[FM22] Overhauling SAD Franchise, (completed) and now Portugal. (Portugese edition). (Youth Only)............... Maybe!

[abulezz]

2 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

NxGn 2027. 

 Porto have only won 1 of the last 5 Premeira Liga titles, (Sporting winning the other 4), but it would seem that they scouting system is working well if they can recruit a player like this for such a modest fee. 

 A 2nd youngster on the list who is at Porto. This time a product of their Academy, but questions remain as to whether he is getting enough game-time to aid his development. 

 Farense spent last season in the Segunda Liga which was perfect for his development. Although they are bottom and almost sure to be relegated again, the exposure to top tier football will surely have benefitted his development. It will be interesting to see if he stays at Farense next season after they are relegated, (with just 1 year left on his contract). 

 A product of the Benfica Academy, he has been a regular in the Benfica B side this season. 

 A phenomenal signing on a free by Braga. 

Battistini's looks a like gold so far. 

[Jimbokav1971]

38 minutes ago, abulezz said:

Battistini's looks a like gold so far. 

Just because you don't like "a bit of rough"...... 

[Jimbokav1971]

Mar & Apr 2027. 

Segunda Liga. We've really hit form at just the right time and moved up to 3rd in the league, (effectively 2nd as Benfica B don't count), and are 4 points ahead of Felgueiras in 5th with 2 games to play. We have a really good chance of making the Playoffs, and a reasonable chance of automatic qualification. 

Goal-scoring GK's. 

 

Club vision. I'm sure we got this message last season too. 

Finances.   

[Jimbokav1971]

May 2027. 

Segunda Liga. At the end of Jan we were 11 points behind Mafra and we finished the season 7 points ahead of them. That's an enormous 18 point swing that I thought we had no chance of pulling off. P.Ferreira held their form a little better to secure 2nd place, (behind Benfica B who can't be promoted), but Mafra lost 7 of their last 8 games and surely have absolutely no chance of winning the Playoffs. Anyway, who cares! We will be playing in the Premeira Liga next season. 

Goal-scoring GK's. For the 2nd successive season (23e) Valente (POR) 6'4" hits double-figure goals, beating last season's 12 by 1 in hitting 13 goals this season. 

Finances.   

[Jimbokav1971]

Run in. May 2027. 

I'm well-chuffed with our run of form towards the end of the season. 

[iamnobody]

Great job.  Do you think there will be enough money in the Premier league to get you out of debt?

[raz4la]

17 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

I love PPM's and I have quite a clear idea in my head of what I want players to do and how PPM's accentuate that. 

Without going off on a tangent too much, (I have already planned to do so at some point in the future in this thread), I 'm an enormous fan of "gets forward wherever possible" for full-backs, I love "switches play" for central playmakers, and this year I have tried to do the following in this order. 

Switches play, Tries long range passes, Dictates Tempo, Tries killer balls

"dives into tackles" is a no brainer for those suited to it. 
I hate "plays with back to goal" unless playing a role that specifically asks for it. 
I like "knocks ball past opponent" for quick wide players, but only if they stay wide. 
I have a player called Becksquita (POR) HG.  He wasn't initially called Becks anything but I changed the front part of his name because he was slow, had great crossing ability and the 1st time I put him on as a sub he took a touch and delivered a phenomenal ball into the far post for a late winner. I've never used "crosses early" before, but it's looking decent so far. 

Places shots used to be OP. 
Takes ball passed GK used to be OP
I absolutely love "lobs GK" and I don't care if it is overpowered or underpowered. It's just aesthetically pleasing. 

I think PPM's are hugely importnat. 

Thanks!

That's one thing that I don't do nearly enough on my save, but might have to start giving out some PPMs to my players to give them something extra.

[Jimbokav1971]

9 minutes ago, iamnobody said:

Great job.  Do you think there will be enough money in the Premier league to get you out of debt?

The truth is I don't know because I have never played in Portugal before.

If I look at wage spend then these are the top 3, (just to give you something to compare it to). 

And this is the bottom. 

I want to try and weed out yo-yo clubs because they will give us a false picture. 

