FM24 - PC/Laptop advice thread *** PLEASE READ OPENING POST BEFORE POSTING ***

[Spider2266]

Hi kevhampster. My heads fried looking for a laptop budget is 400-600 quid is there anything out there? I’m purely looking to run fm on a laptop and nothing else. 

[Smurf]

6 minutes ago, Spider2266 said:

Hi kevhampster. My heads fried looking for a laptop budget is 400-600 quid is there anything out there? I’m purely looking to run fm on a laptop and nothing else. 

If someone were to lend you £50 - https://www.box.co.uk/30029417-Medion-Crawler-E10_3201865.html

Or this is in the clearance - and it's Grade A (https://www.box.co.uk/grading-explained)

https://www.box.co.uk/FX705DY-AU099T(C)-(Grade-A)-ASUS-TUF-FX705DY-AU099T_3453387.html

 

[Spider2266]

25 minutes ago, Smurf said:

If someone were to lend you £50 - https://www.box.co.uk/30029417-Medion-Crawler-E10_3201865.html

Or this is in the clearance - and it's Grade A (https://www.box.co.uk/grading-explained)

https://www.box.co.uk/FX705DY-AU099T(C)-(Grade-A)-ASUS-TUF-FX705DY-AU099T_3453387.html

 

And what about to the lower end of that budget?

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, Spider2266 said:

And what about to the lower end of that budget?

At the lower end, this is a good deal. 

It's a refurb unit but with 12 months warranty. 

https://www.laptopstation.co.uk/product/laptops/fq0000na/

The one Smurf linked is a good deal though. 

Edited December 2, 2020 by kevhamster

[Spider2266]

What graphics card does that have? Am I blind I can’t see anything

[kevhamster]

45 minutes ago, Spider2266 said:

What graphics card does that have? Am I blind I can’t see anything

It doesn't have a dedicated graphics card.  It uses the integrated graphics for the Ryzen 5 4500U, which'll be good for medium settings on the 3D.

You won't get a dedicated graphics card at the lower end of your budget, unless you're looking at cheap, used ones on the likes of Ebay, which you won't get any warranty with.

[karlmarx9]

20 hours ago, kevhamster said:

In terms of leagues, any computer can run any amount of leagues - it's just that the speed of processing will decrease the more you have loaded up, as there's more results for the games to process, more players to factor in etc.  The thing we can't answer is whether the processing speed is acceptable to you, as that is entirely subjective.  However, what I will say is that the Ryzen 7 4800H is a very strong processor, and so there won't be a great deal that is faster than it.

What would be really helpful is, once you have your laptop, if you could take a little time to run the benchmark tests here and post your times in the thread.  This sort of thing is enormously helpful when it comes to recommending computers for people:

 

Thanks Kev! That makes sense, hopefully I'll be satisfied with the processing speed. I'm receiving it tomorrow and will find time to run the benchmark tests over the weekend.

[heftZEUS]

Hi guys.

Looking to get a laptop for work and playing football manager.

Budget: around 600, could stretch to 700 for a good deal

Uses: Won't be playing anything other than FM as I have a good gaming PC, normally have around 100k players loaded and i'll be sharing saves that save across both. I also work as a personal trainer so ideally nothing that looks too "gamery"

Must Haves: 15 inch screen, long bettery life (don't want to panic if I forget my charger) and lightweight enough that it's still fairly portable

[Smurf]

17 minutes ago, heftZEUS said:

Hi guys.

Looking to get a laptop for work and playing football manager.

Budget: around 600, could stretch to 700 for a good deal

Uses: Won't be playing anything other than FM as I have a good gaming PC, normally have around 100k players loaded and i'll be sharing saves that save across both. I also work as a personal trainer so ideally nothing that looks too "gamery"

Must Haves: 15 inch screen, long bettery life (don't want to panic if I forget my charger) and lightweight enough that it's still fairly portable

Do you want it to print gold coins too?

https://www.box.co.uk/82B50042UK-Lenovo-Legion-5-15_2938438.html

https://www.box.co.uk/30029417-Medion-Crawler-E10_3201865.html

https://www.box.co.uk/FA506IH-BQ027-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-A15-FA506IH-BQ027-(NO-OP_2913034.html

 

On the cheaper lesser side

https://www.box.co.uk/81LK0039UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-L340-15_2934443.html

 

[dupealoop]

gents, 

looking to spend between 600-700. FM will be the main purpose, will run discord and do your typical browsing etc.

looking at this one: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-Laptop-GeForce/dp/B08N5TQD6M/ref=asc_df_B08N5TQD6M/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475692076734&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5435858226660595809&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010810&hvtargid=pla-1039482961176&psc=1

seems decent from what i've read so far, just wanted your 2 cents. thank you.

