at the moment.

[andydick]

1 hour ago, lionel messi said:

I could fix this to make it like real if everyone wants, there is 954 teams in my FA Cup in 1st season.

In 2nd season and beyond there is 796 teams in my FA Cup.

 

I like the idea of playing in the extra preliminary round with a level 10 side so I wouldn't necessarily change it.  I think the only issue is you end up with too many teams in the earlier rounds (preliminary, 1st round qualifying etc) which means you have to bring in higher ranked teams (level 7, 8 etc) earlier than in real life so you can eliminate more of them to get to to the final 32 by the end of the 4th Qualifying Round.

It's a bit of extra income too - in most cases a managed team is going to get beyond the extra preliminary round so that's a guaranteed £1125 for winning plus £481 if you are knocked out next round. 

 

Edited December 19, 2021 by andydick

[lionel messi]

17 minutes ago, andydick said:

I like the idea of playing in the extra preliminary round with a level 10 side so I wouldn't necessarily change it.  I think the only issue is you end up with too many teams in the earlier rounds (preliminary, 1st round qualifying etc) which means you have to bring in higher ranked teams (level 7, 8 etc) earlier than in real life so you can eliminate more of them to get to to the final 32 by the end of the 4th Qualifying Round.

It's a bit of extra income too - in most cases a managed team is going to get beyond the extra preliminary round so that's a guaranteed £1125 for winning plus £481 if you are knocked out next round. 

 

Yes Level 7 teams.

In my FA Cup 2022-23 No Level 7 teams should enter until the 1st qualifying round so it should just be 1st season only.

[lionel messi]

*Update on Playoffs fix*

Vanarama National League - Working how it should.

Vanarama National League North/South - 1st round correct, semi-final/final not working how it should yet, picking wrong teams to play & wrong teams at home.

Regional Premier Divisions - semi-final correct teams playing each other & correct teams being at home, final picking wrong team to be at home in some leagues.

Regional 1st Divisions - semi-final correct teams playing each other & correct teams being at home, final picking wrong team to be at home in some leagues.

County Leagues - semi-final correct teams playing each other & correct teams being at home, final picking wrong team to be at home in some leagues.

[andydick]

There are a number of people reporting bugs with the play-offs so personally I wouldn't spend time in the editor.  Hopefully SI will acknowledge the bug and provide a fix asap.

EDIT: I've just ran a simulation on the vanilla game, latest patch, no-addons/expansions and I get the same error with Vanarama North/South.  I've updated the thread on the bugs forum with screenshots etc.

 

Edited December 20, 2021 by andydick

[craigw87]

Hi

 

Is there likely to be a Step 11 released? 

Looking to play this league https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County_Football_League  as Brentham

[lionel messi]

13 minutes ago, craigw87 said:

Hi

 

Is there likely to be a Step 11 released? 

Looking to play this league https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County_Football_League  as Brentham

I wont be working on a Level 11 file.

fcutdwill is working on a Level 11 file.

[FCUtdWill]

21 minutes ago, lionel messi said:

fcutdwill is working on a Level 11 file.

And lower

[lionel messi]

9 hours ago, andydick said:

There are a number of people reporting bugs with the play-offs so personally I wouldn't spend time in the editor.  Hopefully SI will acknowledge the bug and provide a fix asap.

EDIT: I've just ran a simulation on the vanilla game, latest patch, no-addons/expansions and I get the same error with Vanarama North/South.  I've updated the thread on the bugs forum with screenshots etc.

 

I have fixed Level 7.

Level 7 is now working correctly.

I should be able to fix Level 8 & 9 now by applying the same rules.

 

 

 

 

All Level 7 Leagues worked correctly by altering a setting.

 

[Zapoleon]

Wow nice great work!

[lionel messi]

I now have Level 8 working correctly & currently doing Level 9.

There is no reason why level 9 should be any problem.

[gmilitao_scr]

Nice work, Messi. Waiting for the fixed file to start my save.

[Fmfan00]

Since Lionel is working on a fix had a quick question for someone in here… I have a favourite VNN tea and being from Canada I want to put them in level 10 and play as them in level 10… my question is level 10 amateur or semiprofessional?

