Bababui Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t239/bababui_2007/0fmreferee.jpg Yes, the bug where one guy officiates most of your matches is back. Its a really bad bug if you get a card happy official. I suppose this is a bug that wont get fixed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swalls Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t239/bababui_2007/0fmreferee.jpgYes, the bug where one guy officiates most of your matches is back. Its a really bad bug if you get a card happy official. I suppose this is a bug that wont get fixed. really really lol. what else can i say, i would like to say something else but it´s just :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swalls Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 sorry to be bringing back old threads, but i think that i just had an epiphany. i am just wondering about those threads where people are complaining about redcards "there are too many redcards!!!" says the dude with the card happy ref. "what are you talking about? i don´t have that problem at all" says the dude with the lenient ref. "i tell you, there is something seriously wrong" says the dude with the card happy ref. "ah stop moaning and a good frmte to you" says the dude with the lenient ref. imagine that it could appply to some of the other issues, now that would be really funny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coentrao Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 It's a good point though, maybe the people that are getting a lot of red cards are "stuck" with a strict referee.. it could be that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyr1777 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 *sigh*... how hard is it to get random generation right. Little things like this make SI look really bad, have to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 that ref hasn't handed out a red card in atleast his last 10 matches. what's wrong with that ? 2 or 3 yellow cards a match isn't a card happy ref or game breaking. Nothing wrong with hose figures, now if a ref was to hand out 8+ yellow cards per match then yes, that is what is known as a card happy ref. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyr1777 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 that ref hasn't handed out a red card in atleast his last 10 matches. what's wrong with that ? 2 or 3 yellow cards a match isn't a card happy ref or game breaking. Nothing wrong with hose figures, now if a ref was to hand out 8+ yellow cards per match then yes, that is what is known as a card happy ref. Doesn't matter... still shows that the ref's aren't being properly randomized. So there will be some team that's always getting the real strict ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bababui Posted April 7, 2011 Author Share Posted April 7, 2011 that ref hasn't handed out a red card in atleast his last 10 matches. what's wrong with that ? 2 or 3 yellow cards a match isn't a card happy ref or game breaking. Nothing wrong with hose figures, now if a ref was to hand out 8+ yellow cards per match then yes, that is what is known as a card happy ref. What Martyr said. Wonder how this crept back in the game after being fixed with the first patch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swalls Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 game breaking you may want to renew your specs, buddy. no one but you have even said the word gamebreaking, there is a big difference between pointing out a problem and calling it gamebreaking. why do some of you do this, is it really absolutely necessary that you put words into other peoples mouths? honestly, it´s kind of dumb. why does everything have to be gamebreaking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikal Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 you may want to renew your specs, buddy. no one but you have even said the word gamebreaking, there is a big difference between pointing out a problem and calling it gamebreaking. why do some of you do this, is it really absolutely necessary that you put words into other peoples mouths?honestly, it´s kind of dumb. why does everything have to be gamebreaking? I think you should read over his post again. And then again for good measure. You can't just quote a part of his post and take it out of context, makes you look a right twonk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscotti Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I think you should read over his post again. And then again for good measure. You can't just quote a part of his post and take it out of context, makes you look a right twonk. I think the problem isn't necessarily what Wiitastic said, more the fact that he didn't actually read what the problem was or why it was a problem before he commented. He saw what he expected to see, which was a thread complaining about a card-happy ref, but in actual fact this is a thread pointing out a problem with the randomisation of referees - which is the underlying problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swalls Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 that ref hasn't handed out a red card in atleast his last 10 matches. what's wrong with that ? 2 or 3 yellow cards a match isn't a card happy ref or game breaking. Nothing wrong with hose figures, now if a ref was to hand out 8+ yellow cards per match then yes, that is what is known as a card happy ref. @mikal, what is your problem? read the post and tell me why the gamebreaking thing was mentioned in comparison to what the thead was about. there are so many people changing the whole thing behind the posts by wandering off with paranoid assumptions. why don´t you have a coke and a smile, huh kid. lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikker Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 A fresh started 11.3 save with Juventus. My first season I had 120sh yellow cards and 16 red. Next season I had 50sh yellow and 4 red cards. I didn't change anything but a few players off course (Both seasons I used Melo who is a sure candidate for many cards). Same tactics and same ass man. I didn't check whether the refs where practically the same every match, though. 2½ season in I've just checked the last 15 league matches and it seems to be fairly randomized having the same ref no more than twice... So guess these statistics are not gonna shine much light on the subject (or maybe things are as they should be) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVS_Gooner4life Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I got it too =/, first 10 games in a new season , all had the same referee. At least he isn't easy with the cards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urzzz Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Its pretty random on my save too. Had around 9 different refs in 11 matches in the 2nd season with Basingstoke in the BSP. I see you're playing with an edited database. Maybe there are few refs in the league you're managing in. Forcing the game to reuse the ref? