[Europe] Data Issues

[Simon Tipple]

To get the winners of:
- European Champions Cup
- EURO Cup
to appear in game, you will likely have to get past the date that the two finals were played on in real life - 21st & 23rd August 2020 .

The correct teams should be in the European Super Cup from the start of new save game.

 

Please post any data issues related to any non-represented country in Europe here.

As much of the data is subjective we’d ask that you respect everyone’s opinion and accept that the final decision is that of our club researchers and our heads of research.          

We also request you please adhere to the following three point plan when posting in the data topics:

·        State what you think is specifically wrong with a particular piece of data.              

·        State what you think the data should be.                            

·        State reasons/proof for your suggested corrections/improvements.                         

Please note that any non-data issues for Europe should be posted in the appropriate thread within the League Specific Issues forum. This would include issues such as league scheduling, league table sorting rules and match rules.

[tv_capper]

Georgia

Roland Khvadagiani (93140773) is missing the start date for his spell as Eskilstuna physio - This new article gives it as 08/05/2018

It also states that he's been involved with the Georgia national team for the last 29 Years so should almost certainly be set as the national team's physio

https://www.afc-eskilstuna.se/2018/05/08/har-ar-afcs-nye-naprapat-massor/

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16 hours ago, tv_capper said:

Georgia

Roland Khvadagiani (93140773) is missing the start date for his spell as Eskilstuna physio - This new article gives it as 08/05/2018

It also states that he's been involved with the Georgia national team for the last 29 Years so should almost certainly be set as the national team's physio

https://www.afc-eskilstuna.se/2018/05/08/har-ar-afcs-nye-naprapat-massor/

Eskilstuna data added. As for the NT and club career before - it sounds interesting, but might be not precise. If it was 29 years before from 2018, it would mean 1989, when no Georgian national team existed (first unofficial matches in 1990, official ones from 1992). Unfortunately, Georgian teams (event national team) rarely care about informations about physios and doctors.

I have found an interview with him, when he claims, that: between 1990 and 1995 he had worked with Georgia U-16, U-18 and U-19, but gives no exact dates. Might be parallelly all of them, might be separately. From 1995 it looks, it was A team. 

On the other hand he has worked parallelly in the clubs, and I have at least 9 of them named. Unfortunately - with no dates, and the chances to track it are very poor at the moment.

So I'll add him U-19 1990-95, and NT 1995-2018. More maybe in the future.

Thanks!

[Bigpole]

Any chance for Azerbaijan/Armenian clubs facilities, youth coaching and recruitment values updated for winter patch? Probably hard to set all clubs but first two divisions could be done 

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2 minutes ago, Bigpole said:

Any chance for Azerbaijan/Armenian clubs facilities, youth coaching and recruitment values updated for winter patch? Probably hard to set all clubs but first two divisions could be done 

I'd also like to have it updated (BTW first two divisions means - almost - all clubs). But to update it at a rational basis, a solid AR living in these countries would be required, in other case it will be a very rough guesstimate only. At the moment such ARs are unavailable, but we still work on finding them. Club facilities seem to be the easiest of this pack, and we'll work on it for sure. Youth coaching and recruitment are harder to get.

[Bashar]

HR Armenia

Urartu Yerevan stadium is missing. It is Banants stadium in DB.

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13 minutes ago, Bashar said:

HR Armenia

Urartu Yerevan stadium is missing. It is Banants stadium in DB.

That's the same stadium, as Banants has changed its name to Urartu. But you're right, the name should be changed too, thanks for spotting that. It's done now.

[vanMili]

Hello,

Just wanted to state that there are a couple of young regular players missing from Omonoia Nicosia FC. The game prides it's self and it's supposed to be the most accurate football database in the world and it's a shame missing young players that are considered future talents. The links and info for the players are below:

https://www.transfermarkt.com/loizos-loizou/profil/spieler/615033

Loizos Loizou is considered to be the best talent that came through Youth Cypriot ranks the last 20 years. He made his debut 2 years ago when he was 15, last year he played a couple of matches scoring a goal and assisting another one. This season he started being considered a regular and is the youngest player ever that has played for the national team.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/andronikos-kakoullis/profil/spieler/511883

Andronikos Kakoullis is a pacey striker that since last season has almost participated in every game of the Club. He is a regular call up in the national team as well. 

Kind Regards

 

[grayhairgaming]

ADO Den Haag is showing as paying 1.2M Euros per month in rent for Cars Jeans Stadion. My understanding is the club built the new stadium in 2007. Maybe there is something not reported in the media about the stadium where they don't actually own it in real life, but nothing I can find states that. Reporting to have it looked at, just not sure if it is a bug or not. 

