Nelson84 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 MLS is a complicated system as it's based on franchise, like pretty much everything in the North American sports world... hopefully someday they'll understand that you can't hope to be competitive by changing virtually your whole roster every year and neglecting continental competitions lol (that's how you get kicked out by teams from T&T or Panama). Regarding the game itself, those license issues are what makes MLS one of the least re-playable leagues. Because so many things change from one year to another ! New teams, defunct ones, ... The only time I finished a season in MLS was when I switched one of the teams for Montreal lol... and even then, I had to edit my team and give USA as a second nation to all my players. I pray for USL and CSL to be included some day soon lol looking at TFC roster, I think the only way to actually win competitions with more than two Canadian players on the pitch is to play in the Canadian league ... or with the Impact or Vancouver in the USL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflaff Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 @ Miles and SI: Thanks for continuing to try and get MLS right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
c10ckw0rk Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 I pray for USL and CSL to be included some day soon lol I think USL should be included but it will take a lot of time before they add CSL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson84 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Maybe when the competition's winner is admitted into the newly founded Canadian Championship ! Right now the teams that compete for the national title are Montreal and Vancouver from the USL and Toronto from MLS... the winner of the national league can't even participate in the competition that names the Canadian national champion. That means if you play in the CSL, you can only play CSL games... no way for you to play in continental cups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaroq Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Sounds like a simple fix - put the CSL champion in there with the big three, and you've got a nicer competition format with four clubs for either knock-out or group play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicki Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I hope the USL will be added, because they are almost the only clubs you can send players on loan to (As a MLS team) and they only play matches in the preseason so you players will not get any better, infact they get better if you let them stay on your reserve team as it is right now, if SI will not add the USL, atleast make them play matches vs each other so you can loan out players and see some improvements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
c10ckw0rk Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I hope Canada is gonna have a spot in CONCACAF Champion's League as Montreal Impact won their first group phase game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uclazy31 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 MLS needed a lot of work. It is so different from the rest of the footballing world that to make it realistic probably takes more code than any other league. One thing about it though is that if it gets sorted properly it will become a real challenge for football manager fans. the restrictions on who you can sign and the draft make it real tough. English fans might do well to pay attention to the mls because i think it is very likely that the prem league ends up in a franchise model in the next ten years. There is too much money at stake for the big teams to risk relegation. Your going to see a set number of teams at maybe 18-20 in the bpl. Those teams will then set up deals with the lower league teams and set up farm systems like mlb has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromthemachine Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Definitely one of the most challenging leagues to stay on top of. Good work, SI. Now give a little love to the draft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick1408 Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 will some of the changes with the mls also be replicated in the A-League which has some of the same rules (designated player etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leezoid Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Thanks SI for the extra effort that has been made on MLS this year, it's the only league I really play so I hope to have more fun playing FM09 than I did with FM08! Any chance of confirming if the problem with developmental contracts (i.e. becoming 'senior developmental' after a year-which doesn't happen IRL) has been dealt with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seller Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 If SI added the ability to "increase and add" teams to a league via an editor then we could just take care of the expansion ourselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DvOLUTiOn Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I'd love to be able to play in teh USL as well, imo the MSL is dumb and should crash and burn lol (ok maybe not). But the MLS ruling winds that league. Uclazy, the teams that have something to loose itn eh peremiership won't go down anyways because they earn too much money and thus have too much quality players to be relegated. They doesn't need an american model, their system has been working for well over 100 years, it has proved itself as a working model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
podoooo Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Good to hear about these changes. MLS is a great league to play in, just a shame about the problems in past FMs (e.g. teams releasing their best players, terrible players in the draft etc.). Hopefully these are all fixed/improved on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beware Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I'm really pleased that there will be changes in the MLS. Still hoping (But sadly doubting...) that the USL will be there, but I'll take whats given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGLiverpool Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 i was managing new england revolution in 2017, and i happened to get this american guy in the draft, who scored 38 goals in my unbeaten season, i was 4 seasons undefeated, not the hardest league, he got into american team and became legendary but i am happy there are improvements this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7CHP Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I have two simple, perhaps dumb questions, but they need answers too! First, the usual: I've been playing this game since CM03/04, 7 seasons+ network back then. Since I've been hooked, buying CM or FM on the release day (or earlier), so I'm addicted. But now I have an issue. I have moved from Norway to the US, and here the local retailers are selling World Wide Soccer Manager 2009 from November 1st. Is the WWSM09 the same as FM09? I have also switched to Mac (don't ask, it is NOT better, rather equally crappy) - will my MacBook Pro running WWSM09 be compatible for network gaming with my Norwegian friends who run PC and FM09? Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Lionel Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 So have you done anything to make it so that regens have halfway decent ca's? This is by far the biggest problem with the MLS in FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-united fan Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 is the american wonderkid charles renken in the game?because freddy adu was at that age! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-united fan Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 is the wonderkid charles renken in the game because freddy adu was at that age! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Freddy Adu was drafted and played in the MLS at that age though. Charles hasn't (yet) been drafted though. Still at Residency iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-united fan Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Freddy Adu was drafted and played in the MLS at that age though. Charles hasn't (yet) been drafted though. Still at Residency iirc. was he not in championship manager 4 as a free agent?correct me if im wrong! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGLiverpool Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I have two simple, perhaps dumb questions, but they need answers too!First, the usual: I've been playing this game since CM03/04, 7 seasons+ network back then. Since I've been hooked, buying CM or FM on the release day (or earlier), so I'm addicted. But now I have an issue. I have moved from Norway to the US, and here the local retailers are selling World Wide Soccer Manager 2009 from November 1st. Is the WWSM09 the same as FM09? I have also switched to Mac (don't ask, it is NOT better, rather equally crappy) - will my MacBook Pro running WWSM09 be compatible for network gaming with my Norwegian friends who run PC and FM09? Thank you 1. I believe WWSM09 is the same game as FM09, just a different title perhaps different wording but nothing drastic 2. I presume a network game will be the same, its the exact same game just a different title the make of your computer wont affect things either, its one big world, not everyone runs on the windows or mac do they? but you get your game 2 weeks earlier, nice one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSCCG Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Can you tell us about any improvements in youth development? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
looknohands Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Will there be any tweaks made to the squads/numbering? Namely, will we be able to choose whether or not to place a player or Injured Reserve? MLS rules dictate that a player on IR can't be waived, that his salary must still be paid (though not counting against the cap) and, most importantly, a roster spot is opened up to sign a replacement. For instance I just played a season and my best striker was injured in August and was out for 4 months, meaning he missed the rest of the season. In real life, I could have signed a replacement for him, but with my roster already at 28 players I had to carry on the rest of the season short a man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkstier Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Also, how will the developing youth academies of the MLS be worked into the game? As it stands now the only way to get American players is via the draft.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jeff Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 This thread hasn't exactly filled me with confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leezoid Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 This thread hasn't exactly filled me with confidence. It would be nice to have some of these questions answered, but the very existence of this thread leads me to believe that SI have listened to the problems about MLS in FM08 and are attempting to do something about it.... ...fingers crossed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themoffster Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 This thread hasn't exactly filled me with confidence. None of these official threads have filled me with confidence. Posting them so soon, then nobody from SI taking thetime to answer the series of questions makes me question them. If they are so busy, why bother to post them so soon before the blogs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Will there be expansions in the new version ie Seattle Sounders joining in '09, and Philly in 2010? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaroq Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Will there be expansions in the new version ie Seattle Sounders joining in '09, and Philly in 2010? No - SI have explained previously that the way the MLS sells its license, that is not possible. The license is apparently for the league as it stands at the specific season licensed for. Its a real shame, honestly - I think its a bit short-sighted, actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Al Clark Posted October 9, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted October 9, 2008 There's actually more to this than Miles has indicated (a good thing!)...lots of time to go through them all. Plenty of improvements in MLS this coming version, as well as a clean up on the issues that were around for FM08. There's a ton of stuff in here...I'm sure lots will be elaborated on in the very near future. But yeah, squad related issues like numbering, waivers, contracts, trades and other things have received a lot of attention. For the person askign about Renken - he can't be in until he signs a pro deal with the league or abroad. He's an amateur athlete and there's all sorts of issues relating to that. I'd love Seattle's expansion to be in, but it's been said many times - the license doesn't cover it. MLS is going to be miles better this year with some really key additions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritik Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 it's frustrating not to have any more news... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanricouk Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Will SI make a short description in game, or the booklet on how the MLS works? All this talk about waivers, drafts and first picks etc goes right over my head when I try to play, so just turn it off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solstar Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 The US run footbal, yes football just like Basketball and they're both a world away from each other. How do you trade? who with? The whole process is bizarre, I've seen players 4 yrs at a club where the message still reads "1st draft pick option held by Kansas". How? He's been gone for 4 years!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