Farense spent 5 seasons in Segunda Liga before this season. 
Arouca spent 5 of the last 6 seasons in Premeira Liga.
Vilafranquense spent 4 pf the last 5 seasons in Premeira Liga.
Santa Clara have spent 9 of the last 10 seasons in Premeira Liga.
TND(Tondela?) have spent 10 of the last 12 seasons in Premeira Liga.
PTM (Portimonense) have spent all of the last 10 seasons in the Premeira Liga, so let's look at them. They spent £3.5M on player wages this season, (we spent £648k) and their ground holds 5,870, (ours holds 19,856), and their average attendance was 4,420, (ours was 7,582). So from a profitability point of view, even taking into account that we've spent £1.1M on Youth Setup costs this season and £1.7M last season), I think we're well capable of bringing in income from player sales to cover that. 

Now lets compare that to the wage spend in the Segunda Liga. 

Even if we take into account that we are spending big on staff wages, (something that I want to continue with because of the ethos of developing everyone rather than just the best players), and we say that the staff wages are double the player wages, then I think that still puts our total wage spend well within the levels of what others in a similar position are spending. 

So I think I'm confidant that we will be financially viable working to the same model, assuming nothing ridiculous happens............ 

[Jimbokav1971]

32 minutes ago, raz4la said:

Thanks!

That's one thing that I don't do nearly enough on my save, but might have to start giving out some PPMs to my players to give them something extra.

I have quite a clear idea in my head of how I want us to play, and the PPM's suit that. I want our full-backs to get forward, (gets further forward), I want my central players to spray the ball about a bit, (switches play & tries long range passes), I want my wide players to run with the ball, (cuts inside from both wings and run with the ball often), and if they're not inverted then I also want them to really stretch the opposition, (knocks ball past opponent). I also want my inverted wide players to come inside into traffic, (plays one-twos). The striking PPM's are based on what suits them as individuals rather than how I want the team to play. 

Just have a clear idea of what you want the player playing in that position to do, and then decide what PPM helps them do it and if it suits them.

[Jimbokav1971]

New stadium. May 2027. 

Rubbish idea. Our maintenance costs were £1.2M last season and £850k so far this season. How much cheaper is a new stadium going to be? 

[Delbrenno]

Congratulations on promotion! Looking forward to seeing your progress in the top division. Hopefully you don’t need to sell any of your better players unless the top clubs come in for them. Maybe get Banaou back to the club? 

[Jimbokav1971]

2 minutes ago, Delbrenno said:

Congratulations on promotion! Looking forward to seeing your progress in the top division. Hopefully you don’t need to sell any of your better players unless the top clubs come in for them. Maybe get Banaou back to the club? 

I think it's unrealistic to expect that we won't be a selling club for a long while yet. 

I fully expect us to continue to be forced to sell players, but to sell them on our terms rather than terms dictated to us is key. 

I will of course be looking to bring Academy products back where possible, and you will get regular "shortlist" updates. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Long term contracts. May 2027. 

During the close season I usually go through all the players at the club and look to extend contracts where needed and activate clauses etc etc. I'm doing that now using this screen. 

The squad is ranked by PA and I'm working my way down the list ensuring that anyone who's contract expires in 2028 is either offered a new contract or has an option taken up to extend their contract. That's on top of the +1 after promotion that almost everyone at the club has and which is about to be triggered. 

Now I have got to (23f) Magalhães (POR) 6'1". He's our best centre-half and his contract expired this season rather than next season, (how did I miss that!) but it's fine because we have a +1 clause so I will just go and trigger that and then I can negotiate a new contract....... wtf! 

He's agreed to join Moreirense who finished 5th in the Primeira Liga last season and will be playing in Europe this season. 

That's a proper schoolboy error and I'm dismayed and disgusted with myself in equal measure.   

I knew his contract was close to expiring, and I knew he had a clause to activate. I just never got around to actually activating it. Until this moment right now I was quietly confidant that we wouldn't even be close to relegation next season. Now..... not so much. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Clauses. May 2027. 

I've mentioned already that there were quite a few players who insisted on min fee release clauses, (for clubs in a higher division), and I was quite happy to do that because most of them agreed to put a very short expiry date on the clause, (that's 1 of my favourite little tricks), and there are only 2 players left at the club who still have active clauses. 

They are 2 of our best 3 players and I "think" that although we haven't yet been promoted, and the window opens before we are technically promoted, the game recognises this and we have nothing to worry about. (I think). 

With that in mind I'm going to get rid of that column and replace it with a "min fee release clause" column and see if there are any in there I need to keep an eye on. There aren't, so that's a result, and there are also none for clubs in European competition or Foreign or anything like that. 

So apart from the absolute debacle with (23f) Magalhães (POR) 6'1", we're all set for the new season. 

