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[knap]

@colfes9

I've used the 4231s with Spurs. Yu can always change to a more conventional 4231 if a problem.

[colfes9]

3 minutes ago, knap said:

@colfes9

I've used the 4231s with Spurs. Yu can always change to a more conventional 4231 if a problem.

Most of my starting eleven have a CA of 165+ so that should be good enough for any of those tactics right?

[SavetroN]

@knap Hey mate I'm looking for a suitable tactic for Atalanta. Do you have any suggestions?

[knap]

MR L Test - TEQUILA SUNRISE 41311 P341 (180-161)

!!!FM20.3.0Tequilasunrise442.knaplass41311p104FACCP341(180-161).fmf

 

[GiallorossoForever]

How can i find out my team ca ?

[Earnie is God!]

17 minutes ago, GiallorossoForever said:

How can i find out my team ca ?

Numerous ways. Editor, Genie Scout, FMRTE, some skins show the hidden attributes

[middleweight165]

On 24/10/2019 at 14:05, knap said:

The top tactics are considered to be

P112 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top Sub and under) (recommended for LL)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf 45.32 kB · 116 downloadsPI

PILGRIMAGE 4141 P106 ALLCUPS NO LOSS (Newcastle PL and FA Cup Win)

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapCD4141P106ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf45.19 kB · 215 downloads

Wolves Tactic 4132 (PL Win) (Recommended for LL )

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBIWSPKnapWOLVESP95KINGP112.fmf45.34 kB · 122 downloads

Wolves Tactic Goodbye 4132 (PL Win)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5GOODBYE4132PFDWSPKnapP108ALLCUPSNOLOSSWOLVESPL.fmf45.41 kB · 63 downloads

 

 

P109 ALL CUPS SP (Top , Sub and Under)

 

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFPWMSPKnapP109ALLCUPS.fmf 45.14 kB · 85 downloads 

 

P112

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFA.fmf 44.96 kB · 72 downloads

Updated for 19.3.5

P110

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF442PFPWMKnapP110ECCC.fmf 44.96 kB · 134 downloads

 

P108 no loss 4411 (top)

!!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF4411KnapP108ALLCUPSnoloss.fmf 45.25 kB · 46 downloads

P106 ALL CUPS 442 (top and Sub)

!!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF442KnapP106ALLCUPS.fmf 45.23 kB · 41 downloads

P103 ECCC 442 (Good for underdogs_

!!!!!19.3.4BEOWULF442WAFKnapP103ECCC.fmf 44.96 kB · 43 downloads

Updated for 19.3.5

(P103) P106 ALL CUPS KINGSTONIAN P109 (Recommended for LL)

 

PILGRIMAGE 4141 AWAY Tactic (underdog tactic)

!!!!FM19.3.4PILGRIMAGE4141KnapP107EC.fmf44.1 kB · 113 downloads

 

 

WULF 4141

!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF(P103)SPKnap4141P106ECCC.fmf45.24 kB · 92 downloads

 

PILGRIMAGE 4141 (Good for underdogs)

The 4141 is P102EC but there are updated versions of this the latest being P109

Other tactics

4132

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFWMIWBSPKnapTHP105FACCSPP108.fmf45.31 kB · 144 downloads

41221 Oxford

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDP107ECFA.fmf45.25 kB · 98 downloads

4411

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnap4411P106ECFA.fmf45.21 kB · 78 downloads

41311

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnap41311P106ALLCUPS.fmf45.2 kB · 80 downloads

 

451

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB451P104.fmf45.19 kB · 93 downloads

 

442 DM SICILIAN P106 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top, Sub and Under)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5SICILIAN442PFDMIWBS

 

ADDITIONAL TACTICS

4141 Solounamigo  AWAYv4 (Top, Sub and Under) Recommended for LL

AWAYv4_!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104.fmf45.28 kB · 129 downloads

 

4132 AP Matiz (Top Sub)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSmatizAPTHP102.fmf45.36 kB · 144 downloads

442 Matiz (Top Sub and Under) Recommended for LL

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULFKnapMatizWPF442P104ALLCUPS.fmf44.98 kB · 200 downloads

4231 DM VOL

4231 DM VOL

!FM19.3.5BEOWULF4231DMVOLKnapP102ALLCUPS.fmf44.9 kB · 66 downloads

 

 

4141 IWB

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB4141P107.fmf45.21 kB · 36 downloads

 

SALAH TACTIC

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP104ALLCUPSSALAH.fmf45.32 kB · 125 downloads

