knap Posted October 6, 2008 Author Share Posted October 6, 2008 Oxford in League 2 http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cocacolaleague2leaguetakx5.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 6, 2008 Author Share Posted October 6, 2008 For away games try the defend tactic http://files.filefront.com/00V1100PTS4321de8tac/;11992718;/fileinfo.html Tactic used by MU http://files.filefront.com/Knap00423198ptsMU+Arsena8tac/;11992708;/fileinfo.html No farrow tactic used by Chelsea but without barrow http://files.filefront.com/Knap00423197PTSNofarrows8tac/;11992702;/fileinfo.html Feedback appreciated if you test them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I changed to the one with the AMR and AML the other one didnt work out so well in the friendlies plus the transfer for my 2nd striker fell through. Might test the 4-4-2 with the next team I play as. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister_C Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Knap I'll test your new tactic with Werder Bremen then I give feedback . Btw thanks a lot for the tactics . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 6, 2008 Author Share Posted October 6, 2008 I would not worry about friendlies, as my guess is that a std 442 will work better in friendlies until the team gels with a very different type of tactic. Also if you do not set manager reputation at start you will probably get poor results from an unusual tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trampy Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Hey Knap, first of all GREAT TACTIC probably the most effective for me since B1GD way back when or one of the many 4-5-1 variations. Easily got my own Oxford side promoted first season but now Ive got a bit of competition Im finding it very difficult on my travels 2 wins from the last 7 away fixtures. Im using the 106 tactic. Any advice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 6, 2008 Author Share Posted October 6, 2008 Try the Defend tactic in post 402 or the 102pt counter attack for away games. Also if AI use 352 add long farrows to get behind AI FBs. You need to upgrade squad for each new league, let me know if you need a few player suggestions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMS Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Little update for you. Wasn't happy with the lack of support for my anchorman so I dropped my to amc's forward runs to mixed and put forward arrows on my wide midfielders and just won two on the bounce at home with Weymouth in the Championship quite comfortably. Lovely balance about this formation. Currently playing in this shape and altering tempo, width, base mentality and frd runs for home/away games - ******Gk****** RB***CB**CB***LB ******DM***** RM***********LM ****AM**AM*** ******CF****** RM and LM have frd arrows at home, none away. Dm has a frd arrow. AM's have back arrows. It's going nicely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Knap - I'm trying the Defend tactic now, but in all other tactics the wingers farrows only went as far as AML/R and now they go all the way up, is that right? Also I love your tactics, but you got them posted all over this thread, for all that is holy, please please please UPDATE your first post with the main tactics to download bud Cheers Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 6, 2008 Author Share Posted October 6, 2008 Steve The idea of long farrows is to put pressure on AI fullbacks and try to exploit area behind them. No idea how to edit posts only just found out how to do screenshots. Thanks Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Knap - There is an 'Edit' button at the bottom of every post you make, it is in a little blue box. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 No bother bud. Now you can edit up that first post with new links for your different tactics...... and hopefully a little description of them Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 For away games try the defend tactichttp://files.filefront.com/00V1100PTS4321de8tac/;11992718;/fileinfo.html He Knap do you have a screenshot of this tactic? I use 106 for away games, I had a lot of draws. I try this tactic (110pts) for away games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 He Knap Which training Schedule do you use? I always use the standard settings (never do anything with training, sometimes I want that a player train for a new position) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 I tend to use Darkstarr but adjusted. However, I also use a 1st team training set up basically as the standard but changed for Pre Season and reduced about mid season for test games. I will attempt to edit first post in stages and add screeshots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che1974 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 One of my tweaks involved long farrows on the ML and MR on the home tactic, and it really pins teams down and puts them under heavy pressure, other home tweaks include tight marking for all players except the centre backs, time wasting of 10, and also giving the striker and ML and MR creative freedom 10, i have only lost once at home with this tactic and that was to a team who had much better players, and i had just taken over and most players moral was poor, or very poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Che1974 Try free roles on ML and MR rather than creative freedom. The long farrows are a good way to go more attacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigi Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 knap. Your tactic is one of the best i have tried. With 3rd League Danish team i am in the qfinal of domestic cup, i have also great run in the league. Today or tommorow i will put screenshots. And if you could please edit first post and add links for all versions with short description. superb tac cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 I will try to add screenshots and descriptions to first post later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I've been using the DEFEND tactic