tuffboy Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 In balista what is playmaker and target man ? in balista put this instructions in striker? http://community.sigames.com/showthr...61#post7589361 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big H Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 This tactic is ridiculously good. If anybody can find a btter FM12 tactic then they are a better man than me. I'm Man City, so it isn't hard, but I've been beating Real Madrod 7-0 and United 5-0 at Old Trafford. Have done the treble in 1st season. I've done like-for-like tests with other tactcis and nothing touches this one - just wish I'd founds it sooner! Great work!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffboy Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 This tactic is ridiculously good. If anybody can find a btter FM12 tactic then they are a better man than me. I'm Man City, so it isn't hard, but I've been beating Real Madrod 7-0 and United 5-0 at Old Trafford. Have done the treble in 1st season. I've done like-for-like tests with other tactcis and nothing touches this one - just wish I'd founds it sooner! Great work!!! What tactic you use balista ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 In balista what is playmaker and target man ?in balista put this instructions in striker? http://community.sigames.com/showthr...61#post7589361 if you down loaded the balista you dont need to tick it, but if you want to use the exploit goals goals.... you have to and put the striker there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 This tactic is ridiculously good. If anybody can find a btter FM12 tactic then they are a better man than me. I'm Man City, so it isn't hard, but I've been beating Real Madrod 7-0 and United 5-0 at Old Trafford. Have done the treble in 1st season. I've done like-for-like tests with other tactcis and nothing touches this one - just wish I'd founds it sooner! Great work!!!wil you put some screenshot up please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 if you down loaded the balista you dont need to tick it, but if you want to use the exploit goals goals.... you have to and put the striker there obviously its going to score you goals, as shown by the screenshots. However, will making this change affect the movement of the tactic as it was intended to be. I say this because obviously if the tactic was intended for the striker to come deep and let the wingers advance and overlap to score goals, then changing the striker settings might contradict the settings of the tactic. Does this make sense to you? or is this just my thinking lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 yeah i no what you saying but i do think it works. i wunt say it other wise lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manager2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 it works bellamy scored Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltjon Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 works only in 12.1.1. or also in 12.0.4 ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manager2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 iv got steam updated to the lates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smgers Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Have downloaded this but confused now as to what this striker exploit is? Is it built into the tactic or do you have to tweak it? Also do you have to use a playmaker and target man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
y0nutz Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 crawgs can you upload the balista tactic using the tweak to the striker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 crawgs can you upload the balista tactic using the tweak to the striker?on page #1. Remember to select your striker in set pieces Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinli Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 cragswfc, what skin is tat when there number beside the tactic slider? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
y0nutz Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 thanks mate btw what skin is this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 cragswfc, what skin is tat when there number beside the tactic slider? http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/283538-FM2012-Numbered-Tactical-Sliders-modification thanks matebtw what skin is this i got it from sortiout forgot name sorry it could be OPZ Beam skin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 this is my new striker I've got this season with my career save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvito2k Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 could you please upload the tactic tweak in another host? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 could you please upload the tactic tweak in another host?yes go here http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/football-manager-2012-tactics-training/93883-goals-goals-goals-more-goals.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebetu Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Im season 3 with Norwich and gameplay from Balista tactic is different and not so efficient as in previous seasons and im geting bored already .I can tell this for sure and i mean here the 3 upfront behind striker play worse with much lesser assists than in previeous 2 seasons despite having better wingers/amc.I win most matches with 2-1 3-1 3-2 at limit(and this with having really good players i should rip teams apart now but i dont) now im not scoring machine anymore think tactic is getting cracked by AI and its loose from his efficiency and like many other says about almost all tactics it seems that is not myth after all and yes tactics are better countered by AI after more seasons.And still despite this tactic is still pretty good and even as countered by AI i still manage to remain top of the table and having best scorer. Update Season 3 Norwich with his living legend DOMINIQUE MALONGA http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/5852/norwichs3leaguetable.png http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/3421/malongalivinglegend.png http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/9697/malonga.