JJ72 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Carrick on for Schneiderlin, what a disappointment he's been this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Again, you don't have to agree with the decision to acknowledge it. He didn't luck into finding Rashford, he took a calculated gamble that may well have cost him his job even though it's somewhat paid off. Wouldn't say it was a gamble. That implies he had a choice. Who else would he have played instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 more like forced to because he sold almost everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Wouldn't say it was a gamble. That implies he had a choice. Who else would he have played instead? Young ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 That was pretty nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 blind put the perfect cross in for carroll there:lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Mata and Martial! Come on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Wouldn't say it was a gamble. That implies he had a choice. Who else would he have played instead? RvP, Hernandez, Falcao, Welbeck. Oh no, wait, they aren't here. Because he sold them and gambled on youth. But then you appear to have only read the last comment and missed the entire point of the exchange. more like forced to because he sold almost everyone That's kind of the point isn't it? Not the brightest are you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 good goal LVG would survive a nuclear strike;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 RvP, Hernandez, Falcao, Welbeck.Oh no, wait, they aren't here. Because he sold them and gambled on youth. But then you appear to have only read the last comment and missed the entire point of the exchange. Except he didn't gamble, it was forced on him due to injuries. Quite sure he didn't sell them because he had Rashford waiting in the wings. Only one person missing the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Except he didn't gamble, it was forced on him due to injuries. Quite sure he didn't sell them because he had Rashford waiting in the wings. Only one person missing the point. Why did he sell them then? Because he thought a 19 year old Frenchman and an injury prone 30 year old were going to be fit and firing every game this season? Or maybe... just maybe... did he do what he always does and figure he'd get more out of one of the youth players because he's an egomanic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Why did he sell them then? Because he thought a 19 year old Frenchman and an injury prone 30 year old were going to be fit and firing every game this season? Or maybe... just maybe... did he do what he always does and figure he'd get more out of a youth player because he's an egomanic? RVPs legs had gone. Falcao was utter tripe. Chicha missed open goals and Welbz wanted to go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Crikey. LVG has said, several times, that he likes to have a small squad so that the kids can get a chance when there is an opening. The sold forwards weren't exactly pulling up trees either, so it made some sense to sell them (but I would have preferred a strong replacement). So when injuries occurred, as they always do, the young players got their chance. Some took it, others didn't. Rashford is still playing. Quite frankly, it's baffling how people can say he doesn't trust youths. All you have to do is look at the amount of matches they have got, and there's your answer. Compare with other (top) clubs if still not convinced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 west ham should have scored at least 4 by now might come back to bite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 RVPs legs had gone. Falcao was utter tripe. Chicha missed open goals and Welbz wanted to go So you mean he thought he'd get more out of a youth player than he would from the established names? The youth players he played when his apparently light squad was affected? See where I'm going with this? Durrrrrrrrrrr... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 So you mean he thought he'd get more out of a youth player than he would from the established names? The youth players he played when his apparently light squad was affected? See where I'm going with this? Durrrrrrrrrrr... The youth players he was forced to play not gamble on. Durr back..pathetic.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 So you mean he thought he'd get more out of a youth player than he would from the established names? The youth players he played when his apparently light squad was affected? See where I'm going with this? Durrrrrrrrrrr... so are you happy LVG will be in charge for at least another year?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 HURR DURR HURR DURR Just wanted to take part in the discussion, really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Again, you don't have to agree with the decision to acknowledge it. He didn't luck into finding Rashford, he took a calculated gamble that may well have cost him his job even though it's somewhat paid off. I have acknowledged the decision though, as you said, I don't agree with it. Maybe it was a calculated gamble. Maybe it was a them not being able to bring in a replacement. Either way it put him in a position where he had little choice in the decision to ultimately play Rashford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 The youth players he was forced to play not gamble on. Forced because he had no other options, because he sold those other options. Now you're left with three options on why he sold them a) he forgot about the concept of injuries b) he isn't in charge of selling players c) he wasn't happy with the options and thought he'd get better contributions from the kids. You're free to believe whatever you like, but one of those is a little bit more likely than the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I have acknowledged the decision though, as you said, I don't agree with it. Maybe it was