 

HOLIDAY SEASON TACTICS

10 SEASON TACTIC (Wolves PL Win)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5SICILIAN442PFDMIWBSPKnapP109ALLCUPSNOLOSS10SEASONS.fmf45.28 kB · 80 downloads

MU 7 SEASON TACTIC  INVERTED WINGER (TOP and UNDER) (Recommended for LL)

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFIWKnapP110ECCCMU7SEASONS.fmf44.94 kB · 44 downloads

 

TH 12 SEASON TACTIC P108

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapTHP108.fmf45.29 kB · 78 downloads

424 IF P108 (Recommended for LL)

!!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.5BEOWULF424IFKnapP108ECCCKINGP101.fmf44.75 kB · 91 downloads

 

HOLIDAY SEASON TACTICS

 

!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF9P103)Kn

Hi,

I'm still playing FM19 and looking for a tactics. I'm sure this is a simple question but I can't find the answer. The above is the recommended list of tactics for FM19. What are the 'P' numbers ? P109, P112, etc. How do I choose between them? Thanks!

[Earnie is God!]

6 minutes ago, middleweight165 said:

Hi,

I'm still playing FM19 and looking for a tactics. I'm sure this is a simple question but I can't find the answer. The above is the recommended list of tactics for FM19. What are the 'P' numbers ? P109, P112, etc. How do I choose between them? Thanks!

Points earned in a season.

[middleweight165]

16 minutes ago, Earnie is God! said:

Points earned in a season.

Great! Thanks mate. So !!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf 45.32 kB · 116 downloadsPI is the best tactic? Is this Beowulf? Is this the thread for this particular tactic https://community.sigames.com/topic/456012-fm-19-beowulf-4231-4411-and-4141-knap/? 

Actually looking at it maybe the 4-1-4-1 is a better tactic if you are an underdog

 

Edited August 2, 2020 by middleweight165
Missing info

[knap]

@middleweight165

There is n unofficial test table, but on my other laptop

4132 442 4141 are the best formations to use.

[middleweight165]

1 hour ago, knap said:

@middleweight165

There is n unofficial test table, but on my other laptop

4132 442 4141 are the best formations to use.

Hi Knap. Thanks for the reply and for all your work. Your 4-1-3-2 tactic achieved the most points (112) so is that not your best tactic if types of players wasn't an issue? My thought process is that I would use the 4-1-3-2 when I am the underdog and a 4-4-2 when i am the favorite or if i am losing. Is that something you would recommend?

[Beekimov]

Still searching for a good cornertactic / trow-in tactic for the WarPigs tactic...

Anybody??

[knap]

@middleweight165

Sounds like a plan and can use 4141 as a defensive option.

[knap]

@Beekimov

Which Warpigs and I can see if a better option

[Beekimov]

2 hours ago, knap said:

@Beekimov

Which Warpigs and I can see if a better option

@knap I will check it when i'm home again   

[Scruffer23]

@knap I’ve started a rangers save just wondering if you have any thoughts on a tactic that will work and get Morelos scoring please 

[knap]

FM 20.4.1

RUN LIKE HELL 4231 SKEW P104 EC FA MR L Test P354 (191-163)

M20.4.1RUNLIKEHELLKnap4231SKEWIFWP104ECP354(191-163).fmf

 

 

[kitchin75]

On 01/08/2020 at 23:20, knap said:

MR L Test - TEQUILA SUNRISE 41311 P341 (180-161)

!!!FM20.3.0Tequilasunrise442.knaplass41311p104FACCP341(180-161).fmf 45.08 kB · 37 downloads

 

would this work for a underdog team first season in the prem?

[Gurmeet]

Hi Knap I am overwhelmed with the number of tactics. I am currently using Portsmouth and have managed to get promoted to the Championship. Which tactic would you recommend?

 

[Stremka]

2 new records arrow in my tests. With 1 tactic

25496271_!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDP107ECFA(4321FM20.4P107)P364(168)

Werder last record 79pts.( with venom 41212)  New record 84

Parma last record 86/ (with HolyghostfireKnapCrushoBendixvol34231p103ec New record - 88

 

Edited August 3, 2020 by Stremka

[knap]

@Gurmeet

Google docs is sortable

Main tab can sort by recommended underdog

MR L Tab CA 135Column,

There is also a Norwich test tab.

These can be used as a guide to which tactic may work best. 

