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Posted this in the FM19 Performance thread but it's probably better off in here. 

Getting that itch to upgrade again after managing to sell all my parts (including a i9 9900k). I made a loss of around £80 in total because I didn't return the items quick enough, so I had to sell them all on ebay :rolleyes:

I only play FM and that's it, I would be upgrading exclusively for FM, I don't use a PC for much else really, browsing, iTunes etc just standard stuff. I have no plan to play any other game, I prefer consoles and will buy the PS5. 

Considering the AMD 3900x but again it seems like Intel reigns supreme for exclusively FM, so again probably only considering either the i9 9900k or the i7 9700k. Not sure if there's much point in buying the i9 over the i7 really, over £100 difference between the two and the i9 runs very hot. GPU I had lined up was the GeForce 1660 but that's very much overkill for FM. The reason for this is mostly because I plan to get around 6 or 7 years out of this system without upgrading like I have with my current system (i7 3770, 8GB initially but upgraded to 16 recently, GeForce GT 640 which is now very old).

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1 hour ago, kevhamster said:

I'd probably go for the Ryzen one of the two. Slightly higher base clock speed and more RAM.  They are both pretty decent though. 

Thanks for that.

I'mwondered if it was worth increasing my budget slightly for one of these two or stick with the Ryzen one

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-envy-x360-15-6-intel-core-i7-2-in-1-512-gb-ssd-silver-10193315-pdt.html (currently out of stock)

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-spectre-x360-13-3-intel-core-i7-2-in-1-512-gb-ssd-dark-silver-10188782-pdt.html

 

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23 minutes ago, stato_bennett said:

Depends really. 

I don't see any point in paying that much more for the second one. 

The other one, once in stock, may be worth it if you'll be doing anything else which requires a dedicated graphics card (other games primarily). 

FM doesn't need a dedicated graphics card, so if FM is the only game you play you may be hard pushed to justify paying an extra £300.

But, the choice is absolutely yours! :)

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hello guys what laptop would you recommend out of these if any ? i like to play with quite high settings with all leagues loaded on view only and quite a large database of players loaded

 

1. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1690000

2. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8435495

3. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8841137

4. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8631622

5. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9190234

6. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3039061

sorry if i chose to many, thanks in advance

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4 hours ago, hilmz88 said:

hello guys what laptop would you recommend out of these if any ? i like to play with quite high settings with all leagues loaded on view only and quite a large database of players loaded

 

1. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1690000

2. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8435495

3. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8841137

4. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8631622

5. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9190234

6. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3039061

sorry if i chose to many, thanks in advance

I'd go with the last one (https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3039061) - it has the best processor of all the ones you linked, 8GB RAM, an SSD hard drive as well as a larger 1TB HDD, and a decent dedicated graphics card. 

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On 02/11/2019 at 09:52, kevhamster said:

Depends.... In theory yes, but I believe the 3D graphics are a bit more demanding this year. 

I was able to play FM19 absolutely fine on my Swift3 laptop.. 20 is completely unplayable. 

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10 minutes ago, CAGSEN said:

The newegg one.  The CPU is stronger. 

Both are very good however.

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35 dakika önce, kevhamster said:

The newegg one.  The CPU is stronger. 

Both are very good however.

Thanks you mate

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Hi, 

 

Looking to get a new laptop, FM is the only game I play and I don't do too much else on my laptop as I have a separate work laptop. 

 

Looking at spending around £600-700 - I have had a brief look around and I think I like the ASUS TUF FX505, but I'm not really a techy person so any help would be really appreciated.

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-Gaming-R5-3550H-GeForce-Windows/dp/B07S2ZLNS2/

 

Thank you

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18 hours ago, kevhamster said:

Depends really. 

I don't see any point in paying that much more for the second one. 

The other one, once in stock, may be worth it if you'll be doing anything else which requires a dedicated graphics card (other games primarily). 

FM doesn't need a dedicated graphics card, so if FM is the only game you play you may be hard pushed to justify paying an extra £300.

But, the choice is absolutely yours! :)

Very much appreciated. Helpfully the one I decided on that we discussed us out if stock until at least the weekend. 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-envy-x360-15-6-amd-ryzen-7-2-in-1-512-gb-ssd-black-10193313-pdt.html

I can't work out the difference between that and the 13.3" screen but I'm tempted to wait until the Ryzen 15 is back in stock...