a calculated gamble. Maybe it was a them not being able to bring in a replacement. Either way it put him in a position where he had little choice in the decision to ultimately play Rashford. Not "it", "he". He put himself into that position and he's done it before a few times in his career. That's the definition of a gamble. Personally I think it was a stupid one and I'd happily trade Rashford's career for a top class striker but if I want to blame LvG for that then you have to give him credit for the kids who do well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Forced because he had no other options, because he sold those other options. Now you're left with three options on why he sold them a) he forgot about the concept of injuries b) he isn't in charge of selling players c) he wasn't happy with the options and thought he'd get better contributions from the kids. You're free to believe whatever you like, but one of those is a little bit more likely than the others. d- deluded/incompetent /arrogant/out of touch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 d- deluded/incompetent /arrogant/out of touch Not really, those are covered by a and b. Idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Not really, those are covered by a and b. Idiot. are you paddy crerrand:lol: deary me and please can I borrow those rose tinted glasses must be great watching Utd wearing those Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Not "it", "he". He put himself into that position and he's done it before a few times in his career. That's the definition of a gamble. Personally I think it was a stupid one and I'd happily trade Rashford's career for a top class striker but if I want to blame LvG for that then you have to give him credit for the kids who do well. Fair point. Like I said I also thought it was a stupid decision, but I am happy that Rashford, Fosu-Mensah etc have been as good as they have when played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Fair point. Like I said I also thought it was a stupid decision, but I am happy that Rashford, Fosu-Mensah etc have been as good as they have when played. Makes you wonder why only one is playing tonight? Must be because he believes in youth...oh... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 are you paddy crerrand:lol:deary me and please can I borrow those rose tinted glasses must be great watching Utd wearing those They worked just then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Fantastic! Martial is such class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Terrible keeping mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Makes you wonder why only one is playing tonight? Must be because he believes in youth...oh... I'm the last person you should be asking what goes through the mind of one Louis van Gaal. But maybe he fears for his job knowing fully well what will happen if he doesn't get us to 4th. And maybe this is the best team he thinks he can succeed with. But, like I said, idk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 They worked just then. that's ok then our youth are very good, did state that long before he played them but its not by design he picked them and this game should be 5-2 to west ham, lucky louise ...world class:applause: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Makes you wonder why only one is playing tonight? Must be because he believes in youth...oh... Yes, he should play injured players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 ****. That didn't last long : Oh, and the sky guys close to a Gary Neville-esque orgasm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Yes, he should play injured players. Maybe he should gamble on even younger players... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 ****. That didn't last long :Oh, and the sky guys close to a Gary Neville-esque orgasm. Right? And dammit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 and this game should be 5-2 to west ham, lucky louise ...world class:applause: Explain please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Explain please? You don't have the necessary qualifications to deal with the answer to that question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob21 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Sorry wrong thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 You don't have the necessary qualifications to deal with the answer to that question. But I want to see the utter lack of logic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 We really are **** at defending set pieces, Blind getting nowhere near him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Explain please? sorry 7-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 We really are **** at defending set pieces, Blind getting nowhere near him. Absolutely awful. Blind's been nowhere near anyone today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Going to get hammered now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 sorry 7-2 That's not an explanation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Feel sorry for De Gea and Martial playing with such ***** players and manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Feel sorry for De Gea and Martial playing with such ***** players and manager. I don't like to think about where we'd be without De Gea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Come on Adnan!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 That's not an explanation see teams have shots/clear gut chances(I know its hard to understand as we are not used to that) and west ham have had lots of chances that should have been taken...we haven't, which is unusual I am surprised he hasn't brought on a FB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Need a goal and a youth enters the pitch... Not that I think it will work, but it does show.. something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Come on Adnan!!!! Hahahahahaha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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