walker700 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Having read various posts about people wanting to become Chairman and spend money on players etc I had a thought of my own, I think becoming a chairman would not be possible or relevant considering the game is called FOOTBALL manager, however I have got an interesting theory that I hope can be incorporated into the game. I haven't seen this posted anywhere so if it has please forgive me. One of the things that has continually grated me within FM is the fact that you negotiate your contracts with clubs but for what reason? We all try to get more money if we feel we are doing a good job but why? We can't spend it on anything...... I realise that this is may not be everyones cup of tea but I think that there should be some sort of "off the pitch" side to FM. For example, some things to spend your money on. I wouldn't say go mad with the choice of things to buy, just things such as houses and cars etc. There can be serveral "stages" of houses - e.g. when you have just started out and dont have much money, you can only afford a 1 bedroom house in the area you manage and maybe a mini etc. As you move up the managerial ladder, you also move yourself up the property ladder, being able to sell old houses and buy new mansions and apartments in other countries and buying ferrari's or bentleys, this can be incorporated into the media side of things as well - eg if you buy a brand new ferrari whilst your club are languishing in the bottom 3, questions will be asked as to your professionalism etc. Following on from "the off the pitch" side of things, I think there should be a place that players can spend their money, like the houses and cars (the example about buying a ferrari whilst your team are struggling can apply here as well), I think they can also be caught in pubs and clubs night before games etc, you would then have to discipline them as you see fit. I know that this is a whole new thing, however I think that it would enhance the realism of what is already a great game. The main reason I came up with this is the continued frustration that I am working and getting paid well but for no reason really. In essence, you might as well negotiate a lower contract so that the wage bill does not get affected. Please let me have your thoughts. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foruman Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee50_11 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 it has been mentioned a few times and alot of people didn't think it was a very good idea, including me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilSaint Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 have to say the same thing crosses my mind every season when i sign a new contract at my club.. wth does it matter what they pay me.. i think what you're suggesting is a good idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey_g Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Not sure I like it personally. You discredit the chairman idea because the game is called football manager, I'd say the spending personal money is even less football related. I'm just not sure it would add anything to the game to be able to spend money on a ferrari. If you want a car game, buy GT? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker700 Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 Fair play.... Like I said it won't be everyones cup of tea and I fully accept that. Can I just ask why you would be opposed to it? I'm not just being petty because you didnt like my idea, I genuinely would like some constructive criticsm..... I would mainly like it as firstly you get to spend your wages instead of just seeing how much you have made in your career.... but secondly I think it could enhance the media aspect of the game as mentioned in my first post - I mean say AC Milan sacked their manager and you bought an apartment in Milan at around the same time, newspapers would automatically link you to the job (assuming you had the right credentials). Even forgetting the buying of houses, cars etc I think some "off the pitch" activities should be available like learning a new language, this will again link you to jobs in the media but also will guard against not being able to speak a certain language when you first arrive at a club? Thanks for the reply and I know it wont be for everyone but thank you anyway.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM09darlo Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Not a good idea. I agree with petey g...you might as well just go out and buy the sims. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontask Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 no its a football game with many other areas that need improving without putting this useless feature in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie543 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 that would take FM down the Fifa Manager route which is rubish. Wages are in the game to make your job more secure the higher the wages the less likely you are to be sacked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker700 Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 that would take FM down the Fifa Manager route which is rubish. Wages are in the game to make your job more secure the higher the wages the less likely you are to be sacked I didn't know that was the purpose of wages, I had assumed that there would be a reason some where along the line. Thanks for the info..... So is it all "off field" additions that everyone is opposed to or just the ones I have suggested? Say the learning of a new language? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 There are already "off the pitch" features, such as the transfer market and press conferences. This has been discussed to death, and I would be against it as I would prefer the developers spent more time on the football side of things than cosmetic features. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker700 Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 There are already "off the pitch" features, such as the transfer market and press conferences.This has been discussed to death, and I would be against it as I would prefer the developers spent more time on the football side of things than cosmetic features. I agree that there are more important aspects to work on before anything of this nature. I think that it would enhance the media aspect of the game, which in my opinion is rather repetitive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crichton Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Do I sense a FM expansion pack? Football Manager: Real Estate Agent Take your club to the top with tactics while you climb the real estate ladder. ----------------------- Agreed that there needs to be some reason for us players to try and negotiate for more money, but to me, it just sounds like all you really want to do is buy a ferrari, whether it be physical or virtual Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker700 Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 but to me, it just sounds like all you really want to do is buy a ferrari, whether it be physical or virtual Don't we all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 It's very gimmicky. I tried FIFA Manager a couple of years ago, and it just doesn't add anything to the game. You could choose your wife, whether you have kids or not, buy cars and houses but it's so removed from what our job is and what the game is about that it's just not fun. As above, wages are there for job security, but can also work the other way. If your wages are high and you have a long contract, other clubs are less likely to come in for you due to compensation. For me, it doesn't need to be anything more. I think this gets brought up a lot because people don't realise that wages are there for a reason, and because of that it seems pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker700 Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 As above, wages are there for job security, but can also work the other way. If your wages are high and you have a long contract, other clubs are less likely to come in for you due to compensation. For me, it doesn't need to be anything more. I think this gets brought up a lot because people don't realise that wages are there for a reason, and because of that it seems pointless. I for one didn't know what the wages were there for hence pretty much why I created this thread! I have been enlightened and "put in my place" so to speak. Lol. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanksie1975 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 At least i feel better about not getting any other job offers for a while now . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterfan2 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Your own contract is just window dressing on the game. And it's the start of a slippery slope to all those old games that let you set the prices of the pies on the terraces and the scarves in the club shop. These did not make for a realistic football game. For this reason alone, leave it all well alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foruman Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 It dont detest the idea I wouldnt mind it But i honesly dont want Si to be given more work to do when there is so many bugs with the game If they fixed some of the major bugs in the game i would not mind this But only when the game is near bugless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Your own contract is just window dressing on the game. And it's the start of a slippery slope to all those old games that let you set the prices of the pies on the terraces and the scarves in the club shop. These did not make for a realistic football game. For this reason alone, leave it all well alone. Not entirely true. The more you earn/longer your contract then the more secure your job is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 TBF I quite like the learn new languages idea... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmeee17 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 It's very gimmicky. I tried FIFA Manager a couple of years ago, and it just doesn't add anything to the game. You could choose your wife, whether you have kids or not, buy cars and houses but it's so removed from what our job is and what the game is about that it's just not fun.As above, wages are there for job security, but can also work the other way. If your wages are high and you have a long contract, other clubs are less likely to come in for you due to compensation. For me, it doesn't need to be anything more. I think this gets brought up a lot because people don't realise that wages are there for a reason, and because of that it seems pointless. Isn't compensation limited to 1 million? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Isn't compensation limited to 1 million? I didn't think there was a limit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmeee17 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I didn't think there was a limit? When poaching staff, compensation is limited to 1 million. You can try it in your game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I think it is limited to 1m, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker700 Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 I know that alot of people have said that they wouldn't like this due to other bugs being more important to fix and I totally agree. I was just thinking about the wages as I negotiated a new contract with Milan and kinda wanted to spend it on something. I admit that in hindsight it would detract from the game slightly.... I just think there should be some aspects "off the pitch" that can then improve the media side of the game. Eg the language learning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edle Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 no dice. i have thought long and hard about this one as you had a well thought and constructive post. however i feel that in itself it just doesnt add anything to the footballing side of the game. similarly with all the problems associated with football manager at the minute, i think it would be better to fix these rather than spend time on gimmicky features. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Footy Mange is so good because it's sticks to what it does best - football management. If this kind of feature ever comes in then I'll know the game is going downhill and the developers are clutching at straws. Leave this sort of stuff to The Sims. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suttface Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Don't like this idea. Let's just concentrate on the footy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalascione Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 When poaching staff, compensation is limited to 1 million.You can try it in your game. Don't think so. I've seen the AI pay 1.2 million for some of my staff in my Man City save. This may also just be a glitch in my game, but thought it was worth mentioning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
--b-- Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 so if you were being paid a pittance and had a crappy house with cockroaches etc.. could you post on these forums about finding a bug??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis_D Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I don't like this idea at all -sorry walker700 - and if SI ever included it (which I am sure they won't ), I don't think I would want to play FM anymore. I do however like the idea of learning new languages Also, I never knew bigger wages gave you less chance of being sacked - I never looked at it that way. I just always accept whatever they offer me as I want the least added to the wagebill as possible. If I could manage for free I would I will continue to accept the bare minimum anyway, as I am so good I never get the sack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmeee17 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Don't think so. I've seen the AI pay 1.2 million for some of my staff in my Man City save. This may also just be a glitch in my game, but thought it was worth mentioning. It depends on the currency you have chosen. But yes, it is limited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaUlHuNtInGtOnLuFcBoY Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I agree with the learning languages idea. That seems to make sense . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiesenior Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 learning languages is the only useful suggestion you made really. Why on earth would I care what house I live in on FM or what car I drove? It's pointless. Especially if it could have a detrimental effect on my team. That's just ******** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker700 Posted January 13, 2010 Author Share Posted January 13, 2010 learning languages is the only useful suggestion you made really. Why on earth would I care what house I live in on FM or what car I drove? It's pointless. Especially if it could have a detrimental effect on my team. That's just ******** I was using it as an example of something that wages could be spent on... Other than providing job security, there is no literal need for them, they only negatively affect your wage bill!! I admit that the house example was obviously not the best example, i just think the wages should have some other use other than ensuring job security. Even if you can use it to pay for a transfer that you want to make.... e.g. Mark Hughes putting some of his own money in to get Craig Bellamy from West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 When poaching staff, compensation is limited to 1 million.You can try it in your game. Can't say I've ever really noticed it to be fair. I tend not to pay too much compensation anyway. And we don't say poaching... we say creatively recruiting... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLLMEISTER1 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 OP its a Big NO NO for me im afraid. would be turning the game into more like sims, which tbf is absolutly dreadful. its called Football Manager for a reason and that is to manage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
İbrahimoviç Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 good post,everyone should read Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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