[Jimbokav1971]

U19's League performances. 

Not only have I not updated you on this, but I also haven't even been looking myself, (although I know we have been doing well because of messages I've seen). 

The U19's system is split into 2 Group stages I think. 

Right from the off we were competitive and finishing above Porto and Sporting is no small deal, (although I appreciate that their brightest prospects will be playing B Team or senior football). 

The 2nd season was tougher after I started playing our youngsters in the Senior squad.

The 3rd Season saw us crowned Champions for the 1st time. 

4th Season saw us finish Runners Up. 

5th Season saw us crowned Champions again. 

6th Season saw us retain the title, (on goal difference I think). 

There is also an U23 structure that we're not part of yet. I would rather prioritise on populating the B Team squad than spreading ourselves too think at the moment, so for the time being I'm going to leave us with just 3 squads. 

There is an U23 Cup, but there doesn't seem to be an U19 Cup. 

[Rikulec]

Well done getting promoted!

[Jimbokav1971]

Premeira Liga. May 2027. 

Sporting have been the dominant force in Portugese football since the save started, winning 4 of the 5 titles so far, although Porto have just won this years title.

Benfica have finished Runners Up on each of the last 3 seasons, (4 now after this season), losing by a single point in 2023/24.

Braga are the only side to have broken into the "Big 3", at Porto's expense. 

European performance. 

Porto got to the Euro Cup Final in 2025, but were smashed 4-0 by RB Leipzig. 

Benfica have never got further than the 1st Knockout Round in any European competition since the save started. 

Sporting got to the Euro Conference Semi-Final in 2025/26 before being beaten by Sevilla. 

Sporting have gone 1 better this season in the Euro Cup and will play RB Leipzig in the Final. 

I think that's an appalling record. 

Edited November 4, 2021 by Jimbokav1971

[Jimbokav1971]

15 minutes ago, Rikulec said:

Well done getting promoted!

Thanks. I was almost resigned to having to flog another couple of players and possibly downgrade the coaching staff numbers, but thought I would give it some "focus" and sure enough paying a little more attention to squad selection was all that was needed! Who knew! 

[PequenoGenio]

Good to know that my Sporting Clube de Portugalis going strong!!!

[Jimbokav1971]

Clauses. Jun 2027. 

Some of you will know that I like my clauses, and this will be a big part of funding the clubs development in the coming years. 

 

[Jimbokav1971]

22 minutes ago, PequenoGenio said:

Good to know that my Sporting Clube de Portugalis going strong!!!

They have had the better of it so far, but a Porto have bought 2 of our players, I will be favouring them until we are at a level we can compete. 

Next season though. 

Belenenses v SAD Belenenses Derby!   

I can't wait! 

[HugoLazgo12]

15 minutos atrás, Jimbokav1971 disse:

Clauses. Jun 2027. 

Some of you will know that I like my clauses, and this will be a big part of funding the clubs development in the coming years. 

 

oh my god Sporting have turn the tables on benfica and Benfica became the team got runner-ups from 5 seasons

i cant wait from benfica to win the league in next 11 years

[Jimbokav1971]

European Rankings. Jun 2027. 

[Jimbokav1971]

4 minutes ago, HugoLazgo12 said:

oh my god Sporting have turn the tables on benfica and Benfica became the team got runner-ups from 5 seasons

i cant wait from benfica to win the league in next 11 years

Benfica have had a hard time of it. 

They have won 3x Taça de Portugal and 2x Taça da Liga, but they have won 0 Premeira Liga's and been rubbish in Europe. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Squad valuations after promotion. Jul 2027. 

The top end valuations are a little surprising in that 2 players have increased enormously and most of the others have remained quite stable. 

(24c) Carvalho (POR) was 2st choice on the right flank for the 1st part of last season, but during our successful run-in he usually featured from the bench. He doesn't look amazing now so I can only assume that his PA is higher than some of the other 5.0 PA players. He's wanted by Porto & Juve and I would happily sell him for £6.6M today if I could. 

(24d) Máximo (POR) is a player I really like, but at this stage of the save and with us being £3M overdrawn at the bank, I would sell my dead Mum for £4.9M  He's wanted by Inter and Juve. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Shortlist. Jul 2027. 

(22g) Banao (CIV) 6'3" now has 10 International caps and is valued at £77M, but he's also suffered more injury problems and only played twice in the 2025/26 season. 