[knap]

@kitchin75

MR L CA 135 is the most up to date test, so if nesr top should be a good underdog tactic

[Beekimov]

@knap

I'm using for a while the warpigs tactic (P107) , unfortunately this tactic doesn't work very well anymore

My strikers miss a lot of chances...

Is there maby a better tactic for my Leeds team??

If you see my selection, i think i can win the league with a good tactic....

I'm playing with a Legends database

I hope you can help me  

Thanks  

 

[knap]

@Beekimov

Try a CA160 to tactic from MR L Tab.

If a top team you can also use the Lpool pts column on main tab

[Beekimov]

37 minutes ago, knap said:

@Beekimov

Try a CA160 to tactic from MR L Tab.

If a top team you can also use the Lpool pts column on main tab

Thanks @knap 

Little question.... there are so many CA 160 tactics.... 

Where to begin...

Can you maybe give me a few good working tactics?? 

Thanks !!!! 

[knap]

@Beekimov

Any of the top ten tactics

[Beekimov]

39 minutes ago, knap said:

@Beekimov

Any of the top ten tactics

Thanks again  

 

[Jongii]

I'm starting a go in Vanarama National League North, with one of the best sides in that division - any recommended tactics for my climb up from the lower leagues?

[knap]

@Jongii

I would try a top ten either overall or CA 160 Tactic on MR L test.

If you wan to try MM then a front 3 triangle tactic works best.

[FalseNine]

@jongii I could suggest beowulf 424 P 103. I got 3 back to back champions with Boston Utd on my way to PL.

 

 

 

[middleweight165]

On 02/08/2020 at 18:05, knap said:

@middleweight165

Sounds like a plan and can use 4141 as a defensive option.

If the 4-1-3-2 is thes best for an underdog team, in what scenario would you use the 4-1-4-1?

[Jongii]

37 minutes ago, FalseNine said:

@jongii I could suggest beowulf 424 P 103. I got 3 back to back champions with Boston Utd on my way to PL.

Thanks, ill try this

 

 

 

[danelson]

In dumb terms - what's the best tactic out of all?

[knap]

@danelson

In theory the highest pts total on MR L Test, although82 games is a short test.

[Heywood JaBlowme]

2 hours ago, danelson said:

In dumb terms - what's the best tactic out of all?

Best to ask what is the best tactic for your club. Try the top tested tactics and see how your squad responds. 

[anatolycastella]

@knap could you provide a short text with differences between your tactics names? (preachingblues,beowulf etc etc) ... are these different styles? I dont understand what does it mean lol sorry.

I think it would make more clear for everyone when choosing one of the million tactics on this thread  

Great job btw..loving your tactics this year!

[knap]

@anatolycastella

They are just grouped together because they share the same underlying set up. Most of the time it is just passing and tempo  

[knap]

FM 20.4.1

NORTHERN SOUL 442 P98 ALL CUPS MR L Test p345 (177-168)

!FM20.3.4NorthernSoul442MrHRDFKnpP98allcupsP345(168).fmf

 

[knap]

fm 20.4.1

RUN LIKE HELL 4231 SKEW IF IF R L Test p346 (196-150)

M20.4.1RUNLIKEHELLKnap4231SKEWIFIF346(196-150).fmf

 

[MrGerhard]

 

Nice tactic. Media prediction 13.

[knap]

Northern soul 442 re test MR L P354 (196-156)

[alkenalkin]

What is the best 3 defenders tactic ?

[LandonDonovan10]

These tactics working great with any kind of club but I'm really struggling with national teams. something just doesnt work. any idea or tips? 

[knap]

@alkenalkin

Tactic highest on MR L Test with 3 CBs 532.

[knap]

@LandonDonovan10

Have you tries TIME Tactics as no PIs, so the players can play to their abilities.

[RDF Tactics]

On 04/08/2020 at 16:43, anatolycastella said:

@knap could you provide a short text with differences between your tactics names? (preachingblues,beowulf etc etc) ... are these different styles? I dont understand what does it mean lol sorry.

I think it would make more clear for everyone when choosing one of the million tactics on this thread  

Great job btw..loving your tactics this year!

Hope This Can Help Everyone Else.

 

Preachin' Blues is a demanding tactic. Mainly suitable to elite teams as there are only forr Team Instructions in possession! Also highly demanding player roles in CWBs, and IFWs. Leave the players every opportunity they get to use their skills, and not be locked by any system. The central forward stretches the line, and the side forwards cut inside. The central midfielder will arrive late into the box while the mezzala creates. This makes for many possible triangles and good passing combinations. Top teams who have quality defenders with sufficient pace and all-around skills will defend fine, while lesser teams will struggle with through balls behind the defensive line and 2 vs 1 situations.

