Mr Hough Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 ok thanks i'll try this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ123 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I thought I would give my input to an interesting, rollar coaster ride that this tactic has given me.I have used the 106 tactic with Weymouth after starting a new game. Capacity 6600, little money. I got promoted to League 2 after two seasons in the BSP Prem. Got promoted straight to League 1 the next year, and the Championship the year after. My problems started when my excellent youngsters (with the help of Genie) wanted to move to bigger clubs, and after rubbish bids by bigger clubs, the Weymouth board accepting and them going. These players cannot be replaced - no player with anything like a decent CA is interested in joining, so I have to sign prospects who are not ready for the Championship. I can't even get decent loanees from my parent club, Everton. I lost 10 out of the last 12 games of last season, and I am a lowly 19th this season. Morale is very poor with most players, and I conceding 2-3 goals a game. Before my crash in form last season, I was upto 2nd place. I really wanted to take them to the Prem and Europe, but with the council blocking stadium expansion EVERY SEASON, I have taken them as far as I can (I think). I am gutted it's gone sour! Sendings off, injuries, players wanting to leave, disallowed goals, dominating possession and attempts at goal (although my attempts:goal ratio is shocking), opposition 'keepers getting 8s and 9s, last minute goals etc etc! Thoughts please. It's all gone wrong at Weymouth after loving the challenge and the tactic (I imagine it is quals with a good team!!) Thanks for your time. Andy Hi Andy, seems like you have done a great job - dont give up now, these things happen in real life football too!! I am Eastleigh and started in the lower blue sqaure league also. I climed up to the championship with good buys and a 3-4-1-2 tactic (no genie) and spent 4 seasons in the championship. Its a very tough league to get out of. I never asked for any stadium expansions so 8 seasons in and I still had a capacity of 3300! - had to sell my best players every season to keep afloat. I the changed to Knaps tactics and used Wolfsburgs team talks and managed to win the championship on goal diff. I am now 7 th in the prem in the first season, in the final of the league cup and looks like I may qaulify for europe. Keep the faith dude, you may have to consilidate for 3-4 seasons in the championship, but you will get to the prem mate. Hope this helps, PJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I changed the links in post 645, because I made a mistake with both tactics, some instructions where not the same as in FM08 So in post 645, you can find the good tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 Apparantly this is a Nike defence for Mourinho-type managers, as it can do well without excessive creative freedom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 Wijnand, I've opend a thread for FM09 as it was probably confusing enough with all the FM08 tactics in post 1. Many thanks for taking time to provide link and test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew197 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Knap & PJ & and anyone who is interested, I decided to go back to my Weymouth game (before the PJ post). I am too competitive! LOL. Anyway, I put a little run together, then back to inconsistency, losses etc. DAMN! I was using 106 (from BSP to Championship), then had some success with 107 this season. To add insult to my (literally) injuries, I have beaten Prem opposition 3 times this year - Bolton (League Cup), Newcastle and Everton (FA Cup), drew with Man Utd (FA Cup) before losing at Old Trafford to a 90 + 4 min goal! Then I go and draw against 22nd placed Plymouth 5 days later???!!? My hair is turning grey....lol My best players are kicking off again. I will lose them (my best Striker isn't signing a contract and will leave on a Bosman at end of year) The board are only satisfied with me.. I have 12 million in the bank, upgraded to Top training facilities now, good Youth set up, and nearly completed a 3300 expansion (taking us to about 10000 capacity). I am 12th. P37 W14 D9 L14 F72 A60 +12 Pts51 Thoughts/ideas/words of comfort please - LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 The paceof 107 may help but it is aggressive attacking, so perhaps 102 but untick counter attack. However, its really about searching to get the best players you can on the Budget. After PJs post looks like it could be worth the effort and you will be well chuffed if you can eventually win EPL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 i've been using 107 tactic but i did notice is was just a tad vunrable so i changed the winger to midfielders and as well as giving great attacking it's also very solid at the back to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 The 107 tries to dominate and goes for the win but tends to lose rather than draw especially without the players to dominate but with same Nike back 4. If you wish to close out game trying pushing DL right up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew197 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Sorry if this has been asked, do you change individual instructions? RWB? TTB? LS etc? Thanks, I am going back for "one more season" (lol), and reverting to 106. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 Andy, In theory NO. My method of testing is on a step change basis on a holiday season and this is the ideal set up to maximise points over a season. However no squad is exactly the same and injuries/rotation play a part as well as AI formations etc etc. My advice is to use base tactics in most circumstances and tweak for specific situations such as long farrows against 352. Good luck with the new season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 Andy I should also add that I have tested with many Clubs on a non holiday basis without any tweaks with both 106 and 107. With a Club like Oxford/Woking I found the 106 worked better. Clubs like MU I've used 107 and won Prem with 102pts and this is with Rooney as lone striker and also won Prem with Chelsea using Drogba, and just using the standard, although rather good, squads. With the Oxford game, as a test I did not tweak for the 6 seasons to see if the AI did really learn how to defeat your tactics, if you just used the same tactic season in season out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ123 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 AndyI should also add that I have tested with many Clubs on a non holiday basis without any tweaks with both 106 and 107. With a Club like Oxford/Woking I found the 106 worked better. Clubs like MU I've used 107 and won Prem with 102pts and this is with Rooney as lone striker and also won Prem with Chelsea using Drogba, and just using the standard, although rather good, squads. With the Oxford game, as a test I did not tweak for the 6 seasons to see if the AI did really learn how to defeat your tactics, if you just used the same tactic season in season out. Andy/Knap, also just to make clear... I have used the 106 for my success with Eastliegh, and tweaked winger/fullback arrows, and tempo/d line/mentality for various games accordingly. Oh and BTW I won the league cup against Chelski. PJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew197 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 What, what's the relationship between defensive line and opposition? Better the opposition, deeper the dl? When trying to close a game out? Two of my best players have just left.. Lol Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 Andy I very seldom tweak the set up, but find with the 107 tactic that if you push right up you squeeze the life out of a game. The 102 man mark tactic is probably the most defensive and pushes up and takes fwd runs off full backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ123 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 What, what's the relationship between defensive line and opposition? Better the opposition, deeper the dl? When trying to close a game out? Two of my best players have just left.. Lol Andy Depends on how the other team play. I am not saying change the whole tactic for every game - just tweak it. I always have my scout set up to give me a scouting report of the opposition team pre game so they can tell me if they play a deep defensive line. Make sure you scout has a high judging player ability and tactical knowledge. This wont guarantee a win, but I think all these little things contribute to more chance of success - as rafa, and mouriniho said - ' its the small details' !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 8, 2008 Author Share Posted November 8, 2008 PJ You are probably right and small details may matter. However, I do not read scout reports or set OIs for those dangerous players, always use Ass Man for team talks and this has always worked in FM08 with the right tactic and players. FM09 may be different, however I doubt you would believe the settings I used for this Chelsea away game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ123 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Hi Knap, each to our own I guess. Your tactic rocks, and without it I would not of achieved what I have with Eastliegh. But I have a better example than yours!!! I beat Chelski, 1-0 with EASTLIEGH!!!! in the league cup final!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz da man 2004 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 my best reult ever using 106 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ123 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 How do you add screens, rather than a link?.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler42 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 You need to take a lesson in how to name tactics, im not bothered trying these cause I cant make out what tactic is the one to use (There are 10 different ones and all have ridiculous names) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler42 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Okay after testing almost all of them I found a specific one that just gave me the most random result ive seen in my FM08 career O_O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 A recap on numbers used in the tactic title. The numbers represent the pts obtained on a holiday season and is therefore a performance indicator. I test maNy variables on this season by either step changes or new ideas. For example, I can add long farrows to wingers and test tactic and then compare results and this gives an indication whether a tweak is suitable for long term performance compared to a just a short term gain and should be added in match in certain circumstances. Most of the tactics are based on No Creative Freedom. I have a few with limited creative feedom or a tactic with high team creative freedom, again ideas that can be added to mix withourt hurting the long term performance of tactic. I have downloaded most tactics available and tested these and very few make it to 95pts. You will have to make your own mind up about the value of holiday season testing, and using the tactic is one way to draw a conclusion. A few non holiday results - The Main 106 tactic took Oxford from BSP to EPL title in 6 seasons an Leeds promotion. The 107 Tactic won EPL with MU with 102pts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalglish1 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 sweet tactic!