There are 2 players Listed for transfer that I'm interested in signing if I can afford it. 

There is 1 player listed for loan that I'm interested in getting in. 

[Sonic Youth]

Congrats on promotion 

And then losing your DC 

Not many defensive options out there for you, though lots of attacking options that look like they can do a job.

Hopefully someone buys 77M rated Banao from Cadiz 

[Jimbokav1971]

1 hour ago, Sonic Youth said:

Congrats on promotion 

And then losing your DC 

Not many defensive options out there for you, though lots of attacking options that look like they can do a job.

Hopefully someone buys 77M rated Banao from Cadiz 

Thanks.  The less said about (23f) Magalhães (POR) 6'1" the better. 

No, we haven't produced nearly as many decent defenders as we have technical attacking players, (22g) Banao (CIV) 6'3" the obvious exception. On the plus side, let's see how some of them progress after a season playing Premeira Liga football. 

(22g) Banao (CIV) 6'3" is only valued at £77M because that's what his min fee release clause is. I thought it was a bug related to the new player valuation system because of every player in Spain requiring a min fee release clause. At least I thought that until I noticed (22c) Caneira (POR) DLF who is at Alaves in Spain and it valued at £400k - £4.1M despite having a min fee release clause of £8.5M. I'm still getting to grips with the new system to be honest and haven't quite worked it out yet. neither of them have a Transfer status or Loan status set so I don't understand what the difference is. 

(22g) Banao (CIV) 6'3" is getting paid £75,000 per month and is classed as an "Important Player" at Cadiz. 
(22c) Caneira (POR) DLF is getting paid £86,5000 per month and is classed as an "Important Player" at Alaves. 

I just can't work out why 1 has a range and the other has a specific figure. 

[Moonshine]

44 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Thanks.  The less said about (23f) Magalhães (POR) 6'1" the better. 

No, we haven't produced nearly as many decent defenders as we have technical attacking players, (22g) Banao (CIV) 6'3" the obvious exception. On the plus side, let's see how some of them progress after a season playing Premeira Liga football. 

(22g) Banao (CIV) 6'3" is only valued at £77M because that's what his min fee release clause is. I thought it was a bug related to the new player valuation system because of every player in Spain requiring a min fee release clause. At least I thought that until I noticed (22c) Caneira (POR) DLF who is at Alaves in Spain and it valued at £400k - £4.1M despite having a min fee release clause of £8.5M. I'm still getting to grips with the new system to be honest and haven't quite worked it out yet. neither of them have a Transfer status or Loan status set so I don't understand what the difference is. 

(22g) Banao (CIV) 6'3" is getting paid £75,000 per month and is classed as an "Important Player" at Cadiz. 
(22c) Caneira (POR) DLF is getting paid £86,5000 per month and is classed as an "Important Player" at Alaves. 

I just can't work out why 1 has a range and the other has a specific figure. 

As far as I can gather, the idea of a valuation is the minimum that would be seriously considered (say, with you for eg,' we need the money') up to the point at which they'd be like 'yeah, that's silly money, of course we'll take it' - or as much as your scouts/agent relationships tell you. I assume, therefore, that Banao and Cadiz are at a point where they wouldn't ever sell him, and thus his value is at the minimum release clause where he'd have to be sold?

[Jimbokav1971]

Big Bid. Jul 2027. 

I mentioned previously that the value of 2 players in particular had jumped significantly after promotion. 

We have just had a bid of £825k (£.3M) from Juve for (24d) Máximo (POR) * which I rejected. 

Now I've had this. 

We're  overdrawn at the bank, so I'm going to counter with a tiered deal paying us only £2.5M up front but with clauses for just about everything and rising to a potential £9M plus a friendly and 25% re-sale value. 

Juve had a more modest figure in mind. 

[Jimbokav1971]

16 minutes ago, Moonshine said:

As far as I can gather, the idea of a valuation is the minimum that would be seriously considered (say, with you for eg,' we need the money') up to the point at which they'd be like 'yeah, that's silly money, of course we'll take it' - or as much as your scouts/agent relationships tell you. I assume, therefore, that Banao and Cadiz are at a point where they wouldn't ever sell him, and thus his value is at the minimum release clause where he'd have to be sold?

That makes complete sense. 

Except that there is a range of £425k - £4.4M for (22c) Caneira (POR) DLF at Alaves who is also an "Important player" and has a min fee release clause of £8.5M. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Juve are not to be deterred. Jul 2027. 