[Kanwulf]

On 07/12/2020 at 18:51, grayhairgaming said:

ADO Den Haag is showing as paying 1.2M Euros per month in rent for Cars Jeans Stadion. My understanding is the club built the new stadium in 2007. Maybe there is something not reported in the media about the stadium where they don't actually own it in real life, but nothing I can find states that. Reporting to have it looked at, just not sure if it is a bug or not. 

This belongs in the Netherlands thread

[grade]

I saw that this also remains unchanged, despite requesting last year this change.

Kyrgyzstan is now officially called Kyrgyz Republic.

The official FIFA ranking and on AFC official website the name it is being use is Kyrgyz Republic.

A bit of investigation on "world wide web", the name was changed in 1993.

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4 minutes ago, grade said:

I saw that this also remains unchanged, despite requesting last year this change.

Kyrgyzstan is now officially called Kyrgyz Republic.

The official FIFA ranking and on AFC official website the name it is being use is Kyrgyz Republic.

A bit of investigation on "world wide web", the name was changed in 1993.

The "Kyrgyz Republic" is a long official name, "Kyrgyzstan" is a short one. I see no reason of changing it for long one, as f.e. we use North Korea instead of Democratic People's Republic of Korea or Russia instead of Russian Federation. Even the constitution of Kyrgyzstan uses paralelly both forms, not mentioning official government websites.

Also, the United Nations mentions this country among its members with a short name.

Therefore the country's name in the game won't be changed, unless we start to use official long names for all countries, EOT.

[grade]

I understand what you are saying, but I don't agree with your point of view.

My reason is quite simple. If the official site of FIFA and the AFC uses the Kyrgyz Republic name, shouldn't be the name to be use on a computer simulation football game, who prides itself of being the most realistic database in all of football games. At least should follow the names that the higher identities of football uses?

I don't defend the long names, I say use the names that officially the Higher identities uses and to be fair Kyrgyz Republic isn't that big a name, then Kyrgyzstan. There are nation with far longer names, where uses the "short" name, like the United Arab Emirates. I mean that has far more characters then Kyrgyz Republic or DPR Korea or Korea Republic.

And as you touch the subject of North Korea, yes, it is far shorter then the official name. That is why on FIFA and AFC sites, use the short name Korea DPR, instead of its long name. If that is their official name. I think that North Korea in FM should change to DPR Korea. The same should happen for South Korea, should be changed to Korea Republic.

It is the countries official name.

[littledragon84]

Onni Valakari is from Finland and is a Finnish international, he made his debut in November against France and scored. He's never represented Scotland at national level. In my save he is a Scottish under 21 players. He currently plays in Cyprus for Pafos. 

[Bashar]

HR Azerbaijan

Neftchi Baku home and away shirt are same in DB. Away shirt should be all white.

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54 minutes ago, Bashar said:

HR Azerbaijan

Neftchi Baku home and away shirt are same in DB. Away shirt should be all white.

Thanks for that, but the thing is something more complicated. In theory, all-white kit might be, indeed, an away one. But the problem is, that it has been never used in that season in any official match (I've seen photos from all, or almost all of them). The only real difference between home and away kits used by Neftçi in reality in in shorts (which are either black or white). This has been portrayed in the DB. The all-white could and will be set at the moment only as the 3rd set, to prevent it from being regularly used in the game (as I prefer reality to officiality). If the situation changes, and Neftçi starts using the white kit regularly enough, it will be switched in the DB too. Unfortunately it seems at the moment there is no other way to set the frequence of each set being used.

However, the all-white kit seems to be more regularly used by Neftçi-2 team in Azeri D2 (these photos were not available at the DB closing date), so it will be set as an away kit set there.

