Casablancas Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I actually hope we lose this game by a large margin. We have been painting over the cracks in our midfield for far too long now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I actually hope we lose this game by a large margin. We have been painting over the cracks in our midfield for far too long now. Yes, so let's hope we lose by a large margin as we can just go out and buy a new midfielder tomorrow. What utter nonsense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Ritchie Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Try the diamond again second half imo: Carrick Cleverly Kagawa Nani Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Don't worry lads, 3-2 at F/T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Kagawa needs Cleverley, not Carrick and Scholes (and certainly not Giggs). That's my point. So who wins the ball for Kagawa and Cleverley to go dancing about? Who protects our back line against the pace of Bale, Lennon, Walker, Sandro, Vertonghen & Dembele. We start with Carrick, Scholes, Cleverley as a central 3 with Rooney & Nani wide left and right and RVP up top. When Scholes starts to tire we bring on the legs of Ando and then Welbeck for Rooney/RVP if we need a goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 FFS have we been pants so far. Not really had a sniff. Wouldn't want to be a player coming into that dressing room at half-time... Unfortunately, not sure the team he has out there can be much better - needs to look at his own team selection not blame the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 That's a stonewall penalty ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Ritchie Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 So who wins the ball for Kagawa and Cleverley to go dancing about? Who protects our back line against the pace of Bale, Lennon, Walker, Sandro, Vertonghen & Dembele.We start with Carrick, Scholes, Cleverley as a central 3 with Rooney & Nani wide left and right and RVP up top. When Scholes starts to tire we bring on the legs of Ando and then Welbeck for Rooney/RVP if we need a goal. We've already twice seen the protection afforded by Carrick and Scholes. At least Anderson and Cleverley have the legs to try to disrupt Spurs. Penalty ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursty2 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Yep, throws himself to the ground there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 About as clear as they come Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casablancas Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I wasn't suggesting that at all! it's obvious to see that our midfield is not up to the standards expected by a club like Utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 We cant complain about penalties, we have had enough "gifts" from the refs from the last 2 seasons to last us 5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Ritchie Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Kagawa's pretty much doing the job of himself and Giggs (neither very well). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaroad Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Fergie pretty much going to throw all strikers on at HT then and make our midfield even more weaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 We've already twice seen the protection afforded by Carrick and Scholes. At least Anderson and Cleverley have the legs to try to disrupt Spurs.Penalty ffs Due to being outnumbered as SAF accomodates Kagawa who has been as useless as Giggs. Scholes, Carrick, Cleverley, Rooney has a mixture of movement and ball retention that exceeds what is on there. I might accept Anderson for Scholes but certainly not Carrick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Why are we reinventing the wheel here? We leave him out and bring Rooney or Cleverley in and the team looks miles better. This result is a blessing imo, SAF will see that this lineup just does not work against decent teams that have any pace or ball retention. Put a team out that can keep the ball (and win it back) and the chances will come. Rooney or Cleverley make up for "the Giggs problem" better than Kagawa but the problem really isn't Kagawa - it's Giggs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 We cant complain about penalties, we have had enough "gifts" from the refs from the last 2 seasons to last us 5 years. And lots of wrongs make a right Come off it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted September 29, 2012 Author Share Posted September 29, 2012 Giggs and Scholes off, Cleverley and Anderson on please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Kagawa's pretty much doing the job of himself and Giggs (neither very well). He has done nothing of note going forward, tracked back a few times but spent the rest of the game wandering about like a headless chicken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Ritchie Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Lindegaard Rafael Rio Evans Evra Carrick Cleverley Kagawa Nani Rooney van Persie For the second half please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Ritchie Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 He has done nothing of note going forward, tracked back a few times but spent the rest of the game wandering about like a headless chicken. Like I say, he's covering Giggs' defensive duties. It's too much to expect him to do that and be the closest player to RVP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 And lots of wrongs make a right Come off it ....because that is what i said. I am saying that when you are the one constantly stealing from others, do not cry when someone steals from you. I never said that it makes the stealing acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaroad Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 He has done nothing of note going forward, tracked back a few times but spent the rest of the game wandering about like a headless chicken. Nothing much he can do besides what he is doing now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 ....because that is what i said. I am saying that when you are the one constantly stealing from others, do not cry when someone steals from you. I never said that it makes the stealing acceptable. We've not stolen anything from anyone. The fact refs have been inept in our favour doesn't mean we aren't allowed to complain about inept reffing going against us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 We've not stolen anything from anyone. The fact refs have been inept in our favour doesn't mean we aren't allowed to complain about inept reffing going against us I used stealing as an expression, not saying we LITERALLY stole off others. I need someone who speaks Icelandic to translate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Clear penalty, but we got a soft on Valencia last so guess we can't complain. Still sucks though. Don't think we can come back and win this match. This Spurs team is too good for that. Why did they have to start playing well *now* though? Teams always do this against us Hope we can get a point though it will be tough. Our squad is too top-heavy now and the hole in midfield is still there. Hard to really get around that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 By squad I mean the whole squad btw, not just today. Before people tear my limbs off for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I used stealing as an expression, not saying we LITERALLY stole off others.I need someone who speaks Icelandic to translate. No, you're original point just doesn't work unless it's about something we've actually done. Fair enough if we've got Nani/Young at their diving worst and someone dives against us. But refs being inept doesn't mean we can't complain about them being inept Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheps. Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Christ we've played badly this season, but that 45 minutes has to top it off. I'm pretty much resigned to losing the 3 points now. Giggs is literally one of my favourite ever players but he's doing more harm than good by continuing to play, ala Gary Neville just before he called it a day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Ritchie Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Giggs off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Thanks heavens for that, we still need midfield solidity as we are now even more top heavy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursty2 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Get in there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted September 29, 2012 Author Share Posted September 29, 2012 Rooney looks like he's interested anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Ritchie Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Come on United! This has been much better so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Comeback on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Yes what a difference! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 When Nani does good he does bloody good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Oh you've got to be kidding... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 ****s on wheels. We finally score and then do THAT. ARSE!!!!! Had to star out. Are words unstarred now?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 sheesh where's the defence? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 What amazingly good defending lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Hahahaha Can we stop using DIG and stick with DeGea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Ritchie Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 oh ffs United. Neither midfield player was paying any attention at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Comeback back on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursty2 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Mixed reactions! Get in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Ritchie Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 YES! This is a ****ing ridiculous game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 This game is no good for my ticker! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Haha nosense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 :shock: This could be some game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Bestie7 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 What....the....hell... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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