They have come in with this bid for (24d) Máximo (POR) *. 

Let's see what I can get out of them.....

This isn't good enough when we he's contracted for 4 more years and there is almost 6 weeks of the window still to go. 

[Ceching You Out]

Regarding the relative rankings of players (and you probably know most of this already), I’m pretty confident the star view of players from your squad screen uses your Assistant’s JPA/JPP and ratings. I’d bet the view of the of Youth Intake does the same when it comes to star rating and actual star power.

If I’m continuing to bet, I’d say the intake rating by position in FM22 probably compares to the best player that’s at least accomplished there. In FM21 any time my staff provides insight on potential for signings/contracts for a specific player, they tell me “Sign XYZ, he can be much better than ABC” even in cases where we’re talking about a position where my ABC best player is 15, terrible, and will never be good enough for the league we’re in.

[Jimbokav1971]

U23's problem. Aug 2027. 

We have U23 fixtures, but we don't actually have a squad. 

We've only got 3 players at the club who are older than 21 years old. 

I can move players to an U23 squad, but we don't actually have an U23 squad. 

I've moved 2 players to the U23's as a test, and we even get an U23 training report, but we still don't have a squad. Any suggestions? 

[Rikulec]

1 hour ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

I've moved 2 players to the U23's as a test, and we even get an U23 training report, but we still don't have a squad. Any suggestions? 

Maybe go to one of those players' profile and try to access the squad from there through the top bar?

[Jimbokav1971]

Jul & Aug 2027. 

Premieira Liga. This is beyond my wildest dreams. Not just a win, but 3 clean sheets in 4 games.  We're 4 points ahead of the Relegation Playoff and is that wasn't good enough news, SAD Belenenses  are in the relegation zone.  

@HugoLazgo12will love the 6 goals we conceded to Benfica. 

Taça da Liga. Our last 3 League Cup fixtures have all gone to penalties. Who cares! 

Goal-scoring GK's.

Records. 

Transfers. 

(24c) Carvalho (POR) has gone to Juve but I think we have done ok out of it. We got £2.85M up front with a further £2.9M in instalments + add-ons that will take the deal to £8.25M + a friendly. 

Surprisingly I've managed to get (23f) Magalhães (POR) 6'1" back in on loan, and they also included an optional future fee of £250,000 which I plan on taking advantage of later in the season. 

Finances.   

Edited November 5, 2021 by Jimbokav1971

[Jimbokav1971]

5 minutes ago, Rikulec said:

Maybe go to one of those players' profile and try to access the squad from there through the top bar?

I can only remember 1 of the players in the U23 squad, but he is (24o) Ric Duarte (ANG) (POR).

Is this what you mean? 

Bravo that man. 

And now it appears in the bottom left corner. 

The U19's seem to be available for the U23 squad, but the B Team aren't. As the B Team don't have competitive fixtures this seems wrong. 

[Sonic Youth]

That’s a great start to the season 

Good deal from Juv and for Juv in my opinion 

11 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

The less said about (23f) Magalhães (POR) 6'1" the better. 

 

1 hour ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Surprisingly I've managed to get (23f) Magalhães (POR) 6'1" back in on loan, and they also included an optional future fee of £250,000 which I plan on taking advantage of later in the season.

 Didn’t expect that!

Do the other teams in the league have B teams or only U23’s?

Do you know what your stadium will be expanded to yet? Those crowds are great that Belenenses 

[Jimbokav1971]

Sep 2027.

Primeira Liga. The "Big 3" are on a different level, but Moreirense finished 5th last season and are showing strongly again this season. We're only 3 points off a European spot which seems ridiculous and surely can't continue. 

Goal-scoring GK's. 

Finances.   

Edited November 5, 2021 by Jimbokav1971

[Jimbokav1971]

23 minutes ago, Sonic Youth said:

Do the other teams in the league have B teams or only U23’s?

Do you know what your stadium will be expanded to yet? Those crowds are great that Belenenses 

Benfica have a B Team. 
Porto have a B Team.
Sporting have a B Team. 

Braga have a B Team.
VTSC have a B Team.
Estoril have a B Team.
SAD Belenenses  have a B Team.
PTM have a B Team.

BVT have an U19 B Team.
P. Ferreira have an U19 B Team.