Beowülf was THE best tactic on FM19. Wing play, looks of crosses (wing men to be on side of preferred foot), solid and compact. Simple shape, suitable for most sides with pretty general roles. Two Advanced Forwards harass the opposition out of possession and sit on the shoulder, leaving room for both Wingers to cut inside or hug the line.

Kashmir tactics. This is @Rober82 favorite tactic as it takes no hostages and goes forward chasing goals no matter the costs. That means you might win by a big margin (say 9-0), or you might lose. Extreme gegenpress combined with 3 strikers and often attacking wing backs, no one is looking to stay calm here. We want goals! The midfield has a CM and a Mezzala who both get forward as well, leaving the DLP alone with the two ball playing CBs, as the wing backs also want to score! Playing out of defence with short passing means you will need great players. In fact this tactic demands it all. Stamina and physics as you run all day chasing either the ball or a goal. High mental attributes to make the right choices under pressure. And of course technique to handle the tempo and tiki taka. Elite tops teams only.

Fire & Water tactics. It attempts to stay compact in defence with narrow defence width and the LB with "sit narrow" PI to retain shape. It has wingers who attack, a MC, two AMCs on attack duty, and an advanced forward. The front three should be your best players, as a lot are riding on those. Probably the AMCs are most important, especially one good long shot, technique, decisions and composure. In certain variations, 1 of the 2 AMCs is sort of a 2nd striker like Beek or Ilicic, while the other is a playmaker and will get more assists. A CB with the "tries long passes" trait is a bonus for the AF. 5 attackers and 3 on support with pass into space and attacking mentality. Every time defenders and DLP are on the ball, they will look for those 5 attackers. Goals are scored from crosses from the wing backs / wingers 50% and via through balls from AMCs and sometimes MC 50%. The 3 up front press hard, you'll see goals come from opposition mistakes from that pressing. However, you can get more yellow cards because of that.
So a squad with big depth is recommended. Well worth it though.

Tequila Sunrise tactics. Tequila Sunrise is a pressing tactic fitting to underdogs, even for lower league teams; the pressing is still there, but the use of the ball is fitted to less technical players. Central players are the most important; in particular the AM and the Mezzala, but also the DM needs to be solid defensively. Most goals will be scored from byline crosses and through balls. It depends on the players you have though, e.g. the AMC could be scoring long shots. 

[smithy20]

1 hour ago, RDF Tactics said:

Hope This Can Help Everyone Else.

 

Preachin' Blues is a demanding tactic. Mainly suitable to elite teams as there are only forr Team Instructions in possession! Also highly demanding player roles in CWBs, and IFWs. Leave the players every opportunity they get to use their skills, and not be locked by any system. The central forward stretches the line, and the side forwards cut inside. The central midfielder will arrive late into the box while the mezzala creates. This makes for many possible triangles and good passing combinations. Top teams who have quality defenders with sufficient pace and all-around skills will defend fine, while lesser teams will struggle with through balls behind the defensive line and 2 vs 1 situations.

Beowülf was THE best tactic on FM19. Wing play, looks of crosses (wing men to be on side of preferred foot), solid and compact. Simple shape, suitable for most sides with pretty general roles. Two Advanced Forwards harass the opposition out of possession and sit on the shoulder, leaving room for both Wingers to cut inside or hug the line.

Kashmir tactics. This is @Rober82 favorite tactic as it takes no hostages and goes forward chasing goals no matter the costs. That means you might win by a big margin (say 9-0), or you might lose. Extreme gegenpress combined with 3 strikers and often attacking wing backs, no one is looking to stay calm here. We want goals! The midfield has a CM and a Mezzala who both get forward as well, leaving the DLP alone with the two ball playing CBs, as the wing backs also want to score! Playing out of defence with short passing means you will need great players. In fact this tactic demands it all. Stamina and physics as you run all day chasing either the ball or a goal. High mental attributes to make the right choices under pressure. And of course technique to handle the tempo and tiki taka. Elite tops teams only.

