Gunnapaul Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I always found the FM games to be a bit unrealistic before when it comes down to injuries, no matter what team I was I always seem to get regular injuries and sometimes found it a bit unrealistic, but with FM09 its just plain outrageous! Im currently playing with Darlington in league 2, so obviously theyre not going to have the best training and physio equipment so you do expect injuries a bit more in the lower leagues, however to get an injury per match played is surely beyond tactics, training and anything else? Even if you lot replied and said its all down to training I still dont think this should be part of the game, you could train your players every day for 3 hours per session and I still dont think you would get an injury per game in real life. Anyway, anyone got some advice on how to avoid this rediculous injury-per-game problem? Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotoro Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Have you downloaded the patch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Do you have the latest patch (9.1.0) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnapaul Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 Yer I do, installed it after installing the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Then in preseason, try using all your subs at half time, don't use a heavy training schedule and keep an eye on the conditions of players throughout a match and before a agme Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnapaul Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 I usually always make sure the players condition is at least 90% before playing them. Ive reduced the training intensity so will see if that helps, cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I usually always make sure the players condition is at least 90% before playing them. Ive reduced the training intensity so will see if that helps, cheers. Report your results mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnapaul Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 Report your results mate. Ahh, slight problem, Darlington just sacked me, lol. Will continue this research onto the next team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Ahh, slight problem, Darlington just sacked me, lol.Will continue this research onto the next team. Ah, how inconvenient, well be sure to post your results, if I am offline would you PM me, I'm quite interested in this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 im arsenal and have 8 players out ,not had a chance to play my best XI yet , and i just played bolton and had both my centre backs get injured plus a striker i now have only 1 cb which is'nt injured (djourour) injured centre backs : toure (3weeks) silvestre (1month) naldo (3 months) and im using the latest patch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony1977 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 im now at the point where i just dont wanna play FM09 anymore as it just isnt fun. ive now started 3 games now and in each one, by the time i get to september i have 3 or 4 top players out for 5 months! and yes i have been subbin players when they are tired. 2 of the injuries happened to players who had only been on the pitch for 10-15 mins so somethin if defo wrong, ive never had this problem with previous FM games. + the fact that fitness now seems to be the main reason why players get injured is ridiculous when u think about it. if a player is the victim of a bad tackle in a game, its the tackle that can hurt him, not the fact that hes tired. anyone who has played or even watched football would know this so i just dont get why FM has gone down this road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I've just had to use all 3 subs in the first 36 minutes of a match due to injuries It's a joke! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Yeah the injuries have to be looked at,If I see 1 more post about it is your tactics or training I will scream. I have played 15 matches when I settled on QPR to play full time,I have 23 players in my 1st team,not 1 time have I had a full squad to choose from,which is fair enough but for the last month I have had 5-7 player's injured,all long term maybe 1month to a guy that I signed that was doing nicely for me out for 6months,I dont mind injuries it is part of the game but it almost seems the teams I have played have the West Ham luck. I now never ever use my 3 subs regardless of how the game is going for me or how poorly a player is playing after I have made 2 subs,I have been stung a few times with player's being injured in the game and I have already used my subs. In 1 game I changed a guy at half-time and in the 1st 20 mins of the 2nd half had 3 injuries(including the guy I brought on)ended up finshing that game with 9 players after a late injury. So now I will change maybe 1 or at the most 2 for 80 mins of the match,if I have only used 1 then bring on the 2nd but will never use my 3rd,seems stupid but I wont take the chance anymore. The injuries aswell as the ranged shooting really has to be addressed in a patch,they are the only 2 things that stop me enjoying fm09 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mil0oz Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 One of the big triumviate fried: Injuries Shots hitting woodwork Getting strikers to score Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swansea_CityFc Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 One of the big triumviate fried:Injuries Shots hitting woodwork Getting strikers to score Agree 100% mate i'm well disappointed with this game (shame) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc101 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Tut Tut, how dare my players get injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4457 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I've just had to use all 3 subs in the first 36 minutes of a match due to injuries It's a joke! It's not a joke. It's happened in real life before multiple times, it can happen in game too. Just move on. It happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.D Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 well why wouldnt people have plenty of backup just incase you are cursed with injuries, by having plenty of backup there wouldn't be as many