Moreirense don't have a B Team.
Famalicão don't have a B Team.
Gil Vicente don't have a B Team. 
Santa Clara don't have a B Team.
TND don't have a B Team. 
Arouca don't have a B Team. 
Mafra don't have a B Team. 

There hasn't been an update on the new stadium yet. 

[Rikulec]

1 hour ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Is this what you mean? 

Precisely. Glad you've found it!

[Jimbokav1971]

Oct 2027. 

Primeiral Liga. 1 win and 3 losses by a single goal, (2 of them away and the other against 1 of the Big 3), is pretty decent as far as I'm concerned. 

I think it's fair to say that we like a tackle. 

I thought we had nicked a point against Sporting. (Yes, that is Christian Eriksen scoring their 1st goal).

Taça de Portugal.

Goal-scoring GK's.

International call-ups. 

I'm not sure I have shown you (24g) A.Semedo (POR) (CPV) before. He's not the typical type of striker I prefer but beggars can't be choosers in a save like this and his potential and his physical ability make him worth investing in. 

Finances.   

[Jimbokav1971]

54 minutes ago, Rikulec said:

Precisely. Glad you've found it!

Thanks for that. 

It's a little awkward in that when I look at my squad list and try to include players in all squads, the U23 players are invisible, but the way around this is to make them available for another squad and they become visible again. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Nov 2027. 

Premeira Liga. I was expecting it to take years before we would beat any of the Big 3, and to beat Porto away in the 1st season is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous when you see our right back in that game. 

Taça de Portugal. We've got Porto at home in the next round. 

Goal-scoring GK's. We're scoring far fewer goals, but that's to be expected at this level considering who we are playing against. 

This is a surprise, (23e) Valente (POR) 6'4" has only scored 1 goal this season, but as this is a yearly ward rather than a seasonal one, his goals in the 2nd half of last season still count. 

Records.

(27n) Hélio Ruivo (POR) played against Porto because our 1st choice right back (22a) Edgar Nunes (POR) * was suspended. If this had been opposition other than 1 of the "Big 3" I would have selected the squad myself, but as it was Porto I just let the Ass Man do it, (we're going to lose anyway so what the hell!)

Finances.   

[Bigshow1]

10 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

U23's problem. Aug 2027. 

We have U23 fixtures, but we don't actually have a squad. 

We've only got 3 players at the club who are older than 21 years old. 

I can move players to an U23 squad, but we don't actually have an U23 squad. 

I've moved 2 players to the U23's as a test, and we even get an U23 training report, but we still don't have a squad. Any suggestions? 

There was a bug in FM21 where it didn’t show sometimes and I had to click the reset button for it to appear.

[Jimbokav1971]

1 hour ago, Bigshow1 said:

There was a bug in FM21 where it didn’t show sometimes and I had to click the reset button for it to appear.

The reset button?

Oh wow. I have never noticed that button in all my years. 

Thanks very much. Worked a treat. 

[Jimbokav1971]

@Mandy42asked a really good question in the GD thread earlier, and I have an example of the game, making decisions that are absolutely ridiculous, but they continue to make them again and again. 

I quite often ask my Ass Man to select the squad, (from the players in the senior squad), and then I either go with it as it is or make some changes depending on what team he has picked, who we're playing and what our other fixtures are like. 

He keeps picking this bloke at centre-half. Now I quite like him as a player, but as a MC rather than a DC. I like him as a DLP and I even don't mind playing him as a BBM. I would never start him as a centre-half though. I would rather play a centre-half from one of the other squads at centre-half, (although from the bench is different). No matter how many times I saw him out and put someone else in, he still wants to pick this bloke at centre-half. I'm guessing that this is because he is a Natural in the DC position, but only Accomplished in the MC slot. I guess my main point here is that just as we don't trust the CA star ratings never mind the PA star ratings, don't be too trusting of the advice you get from your staff. 

They keep telling me that my GK is rubbish at penalties and free-kicks and he should be taken off, but he's currently scored 21 of 24 pens (+3/3 in shoot-outs).

At what point do they stop looking at his penalty taking attribute of 1 and start looking at his penalty success rate of 87.5%, (89% if you include penalty shoot-outs)?  The answer is that they don't. They don't look at how successful he is at all. So with that in mind, (and this spreads to other areas of the game), by all means take their advice and use it, but use it as part of your decision-making process rather than the decision-making process itself. 

There is often discussion about star ratings, (both CA and PA), and I will freely admit that I rank players by CA/PA and this might determine what squad they start in at the beginning of a save/season, but as I look at players I make up my own mind and make my decisions using this info rather than this info making my decision. 

