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[quote name='arsenal_2111']I've finished Arsenal, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester United(which took A LOT of work) and Wigan.

Seeing as the new Wiki has been made by all of us, should we change the introduction a bit?

At the moment it says


I think the second sentence needs changing a little, to give us all a little credit instead of just peter. Who fully deserves the credit, fwiw, for creating the first one.[/quote]

Also about the home page. Do we want to change it to make it look not like Wikipedia but have it laid out with not just a list of articles?

For example have coloured boxes with the text in them, a header at the top with Welcome to FMWiki or something? And then have links to different sections up there or whatever?

If you have a look at Wikipedia's home page, you will see a bit about what I mean.

Just throwing out some ideas for if not now for trying to improve the layout when we feel we need to. :thup:

EDIT: Just saw snootyjim's post. Panels was the word I wanted instead of boxes. :D

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Ok, MLS page all updated on the new site. :)

Hope to make some individual team pages, along with individual player FM wiki pages for MLS players in the near future. :)

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The Premier League page is really starting to do well, all guides I have been given permission for have been done.

I may make some player guides, but I'm not sure yet.

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If anyone has a look at my user page on the wiki, you will see a banner. That was something I was thinking of to start of with on the home page. Obviously it can be changed colour wise, text wise and so on and I just threw in a few links. What do people think of something like that?

Oh yeah I meant to say about this on the last wiki and I forgot. I never knew Sunderland was Sunderland Athletic. Is that right?

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[quote name='jod123']If anyone has a look at my user page on the wiki, you will see a banner. That was something I was thinking of to start of with on the home page. Obviously it can be changed colour wise, text wise and so on and I just threw in a few links. What do people think of something like that?

Oh yeah I meant to say about this on the last wiki and I forgot. I never knew Sunderland was Sunderland Athletic. Is that right?[/QUOTE]

Their full name is Sunderland Athletic Football Club. Do you think I should change it to just Sunderland? If you search for Sunderland it comes up anyway, as a redirected page. Still, if you think it would be better as just Sunderland then it's no problem.

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Yeah I chucked in the redirect for that very reason... I think we should stick with official names for the club pages though, it looks a bit more professional and is more consistent if you know what I mean.

As for the home page, I think something like [URL="http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Oblivion"]this[/URL] or [URL="http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page"]this[/URL] could be good. As they're examples of gamewikis I thought they might be a good place to start.

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[quote name='arsenal_2111']Their full name is Sunderland Athletic Football Club. Do you think I should change it to just Sunderland? If you search for Sunderland it comes up anyway, as a redirected page. Still, if you think it would be better as just Sunderland then it's no problem.[/quote]

Another Wiki :D - Wikipedia has this:

[QUOTE][B]Sunderland Association Football Club[/B] are a professional association football club based in Sunderland, Tyne and Wear, England, that compete in the Premier League.[/QUOTE]

;)

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[quote name='arsenal_2111']I've finished Arsenal, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester United(which took A LOT of work) and Wigan.

Seeing as the new Wiki has been made by all of us, should we change the introduction a bit?

At the moment it says


I think the second sentence needs changing a little, to give us all a little credit instead of just peter. Who fully deserves the credit, fwiw, for creating the first one.[/quote]

Really good work there arsenal_2111. Just a tiny point, the second last sentence on the disclaimers read "...I can not guarentee that the below is the exact ..." It should say 'above'. Oh and you spelt guarantee wrong ;)

[quote name='snooty_jim']I agree, but I think to be honest the whole front page / introduction could probably do with gutting.

Eventually it would be nice to see a structured page with various panels like you would for a typical gamewiki, and all of that type of information from above could be moved into its own 'About Wiki' page or similar.

Hence, maybe it's better to leave it for now, and wait until there's something more substantial in the way of pages whose links can then be used to populate the main page?[/quote]

Yes I agree with this also.

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[quote name='jod123']Another Wiki :D - Wikipedia has this:



;)[/QUOTE]

That's that sorted then :)

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I've got to get on with fixing my dad's laptop so I'm done for the night.

Will pop back next time I have a few free minutes, there must be tonnes of content we can add to this thing!

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Anyway, I am off to bed.

Glad you liked the banner snooty_jim. :D

What you think of the panel that I have now on my page? It is similar to Wikipedia but obviously could be changed.

Anyway, great work everyone. :thup:

Lost of club articles, Arsenal which is great. :D

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[quote name='jod123']Anyway, I am off to bed.

Glad you liked the banner snooty_jim.

What you think of the panel that I have now on my page? It is similar to Wikipedia but obviously could be changed.