Fire & Water tactics. It attempts to stay compact in defence with narrow defence width and the LB with "sit narrow" PI to retain shape. It has wingers who attack, a MC, two AMCs on attack duty, and an advanced forward. The front three should be your best players, as a lot are riding on those. Probably the AMCs are most important, especially one good long shot, technique, decisions and composure. In certain variations, 1 of the 2 AMCs is sort of a 2nd striker like Beek or Ilicic, while the other is a playmaker and will get more assists. A CB with the "tries long passes" trait is a bonus for the AF. 5 attackers and 3 on support with pass into space and attacking mentality. Every time defenders and DLP are on the ball, they will look for those 5 attackers. Goals are scored from crosses from the wing backs / wingers 50% and via through balls from AMCs and sometimes MC 50%. The 3 up front press hard, you'll see goals come from opposition mistakes from that pressing. However, you can get more yellow cards because of that.
So a squad with big depth is recommended. Well worth it though.

Tequila Sunrise tactics. Tequila Sunrise is a pressing tactic fitting to underdogs, even for lower league teams; the pressing is still there, but the use of the ball is fitted to less technical players. Central players are the most important; in particular the AM and the Mezzala, but also the DM needs to be solid defensively. Most goals will be scored from byline crosses and through balls. It depends on the players you have though, e.g. the AMC could be scoring long shots. 

 

 

Brilliant post and i agree the Fire 4321 shape is an amazing tactic, really fun to watch. Love the Beowulf/2 striker tactics also.

[anatolycastella]

1 hour ago, RDF Tactics said:

Hope This Can Help Everyone Else.

 

Preachin' Blues is a demanding tactic. Mainly suitable to elite teams as there are only forr Team Instructions in possession! Also highly demanding player roles in CWBs, and IFWs. Leave the players every opportunity they get to use their skills, and not be locked by any system. The central forward stretches the line, and the side forwards cut inside. The central midfielder will arrive late into the box while the mezzala creates. This makes for many possible triangles and good passing combinations. Top teams who have quality defenders with sufficient pace and all-around skills will defend fine, while lesser teams will struggle with through balls behind the defensive line and 2 vs 1 situations.

Beowülf was THE best tactic on FM19. Wing play, looks of crosses (wing men to be on side of preferred foot), solid and compact. Simple shape, suitable for most sides with pretty general roles. Two Advanced Forwards harass the opposition out of possession and sit on the shoulder, leaving room for both Wingers to cut inside or hug the line.

Kashmir tactics. This is @Rober82 favorite tactic as it takes no hostages and goes forward chasing goals no matter the costs. That means you might win by a big margin (say 9-0), or you might lose. Extreme gegenpress combined with 3 strikers and often attacking wing backs, no one is looking to stay calm here. We want goals! The midfield has a CM and a Mezzala who both get forward as well, leaving the DLP alone with the two ball playing CBs, as the wing backs also want to score! Playing out of defence with short passing means you will need great players. In fact this tactic demands it all. Stamina and physics as you run all day chasing either the ball or a goal. High mental attributes to make the right choices under pressure. And of course technique to handle the tempo and tiki taka. Elite tops teams only.

Fire & Water tactics. It attempts to stay compact in defence with narrow defence width and the LB with "sit narrow" PI to retain shape. It has wingers who attack, a MC, two AMCs on attack duty, and an advanced forward. The front three should be your best players, as a lot are riding on those. Probably the AMCs are most important, especially one good long shot, technique, decisions and composure. In certain variations, 1 of the 2 AMCs is sort of a 2nd striker like Beek or Ilicic, while the other is a playmaker and will get more assists. A CB with the "tries long passes" trait is a bonus for the AF. 5 attackers and 3 on support with pass into space and attacking mentality. Every time defenders and DLP are on the ball, they will look for those 5 attackers. Goals are scored from crosses from the wing backs / wingers 50% and via through balls from AMCs and sometimes MC 50%. The 3 up front press hard, you'll see goals come from opposition mistakes from that pressing. However, you can get more yellow cards because of that.
So a squad with big depth is recommended. Well worth it though.

Tequila Sunrise tactics. Tequila Sunrise is a pressing tactic fitting to underdogs, even for lower league teams; the pressing is still there, but the use of the ball is fitted to less technical players. Central players are the most important; in particular the AM and the Mezzala, but also the DM needs to be solid defensively. Most goals will be scored from byline crosses and through balls. It depends on the players you have though, e.g. the AMC could be scoring long shots. 

amazing explanation! thank you!

[marky-mark]

Sorry if i'm being thick, but where is Mr L testing results, not just for your tactics but for all. Just curious. Also do you have a 5-3-2 tactic, couldn't see one in the spreadsheet. Cheers.

 

[Scruffer23]

40 minutes ago, anatolycastella said:

amazing explanation! thank you!

@knap and @RDF Tactics what clubs do you deem as elite ??