cms186 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 youd have paid more than 20k for Chris Cohen in the end wouldnt you? paid an undisclosed for for him plus I think 20% of the fee you got off us for him, which i think was technically 200k, so thats 40k right there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazRTaylor Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 youd have paid more than 20k for Chris Cohen in the end wouldnt you? paid an undisclosed for for him plus I think 20% of the fee you got off us for him, which i think was technically 200k, so thats 40k right there! He was a free signing with a 20% sell on clause. Sure, he eventually cost £40,000 but that hardly counts when we never paid that up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftism Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Hopefully Northampton can come up from League 2, really should be a very midland heavy league next year. MK Dons, Peterborough, Northampton, Notts, Wolves, Walsall, Shrewsbury, Port Vale, Coventry and Crewe (sort-of). Everything below Crewe is Midlands. Everything above is North. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB_1990 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 They can't stop showing our moment on TV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 He was a free signing with a 20% sell on clause. Sure, he eventually cost £40,000 but that hardly counts when we never paid that up front. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/y/yeovil/5111112.stm says you paid a fee for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Everything below Crewe is Midlands. Everything above is North. Which are you then? Tbh I find the idea of Stoke/Port Vale being midlands pretty suspect really. They're very much northern in all but name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftism Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Most people in Crewe identify themselves as "Northerners" - Cheshire considers itself Northern. Very posh Northern in places, but still... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazRTaylor Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/y/yeovil/5111112.stm says you paid a fee for him The report is wrong. Not the first time a journalist gets things wrong, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Yeah I'd certainly consider Cheshire to be northern on a whole but you're practically in Staffordshire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftism Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Stoke is a good half hour away, even more thanks to the combined efforts of the M6 and the A500 to be crappy highways... :x We're nowhere near it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Aha! Shoes off etc ... "Light years ahead" "mind the gap" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 I don't know why you've got a sad smiley face for being nowhere near Stoke! Anyway as I said I don't really consider Staffordshire proper Midlands. But for the purpose of it being a Midlands centric league I think Crewe and Port Vale can be included because the point is they aren't that far away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssestig Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Nothing wrong with being further away from Staffordshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Nothing wrong with being further away from Staffordshire Exactly my point Looking forward to a lot more nearby away trips. Hopefully Yeovil go up as well because it's by far the longest southern ground to get to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 The report is wrong. Not the first time a journalist gets things wrong, eh? do you have any proof for him being wrong? either way, the price you agreed with west ham included a sell on fee, thats part of what you paid to get the player ( and would have been more if Forest hadnt agreed to pay you less for Cohen and more for Davies to get around you having to give West Ham more money, not that i have a problem with screwing bigger teams out of money ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 So you are saying if Yeovil signed a bloke on a free transfer with a 50% sell on clause who they later sold for £2 million then their record transfer fee would be £1 million? I wouldn't agree with that at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Whippy Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I heard you're getting rid of the away terrace this summer? There's been nothing final yet, but it'll be gone soon. I personally like the terracing, but the stadium does need to be modernised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 On the plus side that might mean we get a more modern set of facilities? Safe to say your away end is a bit of a dump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_neil41 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 So you are saying if Yeovil signed a bloke on a free transfer with a 50% sell on clause who they later sold for £2 million then their record transfer fee would be £1 million? I wouldn't agree with that at all. It's a tough one, if the clauses are met some people would suggest that's how much a player has cost you. We spent around £250k on Simon Walton yet by the time he left had cost us around £500-550k and could've cost more, does that make him our record transfer fee or do you count the £250k? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazRTaylor Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 do you have any proof for him being wrong? either way, the price you agreed with west ham included a sell on fee, thats part of what you paid to get the player ( and would have been more if Forest hadnt agreed to pay you less for Cohen and more for Davies to get around you having to give West Ham more money, not that i have a problem with screwing bigger teams out of money ) Not that I will disclose on here, no. But I know for a fact he was a free signing. So you are saying if Yeovil signed a bloke on a free transfer with a 50% sell on clause who they later sold for £2 million then their record transfer fee would be £1 million? I wouldn't agree with that at all. Thank you, someone gets it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Whippy Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 On the plus side that might mean we get a more modern set of facilities? Safe to say your away end is a bit of a dump Yes, it'll mean by (And if we're still in League 1) by 2014 (potentially) you'll have 2,500 seats to sit down on. They also want to redevelop the London Road stand, which, personally is a horrific stand to sit in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Is that the one with a bit of an away end in? I had to go in there once (we sold out the terracing) and the seating was horrific, weren't allowed to stand either because all the standing people were in the terraces Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Whippy Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Yeah, there's a very small seating bit for away fans to go to the right of the terracing. I'm guessing that'll be extended (Ha!) when they start redeveloping Moys End, enjoy that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjani'sBootCleaner Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Are Brentford players told specifically to incite the crowd after every goal or something? Harlee Dean just being a **** there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazRTaylor Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 1-0 to Brentford. Not quite sure why Harlee Dean felt the need to taunt the Swindon fans. These things have a habit of coming back to bite you on the backside! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Yeah that stand is really awful, bit of development wouldn't be a bad thing at all. Terrible goal that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Swindon really under the cosh here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_neil41 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 And to think Peter Reid turned down Clayton Donaldson because he wouldn't be good enough for League 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 He's certainly a 'handful'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_neil41 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 And to think Peter Reid turned down Clayton Donaldson because he wouldn't be good enough for League 2. Heh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 And now he's scored! Probably a toss up between him and Leon Clarke for the opposition forward who caused us the most problems this year. Actually probably chuck in Matt Smith at Oldham and Marvin Morgan at Aldershot as well. In short anyone who can bully our defenders I still reckon we only signed Leon Clarke because he completely mullered us when we played Scunthorpe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheer Class Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Yea Im happy we will have Agyemang in L2. Big big lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_neil41 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I don't rate Marvin Morgan at all, cannot header a ball, it just hits him. Then there's his technical ability... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Yea Im happy we will have Agyemang in L2. Big big lad Yeah forgot about him, he destroyed us for 2 different teams Our CB's really are a bunch of pussies. I don't rate Marvin Morgan at all, cannot header a ball, it just hits him. Then there's his technical ability... Oh he's dog turd, he missed about 6 sitters against us and his passing/touch was shocking. But his pure physical attributes caused us a ton of problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazRTaylor Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 2-1. Game on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Terrible defending that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Sort it out lads! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 So you are saying if Yeovil signed a bloke on a free transfer with a 50% sell on clause who they later sold for £2 million then their record transfer fee would be £1 million? I wouldn't agree with that at all. why not? the sell on clause is part of the fee ( although the fee in your scenario is 0 so in fact, the sell on clause IS the fee ), in your scenario, if they hadnt "paid" the sell on clause, they would have made 2 million from the deal, but because they "paid" the sell on clause, they had to pay half off that to whoever they signed the player from in the first place. Now there is the argument to be made, that the club might ask for more money because of the sell on fee, but that doesnt change the fact that the clause is part of the fee. In the specific scenario i was talking about, Chris Cohen moved to Yeovil from West Ham either for free or a small disclosed fee ( depending on whether you believe Daz has a super secret source or not ) PLUS a sell on clause of 20%, when we signed Arron Davies and Cohen from them, we agreed a deal for 1.2 million, which would ( from what i understand of the deal ) have been roughly of equal value for each player ( so 600k each ) but Yeovil requested that we effectively pay 1 million for Davies and 200k for Cohen so that they would have to pay less money to their previous clubs in sell on clauses ( Davies was at Southampton before, i dont know what his sell on fee was, but it was smaller than Cohens ). They didnt ask for anymore money, they just asked that we restructured the bid, which we did, this means that instead of the 1.2 million we paid, they received 1.195 million and paid the rest to West Ham/Southampton, which makes it part of the fee they paid to sign the 2 players in the first place, imo anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robokid87 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 That would have been a brilliant goal if Forrester's volley had gone in at the end there. +1 for Morgan being crap but always looking like he was about to score (though I saw him in League 2 while he was still at Aldershot) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_neil41 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 why not? the sell on clause is part of the fee ( although the fee in your scenario is 0 so in fact, the sell on clause IS the fee ), in your scenario, if they hadnt "paid" the sell on clause, they would have made 2 million from the deal, but because they "paid" the sell on clause, they had to pay half off that to whoever they signed the player from in the first place. Now there is the argument to be made, that the club might ask for more money because of the sell on fee, but that doesnt change the fact that the clause is part of the fee.In the specific scenario i was talking about, Chris Cohen moved to Yeovil from West Ham either for free or a small disclosed fee ( depending on whether you believe Daz has a super secret source or not ) PLUS a sell on clause of 20%, when we signed Arron Davies and Cohen from them, we agreed a deal for 1.2 million, which would ( from what i understand of the deal ) have been roughly of equal value for each player ( so 600k each ) but Yeovil requested that we effectively pay 1 million for Davies and 200k for Cohen so that they would have to pay less money to their previous clubs in sell on clauses ( Davies was at Southampton before, i dont know what his sell on fee was, but it was smaller than Cohens ). They didnt ask for anymore money, they just asked that we restructured the bid, which we did, this means that instead of the 1.2 million we paid, they received 1.195 million and paid the rest to West Ham/Southampton, which makes it part of the fee they paid to sign the 2 players in the first place, imo anyway. Aah the same as the good old James Collins and Danny Gabbidon deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 He's a poor mans Adebola tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Not good enough for League 2 eh? Quality finish that, greedy though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_neil41 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 That's Peter Reid for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Yeah we did have him as our manager as well btw. I know all about him We sacked our most popular manager since the 80's (after he'd just won a game 5-2) so that we could bring in a 'big name' in Peter Reid. A lot of fans are still very angry about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Game on (again)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Blatant handball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjani'sBootCleaner Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Oh dear oh dear Brentford... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Brentford :D Dominated this game and somehow drawn 3-3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robokid87 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Again ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Do Brentford not know conceding in the 95th minute is generally a bad idea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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