Anyway, great work everyone.

Lost of club articles, Arsenal which is great. :D[/quote]

Aw boo! No respect for the MLS article! :mad: ;)

Good night jod. :D

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Just looked at the MLS article and it's excellent, well done Rancer :thup:

I'm off to bed myself now. Jod, i've just added an article about League Standard, can you check it over tomorrow and see if you agree with what i've written, i think you also have a bit of knowledge about this area if memory serves me correct.

Well done guys, the Wiki is coming along nicely :)

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If you want to change the front page, change it. I initially made that when I first got the wiki and I am suprised no one has changed it yet. Do what you like :D

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Slightly annoying is that the page is too wide and I have to scroll across sideways.

I hate scroll bars :(

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[quote name='CaptainPlanet']Slightly annoying is that the page is too wide and I have to scroll across sideways.

I hate scroll bars :([/QUOTE]
Me too, the layout definitely needs to be improved in the future.

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I have no sideways scrollbars strangely, & I'm using a laptop with a relatively small screen.

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Only just caught up with this. Can we put images in?

I was going to make an article on setting up your game.

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[quote name='weeeman27bob']Only just caught up with this. Can we put images in?

I was going to make an article on setting up your game.[/quote]
We need JJay to give us privileges to put in images. So no, not yet.

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[quote name='CaptainPlanet']Because the interface of the free site won't allow us too.

[B]If you look at any other wiki site, none of them look like Wikipedia.[/B][/QUOTE]

[B]You sure[/B]

[url]http://www.grimepedia.co.uk/wiki/Grime_Wikipedia:About[/url]

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Galactus - I think CaptainPlanet was just trying to say that not all wikis look like wikipedia, & not that none of them do.

We've moved to a more wikipedia-esque site now anyway.

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There's already a football manager wikipedia site up, although it doesn't go talk about clubs like your one does, or as much detail.

[url]http://footballmanager.wikia.com/wiki/Football_Manager_2009[/url]

You might already know this, I was just pointing it out.

EDIT: Just noticed that you already knew this. My bad :D

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[quote name='jod123']Another Wiki - Wikipedia has this:



[/QUOTE]

Oh right, sorry. I had always thought that it stood for Sunderland Athletic! Would you be able to change the page name for me please, it doesn't seem to be letting me:(

[quote name='small Mac']Really good work there arsenal_2111. Just a tiny point, the second last sentence on the disclaimers read "...I can not guarentee that the below is the exact ..." It should say 'above'. Oh and you spelt guarantee wrong ;)[/quote]

Thanks for pointing that out, with most of them I changed that but as I just copied it from the old site is said below. What page did I forget to change it on?


[quote name='DiscoStu94']There's already a football manager wikipedia site up, although it doesn't go talk about clubs like your one does, or as much detail.

[url]http://footballmanager.wikia.com/wiki/Football_Manager_2009[/url]

You might already know this, I was just pointing it out.

EDIT: Just noticed that you already knew this. My bad :D[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure that was linked to near the start of the thread, and we decided that it was a bit out of date. Tbh I think a official site rather than a signup thing is better. Thanks anyway:)

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have been following this great project for the last few days and would love to get involved if that's ok.

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[quote name='josh9393']have been following this great project for the last few days and would love to get involved if that's ok.[/quote]
You're very welcome as far as I'm concerned :)

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Thanks to whoever changed Sunderland's:thup:

[quote name='small Mac']Really good work there arsenal_2111. Just a tiny point, the second last sentence on the disclaimers read "...I can not guarentee that the below is the exact ..." It should say 'above'. Oh and you spelt guarantee wrong ;)
[quote name='arsenal_2111']
Thanks for pointing that out, with most of them I changed that but as I just copied it from the old site is said below. What page did I forget to change it on?
[/quote][/quote]

Never mind, realised that there was two places that it was meant to be changed, and I'd only done one. But they are all changed now, as it the spelling.

[quote name='josh9393']have been following this great project for the last few days and would love to get involved if that's ok.[/QUOTE]

Of course you can get involved, anyone can as long as they know a lot about the subject they are writing about and the articles are of a high quality.

If you do write one, let us know what it is so we can make sure that no-one else does it/is doing it.

Good luck:thup:

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For the Premier League, shouldn't the page be called 'English Premier League Clubs' not 'Premiership Clubs', as EPL is from FM, and Premiership is the old term. As far as I know I'm not allowed to change title, so I would appriciate it if someone else could do that.

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Seems sensible.

Make sure the english league threads are listed by divison rather than alphabetical order though.