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-envy-x360-13-3-amd-ryzen-7-2-in-1-laptop-512-gb-ssd-black-10193317-pdt.html

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19 minutes ago, stato_bennett said:

Very much appreciated. Helpfully the one I decided on that we discussed us out if stock until at least the weekend. 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-envy-x360-15-6-amd-ryzen-7-2-in-1-512-gb-ssd-black-10193313-pdt.html

I can't work out the difference between that and the 13.3" screen but I'm tempted to wait until the Ryzen 15 is back in stock...

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-envy-x360-13-3-amd-ryzen-7-2-in-1-laptop-512-gb-ssd-black-10193317-pdt.html

They appear identical, aside from the screen size, and understandably the one with the larger screen has a worse battery life (which may or not be a factor depending on whether you ever use it unplugged or not).

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Hi guys, hoping for a bit of advice.

 

Been looking into updated my current laptop. im not looking to spend mega bucks on one so im realistic in my exptectations however i just wanted to ask your opinions on whether the below is worth buying. happy for any suggestions of others around the similar price.

 

Thanks!

 

https://www.laptopoutlet.co.uk/asus-tuf-fx505dy-bq008t-15-6-full-hd-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-3550h-8gb-ram-1tb-8gb-sshd-amd-radeon-rx-560x-4gb-graphics-backlit-keyboard-windows-10-90nr01a2-m00100.html

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Hi don’t know if this is the right place to post but if anyone can help it would be much appreciated.

i need a laptop for under roughly £300 to run football manager 2020 really well. Is this possible? The sole reason for the laptop is to play the game will not be used for anything else so I don’t care if it can’t do anything other than work great for FM.

I currently have a laptop I’m using for it but it’s too slow even to watch replays.. 

thanks 

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Hi guys.

I am just wondering whether this laptop I have will run fm20 easily?

Really liking the look of the new features, especially after seeing videos on YouTube, so will be purchasing when it’s on sale, if my laptop is good enough.

I normally play all leagues in England and Scotland, and the top two leagues in France, Italy, Germany and Holland, on a medium database.

https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GL62-7QF/Specification

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If i was looking for a laptop for FM with a budget of 600, Which would be able to handle 3d no problem and a few leagues would i be pushing my luck or can anyone make any recomendations 

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3 hours ago, RGreenland said:

Hi don’t know if this is the right place to post but if anyone can help it would be much appreciated.

i need a laptop for under roughly £300 to run football manager 2020 really well. Is this possible? The sole reason for the laptop is to play the game will not be used for anything else so I don’t care if it can’t do anything other than work great for FM.

I currently have a laptop I’m using for it but it’s too slow even to watch replays.. 

thanks 

For £300, and run it really well? No, unless you're buying a refurbished or second hand laptop, to run the game well you're looking at double your budget.

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6 minutes ago, cris182 said:

If i was looking for a laptop for FM with a budget of 600, Which would be able to handle 3d no problem and a few leagues would i be pushing my luck or can anyone make any recomendations 

If you'd be able to push the budget to £630, you could get this beauty, which would fairly easily handle 3D and more than just a few leagues if you wanted a bigger save - https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1690000

Otherwise, if £600 is a hard border, these might suit: https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9174243

The first one is a fairly decent step up for only £30 extra though.

 

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Hi team, can anyone tell me how any of these will go running FM and which would be best?

https://www.harveynorman.com.au/asus-zenbook-ux433fn-a5037t-14-inch-laptop.html

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/hp-spectre-x360-13-ae010tu-touchscreen-laptop

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/lenovo-yoga-s730-13-3-full-hd-laptop-512gb

 

I need something small and light for work and travel, so needs to be under 15" screen 

Thanks

 

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38 minutes ago, Redfearn said:

Hi team, can anyone tell me how any of these will go running FM and which would be best?

https://www.harveynorman.com.au/asus-zenbook-ux433fn-a5037t-14-inch-laptop.html

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/hp-spectre-x360-13-ae010tu-touchscreen-laptop

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/lenovo-yoga-s730-13-3-full-hd-laptop-512gb

 

I need something small and light for work and travel, so needs to be under 15" screen 

Thanks

 

The last one i would think.

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Looking at buying a new laptop wondering if anyone has suggestions for a laptop that runs FM well with lots of leagues and 3D match engine??

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Hi guys would these be any use?

 

https://www.harveynorman.com.au/lenovo-ideapad-s340-1p-15-inch-laptop.html?CAWELAID=720013240000492305&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2ITuBRDkARIsAMK9Q7PO1aoaPYMKC4PZLM1yJj4bLk4knbIpUQCj3VgiLe9oqRqQx-fvxYgaApmEEALw_wcB

 

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/acer-swift-3-sf314-41-r3wz-14-full-hd-laptop

 

 

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Hi, I need a cheapish laptop purely to play football manager on, i don't know much about the specifications and laptops in general so can anyone give me some feedback on if this would be a good fit? 