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jor-el321 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 IS the left striker supposed to be the main goal threat? I thought that the right striker was supposed to be the poacher but the LS has been getting loads of goals and RS hardly any. Not complaining, as the tactic is going well, but just wondering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumars Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Would balista with striker tweak work with FM 11? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 Would balista with striker tweak work with FM 11?no made for fm12 but you could copy settings and try Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nt3s3 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 http://www.mediafire.com/?501yxxb21prndv5 http://www.gamefront.com/files/21137386 http://www.gamefront.com/files/21349357/ what's the latest version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 http://www.mediafire.com/?501yxxb21prndv5http://www.gamefront.com/files/21137386 http://www.gamefront.com/files/21349357/ what's the latest version? this http://www.gamefront.com/files/21349357/ its got striker exploit in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLJonesIII Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 this http://www.gamefront.com/files/21349357/ its got striker exploit in Does it work with all teams? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collzy Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 What are the results like with the striker tweak? Used the original for Athletic in first season as a home tactic and finished 2nd overall, runners up in Spanish Cup and won the Europa League. The original balista is a fantastic tactic, was just wondering with the tweaks if it makes it even better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jor-el321 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Still using the 4-2-2-2. Started off great, couple of 4-0s and a 7-0, now we seem to be struggling. IMO for this tactic to work your left striker needs to be on fire. Does the striker expoit work for the original 4-2-2-2? If so what exactly is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sando123 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 really cant get the team talks right i use what people say on here but theres always a player that looks stressed or down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Does it work with all teams?i think it does What are the results like with the striker tweak? Used the original for Athletic in first season as a home tactic and finished 2nd overall, runners up in Spanish Cup and won the Europa League. The original balista is a fantastic tactic, was just wondering with the tweaks if it makes it even better? make the striker score more Still using the 4-2-2-2. Started off great, couple of 4-0s and a 7-0, now we seem to be struggling. IMO for this tactic to work your left striker needs to be on fire. Does the striker expoit work for the original 4-2-2-2? If so what exactly is it? the striker exploit works with any tactic really cant get the team talks right i use what people say on here but theres always a player that looks stressed or downi hate team talks . I struggle with them, but el magico89 put some up in his thread i might use Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jor-el321 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Finding that the 4-2-2-2 is terrible against top teams away from home. Lost 3-0 at Arsenal (who aren't actually doing very well in the league) and (the one that nearly led to the lap top getting thrown from the window) a 3-2 loss against a ten man Man City (Toure sent off in 21 min). You just get that feeling that everytime they have a chance its going in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collzy Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I've actually found using the striker tweak works better without adding a targetman, thats just my personal experience though, but it has worked better for me.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sando123 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 i hate team talks . I struggle with them, but el magico89 put some up in his thread i might use i put i expect a win in all ways i can and players switch off, i said show me what you have got players switch off i either make them to relaxed have no reaction or they go in a mood with me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jor-el321 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Team talks are a bitch on this version and there is FAR too much reliance on them. You can be on a decent run of results with teamtalks going well but all of a sudden players can get very poor morale for absolutely no reason at all. I've followed advice on half time team talks from other people. I say expect a win and it works, they all get motivated (or most do) and yet still go out and concede with the first 5 mins of the 2nd half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavery Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Jor-el321, you should try to team talks of koflok. cragswfc, this is the best tactic for FM 12, the results are amazing. Thank you very much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collzy Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Team talks are a bitch on this version and there is FAR too much reliance on them.You can be on a decent run of results with teamtalks going well but all of a sudden players can get very poor morale for absolutely no reason at all. I've followed advice on half time team talks from other people. I say expect a win and it works, they all get motivated (or most do) and yet still go out and concede with the first 5 mins of the 2nd half. I found some team talks which worked quite well for me, but I agree they are over exagerated on this version too much Pre match: Assertive - Last option Half time: Losing/drawing: Aggressive - Last option Winning: Passionate - Last option Full time: Lost/drawn: Aggressive - Last option Won: Passionate - Last option Obviously adapt to your team, if you're a league 2 team and lost by one goal to Man Utd at Old Trafford then saying aggressively their performance wasn't good enough would be a bit harsh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