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Hi All Does anyone still have the links for these tactics ? All appear to be dead... Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Should be a complete set http://www.sendspace.com/file/jo3ilc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 First class. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikcheck Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I'm gonna start a new save in fm08. Knap, wich version did you think suits the best for Sevilla ? 106 ? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 106 although 107 can work well with a top team and good AMR/L in any league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikcheck Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 thanks. what about 108 ? shouldnt be better than both ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 The 108 uses a variation on the CB setup and can blow hot and cold. Too many variables to be that precise, and the 106 was used for Oxford over 6 seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikcheck Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I made a season with Sevilla and reached 2nd place wich is very very good. Now i will try with a weaker team in Portugal. Did you use another version for weaker teams ? or any changes i can make to 106 tactic ? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 My Oxford team 1st Season in PRM was a weak team by PRM standards but still finished mid table using 106.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooner Nation Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Sorry to bump such an old thread but I'm looking for anyone that still has preferrably the 107 point version but the 106 point version will work as well. All the links are dead. I'd be very grateful to anyone who could help me track this down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 21, 2011 Author Share Posted May 21, 2011 Still have them so can add a new link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 21, 2011 Author Share Posted May 21, 2011 Original 106pts xtree Oxford tactic http://www.mediafire.com/?vd2vqxaxgg664d2 107pts 4141 Formation with free roles for AMR/L http://www.mediafire.com/?528j6cwp2wp1o8r Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmalcs87 Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Can you post a picture of the team instructions? Would be much appreciated. I play on xbox 360 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 The one thing about older threads like this, is when they're resurrected, I can move them to the downloads section, having not gone so many years back when we set it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 19, 2011 Author Share Posted July 19, 2011 The old tactics in FM08 used barrows and farrows which are no longer available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmalcs87 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 The old tactics in FM08 used barrows and farrows which are no longer available. Its FM08 I play on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 19, 2011 Author Share Posted July 19, 2011 I don't have FM08 set up, just keep tactics. The team set up is per screenshot with farrows and barrows. Passing and tempo and slow and short about 5 from left. DL middle. Try mentality on 1st notch attacking. The key is No creative freedom as adds about 3 pts a season. Corners challenge GK. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark1980 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 This tactic completely ruined the progress i was making - the team's performance is just TERRIBLE! no CCCs, no shots and the list goes on and on. I wish I had sticked to my old tactic. No disrespect but your tactics never worked for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 20, 2011 Author Share Posted July 20, 2011 If you were making progress then I would not change tactic. I am happy if the tactic just works for one other player as you can't win them all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev1975 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 any chance of re posting these tactics mate thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 http://www.mediafire.com/?vd2vqxaxgg664d2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Started Something Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Hi Knap, Sorry just spotted your thread on here - had a hard drive crash and lost all my old FM tactics :o/ Is there any chance you could re-post the Oxford format links? Just tried the above but sadly it has expired. Cheers, Geoff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesseh Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Hi Knap,Sorry just spotted your thread on here - had a hard drive crash and lost all my old FM tactics :o/ Is there any chance you could re-post the Oxford format links? Just tried the above but sadly it has expired. Cheers, Geoff. Here it is http://www.zshare.net/download/9430510100424556/ great tactic by Knap as usual =) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Started Something Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Many Thanks Jesseh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titofonias Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Sorry for bumping, Does anyone have the full tactic pack? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjericho Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 It's tactic from 2007... It won't work in FM14 (unless you're still playing FM08 in that case good luck finding the pack) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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