stian Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 31 minutes ago, knap said: @stian Won PL wit Spurs, not sure if tactic is stable @knapok, which one? can you share the link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jborges Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 12 horas atrás, ricrpor disse: hi everyone i am testing holy 433 , warrior 442 and electric 4123 I find this 23.0 Beta ME the worse of all times. so illogical and with so many rubbish moments . scoring ratio vs shots by the AI are huge and Human very little, suddenly AI scores 2 or 3 goals , to many late goals, too Many yellow and red cards, shots vs shots on target ratio are ridiculous to hit the net 5 times my teams shots 20 times. another issue is playing against a much weaker team and sometimes they completely dominate the game. i find difficult to get a positive feedback because I get the sense that this ME doesn't work correctly, I don't know If anyone else has similar opinion thanks @knap for all your awesome work who helps everyone so much and all other players who keep giving input about the game I second this. I stopped playing, will start again on the 8th. Just look at what tct´s Knap had to try... some formations are unreal in football and illogical. Great job Knap, thanks man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2022 Author Share Posted November 5, 2022 @duque 3atb do not work that well but I will try a 343 IF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2022 Author Share Posted November 5, 2022 @ViperBlade It is 451 and now P83 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
longruoi1 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Hi knap, many have tried Attacking with success. Is it possible that you could test one with Attacking instead of Positive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2022 Author Share Posted November 5, 2022 @longruoi1 There are attacking and very attacking tactics. Attacking is supposed to be working well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassy Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Done pretty well here with Spurs! Made some decent signings, but not many first 11 improvements. One thing I did notice @knap is Son and Kulusevski didn't play very well as wingers. I wonder if it would work better with IFs? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) I had a very successful season with Barcelona with the attached tactic. All the games are played by me. No instant result or holiday mode. If it can be tested from any of you let me know please your results. FM23 Beta Paris Knap 4231.fmf Edited November 5, 2022 by Par1s 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBucko Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 @knap For the HOLY GHOST FIRE 451 MUP103 W P103 ALL CUPS P311 Is it best for the wingers to be Left wing left footed and RIght wing right footed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
longruoi1 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Glassy said: Done pretty well here with Spurs! Made some decent signings, but not many first 11 improvements. One thing I did notice @knap is Son and Kulusevski didn't play very well as wingers. I wonder if it would work better with IFs? From my own experience, if they have IF prefer moves such as Cut Inside, Get in the area, they will play better on the otherside, while still set as winger. Even more true if they are natural on that side, like the case of Son on left wing. If you change to IF it will affect the whole team, not worth it. Also I believe you will get better results if you have a quicker CM than Neves. Edited November 5, 2022 by longruoi1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2022 Author Share Posted November 5, 2022 @LBucko Yep - inverted opposite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassy Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 minute ago, longruoi1 said: From my own experience, if they have IF prefer moves such as Cut Inside, Get in the area, they will play better on the otherside, while still set as winger. Even more true if they are natural on that side, such as in the case of Son on left wing. If you change to IF it will affect the whole team, not worth it. Also I believe you will get improved results if your CMs are better at attacking than Neves and Bissouma Nice one, I'll try and switch Kulusevski and Son over to the opposite wings. No complaints with Bissouma and Neves though. Bissouma got 19 goals and Neves got 21 assists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor06061990 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 best tactics !!! ME22.4HOLYGHOSTFIREKnap41212NDP107ALLCPS (1).fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loamei Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Razor06061990 said: best tactics !!! ME22.4HOLYGHOSTFIREKnap41212NDP107ALLCPS (1).fmf 46.75 kB · 31 downloads Narrow diamond was my favourite formation in FM22. Which team you using in FM23? You got any screenshots by chance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripoligate4 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Razor06061990 said: best tactics !!! ME22.4HOLYGHOSTFIREKnap41212NDP107ALLCPS (1).fmf 46.75 kB · 74 downloads u use it at 23? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2022 Author Share Posted November 5, 2022 Highest so far 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecrewd Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) Which tactic is that knap? Edited November 5, 2022 by bluecrewd didn't link reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecrewd Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 28 minutes ago, knap said: Highest so far What tactic is that knap? Sorry done it twice, I don't usually post on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2022 Author Share Posted November 5, 2022 @bluecrewd It is a version of HGF 451 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISportsOneHD Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Any narrow tactics working well ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrmantovani Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Does 451W P110 work for underdogs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active Triple X Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 @knap Your best tactic is the HOLY GHOST FRE 451 P101 EC. or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 @hrmantovani Who do you consider is an underdog? and what would be a good result Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 @Active Triple X It was in FM 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active Triple X Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, knap said: @Active Triple X It was in FM 22 @knapFM 23 Your best tactic is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 @Active Triple X would say a 451. Top pts is P110. I would check your best players at AMR/L are suited to either IW or IF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrmantovani Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 horas atrás, knap disse: @hrmantovani Who do you consider is an underdog? and what would be a good result Getting a team from being predicted 14/15th to finishing 6/7th give or take Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 @Active Triple X Last years top tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 35 minutes ago, knap said: @Active Triple X Last years top tactic @knap Which one is this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 @stian M P103 from last year ID 224003 for FM23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 @hrmantovani Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 @hrmantovani Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 BUG TRACKER Ridiculous amount of yellow cards known issue 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active Triple X Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 4 hours ago, knap said: @Active Triple X would say a 451. Top pts is P110. I would check your best players at AMR/L are suited to either IW or IF @knap You mean this tactic right? best now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrmantovani Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 55 minutos atrás, knap disse: @hrmantovani That's exactly what I was looking for. Thank you sir Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 @Active Triple X That is highest with Lpool - Wolves P77 is last years 451 MU p103 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 FM 23 TACTICS GOOGLE DOCS Knap FM2023 - Google Sheets KEY ATTRIBTES GK Handling Reflexes Agility Decisions DRL Acceleration Pace Decisions Stamina DC Decisions Positioning Marking Acceleration Pace Strength Jumping WBRL Acceleration Pace Decisions Stamina DM Acceleration Pace Decisions MRL Acceleration Pace Agility MC Acceleration Pace Vision Passing AMRL Acceleration Pace Dribbling AMC Acceleration Pace Vision ST Acceleration Pace Finishing Guide to test results PSG Elite Man City / Lpool top Base test top CA 160 top 5 Spurs / Arsenal CA 140 Top 10 CA 120 top 15 Blackpool relegation Attribute_Weights.pdf.pdf35.17 kB · 59 downloads Cadoni recommended shouts or use AM for Shouts FM22 Shouts - Encourage (0-0; 20 min mark) - Calm Down (win 1-0 after you scoring) - Demand More (draw) - Praise (win by 2 goals) - Berate (loss by 2 goals AWAY GAMES SUS With regard to Away games it depends upon your own risk factor. I am gung ho and prefer to attack and perhaps win 1 game in 3. If isk adverse then use a defensive tactic and perhaps draw all 3 games. As a defensive formation I would use 4141 as it has a DM and protects wings, and KINGSTONIAN 4141 would be my choice. I use 3 DLs std higher much higher. If AI are going for balls over top then std but if AI attacking you can leave at higher or much higher. The LOE can be adjusted with or without DL adjustments. The simple answer is just drop LOE.. I use Cautious positive and attacking mentalities. For a SUS these are ideas to use. Use 4141 formation Remove pass into space Stop WB runs by going to defend or no nonsense FB Use Defend on DM (or HB) or most defensive MC Change mentality Positive/cautious Add Time wasting Change from counter press and counter and full SUS would be to regroup and hold shape I tend to judge what to use by how the game is progressing as you may just to want to control game rather than a full SU TRAINING SCHEDUES EBTS v22.1 (1).fmf19.43 kB · 41 downloads CADONI TRAINING GG_-_0_Matches.fmf11.26 kB · 228 downloads GG_-_1_Match.fmf11.26 kB · 216 downloads GG_-_2_Matches.fmf11.26 kB · 214 downloads 581565429_GGPreSeason-Match.fmf11.27 kB · 42 downloads GG_PreSeason_No_Match.fmf11.23 kB · 194 downloads 330100806_GGPreSeason-FitnessWeek.fmf11.3 kB · 44 downloads 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamieac Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 I'm 10 Points clear with a game in hand in the lower leagues and on a 12 game winning streak. Ready for the full release to ruin my life tomorrow I guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 @Jamieac Wait until a losing run. Had a really bad run after a previous update Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 ME 23.0 BETA HGF 451 BRENT P83 MC P103 EC FA ME23.0HGFKnap451PBRENTP83MCP103ECFA.fmf 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossyboss Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 28/10/2022 at 14:33, knap said: @ViperBlade No tactic changes. I only really tweak a tactic in game to protect a lead. Hi Knap What do you do to protect the lead? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 @Bossyboss Mentalities have been reworked this year, as well as low bloc so may need a little experimentation. The simplest is a control tactic - Regroup hold Shape and a lower mentality or risk. I have been using very defensive so lowest risk. For a SUS - Stop FB Runs add time wasting use a 4141 or 451 formation add a defend duty in midfield, drop LOE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripoligate4 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Hello knap, may u explain us the old ''offside trap '' where is here? how is explained in the new FM23? coz are several options but not a clear view about how it set uped , the issue about wide / narrow def and offside trap ect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questlove Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) Bit of a strange one for you Knap, what tactic of yours would you suggest produces the highest average ratings for your players rather than overall team success? I'm winning loads of games pretty much regardless of what I use but the player ratings sometimes barely even crack 6.8 and even in your screenshots having a player of De Bruyne's quality only get a 7.15 over the season is seriously immersion breaking for me. Is this just something to put up with as a consequence of the player rating rework from a few FMs back? I don't mind finishing even 3-4 places below where I usually would as long as my players are actually getting good ratings, having endless 1-0s and 2-0s with crap ratings is a real bummer for me. Last year just playing with a lower tempo had a massive effect on ratings for me with some of them going up by 0.3-0.4 over the course of the season despite the team not doing as well i.e finishing 3rd rather than 1st with Atalanta, but it hasn't had any effect this year as far as I can tell. Edited November 7, 2022 by Questlove Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 @tripoligate4 They have just moved to right side Offside trap is step up and wide width is stop crosses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 @Questlove I seldom look as results are more important. If lower tempo gives better results then ratings should go up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 With the above tactic the AMR/L roles can be changed to suit players, as Salah is better as a IFA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel.camponovo Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 03/11/2022 at 18:31, knap said: ME 23.0 BETA WARRIOR 442 IW P102 EC FA ME23.0WARRIRKnap442IWP102ECA.fmf 45.21 kB · 385 downloads I don't typically go for 442s but I'm having great success with this so far, excited to test it out when the full game drops in my long-term save 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 @daniel.camponovo 442s were good in last years Beta!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel.camponovo Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, knap said: @daniel.camponovo 442s were good in last years Beta!!! I think I personally just don't like them, feels like outdated football lol Did 442s become less good as the ME updated last year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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