syntese Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I am just wondering, is it harder to win the CL with teams from weaker leagues? On my Arsenal save, I won the CL 8 years in a row with this tactic. The level of that team was 81 % according to FMRTE. By the same standard my struggling Porto side is 78 %. The player types are exactly the same. So what's happening? I have been playing 5 complete CL campaigns, reaching one 1/8 final, two quarter finals and two semi-finals, and this season I will probably only reach the 1/8 final again. I have pretty much looked without a chance to win the thing, and I am struggling to see the massive difference in performance between my Porto and Arsenal team can be explained by player quality. Is it down to league reputation, or something else? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collzy Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I am just wondering, is it harder to win the CL with teams from weaker leagues? On my Arsenal save, I won the CL 8 years in a row with this tactic. The level of that team was 81 % according to FMRTE. By the same standard my struggling Porto side is 78 %. The player types are exactly the same. So what's happening? I have been playing 5 complete CL campaigns, reaching one 1/8 final, two quarter finals and two semi-finals, and this season I will probably only reach the 1/8 final again. I have pretty much looked without a chance to win the thing, and I am struggling to see the massive difference in performance between my Porto and Arsenal team can be explained by player quality. Is it down to league reputation? I think it could partly be down to team rep. too. I presume Arsenal have a higher reputation than Porto, making teams a bit more cautious against them whereas Porto they probably feel they can attack a bit more due to the lower reputation making your team a bit more under pressure. I partly found this too, when I managed Arsenal I got a lot more sucess in European competitions than I did with Athletic Bilbao despite having similar strength teams (after a few seasons) Wouldn't take my word on it though, just an idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 Jor-el321, you should try to team talks of koflok.cragswfc, this is the best tactic for FM 12, the results are amazing. Thank you very much which 1 mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavery Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Latest version with striker tweak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nas2439 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Latest version with striker tweak. i think this one Mr Hough Tweak by W4NKER Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 i used the 4-2-3-1 away at the emarates not many balls to my striker. all goals scored were from corners (when you got a defender with 19 jump 18 head and 18 strength that happens anyway) it was far more competative then the usual away day at a big club though going to try the 4-2-2-2 as that is my current formation (without all the tweaks in this thread) so i can compare it better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jor-el321 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I found some team talks which worked quite well for me, but I agree they are over exagerated on this version too muchPre match: Assertive - Last option Half time: Losing/drawing: Aggressive - Last option Winning: Passionate - Last option Full time: Lost/drawn: Aggressive - Last option Won: Passionate - Last option Obviously adapt to your team, if you're a league 2 team and lost by one goal to Man Utd at Old Trafford then saying aggressively their performance wasn't good enough would be a bit harsh Thanks for the help mate, i will give it a try Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jor-el321 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 The 4-2-2-2 goes from the sublime to the ridiculous especially away from home. I won the CL last year with Liverpool, beating Madrid along the way 6-3 and 4-1. I even beat Barca in the final 4-1. Then i start the new season and beat Utd in the CS 4-0, however i then go to City and lose 6-1, come back home and beat Newcastle 5-1, then go away to West Ham and lose 4-0. Really at my wits end trying to discover the reasons for the massive differences. I thought i had away games cracked when i brought the 2 AMR/L back to midfield but it didn't last long. City completely have my number. They play an attacking narrow 4-2-3-1 and consistently hammer me away from home. Is the narrow 4-2-3-1 this tactics kryptonite? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaskiew Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 The 4-2-2-2 goes from the sublime to the ridiculous especially away from home.I won the CL last year with Liverpool, beating Madrid along the way 6-3 and 4-1. I even beat Barca in the final 4-1. Then i start the new season and beat Utd in the CS 4-0, however i then go to City and lose 6-1, come back home and beat Newcastle 5-1, then go away to West Ham and lose 4-0. Really at my wits end trying to discover the reasons for the massive differences. I thought i had away games cracked when i brought the 2 AMR/L back to midfield but it didn't last long. City completely have my number. They play an attacking narrow 4-2-3-1 and consistently hammer me away from home. Is the narrow 4-2-3-1 this tactics kryptonite? I am using the 4-1-1-2-2 Optimus which has a defensive mid and cm, similar to yours and i say i hate to play against 4-2-3-1. Always face my toughest and games lost or drawn to 4-2-3-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jor-el321 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I am using the 4-1-1-2-2 Optimus which has a defensive mid and cm, similar to yours and i say i hate to play against 4-2-3-1. Always face my toughest and games lost or drawn to 4-2-3-1. Annoying isn't it. I've found that playing against the wide 4-2-3-1 (Real Madrid, PSG) isn't so bad, but the narrow one with Aguero at the head is a killer. This is honestly the first tactic that i have enjoyed using on FM12 which is why i really want to solve