for my away games, but its not really working very well, i'm getting alot of draws and a few losses with it. I think the quick counter tactic is slightly better for away games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaq12 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 knap, thanks for your tips about players. i bought fernandez,vdv,guillerme,samba,richards,barnes,veloso,lloris and eduardo. first season i finished 3rd and now i'm first with 7 win and 1 drow. my first eleven are: gk-robinson rb-richards lb-bale rcb-samba lcb-king mr-barnes ml-m.fernandez mc-veloso/eduardo lamc-vdv ramc-guillerme fc-bent/crouch please could you tell me some more players suitable for this amazing tactic? also any advise regarding my team would be appreciate. cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Torres, Marcelo,Breno. I have another defend tactic so will add to post 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I have another defend tactic so will add to post 1. Knap - Your a star mate Are you working on an AWAY version of your tactic or just trying to make it more defensive? Cheers Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Standard 4141 formation. Only some of links work and you an only add 4 images, so editing Post 1 has not worked that well. I prefer to use same tactic home and away. Prefer to upgrade team rather than keep changing tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigi Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Standard 4141 formation.Only some of links work and you an only add 4 images, so editing Post 1 has not worked that well. I prefer to use same tactic home and away. Prefer to upgrade team rather than keep changing tactics. some links does not work because you have added cutted links. You have to paste full length link ( without three dots inside ) Hope you understand me edit: hmm.. all links seems work correctly for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Knap - Do you do your own team talks for this tactic or do you let your assistant take care of them? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Should now be fixed and added a few bonus tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Ass Man team talks, sometimes I change them if a player is under pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy2006 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Hi Knap, I am a bit confused with all these tactics u have uploaded so I was just wondering if you could point me in the right direction. Basically I am AFC Wimbledon and after 5 back to back promotions I am in the Championship and struggling to find consistancy from my tactics that I have used b4. After I read this thread I thought great someone has got back to back promotions all the way up2 the top and done really well when getting into the Premiership. Now after reading this thread there seem to be so many different tactics to use I have downloaded the 106 pts one and I was just wondering if that would be the right tactic to use for a newly promoted side in the championship or if not which one should I use? Many Thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Use the 106pts If you find you are under pressure from AI try the 102pt counter attack, as this changes pace and is narrow to help defence and pushes up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I think there are a bit too much tactics now, making it a little confusing on which tactic to use, so I have reverted back to just using the 106pts tactic for both home and away games. Is working well for me, although I will play the SUS tactic late on, in games where i'm only winning by a goal. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 but in the last ten/15 minutes i use the defend tactic or the SUS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMS Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Ok, have gone down the filefront avenue and have got my four formations available. Knap is the influence for the shape of the 4-2-3-1 and 4-1-4-1 and Catanaccio and Wingman are my own work. Play the formations in the following situations. First two are the base formations using Knaps shape. Second two are the ultra defensive and attacking options that i've been using for ages. If favourite for a game or playing an inferior side then start with 4-3-2-1. http://files.filefront.com/4+3+2+1tac/;12004538;/fileinfo.html If not the favourite or playing a stronger side then start with 4-1-4-1. http://files.filefront.com/4+1+4+1tac/;12004537;/fileinfo.html Switch these two formations during the game if you are unsucessful with either. To close out a game go to Catenaccio (Catenaccio is Italian for door bolt, Inter Milan created the Catenaccio is the 1960's). It is in essence a 5-4-1. Handles the AI 4-2-4 rather well. http://files.filefront.com/Catenacciotac/;12004539;/fileinfo.html To chase the game if you need a goal then play Wingman. This is your own 4-2-4. Self explanatory really. http://files.filefront.com/Wingmantac/;12004540;/fileinfo.html I know only use these four formations for every game situation. Obviously you need certain players for certain positions. All set piece routines are set in each formation, no corner cheat used. Any questions/opinions welcome. Thanks to Knap for the shape of the basic formations. A great tactic Knap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 If using Man U or Arsenal you can just use 107pt tactic, no need for defend or SUS. With weaker teams use 106pts, you then need to make a Managers call to close match out or continue with tactic. If controlling game but not scoring then you can try the variations - adding creative freedom etc. 2 Main tactics with plan B options to defend or attack. The other formations are for if you do not have the players to play the Main tactics or you just want a change or 3 No farrow tactics to prepare for FM09, plus a 424 if you feel lucky. I very seldom change tactic or use SUS tactics, however the options are available and in games when AI are on fire then a complete change in tactic style can get you back in game rather than suffer a heavy defeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 YAMS I will give them a run out on Holiday season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMS Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 YAMSI will give them a run out on Holiday season. Made a few tweaks Knap, try the new links above on the orignal post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 what tactic for a Italian top team? 106 or 107 Now I use 106, home unbeatable, away no lose lot of draws Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigi Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Wijnand fens. For away games try 102Counter. I use this tactic when i'm playing against much better teams or when 106A tac seems not working. On the last 10 min or when AI set 424 i use SUS. cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Wijnand fens. For away games try 102Counter.I use this tactic when i'm playing against much better teams or when 106A tac seems not working. On the last 10 min or when AI set 424 i use SUS. cheers thank you for the tip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lambs Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I know this is not a real test, but I am using the tactic listed on the first page in a sign up I running called "The Luton Revival". The team was made up of 80 CA 16-21 year olds in League 2 and Luton started with a -30 point penalty. So far this season we have won 32, Drew 9 and Lost 4 with 1 game left to play and are in 4th place. I am impressed with this tactic, I had never thought of using a zero creative freedom tactic before, but it really suits this squad of youngsters. I think they can get through the play offs and I will use the 4 tactics above then. Great work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 8, 2008 Author Share Posted October 8, 2008 YAMS Run 4321 as Holiday squad is strong but only made 93pts, could be FM07 not same as FM08 or many other variables. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlugovid Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 hey knap! I,m using 106 tactic with excellent results in spanish league with villareal. What kind of striker do you reccomend?? a fast and creative striker or a tall striker with good heading and jumping?? thanks so much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltjon Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 hey knap! I,m using 106 tactic with excellent results in spanish league with villareal. What kind of striker do you reccomend?? a fast and creative striker or a tall striker with good heading and jumping??thanks so much for me the best is Chamakh of Bordeaux....good pace and goog haad.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMS Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 YAMSRun 4321 as Holiday squad is strong but only made 93pts, could be FM07 not same as FM08 or many other variables. Could be Knap yeah. Especially on the FM07/08 theory. I've changed a few things tonight actually! Now have one of the AMC's playing at MC with a forward arrow. The winger on his side now gets a double forward arrow to the centre forwards line. This is allowing a creative centre mid with good passing and decisions to play. The att mid is all about dribbling and finishing. Better balance now I think and certainly easier to get the right players. Will keep working on this idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 excuse me what is the difference of general sus and shut up shop tactic counterattackman??and the difference of the counter and the slow counter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 8, 2008 Author Share Posted October 8, 2008 The main tactic 106 uses a slow tempo and has a SUS and CA based on this main tactic. The quick tempo CA also has a SUS using man marking on back 4. These allow a switch between slow to quick tactics or normal to counter attack, providing options within the same tactical set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 thank's knap, but what's the difference of attacking mentality creative freedoom and free roles?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenaJohnno Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 knap,thanks for your tips about players. i bought fernandez,vdv,guillerme,samba,richards,barnes,veloso,lloris and eduardo. first season i finished 3rd and now i'm first with 7 win and 1 drow. my first eleven are: gk-robinson rb-richards lb-bale rcb-samba lcb-king mr-barnes ml-m.fernandez mc-veloso/eduardo lamc-vdv ramc-guillerme fc-bent/crouch please could you tell me some more players suitable for this amazing tactic? also any advise regarding my team would be appreciate. cheers Wow I got 5 of the ones you got for your tottenham team strange :S difference is I got Huntelaar up front, Woodgate is great with me with that tactic, Barnes is doing fantastic. I decided to sell Modric and get in Rosina as well, hasn't done much, Ghaly is actually alright at the MC position as well by the way. How much you pay for Micah Richards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 Hooligan I'm trying to look at this from the Dugout. You send team out with tactic in style of play you want them to use. If its 0-0 at 60th minute and you are expecting to win, then I would encourage the team to get forward more (Attacking) or vary the attack more and be creative (creative and free roles). If away from Home up 1-0 at 60th minute you would encourage the team to keep it tight and counter attack, in 80th min Keep it tight and stay back. Rather than messing around during match adjusting sliders, there are some option tactics to vary the play. I tend to use Guilherme upfront but Huntlelaar should be more than capable. Also prefer Fernandez at AMC so tend to by a LM - Dentinho looks promising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 4321 Attack tactic using LR & ML rather than 4141 AMR & AMLhttp://files.filefront.com/00V1106APTS4321+Totte8tac/;11956030;/fileinfo.html is this the tactic to grab a goal? or is that the 104 very attacck tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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