[ting2004]

Hello,

I haven't bought a new laptop for around 8 years, which is why I play FM Touch on my ipad these days.

However, being impulsive I've decided to buy a laptop the kids can use for homework and obviously the real reason is for me to play games. 

Two options...

https://www.box.co.uk/82B10061UK-Lenovo-Legion-5_3064873.html

Or

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asus-ryzen-9-4900h-16gb-1tb-ssd-geforce-rtx-2060-15.6-inch-windows-10-gamin-fa506iv-hn429t/version.asp

My question are:

Is the upgrade in CPU and Graphics worth an extra £400?

Do you have any other suggestions for around the same prices?

Thanks

[Smurf]

19 minutes ago, dupealoop said:

gents, 

looking to spend between 600-700. FM will be the main purpose, will run discord and do your typical browsing etc.

looking at this one: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-Laptop-GeForce/dp/B08N5TQD6M/ref=asc_df_B08N5TQD6M/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475692076734&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5435858226660595809&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010810&hvtargid=pla-1039482961176&psc=1

seems decent from what i've read so far, just wanted your 2 cents. thank you.

https://www.box.co.uk/82B50042UK-Lenovo-Legion-5-15_2938438.html

https://www.box.co.uk/30029417-Medion-Crawler-E10_3201865.html

https://www.box.co.uk/FA506IH-BQ027-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-A15-FA506IH-BQ027-(NO-OP_2913034.html

 

On the cheaper lesser side

https://www.box.co.uk/81LK0039UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-L340-15_2934443.html

 

[Smurf]

19 minutes ago, ting2004 said:

Hello,

I haven't bought a new laptop for around 8 years, which is why I play FM Touch on my ipad these days.

However, being impulsive I've decided to buy a laptop the kids can use for homework and obviously the real reason is for me to play games. 

Two options...

https://www.box.co.uk/82B10061UK-Lenovo-Legion-5_3064873.html

Or

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asus-ryzen-9-4900h-16gb-1tb-ssd-geforce-rtx-2060-15.6-inch-windows-10-gamin-fa506iv-hn429t/version.asp

My question are:

Is the upgrade in CPU and Graphics worth an extra £400?

Do you have any other suggestions for around the same prices?

Thanks

It is better - up to you if you want to spend the money.

I'd go for it.

 

[Smurf]

26 minutes ago, ting2004 said:

Do you have any other suggestions for around the same prices?

Thanks

Sorry missed this part

Chassis & Display
Nova Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3900 12 Core CPU (3.1GHz-4.3GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair 2400MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060 - 6.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1^st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
 

Price: £1,360.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/nova-15/gmQVpWq0Px/

 

[dupealoop]

39 minutes ago, Smurf said:

https://www.box.co.uk/82B50042UK-Lenovo-Legion-5-15_2938438.html

https://www.box.co.uk/30029417-Medion-Crawler-E10_3201865.html

https://www.box.co.uk/FA506IH-BQ027-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-A15-FA506IH-BQ027-(NO-OP_2913034.html

 

On the cheaper lesser side

https://www.box.co.uk/81LK0039UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-L340-15_2934443.html

 

sorry @Smurf forgot to mention i'm in the states. looked at all 4 of those here, only the "cheaper lesser" looks to be in my range: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-Laptop-GeForce/dp/B08N5TQD6M/ref=asc_df_B08N5TQD6M/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475692076734&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12865388756425872993&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010810&hvtargid=pla-1039482961176&psc=1

doesn't look like the Medion brand is sold here, and the others are over $700. 

 

let me know if you have any other suggestions. thanks!