c10ckw0rk Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 It maybe just means that this player was a 1st draft pick in 199X... Anyway, I just hope that USL is gonna be included, Montréal Impact gonna be in CONCACAF Champion's League Quarter Finals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaroq Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Will SI make a short description in game, or the booklet on how the MLS works? All this talk about waivers, drafts and first picks etc goes right over my head when I try to play, so just turn it off. Alijarov used to have a great little "MLS Short Guide" - I don't know where its hosted, now, but it would be great if he could donate that to SI so SI could include it in-game in some way. If you can find it, it did an excellent job of explaining all the vagaries of the MLS system, some of which are pretty obscure even to Americans familiar with the other U.S. sports leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meter Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 There's actually more to this than Miles has indicated (a good thing!)...lots of time to go through them all.Plenty of improvements in MLS this coming version, as well as a clean up on the issues that were around for FM08. There's a ton of stuff in here...I'm sure lots will be elaborated on in the very near future. But yeah, squad related issues like numbering, waivers, contracts, trades and other things have received a lot of attention. For the person askign about Renken - he can't be in until he signs a pro deal with the league or abroad. He's an amateur athlete and there's all sorts of issues relating to that. I'd love Seattle's expansion to be in, but it's been said many times - the license doesn't cover it. MLS is going to be miles better this year with some really key additions. Concacaf Champions League?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
c10ckw0rk Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 CONCACAF Champions League is in. I think it has been already said... but it's written on Wikipedia anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritik Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 won't be much fun though because of all inactive leagues represented in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCSUltra Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Any idea of when/if the USL leagues will become playable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Al Clark Posted October 13, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted October 13, 2008 Will SI make a short description in game, or the booklet on how the MLS works? All this talk about waivers, drafts and first picks etc goes right over my head when I try to play, so just turn it off. I usually make an MLS Player's Guide...and plan to again this version. My new affiliate site is unlikely to be up and running so I'll find somewhere to host it. You're right, the rules are CONFUSING...the guide helps... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Al Clark Posted October 14, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted October 14, 2008 I really wish the USL was in, but it's not in this version either. Best advice I can give is all those that want USL in to make as much noise as possible...Lord knows I've been championing the cause since I got involved as HR. In my opinion it's the most needed feature to make the US/MLS gaming experience complete and rounded...the lack of the USL stiffles the opportunity to play any kind of LLM. Having the USL in would also add playable teams in Puerto Rico, Bermuda and triple the number of playable Canadian teams, not to mention adding major US market teams like Seattle, Miami, Minnesota, Portland etc.... Maybe someone (other than me) should start a petition or something? That would be a good way to show that there really is support in numbers for the idea and not just a few squeaky wheels? Anyone up for getting the ball rolling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
c10ckw0rk Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I really wish the USL was in, but it's not in this version either. NooOooo!!! I'm sad now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
looknohands Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I'd much prefer SI really get a handle on the MLS before trying to add the USL. The improvements being implemented sound good now, but I'll have a hard time forgetting how terrible the league was in the first two versions of 08, considering the league in 07 was workable (drafts excluded, of course!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaroq Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I usually make an MLS Player's Guide...and plan to again this version. My new affiliate site is unlikely to be up and running so I'll find somewhere to host it. You're right, the rules are CONFUSING...the guide helps A LOT... Corrected, my friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
looknohands Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Will Toronto have the extra international slots they received for the 08 season? They were bumped up to 16 (including Americans) once they realized there wasn't enough talent being produced in Canada. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaLoneGun Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I am wondering what Jozy Altidore will be rated in potential quality this year with Villareal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGa70 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I'd much prefer SI really get a handle on the MLS before trying to add the USL. The improvements being implemented sound good now, but I'll have a hard time forgetting how terrible the league was in the first two versions of 08, considering the league in 07 was workable (drafts excluded, of course!) Actually, USL has many advantages over MLS 1. Easy structure 2. No draft 3. No salary cap 4. Lax foreigner rule If anything USL WILL generate more interest because many Europeans will have no problem managing in it, since the rules are very simple. Too bad SI dropped this league - it used to be in CM01/02 if I recall correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritik Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I am wondering what Jozy Altidore will be rated in potential quality this year with Villareal this is irrelevant to MLS issues since he left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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