crouchaldinho Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 2039 - The All England Version I have conducted the same holiday experiment with a save involving just the English leagues down to Conference South/North, this time on a large database with all current international players in Europe retained. First of all, some information on my speed tests using this setup: Time to complete the 1st season of game time - 44 mins Time taken to get 20 years into the game - 16 hours 57 minutes File size after 20 years - 193,723MB Time it took to holiday 1 season after 20 years (timing through 2029/30) - 54 minutes (around 20% increase on the original timing) Total time taken to get to 30 years - 25 hours 11 minutes Time it took to holiday 1 season after 20 years (timing through 2038/39 - 51 minutes (again it's around 20% increase on the original timing) The two speed tests seem to confirm that you can expect a speed decrease of around 20-30% after 20 - 30 years of game time on your save. This is certainly something to think about when setting up a long-term game. The final file size, after 30 years, was 238,040. So what is this all England save like in the year 2039? It is a world where no one or two sides dominate the Premier League; the title has been won by six different sides in the last ten years. It is a world where money still dominates, as shown by Manchester City's recent success and the fact that Notts County have established themselves in the top flight. Meanwhile, non-League sides have risen from obscurity. Woking play their football in League One with Hednesford Town, while Bromley, Worcester City and Histon are in League Two and they fight it out with Fulham, Blackburn and Stoke in the Football League's basement division. Other sides have fallen from grace, and there are some former Football League clubs who have fallen on hard times, such as Leyton Orient in the Conference South or Scunthorpe United in the Conference North. Perhaps most shocking of all though, is the fall of Wigan Athletic, who are now semi-professional and play their games in the Conference North. It is a world where Joseph Guardiola, one of the most successful managers in English football during the last three decades, has recently retired after 16 years in charge at Old Trafford, where he won 5 league titles and 1 Champions League title. And it is a world where England have won another World Cup, in 2030, the trophy coming under the management of Frank Lampard. Unfortunately (at least for me) it is also a world where St. Albans City have barely managed to do anything remotely interesting for 30 years unless you count getting themselves relegated from the Conference South in season 2038/39. Pictures speak louder than words, so I have linked to some screenshots below. Premier League Winners Current Premier League 2039/40 Current Championship 2039/40 Current League One 2039/40 Current League Two 2039/40 Current Conference National 2039/40 Current Conference North 2039/40 Current Conference South 2039/40 FA Cup Winners League Cup Winners UEFA Champions League Winners UEFA Europa League Winners World Cup Winners European Championship Winners The World Rich List The Rich List England World Rankings World Managers Hall of Fame Steven Gerrard Cesc Fabregas Let me know if there are any other screenshots that you think I should have linked to here. Click here for a compressed version of this save. The file size is around 73MB. I'll also put a link in the opening post. EDIT - Here is an alternative link. Regards, C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka Sangoma Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 What can you tell us about Grimsby after 30 years? did they stay in League 2 the whole time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paggioram Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 How random 2027 premier league winners Sheff Utd! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grecian_03 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Blackburn in League Two... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Blackburn are there just waiting to be rescued by some FMer who wants to take them back up the leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElQuapo Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I'm surprised at how low a "tactics rating" all these players turned top-managers have. Owen, Fabregas and Gerrard - all under 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH14-TW14 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 C hope you can get it uploaded tonight. currently downloading the other one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlnwba86 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Is that Wigan in the Conference North!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcutty Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 My hometown club scunthorpe united not doing to well dropped from the championship to conference north! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Is that Wigan in the Conference North!!!!! I'm not quite sure how I managed to miss that but yes... yes it is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcutty Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Once dowmloaded where do i put the file????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Into your 'games' directory in the FM folder (usually in 'my documents'). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggygreaves Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Any chance you could let me know how Peterborough United are getting on? Thanks fella. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Wigan's history Screenshot showing Wigan as semi-pro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Blackburn Rovers history Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Bromley's history Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Fulham's history Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Hednesford Town's history Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Leyton Orient Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Scunthorpe United's history Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Stoke City's history Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 Worcester City's history Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 Think those are the main ones in terms of rises and falls. Let me know if I have missed any obvious ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 Added an alternative link to the 2039 all England save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryolemon Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 FA Cup Winners I'll bet that Liverpool - Everton final in'16 was epic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan_sacfc Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 St Albans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryzymillzy Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Awesome, Can you post me a Hartlepool United history please? And maybe a where are they now? Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latimerinho Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I always find that these type of threads are so inspiring, that you want to get this far in your own saved game to experience it yourself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zela Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Screen from: Mesut Ozil,Sakho,Vargas,Daniele De Rossi,Giorgio Chiellini ,Cesc en Mandanda/Akinfeev. if it is (end2010)begin 2011 end 2012 if it will be, thanks and a screen in 2012/2013 best team?(worldteam w/e) Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 St Albans I know. I always find that these type of threads are so inspiring, that you want to get this far in your own saved game to experience it yourself Yes, me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezequiel_Lavezzi Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 These threads are fantastic, I dont know what it is about knowing "the future" in someones game. Almost like it were some strange alternate universe where you can become excited at the prospect that whatever team you barrack has a chance to do well in the next 30 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansom Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 How are Pompey doing in your game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 Check out the screenshots in post 301. Pompey are in the Premier League. You can also download the save itself and have a look around. It doesn't take too long to download. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chob Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 What's happening with Leeds Utd on this save? Premiership? anything won? (prob not lol) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevros Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 As big of a drop Wigan's was, if I am correct it is Wolves who have made the biggest drop! I searched through each of the divisions that were posted for a screeny and couldnt find them anywhere. Double checked so I didn't look like a complete fool, but I cannot find them. Maybe you can confirm wtf happened to them Crouchy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockney Hammer Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 How are West Ham getting on ? WHos the manager? And did Noble ever turn into a coach? Can see him doing that when he quits football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poiston Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 You're probably the best man to answer this! Do players climb up the Favoured Personnel / Icon / Legend scale? As in, could a regen appear as Favoured Personnel and then move to Icon? On FM09 everyone got stuck in Favoured Personnel! Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakestone Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 As big of a drop Wigan's was, if I am correct it is Wolves who have made the biggest drop!I searched through each of the divisions that were posted for a screeny and couldnt find them anywhere. Double checked so I didn't look like a complete fool, but I cannot find them. Maybe you can confirm wtf happened to them Crouchy. If you look at the screen shot, the league tables only go down to 23rd place without needing to scroll. So I blieve they are in the Championship or League 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 You're probably the best man to answer this! Do players climb up the Favoured Personnel / Icon / Legend scale? As in, could a regen appear as Favoured Personnel and then move to Icon? On FM09 everyone got stuck in Favoured Personnel! Thanks Michael Owen was a legend at Man City on the Eng/Ita/Spa save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poiston Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Michael Owen was a legend at Man City on the Eng/Ita/Spa save. Was that just as a manager though? Can a player move onto the Favoured Personnel list and then achieve more and move up the ladder so to speak? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 If you look at the screen shot, the league tables only go down to 23rd place without needing to scroll. So I blieve they are in the Championship or League 1. I'm afraid I didn't notice that when making the screenshots. Sorry chaps. The missing teams are: Championship: Wolves League One: Wrexham League Two: York Conference: Weymouth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT-- Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Did you run the leagues on full detail, crouch? (Edit) Just saw the timings per season, so unless you have one hell of a PC, I'm guessing not! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 Was that just as a manager though?Can a player move onto the Favoured Personnel list and then achieve more and move up the ladder so to speak? Yes. Frank Lampard and John Terry became legends at Chelsea. David James became a legend at Portsmouth. Guardiola became a legend at Man Utd (as a manager). Those are a few that I have seen. C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 Did you run the leagues on full detail, crouch?(Edit) Just saw the timings per season, so unless you have one hell of a PC, I'm guessing not! Just left it on the default setting. Would have taken forever on full! C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewalsh Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Did town ever get onto the game? (Halifax) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt4ani Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Could you tell me about Burnley please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poiston Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Yes.Frank Lampard and John Terry became legends at Chelsea. David James became a legend at Portsmouth. Guardiola became a legend at Man Utd (as a manager). Those are a few that I have seen. C. I think the players you said are already legends at the clubs at the start of the game. Have any regend become icons/legends for a club without becoming manager?? Cheers, good job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCisHere Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 woohoo! Worcester City in League 2! That will never happen in real life, so I guess I should enjoy the moment while it lasts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 I think the players you said are already legends at the clubs at the start of the game. No, they were icons, I just double-checked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poiston Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 No, they were icons, I just double-checked. Ah, awesome. Thanks, sorry for not checking first! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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