[SCCP1910]

Hi kev, smurf and everyone. So I've basically given up on buying a laptop and now I'm trying to build a PC for the first time. Is the Ryzen 5 3400G a good processor for FM? (Specifically to run one of these setups without crying out for help after 5 seasons, I know it's subjective but just give me a rough idea)

 

I'm fairly sure the integrated Vega 11 GPU that comes with it would be able to run the ME on 3D and decent settings fairly well, as it apparently can run GTA V on high settings and even The Witcher 3 on low according to some YT videos I found.

 

 

It almost seems to good to be true for the price (saw it for R$1089 or £157 here), so I wanna make sure it can run FM decently, especially the CPU as it doesn't seem like the beefiest one for such a processor-heavy game.

 

If anyone has suggestions on some budget mid-range CPUs and decent GPUs I'd love to hear them. My budget unfortunately is pretty tight, at around £300 max for both. Thanks in advance

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 3, 2020 by SCCP1910

[kevhamster]

34 minutes ago, SCCP1910 said:

Hi kev, smurf and everyone. So I've basically given up on buying a laptop and now I'm trying to build a PC for the first time. Is the Ryzen 5 3400G a good processor for FM? (Specifically to run one of these setups without crying out for help after 5 seasons, I know it's subjective but just give me a rough idea)

 

I'm fairly sure the integrated Vega 11 GPU that comes with it would be able to run the ME on 3D and decent settings fairly well, as it apparently can run GTA V on high settings and even The Witcher 3 on low according to some YT videos I found.

 

 

It almost seems to good to be true for the price (saw it for R$1089 or £157 here), so I wanna make sure it can run FM decently, especially the CPU as it doesn't seem like the beefiest one for such a processor-heavy game.

 

If anyone has suggestions on some budget mid-range CPUs and decent GPUs I'd love to hear them. My budget unfortunately is pretty tight, at around £300 max for both. Thanks in advance

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Assuming you have all the other bits you need (motherboard etc), I'd go for this combo as you'll get a stronger processor performance and a graphics card which will be ample for FM, and is within the £300 budget:

Ryzen 5 2600: https://www.ebuyer.com/830816-amd-ryzen-5-2600-am4-processor-with-wraith-stealth-cooler-yd2600bbafbox

Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti: https://www.ebuyer.com/824756-asus-geforce-cerberus-gtx-1050-ti-oc-edition-4gb-gddr5-graphics-card-cerberus-gtx1050ti-o4g

[SCCP1910]

5 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

Assuming you have all the other bits you need (motherboard etc), I'd go for this combo as you'll get a stronger processor performance and a graphics card which will be ample for FM, and is within the £300 budget:

Ryzen 5 2600: https://www.ebuyer.com/830816-amd-ryzen-5-2600-am4-processor-with-wraith-stealth-cooler-yd2600bbafbox

Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti: https://www.ebuyer.com/824756-asus-geforce-cerberus-gtx-1050-ti-oc-edition-4gb-gddr5-graphics-card-cerberus-gtx1050ti-o4g

I've ordered all the other bits already, just need a CPU and GPU now because I wanted to have the absolute best I could get. The 1050Ti seems very good for FM and is comparatively cheap here so I think I'll go with it. The CPU though, just after I wrote my last comment I found an Intel i5-9400F for £158 (with the GPU it would go slightly over my budget actually, but nothing drastic), which seems quite cheap for a 9th gen processor. I'll check on the user benchmark though and compare with the Ryzens

[kevhamster]

1 minute ago, SCCP1910 said:

I've ordered all the other bits already, just need a CPU and GPU now because I wanted to have the absolute best I could get. The 1050Ti seems very good for FM and is comparatively cheap here so I think I'll go with it. The CPU though, just after I wrote my last comment I found an Intel i5-9400F for £158 (with the GPU it would go slightly over my budget actually, but nothing drastic), which seems quite cheap for a 9th gen processor. I'll check on the user benchmark though and compare with the Ryzens

You'll need to make sure the CPU you're getting is compatible with the motherboard if you've already bought it - if you were looking at an AMD CPU based on the motherboard you had, an Intel CPU won't be compatible.  Which motherboard have you bought?