[stavros.krekos]

Hi 

I download every year this game to be able to see player attributes from the editor, 

I am waiting to see the scouting of OMONOIA FC youngsters but they are all missing and these players are key players for the first team since last season 

Players like Antronikos Kakoulis, Loizos Loizou, Charalambos Charalambous, Panayiotou are all missing and to be honest the scouting is not very accurate since most of the stats are 0 (random)

I just hope some day you will include Cypriot championship to the game to be able to play as well 

 

Thanks and I hope my message helped 

[stavros.krekos]

On 02/12/2020 at 13:27, vanMili said:

Hello,

Just wanted to state that there are a couple of young regular players missing from Omonoia Nicosia FC. The game prides it's self and it's supposed to be the most accurate football database in the world and it's a shame missing young players that are considered future talents. The links and info for the players are below:

https://www.transfermarkt.com/loizos-loizou/profil/spieler/615033

Loizos Loizou is considered to be the best talent that came through Youth Cypriot ranks the last 20 years. He made his debut 2 years ago when he was 15, last year he played a couple of matches scoring a goal and assisting another one. This season he started being considered a regular and is the youngest player ever that has played for the national team.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/andronikos-kakoullis/profil/spieler/511883

Andronikos Kakoullis is a pacey striker that since last season has almost participated in every game of the Club. He is a regular call up in the national team as well. 

Kind Regards

 

Exactly thats what I am waiting since last year

[basqueliverpool]

what on earth is going on with the u21 euros that start in march 2021? squads just keepers, centre backs and strikers. for everyone.  England named 8 players, spain and germany 16. none of them played u21 football before? 

Edited December 30, 2020 by basqueliverpool

[Svartowiz]

There's a lack of female names for newgen staff. Almost everyone is named Emilie or Kenza.

[Delvi]

Ferenc Puskas ID2000066854

Ferenc Puskas ID2000067542

ID2000067385, ID2000067385 and ID2000067385 are nameless

[myfunnygame]

From wiki:

At San Marino Stadium, it is extremely rare to see an audience close to the facility's maximum capacity. Attendance depends on how many fans of the opposing team will come to San Marino for their national team match. The highest number of spectators was recorded in the match against Germany in 2006, when 5019 spectators sat in the stands, and in the match against England in 2013 - 4952 people. The majority of viewers are fans of visiting teams. In 2007, during a match against Ireland, out of 3,294 fans at the stadium, around 2,500 of them were Irish fans. During meetings with less attractive rivals in terms of sports, the attendance usually varies between 700 - 1500 fans. The audience at friendly matches usually does not exceed 500 people.

 

In my save i play first match versus Cyprus and i beat record (5300 fans) (in this are 800 visitors supporters). Full stadium is 5500.
Bug is from FM2020 but i think it is in next version too, because nobody play this country.

Can someone check it?

 

Edited July 5, 2021 by myfunnygame

[tensleepslav]

William Edoardo Garcia of Folgore in the Campionato Sammarinese di Calcio is missing from the DB. He came on as a substitute in the Champions League preliminary round semi-final against Prishtina and in the Europa Conference League second qualifying round against Hibernians.

Basic details:

• DOB: 13 May 2002
• Nation: Italy
• Position: AMR (according to Transfermarkt)

Edited July 20, 2021 by tensleepslav

[Ente35]

New teams which should be added in FM22

Bosnia-Herzegovina	FK Budućnost Pilica	Prva Nogometna Liga Republike Srpske	https://www.facebook.com/Fk-Buducnost-Pilica-966748380022211/
Bosnia-Herzegovina	HNK Tomislav Tomislavgrad	Prva Nogometna Liga Federacije Bosne i Hercegovine	https://www.facebook.com/HNKTomislav1/ | http://www.hnktomislav.com/
Cyprus	Omonia 29is Maiou	D?fteri Katigor?a	https://www.facebook.com/pacomonia1948/ | https://pacomonia.com/
Kazahkstan	FK Jas Qyran	Kazakhstan Second League Northeast	https://www.jasqyran.com/
Moldova	FC Sporting Trestieni	Divizia ''A''	https://www.facebook.com/Sporting-Iurceni-103550548380742

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3 hours ago, Ente35 said:

New teams which should be added in FM22

Bosnia-Herzegovina	FK Budućnost Pilica	Prva Nogometna Liga Republike Srpske	https://www.facebook.com/Fk-Buducnost-Pilica-966748380022211/
Bosnia-Herzegovina	HNK Tomislav Tomislavgrad	Prva Nogometna Liga Federacije Bosne i Hercegovine	https://www.facebook.com/HNKTomislav1/ | http://www.hnktomislav.com/
Cyprus	Omonia 29is Maiou	D?fteri Katigor?a	https://www.facebook.com/pacomonia1948/ | https://pacomonia.com/
Kazahkstan	FK Jas Qyran	Kazakhstan Second League Northeast	https://www.jasqyran.com/
Moldova	FC Sporting Trestieni	Divizia ''A''	https://www.facebook.com/Sporting-Iurceni-103550548380742

Jas Qyran already have been in the DB, FM ID 2000124486.