[lionel messi]

4 minutes ago, gmilitao_scr said:

Nice work, Messi. Waiting for the fixed file to start my save.

I have got the playoffs at levels 7-9 all working correctly now.

Hopefully i can sort the playoffs at levels 5 & 6 now.

[Groom84]

Just a small question regarding contract negotiations (amateur) for players:

If I'm;

just a little bit below wage budget and
I still have around 10k£/$ in transfer money left and
have quite a lot of cash in my budget
>> am I still restricted from signing players?

 

Right now, I can't offer players any bonuses at all (all locked at 10 in X currency) for the amateur 0 wage contract.

(below in SEK currency.)

 

I can only offer:

 

Which is like 0 for the players, and ofc they reject.

 

(PS: My board refuses to raise wage budget)

[lionel messi]

6 minutes ago, Groom84 said:

Just a small question regarding contract negotiations (amateur) for players:

If I'm;

just a little bit below wage budget and
I still have around 10k£/$ in transfer money left and
have quite a lot of cash in my budget
>> am I still restricted from signing players?

 

Right now, I can't offer players any bonuses at all (all locked at 10 in X currency) for the amateur 0 wage contract.

(below in SEK currency.)

 

I can only offer:

 

Which is like 0 for the players, and ofc they reject.

 

(PS: My board refuses to raise wage budget)

Try adjuting budgets, put your transfer budget into wage budget.

[Fmfan00]

1 hour ago, lionel messi said:

I have got the playoffs at levels 7-9 all working correctly now.

Hopefully i can sort the playoffs at levels 5 & 6 now.

was it updated yet or not yet? just so i know to start my file or not

[Groom84]

3 minutes ago, lionel messi said:

Try adjuting budgets, put your transfer budget into wage budget.

Allready maxed, took from scout budget as well:

 

I haven't bought any players this first season.

[lionel messi]

3 minutes ago, Fmfan00 said:

was it updated yet or not yet? just so i know to start my file or not

No its not updated yet.

Im trying to sort the playoffs out at level 6

[lionel messi]

1 minute ago, Groom84 said:

Allready maxed, took from scout budget as well:

 

I haven't bought any players this first season.

You could put your scouting budget into tranfer budget.

Then put your transfer budget into wage budget.

[Groom84]

Just now, lionel messi said:

You could put your scouting budget into tranfer budget.

Then put your transfer budget into wage budget.

That's what I did.

I don't think I have any other way to increaase my wage budget.

But is the bonuses counted towards wages?

It's strange, how can the game know how many appearence a player will have each month?

[lionel messi]

11 minutes ago, Groom84 said:

That's what I did.

I don't think I have any other way to increaase my wage budget.

But is the bonuses counted towards wages?

It's strange, how can the game know how many appearence a player will have each month?

You may have to try getting rid of a few players then, any on higher wages compared to the rest of the quad.

Any reserves or u-18s that you dont need.

You could also try reducing your backroom staff.

[Groom84]

20 minutes ago, lionel messi said:

You may have to try getting rid of a few players then, any on higher wages compared to the rest of the quad.

Any reserves or u-18s that you dont need.

You could also try reducing your backroom staff.

Backroom staff and U23 & U18 are done.

I have one player in high wage. I will try to offload him.

 

Thank you!

[craigw87]

20 hours ago, lionel messi said:

I wont be working on a Level 11 file.

fcutdwill is working on a Level 11 file.

Thank you will keep an eye out!

[Dan_987]

14 hours ago, Groom84 said:

But is the bonuses counted towards wages?

It's strange, how can the game know how many appearence a player will have each month?

Pretty sure they are worked out on playing time status, Key Player, First Team, Squad, Backup etc. 

[Chas (Psyatika)]

Is the prize money for the FA Cup correct? The prize money stated in the competition rules seems strange.

The winner prize money keeps going up every round, but the loser prize money stays the same for every round from 4th qualifying round all the way to the 5th round proper.

Edited December 21, 2021 by Chas (Psyatika)

[andydick]

39 minutes ago, Chas (Psyatika) said:

Is the prize money for the FA Cup correct? The prize money stated in the competition rules seems strange.