 

i just want to have a few english playable leagues with medium database.

 

How does this one look? https://www.box.co.uk/NX.EFHEK.014-Acer-Extensa-15-2540_2312768.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI24zGnYfT5QIVmLPtCh2angrSEAQYAiABEgI-8_D_BwE

 

also this which is £50 cheaper and i can't really tell the differences . suitable? https://www.box.co.uk/NX.EFREK.014-Acer-Extensa-15_2612001.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIr4TFmYrT5QIVh7PtCh1KeAG8EAQYBSABEgLxs_D_BwE

 

any advice appreciated thanks

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1 hour ago, LewyMc said:

The second one is the one I'd go for - the processor is probably slightly better in the first one, but the second one has 1080p resolution which makes a huge difference with FM in my opinion.  If I had to choose, I'd take the potential (slight) hit in processing speeds for the better display.  I've played FM in both 1080p and 1366x768, and personally think it's a much better experience with the higher resolution due to the lower resolution struggling to fit everything you need on the screen.

Either will run FM though.

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41 minutes ago, RGreenland said:

Hi, I need a cheapish laptop purely to play football manager on, i don't know much about the specifications and laptops in general so can anyone give me some feedback on if this would be a good fit? 

 

i just want to have a few english playable leagues with medium database.

 

How does this one look? https://www.box.co.uk/NX.EFHEK.014-Acer-Extensa-15-2540_2312768.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI24zGnYfT5QIVmLPtCh2angrSEAQYAiABEgI-8_D_BwE

 

also this which is £50 cheaper and i can't really tell the differences . suitable? https://www.box.co.uk/NX.EFREK.014-Acer-Extensa-15_2612001.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIr4TFmYrT5QIVh7PtCh1KeAG8EAQYBSABEgLxs_D_BwE

 

any advice appreciated thanks

Of those, I'd actually go for the cheaper one.  The cheaper one has an 8th gen i3 processor, where as the other one has a 7th gen i5.  The benchmarking sites suggest the new i3 is slightly better with its single core performance, although the base clock speed is lower.  

Truth be told, there is very little in it and there may well be some benefits in going for the i5 one that I'm unaware of.

But if I was choosing between those two, I would go for the model with the i3 in this case.

Both will run FM with the with the configuration you've stated with no trouble.

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43 minutes ago, hilmz88 said:

What laptop would you go for out of these 2 ? 

 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1690000

 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9190234

 

Is there a big difference ? Thanks 

I'm not sure how the Intel Optane thing works - it seems to be suggesting that it uses some of the storage space like RAM.  Having never used it myself and knowing very little about it, I don't feel I can answer about which one is better.

Either of these will run FM quite nicely, however I don't feel I can suggest one over the other as I don't know enough about Octane memory.   Maybe someone else here knows something about it?

What I can tell you with confidence though is the cheaper one has the better CPU and also appears to have a slightly better GPU as well.

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Hi guys, really informative thread and learned a lot reading through it all, my laptop is 7 years old so im having an upgrade just in time for fm20.

My budget is about £700 although i would be willing to go to higher, i always play with a large database with about 5/6 leagues loaded.

I have done my own research already and have narrowed it down to the 3 linked below:

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3039061

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1690000

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

I would like to know which one you would recommend out of these or give me a better suggestion for around my price range, i would be willing to go to an absolute limit of £850 for a laptop that is substantially better.

Thank you

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Hi Guys

Looking to buy Son new laptop for about £375 if possible.

He generally only runs all English Leagues with large database,

 

TIA Guys

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42 minutes ago, thnigelfc said:

Hi Guys

Looking to buy Son new laptop for about £375 if possible.

He generally only runs all English Leagues with large database,

 

TIA Guys

https://www.box.co.uk/7DC73EAABU-HP-255-G7_2580199.html

This one is very similar spec to the laptop I currently use (same CPU and amount of RAM as mine), which runs FM19 pretty quickly and with more leagues than you've mentioned.  In fact, it should be quicker than mine as it uses SSD rather than a Hard Drive.

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3 hours ago, Joshbcfc1 said:

Hi guys, really informative thread and learned a lot reading through it all, my laptop is 7 years old so im having an upgrade just in time for fm20.

My budget is about £700 although i would be willing to go to higher, i always play with a large database with about 5/6 leagues loaded.