[SCCP1910]

I can still cancel the order today as I ordered yesterday and it'll only get delivered around Christmas so if I can get a good Intel deal today, I'll do just that. The one I got was the Asus Prime B450M-A for £83

 

 

[kevhamster]

9 minutes ago, SCCP1910 said:

I can still cancel the order today as I ordered yesterday and it'll only get delivered around Christmas so if I can get a good Intel deal today, I'll do just that. The one I got was the Asus Prime B450M-A for £83

 

 

Ok, yes you'll definitely need to cancel that and order a new mobo if you go the Intel route.

[Leon_fogo]

I have a Nvidia Geforce 1650 graphics card with an i5 9 generation and 16 ram computer ... The game has many lags, I see many people with this same problem and running games that demand much more from the machine ... as well as people who play the FM 2021 very well with much lower settings, does it need an optimization? The quality of the machine apparently doesn't add up to anything ....

[kevhamster]

9 minutes ago, Leon_fogo said:

I have a Nvidia Geforce 1650 graphics card with an i5 9 generation and 16 ram computer ... The game has many lags, I see many people with this same problem and running games that demand much more from the machine ... as well as people who play the FM 2021 very well with much lower settings, does it need an optimization? The quality of the machine apparently doesn't add up to anything ....

Are you talking lag during the 3D matches or during the processing between matches?

[Leon_fogo]

4 minutos atrás, kevhamster disse:

Você está falando de lag durante as partidas 3D ou durante o processamento entre as partidas?

Nos dois casos ...
Olha, eu já mudei as configurações do cartão como a Sega me pediu, testei em uma janela, em modo full image ...

Não consigo entender o que pode acontecer, tenho um amigo com a mesma placa que a minha e relata o mesmo problema.

[kevhamster]

Just now, Leon_fogo said:

In both cases ...
Look, I already messed with the board settings like the Sega asked me, I already tested it in a window, in full image mode ...

I can't understand what can happen, I have a friend with the same license plate as mine and reports the same problem.

You haven't specified exactly which processor you have, 9th gen i5 can be one of many but in theory should be fine.

In terms of the graphics, have you checked that the game is using your graphics card as opposed to the CPU's integrated graphics?

[Leon_fogo]

1 minute ago, kevhamster said:

Você não especificou exatamente qual processador possui, o i5 da 9ª geração pode ser um entre muitos, mas em teoria deve servir.

Em termos de gráficos, você verificou se o jogo está usando sua placa de vídeo ao invés dos gráficos integrados da CPU?

Yes, you are using the video card ... even optimized by the last driver I downloaded today. The lags are felt in both the graphic configuration: very high and very low, it seems like an optimization problem. I really don't understand.

[kevhamster]

1 minute ago, Leon_fogo said:

Yes, you are using the video card ... even optimized by the last driver I downloaded today. The lags are felt in both the graphic configuration: very high and very low, it seems like an optimization problem. I really don't understand.

It's hard to say.  I'm getting very smooth performance with my desktop at the highest settings and my Ryzen laptop is managing medium graphics and is mostly smooth with only the occasional frame drop.

I'm not saying you're not having issues, but given many including myself aren't getting those issues suggests it may not be an issue with optimisation.

[Leon_fogo]

 

3 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

É difícil dizer. Estou obtendo um desempenho muito bom com meu desktop nas configurações mais altas e meu laptop Ryzen está gerenciando gráficos médios e na maior parte do tempo está bom com apenas a queda ocasional de quadros.

Não estou dizendo que você não está tendo problemas, mas considerando que muitos, incluindo eu, não estão tendo esses problemas, sugere que pode não ser um problema de otimização.

https://community.sigames.com/forum/802-match-engine-benchmarking-and-performance-early-access-beta-closing-soon/

 

There are several topics that confirm this stuttering problem, I believe that there may be some configuration, some conflict ... Because it doesn't make sense for the computer to have a good configuration, to run games that demand more from the board than FM. Unfortunately I am hoping for a hot fix to fix this, the game is much better than 2020.