I do exactly the same thing with regards to PA when it comes to Youth Intakes. I love a 5.0 PA player. Of course I do. Don't we all? But at the same time I'm really aware that a 5.0 player might not be anywhere near as good as the 3.5 PA player who has strength in just the right areas I want for a particular role. 

Take all this info, but don't become too reliant on it. It's still down to you at the end of the day. 

Edited November 6, 2021 by Jimbokav1971

[Jimbokav1971]

Dec 2027. 

Premeira Liga. This looks like a poor month, but in actual fact the performances were decent. Gil Vicente was an even game and the deadlock was broken by a penalty. SAN Belenenses  was the poorest performance of the lot but can be explained by us receiving a red card after 34 mins with the score still 0-0. Estoril was brilliant, we were hugely unlucky not to win the Santa Clara game never mind about get nothing from it, and the VTSC game we dominated but just couldn't finish. I'm really happy with the performances if not the results. 

SAD Derby . The 1st Big Derby of the save was such a let-down. I was so up for it, (and obviously so was (25d) Marty (POR) (FRA) who received a straight red), but despite holding our own after the dismissal, they were able to create the space to tale their chances. It was a pretty horrific introduction to the SAD Derby . Their time will come though. 

Taça de Portugal. When the Portugese lads, @HugoLazgo12and @PequenoGenio were commenting in the thread a couple of days ago, I almost told them that I thought Porto looked to have the strongest long-term future because their transfer strategy seemed to be younger and more forward-thinking than the other two. We've now beaten Porto twice this season, (both 2-1) whole losing really narrowly to Sporting, (90th min winning penalty), and getting absolutely smashed by Benfica. I think that gives us a decent yardstick as to the state of things between the "Big 3". 

Goal-scoring GK's. 

Finances.   

[Mandy42]

4 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

@Mandy42asked a really good question in the GD thread earlier, and I have an example of the game, making decisions that are absolutely ridiculous, but they continue to make them again and again. 

I quite often ask my Ass Man to select the squad, (from the players in the senior squad), and then I either go with it as it is or make some changes depending on what team he has picked, who we're playing and what our other fixtures are like. 

He keeps picking this bloke at centre-half. Now I quite like him as a player, but as a MC rather than a DC. I like him as a DLP and I even don't mind playing him as a BBM. I would never start him as a centre-half though. I would rather play a centre-half from one of the other squads at centre-half, (although from the bench is different). No matter how many times I saw him out and put someone else in, he still wants to pick this bloke at centre-half. I'm guessing that this is because he is a Natural in the DC position, but only Accomplished in the MC slot. I guess my main point here is that just as we don't trust the CA star ratings never mind the PA star ratings, don't be too trusting of the advice you get from your staff. 

They keep telling me that my GK is rubbish at penalties and free-kicks and he should be taken off, but he's currently scored 21 of 24 pens (+3/3 in shoot-outs).

At what point do they stop looking at his penalty taking attribute of 1 and start looking at his penalty success rate of 87.5%, (89% if you include penalty shoot-outs)?  The answer is that they don't. They don't look at how successful he is at all. So with that in mind, (and this spreads to other areas of the game), by all means take their advice and use it, but use it as part of your decision-making process rather than the decision-making process itself. 

There is often discussion about star ratings, (both CA and PA), and I will freely admit that I rank players by CA/PA and this might determine what squad they start in at the beginning of a save/season, but as I look at players I make up my own mind and make my decisions using this info rather than this info making my decision. 

I do exactly the same thing with regards to PA when it comes to Youth Intakes. I love a 5.0 PA player. Of course I do. Don't we all? But at the same time I'm really aware that a 5.0 player might not be anywhere near as good as the 3.5 PA player who has strength in just the right areas I want for a particular role. 

Take all this info, but don't become too reliant on it. It's still down to you at the end of the day. 

I guess my follow up question would be. Why does someone with a penalty taking attribute of 1 (the lowest you can get) have a success rate of 87%? 

[Jimbokav1971]

Just now, Mandy42 said:

I guess my follow up question would be. Why does someone with a penalty taking attribute of 1 (the lowest you can get) have a success rate of 87%? 

Because in my opinion the penalty taking attribute, (and to a lesser degree the free-kick attribute), is completely and utterly worthless. It has absolutely no impact on anything, ever.