I have done my own research already and have narrowed it down to the 3 linked below:

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3039061

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1690000

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

I would like to know which one you would recommend out of these or give me a better suggestion for around my price range, i would be willing to go to an absolute limit of £850 for a laptop that is substantially better.

Thank you

Any of those will run FM well.

The Argos ones have the better CPU and GPU, but the one at Box runs on SSD which will reap some overall performance benefits (but I'm not sure how much it will make up with regards to the processor).  

I think the key consideration will need to be what else you'll use the laptop for and how much storage space you need.

Personally, if I had to pick one of the three myself, I'd probably go for the £699.00 one from Argos.

 

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Hi,

 

Looking to upgrade from my ageing MacBook to a new laptop ready for FM20. My MacBook has been on its last legs for the last few seasons and is now just getting too hot/slow to even run on 2d even with a fan mat.

PCWorld have offered me a £160 voucher for it as trade in which I'm going to accept, therefore I'm limited to only buying from them. Don't want another Macbook, so going for windows, especially as the laptop will only be used for FM. Have a budget of £500 (after the voucher) and want to get an SSD (128gb is plenty) and 8gb RAM. Therefore my main question is whether I'd see a big difference between an I3 or I5 processor. I only play with 3-4 leagues loaded so it shouldn't be too processor intensive. I'd also like to play in 3d but this isn't hugely important. I've listed below the ones that I'm looking at from PC world. Any advice on which is best or others that they sell there?

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-s340-14-amd-ryzen-3-laptop-128-gb-ssd-blue-10193743-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-s340-14-amd-ryzen-5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-grey-10193270-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-5-a515-43-15-6-amd-ryzen-5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-black-10193913-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-14-cf1599sa-14-intel-core-i5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-silver-10192179-pdt.html

 

Thanks!

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On 04/11/2019 at 22:34, JordanMillward_1 said:

If you'd be able to push the budget to £630, you could get this beauty, which would fairly easily handle 3D and more than just a few leagues if you wanted a bigger save - https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1690000

Otherwise, if £600 is a hard border, these might suit: https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9174243

The first one is a fairly decent step up for only £30 extra though.

 

I couldn’t agree more. I have spend every evening of the last month researching the market and £600+ is what is needed to get a gaming laptop to run FM well.

The first link to Argos is the best I had also found on the market, I’m just holding out until Black Friday to see if it goes in.

A tech man once told me, buy cheap and buy twice and it’s so true. Either spend £600+ or not at all in my view.

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I'm just putting some feelers out at this point. My budget is probably £600 max.

For a little context, my current laptop is bearable running say 5 or 6 leagues for 5 or 6 seasons before the processing just grinds to a halt. I play mainly in 2D because it doesn't handle the 3D engine very well.

What I'd like is a machine capable of handling 4 or 5 nations with all leagues loaded, so I can do some journeyman saves or be able to play on past 5 or 6 seasons in general without it becoming a grind and for the 3D engine to be at least smooth and watchable. I'll still probably play the majority in 2D but highlights and the odd 3D game would be nice, but the processing speed for multiple nations/leagues is of more importance to me.

I don't mind going down the route of a reconditioned machine if it means more bang for my buck but I'm looking for some recommendations in this price range to keep an eye on for Black Friday.

EDIT: And anything in the £400 range as that might be more realistic.

Thanks in advance guys. :thup:

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I want to buy one of these laptops asap,  please can someone who knows a lot more than i do about this sort of thing tell me which is the best for running football manager 2020, the only use for the laptop will be to play this game so i just need to know which is better out the 3 for it.

 

any advice much apprciated,

 

https://www.box.co.uk/NX.EFREK.014-Acer-Extensa-15_2612001.html

https://www.box.co.uk/7DE72EAABU-HP-255-G7_2580254.html

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-V330-14ARR-81B1001EUK-Processor-Display/dp/B07KKK4SLQ

 

thanks very much

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1 hour ago, RGreenland said:

I want to buy one of these laptops asap,  please can someone who knows a lot more than i do about this sort of thing tell me which is the best for running football manager 2020, the only use for the laptop will be to play this game so i just need to know which is better out the 3 for it.

 

any advice much apprciated,

 

https://www.box.co.uk/NX.EFREK.014-Acer-Extensa-15_2612001.html

https://www.box.co.uk/7DE72EAABU-HP-255-G7_2580254.html

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-V330-14ARR-81B1001EUK-Processor-Display/dp/B07KKK4SLQ

 

thanks very much

 anyone? :(

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4 hours ago, RGreenland said:

I'd go for either the Ryzen 5, or i3.  Either will work fine for FM.  Both seem quite similar - it looks like the Ryzen 5 has better multi-core performance overall, but the i3 scores a bit better on the single-core performance (which I believe is the bigger factor for FM), but there doesn't seem to be much in it.