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjm Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Wasn't this always an issue in just the lower leagues? I had the same ref for a few seasons until I got promoted several times, and then it stopped. It definitely didn't used to be due to an edited database, but might it be one of those things that doesn't get fixed in games started prior to the patch (or take a season to iron out)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Doesn't matter... still shows that the ref's aren't being properly randomized. So there will be some team that's always getting the real strict ones. so why would anyone care about it aslong as they didnt get a strict ref all the time ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bababui Posted April 8, 2011 Author Share Posted April 8, 2011 so why would anyone care about it aslong as they didnt get a strict ref all the time ? So there isnt the possibility that they do. And so the game works properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 you may want to renew your specs, buddy. no one but you have even said the word gamebreaking, there is a big difference between pointing out a problem and calling it gamebreaking. why do some of you do this, is it really absolutely necessary that you put words into other peoples mouths?honestly, it´s kind of dumb. why does everything have to be gamebreaking? due to the fact that when a vast majority of people who whine and complain that they have a bad bug, they usually consider it game breaking, i'm just helping out the OP because that is what he was clearly thinking as I said in the post above, why would anyone care about the use of refs, aslong s they didn't cope a card happy red. And it's also clear the OP hasn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 So there isnt the possibility that they do. And so the game works properly. unfortunately the game will never be 100 perfect, its near on impossible for it to be. well if they haven;t got a card happy ref now, they wont in the future, unless they are starting at the bottom and getting promoted all the time. Or how about, changing their tactics so their players aren't agro on the field and don't tackle hard big time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bababui Posted April 8, 2011 Author Share Posted April 8, 2011 due to the fact that when a vast majority of people who whine and complain that they have a bad bug, they usually consider it game breaking, i'm just helping out the OP because that is what he was clearly thinking as I said in the post above, why would anyone care about the use of refs, aslong s they didn't cope a card happy red. And it's also clear the OP hasn't Just got back from happy hour? Where did I say it was game breaking? And, if this bug was in the game 11.0..removed 11.1..why is it back in? And why shouldnt it be taken out again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscotti Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 due to the fact that when a vast majority of people who whine and complain that they have a bad bug, they usually consider it game breaking, i'm just helping out the OP because that is what he was clearly thinking as I said in the post above, why would anyone care about the use of refs, aslong s they didn't cope a card happy red. And it's also clear the OP hasn't Again with the putting words into people's mouths. You might want to try and get that under control As for why it's a problem? Believe it or not there are a lot of people who enjoy the realism in this game, and anything which takes away from that can be seen as a negative factor. Yes, the OP might not have had a card-happy ref on this occasion, but I guarantee you plenty of people with this same problem have done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigmore Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Speaking even from the perspective of a huge, long-time fan of FM, this is one of the most glaring bugs they've had in years, and it is disappointing that SI said they would address it in 11.3 and haven't. Just my 2 pennies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscotti Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Speaking even from the perspective of a huge, long-time fan of FM, this is one of the most glaring bugs they've had in years, and it is disappointing that SI said they would address it in 11.3 and haven't.Just my 2 pennies. They never said they would address it in 11.3, it had already been addressed before 11.3. It just so happens to have reappeared in 11.3 and nobody is entirely sure why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 "It doesn't look right, but it hasn't affected the OP, so it's not a bug." :D:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigmore Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 They never said they would address it in 11.3, it had already been addressed before 11.3. It just so happens to have reappeared in 11.3 and nobody is entirely sure why. Ah ok, my bad. I had 11.1.1 and it existed, and then 11.3... maybe I missed a patch or something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bababui Posted April 10, 2011 Author Share Posted April 10, 2011 Ah ok, my bad. I had 11.1.1 and it existed, and then 11.3... maybe I missed a patch or something It was fixed earlier..I thought in 11.1.1 but maybe it was in 11.2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigmore Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 It was fixed earlier..I thought in 11.1.1 but maybe it was in 11.2. Definitely was still around in 11.1.1 - I had a season of Scott Duncan in the BSS then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 It looks like you're playing with a custom database, and it may just be limitations with that database. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bababui Posted April 10, 2011 Author Share Posted April 10, 2011 It looks like you're playing with a custom database, and it may just be limitations with that database. Nope. Its not a limitation of the DB as the issue was fixed before. And, even if it were, SI developed the game to have edited DB's so one would figure that SI would plan for that contingency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManUTactician247 Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Definitely was still around in 11.1.1 - I had a season of Scott Duncan in the BSS then! OMG, so did I but with Tamworth in the BSN, good thing he wasn't card happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 After I had Scott Duncan for 90% of my matches in my 11.2 save, I thought I'd be sly and solve the problem. I installed 11.3, went into the editor and made Scott Duncan a 16 year old CA 10 player and stuck him in my youth squad where I could keep an eye on him. He's there alright, but now a different ref does 90% of my matches in my new save. Fortunately he's very lenient! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigmore Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I can't emphasise enough how big a bug this is - makes the game genuinely unplayable at times when affected by it. So disappointing that it won't be till FM12 (if they even sort it out for that game!) that I can get a good, realistic lower league journeyman game going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnakai Haaskivi Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 So is there any way to fix this? I'm stuck with Howard Webb at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabulas4 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 yah ive got him and clatenberg the cheats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjm Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 So is there any way to fix this? I'm stuck with Howard Webb at the moment. sort of; you need to get promoted a few times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnakai Haaskivi Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 sort of; you need to get promoted a few times So...if I'm in the Premier League, I'm stuck with Webb forever? Or just until the end of the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazaru5 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I feel for you... honestly being stuck with the worst referee ever to grace the English game must be a nightmare, you have my deepest sympathies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjm Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 So...if I'm in the Premier League, I'm stuck with Webb forever? Or just until the end of the season? As far as I was aware, this issue (previously?) only ever effected lower league teams. I think it was in L2 that I finally started getting different refs. Are you saying you're in the EPL and always get the same ref? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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