moaners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopnkr Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 same here... too many injuries, and it's NOT realistic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderblue Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I'm playing with Man city and don't have many at all, seems OK for me. Before the patch in the demo it was a hell of a lot worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alunz Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 well if u guys dun mind starting the game again .... just edit ur data with that data editor, i make my injures percentage to like 0.0005 and i still get 1 player injured per like 3 or 4 games and they will be out for 2 month and wat i find ridicolous is that bruised jaw can keep someone out for 2 month...! i suppose i set all the injury percentage to 0.0000001 if i can be bothered to start the game again and trust me 0.000001 is not exaggerated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adj1847 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 It's not a joke. It's happened in real life before multiple times, it can happen in game too. Just move on. It happens. Do you have an example please? I watch a lot of football and cant recall ever having seen that happen once never mind 'multiple times.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micado Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Do you have an example please? I watch a lot of football and cant recall ever having seen that happen once never mind 'multiple times.' Agreed, one injury OK, but three in 36 min. that is a not very real. Or two within 33 minutes, then another one after 78 and then one in injury time. Total 4. "][/url] It is the demo and patched. Started a new demo game after the patching. I got injuries on a very regular basis, often two weeks or something so I can still handle it, but 4 in a match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stezza11 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I find the injuries a joke on my game. I'm playing as West Ham so i don't know if there is a specific code written for them, but i had 5 players stretchered off in one game. Every match at least 1 or 2 of my players pick up a knock and someone has to be taken off through injury. Then they are out for a month or more! You could joke that it's quite realistic being West Ham, but this many injuries ain't funny!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butts Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 One of the big triumviate fried:Injuries Shots hitting woodwork Getting strikers to score 1. Never been a problem for me 2. Been mentioned before never seen it myself 3. probably your tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG.L Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I know it is a joke. In my first match wit fulham bullard, A.johnson and gera all got injured for a about 2months each Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butts Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Is everyone here using the patch btw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 i heard if you tell your players to not tackle hard they might not get injured as much??? , seems a bit daft though! , i think injuries have been toned down slightly with the patch but i still think there are to many long term injuries . hopefully they will tone them down a bit more in another patch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I´ve had no injuries at all so far, six month into the game using the patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony1977 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 i dont have a problem with injuries its part n parcel of football after all but in FM09 it just feels artificial for want of a better word. out of all the CM/FM games i have played (1st one bein 93) this one has left me feelin the most frustated. the whole fitness/injury thing seemd porked. take stevie gerard for example, he has stamina of 18 yet if i play him for 90 mins he risks injury cos he gets to tired?? as i said above, players gettin injured should have nothin to do with players gettin tired. tiredness should affect performance and workrate. i really hope another patch will be released sooner rather than later but u fear we may have to wait till feb which is a shame. maybe this will be the year that championship manager takes FM's crown of best management game. who would've thought that 1 month ago? ps to viking what excatly are u doin to avoid injuries mate.? my 3 games have been unplayable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeezgob Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Too many shots hitting the woordwork is definitely a bug. I had six shots clang back off the woodwork in one game..which I eventually lost 1-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 psto viking what excatly are u doin to avoid injuries mate.? my 3 games have been unplayable Beats me, it´s probably an coincidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 With another three months of time in the game, I´ve had some injuries. I´d say the problem for me isn´t the amount of injuries, but that they all seem to be very severe. Four injuried players, all away for at least 2-6 months. I haven´t seen any "minor" injuries at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnystorm Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I'm Ac milan and the injurys i have right now as follows. inzaghi - 2 months nesta - 7 months kalac - 3 months emerson - 1 month kaka - 4 months gattuso- 3 weeks senderos - 9 months!!!!!! brorrielle - 3 months!! pato - 3 days lol i think i'm about to resign milan manager and go back to farming corn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickballz Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I agree that reducing training a few notches seems to make a big difference. Seemed to stop injuries almost completely for me but could just be coincidence. My main gripe is that central midfielders lose far too much condition during a match and I nearly always have to sub them after about an hour otherwise they would probably get crocked. There's no way CMs tire that quickly in real football - definitely needs fixing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony1977 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 its almost as thought the stamina attribute means nothing. a player with high stamina should be able to make forward runs for most of the match without runnin the risk of injury Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