[TheBigBoss]

Hey guys so I've decided to get a new laptop ideally I'd like to spend <£400 but I probably could go to £500 is needed I found these two under £400 just wanted to know which one would be better for FM or if any of them are actually ideal 

Appreciate it, Thanks

 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-3-14-laptop-amd-ryzen-3-128-gb-ssd-silver-10209088-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-3-14-laptop-amd-ryzen-3-128-gb-ssd-grey-10207994-pdt.html

 

[kevhamster]

45 minutes ago, TheBigBoss said:

Hey guys so I've decided to get a new laptop ideally I'd like to spend <£400 but I probably could go to £500 is needed I found these two under £400 just wanted to know which one would be better for FM or if any of them are actually ideal 

Appreciate it, Thanks

 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-3-14-laptop-amd-ryzen-3-128-gb-ssd-silver-10209088-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-3-14-laptop-amd-ryzen-3-128-gb-ssd-grey-10207994-pdt.html

 

Neither.  They're both Windows 10 S so you won't be able to install Steam or Epic, and by the time you've upgraded to Windows 10 Standard, you'll have very little storage space left.

If you need to go less than £400, you're not going to get anything I'd call ideal.

The best I can find within the budget is this, which is a refurbished one: https://www.laptopstation.co.uk/product/laptops/eq1516na/

Edited December 4, 2020 by kevhamster

[TheBigBoss]

10 hours ago, kevhamster said:

Neither.  They're both Windows 10 S so you won't be able to install Steam or Epic, and by the time you've upgraded to Windows 10 Standard, you'll have very little storage space left.

If you need to go less than £400, you're not going to get anything I'd call ideal.

The best I can find within the budget is this, which is a refurbished one: https://www.laptopstation.co.uk/product/laptops/eq1516na/

I was actually going to post that exact same one on currys but didn't because it was out of stock. Ok I'll post these 3 more let me know if these are better. Sorry for the inconvenience I'm pretty much a novice when it comes to the technology stuff shocking seeing as I'm only 29 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-3-15-6-laptop-intel-core-i5-1-tb-hdd-red-10203753-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-14-cf2508sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i3-256-gb-ssd-silver-10215345-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-ce3610sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i3-256-gb-ssd-white-10203931-pdt.html

All windows 10 I believe 

 

[kevhamster]

53 minutes ago, TheBigBoss said:

I was actually going to post that exact same one on currys but didn't because it was out of stock. Ok I'll post these 3 more let me know if these are better. Sorry for the inconvenience I'm pretty much a novice when it comes to the technology stuff shocking seeing as I'm only 29 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-3-15-6-laptop-intel-core-i5-1-tb-hdd-red-10203753-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-14-cf2508sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i3-256-gb-ssd-silver-10215345-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-ce3610sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i3-256-gb-ssd-white-10203931-pdt.html

All windows 10 I believe 

 

The only one of those to consider would be this one: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-14-cf2508sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i3-256-gb-ssd-silver-10215345-pdt.html

All the others have a base clock speed below the requirements for FM21 so you may find them throttling and impacting the performance.

That said, I'd still recommend the refurb on I posted more specs wise if you want to play in 3D, as the processor in that one has better integrated graphics.  If you don't play in 3D, there's not much between them. 

[TheBigBoss]

5 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

The only one of those to consider would be this one: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-14-cf2508sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i3-256-gb-ssd-silver-10215345-pdt.html

All the others have a base clock speed below the requirements for FM21 so you may find them throttling and impacting the performance.

That said, I'd still recommend the refurb on I posted more specs wise if you want to play in 3D, as the processor in that one has better integrated graphics.  If you don't play in 3D, there's not much between them. 

Been a massive help mate thanks I'm more of a 2D person and for some reason I've always had reservations about buying refurbished gadgets but I'll definitely consider that one and this one here. At least I know what I'm buying into in terms of FM performance. Thanks

[Bensb93]

I am in a bit of a predicament...

Budget is max £700.

I am edging towards the 4th gen Ryzens as they appear tearing Intel a new one at the moment 

I am an FM fanatic, but I don't generally game much on PC, so I don't need a crazy GPU to support that, but I do require fast processing that's going to last several years. Require it for work and other purposes.

So my predicament is do I go for a Ryzen 5 with a dedicated GPU or do I go for a Ryzen 7 and rely on the standalone graphics. What graphics settings could I expect to run on a Ryzen 7 4700? Most come with 8GB, but would look to upgrade to 16GB immediately.