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[quote name='ahmufcwafc']I'll start working on tags for the articles now.[/QUOTE]

Are you an admin on it? If so, would you be able to change the name of the Premier League page please? Either to Premier League, English Premier League, English Premier Division. Just something more FM-like.

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[quote name='arsenal_2111']Are you an admin on it? If so, would you be able to change the name of the Premier League page please? Either to Premier League, English Premier League, English Premier Division. Just something more FM-like.[/quote]
I'm an admin, but I don't seem to have the privileges to edit the title either. What you could do is make a new page with the 'Premier League Clubs' title, copy & paste everything from the old page into it, & replace the old Premiership page with the new Premier League one.

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Ive just added a Liverpool manager histroy but i cant make it look as good as some of the others :s

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[quote name='HuwFlet']Ive just added a Liverpool manager histroy but i cant make it look as good as some of the others :s[/quote]I fixed it up a bit for you Huw.

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[quote name='ahmufcwafc']I'm an admin, but I don't seem to have the privileges to edit the title either. What you could do is make a new page with the 'Premier League Clubs' title, copy & paste everything from the old page into it, & replace the old Premiership page with the new Premier League one.[/QUOTE]

Alright, I've done that. It's all linked up, but the page 'Premiership Clubs' is still there. Do you know how to redirect it to the new page, or to delete it altogether?

I've sent out some PM's asking for permission to use club threads, to all writers of Premier League threads. Hopefully the Prem should be done by the end of the day.

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[quote name='arsenal_2111']Alright, I've done that. It's all linked up, but the page 'Premiership Clubs' is still there. Do you know how to redirect it to the new page, or to delete it altogether?

I've sent out some PM's asking for permission to use club threads, to all writers of Premier League threads. Hopefully the Prem should be done by the end of the day.[/quote]
Just delete the old page & replace it with the new one. That's the best we can do I think.

Good to hear we might have the Premiership page complete soon :)

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[quote name='ahmufcwafc']Just delete the old page & replace it with the new one. That's the best we can do I think.

Good to hear we might have the Premiership page complete soon :)[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but how do I delete a page? There doesn't seem to be an option to do that.

Fulham, Villa and Newcastle have just been done.

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[quote name='arsenal_2111']Yeah, but how do I delete a page? There doesn't seem to be an option to do that.

Fulham, Villa and Newcastle have just been done.[/quote]Oh, I guess only admins can delete pages. Could you link me to the page you want deleted?

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[quote name='ahmufcwafc']Oh, I guess only admins can delete pages. Could you link me to the page you want deleted?[/QUOTE]

I can't link you to it, because every page seems to be the home page adress:confused:

But it's the page called 'Premiership Clubs':thup:

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Right, it should be gone now.

The amount of progress we've made in such a short space of time is fantastic. KUTGW guys!

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I'm working on [url]http://www.fmliveonline.com/fmwiki/index.php?title=Scouting[/url] at the moment btw :thup:

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I will register and do some work on some articles now.

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[URL="http://www.fmliveonline.com/fmwiki/index.php?title=Attributes"]Attributes[/URL]

Just did this quick article on attributes.

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Guys, how do you do redirections? I've made Olympique Lyonnais' page, but want to make it so 'Lyon' redirects there. Any idea how?

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[quote name='arsenal_2111']Guys, how do you do redirections? I've made Olympique Lyonnais' page, but want to make it so 'Lyon' redirects there. Any idea how?[/quote]
I tried to figure this out earlier. Don't have a clue, it's all so complicated.

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I will link it for you if you have posted it.

You go to the page you want to link it from and do a thing like this:

[[Lyon]]

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BTW, do you prefer the layout of the Premiership teams, i just changed it because it looked messy.

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[quote name='pnefc22']I will link it for you if you have posted it.

You go to the page you want to link it from and do a thing like this:

[[Lyon]][/quote]
I don't think that's what he's talking about though. He said that he wants people to be redirected to the Olympique Lyonnais page when they type 'Lyon' into the search box.[quote name='pnefc22']BTW, do you prefer the layout of the Premiership teams, i just changed it because it looked messy.[/quote]Much better :thup:

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[quote name='ahmufcwafc']I tried to figure this out earlier. Don't have a clue, it's all so complicated.[/QUOTE]

Hmm, thanks anyway. Will have to ask someone who is used to the site.

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Rob, thanks, but like said that's not really what I meant.

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[quote name='pnefc22']BTW, do you prefer the layout of the Premiership teams, i just changed it because it looked messy.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's better now.

I did it yesterday, but I'm concentrating on getting the team screens done at the moment so I didn't put muchtime into it.

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