The winner prize money keeps going up every round, but the loser prize money stays the same for every round from 4th qualifying round all the way to the 5th round proper.

Losing prize money is only paid up to the 4th Qualifying Round and then the semis and final.  No losing money is paid from the 1st round proper upto and including the quarter finals.

[lionel messi]

37 minutes ago, andydick said:

Losing prize money is only paid up to the 4th Qualifying Round and then the semis and final.  No losing money is paid from the 1st round proper upto and including the quarter finals.

I have not set any prize money for losers after the 4th Qualifying round up until the semi-final, i have just been on my save and looked in rules and noticed there is prize money for losers.

Its only £3,125 so wont make that much difference to those already deep into a save.

I think i can remember this happening on my file last year too.

I have gone in and set it at £0 now after the 4th qualifying round up until the semi-final so should not come up.

Will be fixed in next update.

Edited December 22, 2021 by lionel messi

[Fmfan00]

2 hours ago, lionel messi said:

I have not set any prize money for losers after the 4th Qualifying round up until the semi-final, i have just been on my save and looked in rules and noticed there is prize money for losers.

Its only £3,125 so wont make that much difference to those already deep into a save.

I think i can remember this happening on my file last year too.

I have gone in and set it at £0 now after the 4th qualifying round up until the semi-final so should not come up.

Will be fixed in next update.

Is the same still ok to use or should 8 wait for update with playoff fix

[KodjiaMaster]

On 20/12/2021 at 16:35, lionel messi said:

I wont be working on a Level 11 file.

fcutdwill is working on a Level 11 file.

when roughly will this be done?  @FCUtdWill

[lionel messi]

8 hours ago, Fmfan00 said:

Is the same still ok to use or should 8 wait for update with playoff fix

It is still ok to use.

Im still trying to sort the playoff issue out at Level 5&6.

There is also a slight issue with FA Cup prize money, from 4th Qualifying round up to semi-final where there should be no prize money for losers but they are getting just over £3000.

[FCUtdWill]

20 minutes ago, KodjiaMaster said:

when roughly will this be done?  @FCUtdWill

A few weeks or so, I’m still doing research, I’ll be making a thread when it’s ready

[KodjiaMaster]

10 minutes ago, FCUtdWill said:

A few weeks or so, I’m still doing research, I’ll be making a thread when it’s ready

sounds good

[funnylittlefrog]

Are there play offs at level 10 in this file, as there are in real life at that level this season?

[lionel messi]

35 minutes ago, funnylittlefrog said:

Are there play offs at level 10 in this file, as there are in real life at that level this season?

No there are no playoffs at Level 10 on this file.

I did not want to over complicate things and get the right numbers in all the leagues from level 5 to 9.

I have got the numbers working fine with 20 teams in each level 9 league after the 1st season.

[lionel messi]

Playoffs update vanarama leagues.

I now have the playoffs 1st round and final working correctly.

Semi finals they are playing correct teams but sometimes the highest seeded team is not playing at home in latest test.

[wwffan2]

first season finished, fantastic performances, shocked by amount of goals scored by these three listed.

how did you all get on first season

 

Edited December 22, 2021 by wwffan2
uploaded wrong image

[gmilitao_scr]

48 minutos atrás, lionel messi disse:

Playoffs update vanarama leagues.

I now have the playoffs 1st round and final working correctly.

Semi finals they are playing correct teams but sometimes the highest seeded team is not playing at home in latest test.

Much more to do in the file before the update?

[Fmfan00]

2 hours ago, wwffan2 said:

first season finished, fantastic performances, shocked by amount of goals scored by these three listed.

how did you all get on first season

 

Courious to see what formation u went to get 154 goals.

[lionel messi]

2 hours ago, gmilitao_scr said:

Much more to do in the file before the update?

No its just a case of sorting that little playoff issue out.

I dont think there are any other issues.

[wwffan2]

7 hours ago, Fmfan00 said:

Courious to see what formation u went to get 154 goals.

This was the formation I used and here is the team.

 

[Fmfan00]

Just debating if I wanna work with current file or wait tough choices damn lol