 

Any thoughts and actual laptop suggestions would be brill thanks.

[kevhamster]

5 hours ago, Bensb93 said:

I am in a bit of a predicament...

Budget is max £700.

I am edging towards the 4th gen Ryzens as they appear tearing Intel a new one at the moment 

I am an FM fanatic, but I don't generally game much on PC, so I don't need a crazy GPU to support that, but I do require fast processing that's going to last several years. Require it for work and other purposes. 

So my predicament is do I go for a Ryzen 5 with a dedicated GPU or do I go for a Ryzen 7 and rely on the standalone graphics. What graphics settings could I expect to run on a Ryzen 7 4700? Most come with 8GB, but would look to upgrade to 16GB immediately.

 

Any thoughts and actual laptop suggestions would be brill thanks.

 

I can't say for sure what graphics settings the onboard graphics 4700U would manage, but my laptop with the Ryzen 5 2500U manages medium settings with a couple of tweaks, and is mostly smooth with the occasional quick stutter, so you can expect that at least.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-4700U-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-4600H/m1105478vsm1110331 suggests there's very little performance difference between the Ryzen 5 4600H and the Ryzen 7 4700U in terms of CPU performance.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html? also scores them quite closely:

So, really it does depend on what else you want to use it for.  Processor wise, the Ryzen 5 4600H edges it, but both seem to be excellent choices.

 

Ryzen 5 model: https://www.box.co.uk/82B50042UK-Lenovo-Legion-5-15_2938438.html

Ryzen 7 model: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-vivobook-m431ia-14-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-512-gb-ssd-silver-10208144-pdt.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=4d7eb93e-055f-499d-8ee5-1cdcc50d67d1&istItemId=iliqwrxpr&istBid=tztx&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~1011 (Shopping Ads) Laptops - Generic Adaptive~1011 (PLA) Windows Laptops And Convertibles ad group~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&kwid=GOOGLE&device=c&ds_kids=92700059137077155&tgtid=1011 (Shopping Ads) Laptops - Generic Adaptive&&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2af-BRDzARIsAIVQUOeuy1scQV5LsAQNn0acDzFzo5BqpXne6d_jngfACTrhzNa5VAK9OvEaAgtvEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Edited December 4, 2020 by kevhamster

[Bensb93]

1 hour ago, kevhamster said:

I can't say for sure what graphics settings the onboard graphics 4700U would manage, but my laptop with the Ryzen 5 2500U manages medium settings with a couple of tweaks, and is mostly smooth with the occasional quick stutter, so you can expect that at least.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-4700U-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-4600H/m1105478vsm1110331 suggests there's very little performance difference between the Ryzen 5 4600H and the Ryzen 7 4700U in terms of CPU performance.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html? also scores them quite closely:

So, really it does depend on what else you want to use it for.  Processor wise, the Ryzen 5 4600H edges it, but both seem to be excellent choices.

 

Ryzen 5 model: https://www.box.co.uk/82B50042UK-Lenovo-Legion-5-15_2938438.html

Ryzen 7 model: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-vivobook-m431ia-14-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-512-gb-ssd-silver-10208144-pdt.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=4d7eb93e-055f-499d-8ee5-1cdcc50d67d1&istItemId=iliqwrxpr&istBid=tztx&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~1011 (Shopping Ads) Laptops - Generic Adaptive~1011 (PLA) Windows Laptops And Convertibles ad group~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&kwid=GOOGLE&device=c&ds_kids=92700059137077155&tgtid=1011 (Shopping Ads) Laptops - Generic Adaptive&&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2af-BRDzARIsAIVQUOeuy1scQV5LsAQNn0acDzFzo5BqpXne6d_jngfACTrhzNa5VAK9OvEaAgtvEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Thanks much appreciated! Your quite right, very little difference between the two. I imagine having a dedicated GPU would free up memory, so even more of a reason to go for a Ryzen 5 with GPU.

[kevhamster]

Just now, Bensb93 said:

Thanks much appreciated! Your quite right, very little difference between the two. I imagine having a dedicated GPU would free up memory, so even more of a reason to go for a Ryzen 5 with GPU.

That would be my personal choice, but you can get extra storage for the same price with the Ryzen 7, so that may be more of a priority for what you need.