One thing I do know, is the Ryzen 5 does seem to have better integrated graphics than the intels, but that is less of an issue for FM generally (unless you want to play 3D at the higher settings, then you may see a difference there - although I couldn't tell you how much).

My laptop has the same Ryzen 5 CPU as the Amazon one, and runs FM19 very well with 8 nations loaded with all divisions (England, Scotland, France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Netherlands and Belgium).

I've not tested it with FM20 yet as it's been off for repair, but I have no reason to think that would be any different.

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On 04/11/2019 at 22:34, JordanMillward_1 said:

If you'd be able to push the budget to £630, you could get this beauty, which would fairly easily handle 3D and more than just a few leagues if you wanted a bigger save - https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1690000

Otherwise, if £600 is a hard border, these might suit: https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9174243

The first one is a fairly decent step up for only £30 extra though.

 

Apologies but me again, If i can stretch to 700 what would you recommend me? I may be able to do so now 

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6 minutes ago, cris182 said:

Apologies but me again, If i can stretch to 700 what would you recommend me? I may be able to do so now 

This is a very good one at that price point:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-nitro-5-an515-54-intel-core-i5-gtx-1050-gaming-laptop-512-gb-ssd-10199732-pdt.html

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3 minutes ago, Joshbcfc1 said:

Right, this is at the absolute top of my budget:

https://www.box.co.uk/9S7-17F212-252-16GB-MSI-GF75-Thin-9SC_2759297.html

Before i take the plunge and buy it is there anything else that is better at that price or under?

Thanks

Are we talking purely for FM?  What other things/games will it be used for?

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Hi, 

I am currently playing fm18 on my surface pro 4, still runs great and I'm in my 20th season with a large database and play on 3d. I will be getting fm20 and I'm thinking of ugrading and buying the surface laptop 2 or 3. 

 

Anyone got any experience on playing FM on the surface laptops? I'm looking at getting the i5, 8gb version. The only downside I can see is they have dedicated graphics cards. Currently the 3d works dine on my pro 4 dedicated graphics card but will 20 be ok? The laptop will only be for FM and nothing else and will need to be suitable for the next few years of fm. 

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7 hours ago, RGreenland said:

I want to buy one of these laptops asap,  please can someone who knows a lot more than i do about this sort of thing tell me which is the best for running football manager 2020, the only use for the laptop will be to play this game so i just need to know which is better out the 3 for it.

 

any advice much apprciated,

 

https://www.box.co.uk/NX.EFREK.014-Acer-Extensa-15_2612001.html

https://www.box.co.uk/7DE72EAABU-HP-255-G7_2580254.html

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-V330-14ARR-81B1001EUK-Processor-Display/dp/B07KKK4SLQ

 

thanks very much

The graphic cards on these laptops are too poor to run FM well. They will do the job, but you will have to adjust you expectations on game speed. To run FM well, you need to be looking at at least £600 plus on a gaming laptop. 

 

For around £600 you’d get something around an 8GB RAM, GTX 1050 graphics card and an 8th or 9th gen intel processor

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Anyone using Nvidia MP250 as graphic card?

Experience?

I like having around 30.000 players loaded and 2 or 3 playable leagues. Dont use 3D.

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1 hour ago, Derbylad82 said:

The graphic cards on these laptops are too poor to run FM well. They will do the job, but you will have to adjust you expectations on game speed. To run FM well, you need to be looking at at least £600 plus on a gaming laptop. 

 

For around £600 you’d get something around an 8GB RAM, GTX 1050 graphics card and an 8th or 9th gen intel processor

This advice couldn't be any more wrong. 

You don't need a dedicated graphics card at all. 

You need a reasonable CPU and ideally at least 8GB RAM. The only thing the graphics card will change is what quality you can play the 3D match engine. And even then, I've got a laptop with a Ryzen 5 2500U and the integrated graphics on that handled the 3D match engine on FM19 at high settings. 

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24 minutes ago, Pierce007 said:

Anyone using Nvidia MP250 as graphic card?

Experience?

I like having around 30.000 players loaded and 2 or 3 playable leagues. Dont use 3D.

Then you don't need to worry about what GPU your computer has.  Focus on the CPU and having at least 8GB RAM. 

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