the randomness of the whole thing. I'm shipping loads of loads of goals (especially away from home) but alot of the time my defenders are not getting really bad scores. I don't know *sigh* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 i tried the 4-2-2-2 played average and lost. and for some reason it saves the settings of fluidity and playstyle (defencive attacking etc) as the previous selected formation, as is locked so i cant change it, nor change anything bar the players. doesnt seem to be doing anything with strikers goalscoring. and again lost. not working at all, just hoofing the ball the 4-3-2-1 was even worse when it "reset" to balanced and standard as well. getting a pain. right followed the teamtalk advice for my away trip in the same game as i tried. won 2-1 but was not convinced as man of the match was my keeper and was nowhere in the game until one counter attacking goal. i hate facing 4-2-3-1 for some reason. pain in the backside to counter. also is the way the corners set up, set up in a particular way, because my defender with high jumping/heading is pressuring keeper rather then getting on the end of the corner kicks not convinced still but i'm stuck with dumb away games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaskiew Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Annoying isn't it. I've found that playing against the wide 4-2-3-1 (Real Madrid, PSG) isn't so bad, but the narrow one with Aguero at the head is a killer.This is honestly the first tactic that i have enjoyed using on FM12 which is why i really want to solve the randomness of the whole thing. I'm shipping loads of loads of goals (especially away from home) but alot of the time my defenders are not getting really bad scores. I don't know *sigh* Narrow 4231? you mean how city plays, 3AM instead of wide wingers? like this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaskiew Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I am using 4-1-1-2-2 Optimus By Qetesh V.2 exclusively now. http://www.fm-thai.com/board/index.php?showtopic=104139 http://www.mediafire.com/?xzr95bxhbbxzza2 My experience with this tactic and why i like it better than most of the rest. Once prepared tactics is fluid and with decent morale, you will see consistent results coming. Eventually towards the 2nd half of the season, you will perform more consistently after the team has gel-ed together. You will still have good amount of goals and defensively good too. But the best thing about this tactic is, comes 2nd to 3rd season, somehow the amount of goals scored will shoot over the roof and will go beyond 100 points pretty often. It is not uncommon to have like 130 goals at the end of the season, maybe not your first season, first season perhaps 90 to 100? I am not exactly sure what in thai the thread mentioned despite translating it. Once prepared tactic is fluid, i play at either average or very low with attacking movement all the time, home and away. (thou the thread seems to say put it at teamwork but attacking movement works well for me) My STR will score loads, he doesn't close down as much as the STL so i have my faster striker there. The MCL seems to be the engine of the team and if he does well, your game will do much better. The wingers does well enough especially 2nd/3rd season with loads of assists. Best player i have had in AML is Douglas Costa if you can get him. DCR has corner routine so will contribute some goals. Alot of goals comes on counter attacks, and it is nice to see crosses and goals from these counters. Best if have fast wingers and a fast right striker. You may conceal easily if you lose procession trying to counter and get countered instead. Sums it up, This is the best tactic I've ever used for FM 2012. better than tweak or Mr Hughs. very consistent, excellent attack. Balista was also good but Optimus V.2 is killer, no tactic comes close for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big H Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I am using 4-1-1-2-2 Optimus By Qetesh V.2 exclusively now. http://www.fm-thai.com/board/index.php?showtopic=104139 http://www.mediafire.com/?xzr95bxhbbxzza2 My experience with this tactic and why i like it better than most of the rest. Once prepared tactics is fluid and with decent morale, you will see consistent results coming. Eventually towards the 2nd half of the season, you will perform more consistently after the team has gel-ed together. You will still have good amount of goals and defensively good too. But the best thing about this tactic is, comes 2nd to 3rd season, somehow the amount of goals scored will shoot over the roof and will go beyond 100 points pretty often. It is not uncommon to have like 130 goals at the end of the season, maybe not your first season, first season perhaps 90 to 100? I am not exactly sure what in thai the thread mentioned despite translating it. Once prepared tactic is fluid, i play at either average or very low with attacking movement all the time, home and away. (thou the thread seems to say put it at teamwork but attacking movement works well for me) My STR will score loads, he doesn't close down as much as the STL so i have my faster striker there. The MCL seems to be the engine of the team and if he does well, your game will do much better. The wingers does well enough especially 2nd/3rd season with loads of assists. Best player i have had in AML is Douglas Costa if you can get him. DCR has corner routine so will contribute some goals. Alot of goals comes on counter attacks, and it is nice to see crosses and goals from these counters. Best if have fast wingers and a fast right striker. You may conceal easily if you lose procession trying to counter and get countered instead. Sums it up, This is the best tactic I've ever used for FM 2012. better than tweak or Mr Hughs. very consistent, excellent attack. Balista was also good but Optimus V.2 is killer, no tactic comes close for me. Great find mate, I've been using Balista 4-3-2-1 and I didn't think it could be bettered, but this one is probably even better. They are both amazing. There are some really good tactics for FM12, but none come close to these two so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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