[Ryank11]

Well men, sorry to bother ye again. 

https://www.box.co.uk/1E6Z9EAABU-HP-14s-fq0000na_2956544.html 

Ye recommended this but it’s out of stock everywhere atm. Is there anything else similar around 600 can stretch to 7 max? Based in Ireland. No need for graphics and play large database with 10+ Playable leagues computer will be mainly used for fm and very rarely Netflix maybe. Thanks again 

[kevhamster]

11 hours ago, Ryank11 said:

Well men, sorry to bother ye again. 

https://www.box.co.uk/1E6Z9EAABU-HP-14s-fq0000na_2956544.html 

Ye recommended this but it’s out of stock everywhere atm. Is there anything else similar around 600 can stretch to 7 max? Based in Ireland. No need for graphics and play large database with 10+ Playable leagues computer will be mainly used for fm and very rarely Netflix maybe. Thanks again 

https://www.box.co.uk/M413IA-EB573T-ASUS-Vivobook-14-M413IA-EB573T_2955297.html

[Yer Maw]

Looking for a replacement to my now broken laptop.

Currently play around 12 leagues from 6 nations on a large DB and that usually shows at 2.5 stars. Have been using 2D classic match engine in FM21 but would be happy to use the 3D engine as well.

Only other use of the laptop is normal web browsing/work emails etc. And occasionally YouTube/football streaming.

budget would be £400-500 although is a little bit flexible I.e 50ish pounds more.

any help would be appreciated.

 

 

[Spider2266]

On 02/12/2020 at 17:25, Smurf said:

If someone were to lend you £50 - https://www.box.co.uk/30029417-Medion-Crawler-E10_3201865.html

Or this is in the clearance - and it's Grade A (https://www.box.co.uk/grading-explained)

https://www.box.co.uk/FX705DY-AU099T(C)-(Grade-A)-ASUS-TUF-FX705DY-AU099T_3453387.html

 

So it’s between these two what would u go with? Cheers

[Smurf]

2 hours ago, Spider2266 said:

So it’s between these two what would u go with? Cheers

either.

[Spider2266]

53 minutes ago, Smurf said:

either.

Ok perfect thank u so much

[Smurf]

8 hours ago, Spider2266 said:

Ok perfect thank u so much

Thinking it over personally I would go with the more expensive brand new one. But both are very good and would be grand for FM.

 

[ellismason93]

Was tempted by this:

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/6829498

Just wondered if there's any red flags. I know it's not the best laptop in the world but I only want it for FM and only play with a couple of nations, usually in 2D.

Any advice or alternatives will be appreciated.

[Smurf]

1 hour ago, ellismason93 said:

Was tempted by this:

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/6829498

Just wondered if there's any red flags. I know it's not the best laptop in the world but I only want it for FM and only play with a couple of nations, usually in 2D.

Any advice or alternatives will be appreciated.

Not good. Below minimum spec of the game.

[ellismason93]

7 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Not good. Below minimum spec of the game.

Ah, well I really don't know what I'm looking for.

Saw 8g RAM and quad core and thought it would be reet haha. Oh well

[kevhamster]

30 minutes ago, ellismason93 said:

Ah, well I really don't know what I'm looking for.

Saw 8g RAM and quad core and thought it would be reet haha. Oh well

Best thing to do would be to let us know your budget. That way we can look to try find something suitable that is affordable for you. 

[kevhamster]

17 hours ago, Yer Maw said:

Looking for a replacement to my now broken laptop.

Currently play around 12 leagues from 6 nations on a large DB and that usually shows at 2.5 stars. Have been using 2D classic match engine in FM21 but would be happy to use the 3D engine as well.

Only other use of the laptop is normal web browsing/work emails etc. And occasionally YouTube/football streaming.

budget would be £400-500 although is a little bit flexible I.e 50ish pounds more.

any help would be appreciated.

 

 

Best I can currently find is this:

https://www.box.co.uk/AVITA-LIBER-NS14A8UKV542-MB-Avita-Liber-V-14_3355367.html

[ellismason93]

Right cool.

Budget is 300-400.

Only looking to play a few nations really. Always played 2d 

Will only be used for FM and general browsing