MrBannystar Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Got sacked from Luton for failing to drop one of my center backs despite my only other available DC getting injured a week after I first dropped him. Ok, so we weren't doing as well in the league, just outside the playoffs in the opening season, but having just won 4 MATCHES IN A ROW, will anyone seriously tell me that this is realistic? He was even playing well and there were no other realistic options available. I've had a fair few fallings out with FM over the past 8 years or so, but this is too much. I don't like to complain but come on, please..... {UPDATE} I replayed the last fixture before I was sacked due to the sheer injustice of this and re-jigged my formation and had an almost unplayable DC instead. Still managed to win 5-2 after dropping the player in question....AND I STILL GET SACKED. What is the bloody point of the hard work and effort when this happens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 It's worth posting that in the bugs forum tbh because it sounds unbelievably harsh (upload the save game obviously) It's also worth cutting out the foul language, I'd hate to add infractions to your pain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBannystar Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 I'm sorry, but it's hard to hide my feelings right now. Swearing was the only way to unleash some frustration without maiming some puppies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 You should take some anger management classes if a computer game gets you this angry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbnrbn Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 have you talked to your board? maybe that'll give you more time, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raniel3 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 To clarify, the board asked you to drop - that is, not make him play - a certain player? Is that a new feature? Never had that before, and why would the board want you to drop a certain player? Or are you talking about the fans being unhappy with a players performance and this leading to the sack (in conjunction with other board happiness factors)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBannystar Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 The player wasn't in the best form and the board requested a meeting about him where they recommended that I drop him (with no mention of fans being unhappy). I was going to drop him anyway so I agreed, but when my only other viable DC got injured (along with an increasing list of injuries) a week later, I was forced to play him and from then on we won 4 on the spin and his form improved. After a 5-2 victory over Alfreton, I was sacked on monday morning for continuing to field the player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontermann Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Now this is a nice new addition to FM! Interering boards when it comes to your tactics/first team players Nice, nice SI! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Has a manager ever been sacked for not dropping a player? Sounds like a poor addition to the game for me, even if it worked properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auqakuh Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 What? If my board demanded I drop a player, I'd be resigning on the spot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Unfortunately the OP doesn't have a save which can be checked so we'll have to wait and see if it ever occurs again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontermann Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Has a manager ever been sacked for not dropping a player? Sounds like a poor addition to the game for me, even if it worked properly. When Beckenbauer was president of Bayern, he used to interfere quite frequently, Trappatoni duly obliged though most of the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domus Clamantium Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 i got sacked at the end of the season for not dropping stuart nelson at gillingham. i had got rid of all other keepers so he was the only choice. or a grey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBannystar Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 What?If my board demanded I drop a player, I'd be resigning on the spot! I felt the same way, a bit cheeky of them I thought. But as I was going to drop him anyway, I saw no harm in complying. But if this kind of thing ever happened, it would normally only happen in the elite leagues with power-crazed chairmen wielding the axe because their football club is their plaything. Not the kind of thing to happen at a lower league club I would've thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Didn't Gullit get sacked for dropping Shearer at Newcastle? Also I think there were issues at Hearts a few years ago where the owner basically picked the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbroncitis Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Didn't Gullit get sacked for dropping Shearer at Newcastle?Also I think there were issues at Hearts a few years ago where the owner basically picked the team. Good old Vladimir Romanov. The Hearts owner that refused to let managers pick teams. Many a manager quit because they were there just to coach the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorer15 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Didn't Gullit get sacked for dropping Shearer at Newcastle?Dropping your best striker and captain is pretty poor form but in Gullits case it couldn't have been more calamitous. He dropped Shearer and Ferguson to the bench and played a lad up front (Paul Robinson) who later played with my brother at amateur level. Not only that but it was the Newcastle v Scumderland match! He also refused to give Rob Lee a squad number for the season so he could have no complaints. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andeeeel Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I was sacked in from my job in Carlisle on my first FM14 save, for failing to drop Reece James, though he wasn't even on the bench for the last 10 or so games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbamania Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 The board asking you to drop a player for performance reasons does not make sense. Much more realistic would be: - you are asked to field a certain player; - you are asked to drop a player for other reasons, disciplinary or (especially) to force them to extend their contract in their final year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tianren Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Hi, just to check, the board requested for the drop or those coach in the backroom requested for the drop? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatto Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 This happened to me quite early in the beta with Sutton United, but worse. Pretty much all of my team had left at the end of the first season and I had to scrap together a team, yet still managed to win the first 4 games and sat at 1st above expectations. Despite this, every single time, the day before my 5th game I would get sacked for not dropping Ian Westlake, I assume because of an oddly timed holiday period interaction with the board about promising his performance would improve. I tried reloading the save many times, and even some earlier saves. Cheesing a good average rating didn't help, not even selling him worked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityAndColour Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Has a manager ever been sacked for not dropping a player? Sounds like a poor addition to the game for me, even if it worked properly. Especially given the ultimatum was probably triggered by player ratings being bugged anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityAndColour Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Didn't Gullit get sacked for dropping Shearer at Newcastle? I think he resigned, but in reality would have been sacked for his performance regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompey1978 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 It's widely believed Gullit dropped Shearer for the derby match because he wanted the club to sack him, reverse constructive-dismissal, if you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Now this is a nice new addition to FM! Interering boards when it comes to your tactics/first team players Nice, nice SI! It's potentially a nice addition, but it needs to be implemented very carefully and it sounds like it wasn't. It would make more sense if it affected the overall confidence as a board promise rather than resulting in an instant sacking - "The board is pleased with your leadership of the team, however they're very disappointed that you continue to field <player> in the starting 11." And it should obviously be negotiable in case of injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric1000 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 It's potentially a nice addition, but it needs to be implemented very carefully and it sounds like it wasn't.It would make more sense if it affected the overall confidence as a board promise rather than resulting in an instant sacking - "The board is pleased with your leadership of the team, however they're very disappointed that you continue to field <player> in the starting 11." And it should obviously be negotiable in case of injuries. Sounds like an awful addition to me. What is the point of playing a football manager game if you are not allowed to manage as you see fit? May as well just stick the thing on holiday and let it get on with it. Fire the manager for bad results etc. but not for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters76 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 You should take some anger management classes if a computer game gets you this angry. LOL. When he starts dating we'll be reading about him in the papers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padders Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I would be gutted if this happened to me in a really long save!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicko Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 LOL!! I got sacked after a board takeover even though I got promoted/spent nowt/had the all board are delighted by your performance message, went beyond all expectations but they wanted their own man, luckily for me while I was unemployed , they offered me my position back which I duly accepted but on my terms! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisLiebing Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Crazy, the board shouldn't be picking the team, this is nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBannystar Posted November 9, 2013 Author Share Posted November 9, 2013 LOL. When he starts dating we'll be reading about him in the papers uhh excuse me, I have enough experience in that field already thank you very much ;-) I'm 26 but don't tell me no one else has ever lost sleep or kicked the cat when having a hard time of it on FM. I never usually lose my temper, but FM seems to bring out the worst in me on the odd occasion. And to clarify the earlier question, this was a board request that the player should be dropped and not a recommendation from backroom staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbroncitis Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Mad sacking of football managers happen every so often in real life. Gareth Southgate was a point of the top of the league when he got sacked and Hearts have a merry go round of managers that have been sacked or left "by mutual consent" for a whole host of obscure reasons, most notably George Burley who put Heatrs at the top of the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Now this is a nice new addition to FM! Interering boards when it comes to your tactics/first team players Nice, nice SI! Agreed. Sounds quality! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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