ArsenalFan7 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 I didn't want to have to sound like a total idiot :o but I can't take it anymore.. What is eccentricity and do I want alot of it or little amounts of it? I really don't understand what it is.. Please tell me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puevlo Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 If it's high then your keeper does crazy stuff like trying to dribble past players down the pitch to score and comes way out of his box to tackle players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted December 24, 2009 Author Share Posted December 24, 2009 Ok then thanks. So is there one like word that can be used to describe it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harper Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Ok then thanks. So is there one like word that can be used to describe it? Yes, two words actually. Well, more of a name "Jens Lehmann" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballinisahabit Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9FAhzNipoQ Eccentricity - 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciatmol Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Ok then thanks. So is there one like word that can be used to describe it? well there's one very apt word, a word you may not consider appropriate at times but it actually works really well... Eccentricity.. ta da.... there are so many keepers down the ages that you could consider eccentric but my favourite would be bruce grobelaar.... he really sums it up for me.. i'm sure other people have their favourites as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGSilva5 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Mad Jens, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seule Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Barthez and Jens were both great, but Rene Higuita will always be #1. They didn't call him El Loco for nothin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 A brilliant keeper can get away with being eccentric, but usually a manager and defence require a reliable, predictable character, so overall the lower the rating the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troneas Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 the former mexican keeper jorge campos was also a good example of exotic keepers. current argentinean keeper romero is going down that path too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joor Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Ok then thanks. So is there one like word that can be used to describe it? Flair . Eccentricity is another word for flair. Works just like that as it does for outfield players - how often they try the unexpected.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted December 24, 2009 Author Share Posted December 24, 2009 Now I get it. It's basically a goalkeepers ability to do the unexpected? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivametimbers Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 eccentricity = nutter = gomes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCryptic Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 More likely to pull off a remarkable save, and than in the next breathe throw the ball into his own net. You want it low if you want a dependable, safe keeper and high for a thrill a minute ride. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k.n.o.w.l.e.s Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 eccentricity = nutter = gomes Gomes is one of the best keepers in the game!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyte` Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Flair . Eccentricity is another word for flair. Works just like that as it does for outfield players - how often they try the unexpected.. i'd disagree, i think you misunderstand the meaning of flair flair would be a person's natural ability and aptitude, it has a different meaning from eccentricity, both in game and in general English use Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 From FM Genie Scout: " This attribute represents the likelihood of the goalkeeper to do the unexpected and typically act unlike a goalkeeper. Things like dribbling out of his area will be common-place if the eccentricity attribute is high. Marc Vaughan & Nick Habershon: An eccentric goalkeeper is a double-edged sword. He might be capable of moments of genius, but equally you may find him scampering out of his box with no hope of getting to the ball before the opposition striker. If you like a player with a bit of character, a low rating, in my opinion, is not necessarily a good thing. " If you play with a sweeper keeper, you probably would want an 'eccentric' goalkeeper and not one who stays in his box when he is supposed to mop up loose balls. Then again, who plays with sweeper keepers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntelaar19 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 eccentricity = nutter = gomes I wouldn't really say Gomes was eccentric . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Bruce Grobbelaar immediately comes to mind for those of us with long memories. Sums up eccentricity perfectly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonz Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 I was never sure whether 20 meant high or low eccentricity-always meant to ask that since they introduced negative attributes but always forgot. Nice to see a thread resolve it anyway. I remember being confused by an older game that gave Buffon a 20 for eccentricity-I can only presume that was a mistake because I can think of few less eccentric keepers than Buffon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis_D Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Jose Luis Chilavert is another. Chilavert and Jorge Campos were both eccentric goalkeepers, but for Rene Higuita to have his correct level of eccentricity, you would have to use fmrte to change his 'eccentricity' stat to 29! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Then again, who plays with sweeper keepers? Me, but my defence needs to know when he's gonna come bombing out or not! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setsuna Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Artur Boruc. <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiggyDempsey Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 I have played many games as Celtic and Artur Boruc has a 20 rating in eccentricity but I can tell you now that he doesnt do stupid stuff, he doesnt cost me goals. I cant think of one and I've played many hours. I'm currently wondering if Guillermo Ochoa is actually a better keeper despite the feedback from coaches, scouts, FM gamers, and saves where I've had him before. Eccentricity isnt a bad thing, I think there is other attributes that decide whether this attribute makes your GK a saviour or a nutcase. Boruc is a case where it makes him good, very very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Me, but my defence needs to know when he's gonna come bombing out or not! Care to share your experience? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almondo Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Bruce Grobbelaar immediately comes to mind for those of us with long memories. Sums up eccentricity perfectly Agree with you here Fraz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottey_swe Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 I actually had some problems on FM07 getting craig gordon to play well for man u when replacing buffon. He had like 2 in eccentricity and buffon had much higher. He was really poor, even thoug he had very similar attributes except from that single one. May have been for some other reason though, because after a couple of seasons in and out the squad he became much more reliable. Remember thinking about that attribute though, as it was the only attribute really separating them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Care to share your experience? Huh? :confused: jiggy - can you relate any incident when you thought, 'My Boruc acted eccentric there'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiggyDempsey Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Huh? :confused:jiggy - can you relate any incident when you thought, 'My Boruc acted eccentric there'? In all the hours, even days I've played, 95% has been with Boruc and no I cant remember one incident where he did anything unpredictable or risky, I'm trying but I actually cant. He's been a key player for me and saved my bacon on many many an occasion. If he was unreliable, I'd be saying it and wouldnt have been so reliant on him as I have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Jiggy - that's what I tohught you meant. In which case his 'eccentricity' seems irrelevant! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiggyDempsey Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 I dont think its irrelevant but I think its a bad trait if the GK's personality and other mental stats are weak in key areas and a boost if they are strong in the key areas Boruc has decent mental stats so maybe its an added bonus. Anyone thats seen Boruc IRL when he's mentally focused and that period when he was having problems with the wife we all saw a dramatic difference in his performances. When he was happy off the field again, his performances were much much better, IRL. I think Eccentricity is linked in this way and not like a normal attribute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 personally i dont care much for eccentricity or lack of it. Thats just how my stopper is, but given the choice i prefer low eccentricity. As a gunner watching lehmann in real life was quite a change from the reliable david seaman! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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