presumingpete Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 i'm almost dissapointed by the injuries, i have quite a big squad but the players dont get injured enuff to keep the fringe players happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Craig Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I think Viking nailed it for me. At Newcastle I've currently got 7 players out injured for a month or more. It does seem to be the severity of the injury is just as much a problem - if not more of a problem - than the actual number of injuries that occur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 ive not had a bad injury for six games now , at first i had a lot of players out , 8 in total one had a long term injury of 3 months but he was back in a month. im starting to think the injuries are not as bad as first thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0x0r Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I've been finding it relatively stable. I'll usually have 1-2 players injured. There'll be the odd crisis of course, but it feels fairly close to what happens in reality. That said I try to rotate when fitness starts dropping, play with a slow tempo and drop my training a little lower then default. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I've been finding it relatively stable. I'll usually have 1-2 players injured. There'll be the odd crisis of course, but it feels fairly close to what happens in reality.That said I try to rotate when fitness starts dropping, play with a slow tempo and drop my training a little lower then default. yeah every team goes through a so calles injury crisis , i think mine hopefully came and went at the begining of the season , im now on a nice run of results and only have 4 players out with which 2 are the long term rosicky and eduardo . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilUK Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I don't see a huge problem either to be honest, I'm into the backend of my second season managing two teams, Newcastle and Leeds. The injuries seem fine to me, maybe there aren't many niggles. I don't seem to get many week long injuries for example but the amount of players out at the same time hasn't been a problem However it has already been announced by SI in one of the million injury threads that they are to be tweaked again in the next patch so don't panic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbinho Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 whats going on? first i can't get the disc to activate till the next day, now i finally get it working and my team is depleted through the injury bug! At the end of the day this is a game and is supposed to be fun, pre-patch had every centre back injurred for three months plus, probabally due to setting their tackling on hard!!? now playing my reserves in the premier league. Patch lucklily cured some injuries and doesn't seem to have been as bad since. Isnt this sort of rubbish what beta testers are supposed to report on!??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnapaul Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Cant believe some people have said this happens in real life, sorry but thats complete tosh, Im 99.9% sure no team in the English leagues get a player injured per game, no chance. Anyway just to update Im now manager of Cambridge and will update on the injury situation, so far 2 games and guess what, yep, 2 injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnystorm Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I found using the tug tranining it took out like 90% of the bs injuries, try it seriously. Get maybe 1 or 2 minor injories a month Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigOutYourSoul Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Why is every injury a month or longer..in a season in a half I have lost Gerrard 4/5 times for a month or 3...Torres has been out 5/6 times for a month each time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfootedfred Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 hate to say it....but this **** happens in football. believe me, ferguson, wenger, they share your pain. Its not 'ridiculous' its football. some tips, dont play anyone if they are under 92% fitness, but if you must, take them off at 60 mins. If your player picks up a knock on the pitch check his condition immediately if hes under 60%, dont wait take him off. If above, you can prob wait till half time in the first half, or 70 mins in the second. hire good fitness coaches, i always have at least 3 of the best i can get. and good physios. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indi75 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I don't see a huge problem either to be honest, I'm into the backend of my second season managing two teams, Newcastle and Leeds. The injuries seem fine to me, maybe there aren't many niggles. I don't seem to get many week long injuries for example but the amount of players out at the same time hasn't been a problemHowever it has already been announced by SI in one of the million injury threads that they are to be tweaked again in the next patch so don't panic! Same thing here, although two separate games and still in first season meddling with tactics. I've had to adjust my training and ensure players are rested between games in varying degrees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casshan Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 FWIW, I am playing a game in MLS, and four games into the season, I have four players out with injuries. However, there are four teams with 10 players or more out with injuries. At the same time, there are 94 injuries four games into the season across the 14 team league. That seems a bit excessive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnapaul Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 I found using the tug tranining it took out like 90% of the bs injuries, try it seriously. Get maybe 1 or 2 minor injories a month Whats this 'tug training' you speak of? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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