[FM20] Irchester Utd. Tier 10. England. Home. Youth Only.

[Jimbokav1971]

I pressed "Attend meeting" and got a blank screen. 

[Pompeyboyz]

Obviously nothing to talk about 

[Jimbokav1971]

I can go back to the previous page, but when I press the "Attend meeting" button I'm getting nothing. 

[Jimbokav1971]

1 minute ago, Pompeyboyz said:

Obviously nothing to talk about 

Yeah, but the thing is I can't progress past this day. 

[Jimbokav1971]

The options left to me are.....

1. Refuse to attend, (I don't think that will go well).
2. Holiday and hope that the Ass Man saves my bacon. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Just now, Jimbokav1971 said:

The options left to me are.....

1. Refuse to attend, (I don't think that will go well).
2. Holiday and hope that the Ass Man saves my bacon. 

Well Option #1 doesn't look too attractive. 

[Pompeyboyz]

I would say that you have had a successful first season in the Conference National.  Just outside the playoffs and your goals for and against are not too bad  all things considered.

I have to say that I love the depth and detail you go into on your saves and posts on here....for a data analyst like myself, this is all fascinating stuff and the sort of stuff I would get lost in if I put this much effort into the game as you do 

Which brings me to my next point though.....are you maybe over thinking some things at this stage with the players you get and maybe relax the roles etc until you get to the League 2 and Pro status where you might get better training facilities and can better focus on the minutae of trying to get those players to adapt more as you would prefer?

I think you would agree that the poor training facilities are whats hampering you right now to really push big and you might need to scale back your asperations on a player to player level till you are in a more favourable position. 

[Pompeyboyz]

1 minute ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Well Option #1 doesn't look too attractive. 

How far back is the last save date before this?

 

[Jimbokav1971]

1 minute ago, Pompeyboyz said:

How far back is the last save date before this?

 

2 months. 

[Pompeyboyz]

4 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

2 months. 

Dang

[Jimbokav1971]

It's ok. I have a cunning plan......

I have chosen Option #2 and I have gone on holiday. 

The Ass Man has done everything else in this save so he might as well do the negotiating with the board stuff too. 

• We're still in control of the club. 
• We are actually very secure in our position. 
• Although it's now saying that we failed the "Repair the Financial damage" target. (Which seems mighty harsh when we are under the budget they gave us. 
• We're still £0.5M overdrawn at the bank. 
• The loans are still the same. 
• I'm guessing that the Ass Man sweet-talked them. (Can I see his conversation history I wonder? No. I can only see my conversations with him obviously). 

• I've got nothing related to this in my conversation history. 
• The Boardroom conversation on there is at another club. 

• I think we might just be ok......

[Jimbokav1971]

Season Summary. May 2038. 

Conference North Table. I'm really happy with our 1st season in Conference National. We've lost players, but on my terms and I'm pretty sure that we would have made the Playoffs if we hadn't sold our best striker.

FA Cup.

FA Trophy. 

FA Youth Cup. 

 

Goal-scoring keepers. Missing 6 penalties from 13 attempted is appalling. Luckily (33e) Lee Ward (NIR) (Bal) * managed to redeem himself my smashing home 5 direct free-kicks, but I know for a fact these penalties cost us points and we can't be giving points away like that. 

Overall Best XI. 

Awards.

Squad by Appearances. Continuing on the fitness discussion regarding (37b) Júnior (POR) F.Det *, I think we have to put it down to missing pre-season, (and not just any pre-season, but the 1st pre-season in a pro career). Many players played more than him and this is sorted by starting appearances and doesn't include sub appearances which are additional. Added to which, (37c) Komba (TAN) * made 6 appearances for Tanzania this season on top of his 33(3) appearances. Poor (34d) Ritchie-Smith (Bal) * was flogged to death this season, (on purpose), and he made 36(11) appearances, which is usually too many in my eyes, but he's 2 now and I was really trying to force his development a little. Next season he will be out 1st choice midfielder and whether he plays left or right will be dependant on who he is partnered with. 

 

Discipline. I really loving the ill-discipline side of things at the moment. It is bringing me some much needed light-relief.

This is really interesting. (30c) Abdullahi (NGA) is a product of our Academy and has topped the whole of the National League for yellow cards without be noticing until now. My initial reaction is that I have to sign him for next season, but the reality is that I know that he's not good enough to get in our side and if I were to sign him then he would just never play. 

He's weak physically and that's why he would never get in our side. Brilliant to see him performing regularly at this level and also that his PPM's are working so well for him. (That reminds me. I really have to count how many players at the club have the "dives into tackles PPM" sometime. It's going to be ridiculous!) 

Finances. I think the graph shows that we are moving in the right direction. That's all I can do. Stay under budget, keep working on the deals and slowly bur surely bring the money in.

Facilities. When we start to get a little cash, I can't wait to start upgrading the Training and Youth Facilities. 

Transfers. 2 big outs this season, but I'm happy with both deals. 

I haven't been showing you players that have been released on a free, but obviously there are loads. 

Tracker. Usually I just post the tracker in here and don't discuss it much, but I think there are a few points that deserve to be raised. 

• Getting to Conference National is an achievement in itself. I know @Makoto Nakamuraand others romp through the leagues with carefree abandon, but I have never really been a serial winner, so this is pretty decent for me, especially with a Youth Only save. 
• The estimated value is going up and down like a yo-yo and I'm not sure what we can make of it really. Certainly loan debt plays a part, but also player valuations still at the club also have an impact. If we are selling players and getting not much but future clauses from the deals, (which are obviously not counted in Est. value, then I think it skews things somewhat. 
• Reputation is building nicely. I know that turning Pro usually happens in this league or when you get promoted to League 2. I think it used to be a bank balance & reputation trigger and you needed to hit both, but I "think" it's calculated differently now and I would expect to be able to turn Pro without having £5M in the bank. 
• Our facilities haven't changed in a long time and I'm not even asking while we are financially troubled. I also haven't asked to go on a course in years. When we get our 1st big payout I must remember to ask.
• The salary that I have been using is actually the projected salary for next season, so I'm not sure how significant it is because it's largely based on what we are actually spending right now. 
• We are a long way away from someone becoming the new league goal-scorer at the club. (29m) Robbie Nash (F.Pro) has scored the most of those currently at the club, (with 115), but I'm not sure how much football he's likely to play. The next highest is (32c) Declan Barry (IRL) *, (with 37), and then you are getting into the GK's I think.
• The record league appearances record being pushed again and again by (27i) Steph Lewis (WAL) (NIR) is going to be hard to beat.  
• The jump in average attendances was much needed and it's good to get over that 1k barrier. 
• What a season it was for bookings and yellow cards! 162/7 is a new record and the lads can be really proud. 
• (28i) Milos Jirasek (CZE) seems to be on a mission and has collected 18 yellows and 1 red on his won. (I really want to get a player to 20 yellows in 1 season). Pretty sure I have never seen it done. 

Records. 

Edited July 29, 2020 by Jimbokav1971

[wesl]

1 hour ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

 

I like how it says "completed 6 years ahead of schedule" too.

Edited July 29, 2020 by wesl

[Jimbokav1971]

58 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said:

I would say that you have had a successful first season in the Conference National.  Just outside the playoffs and your goals for and against are not too bad  all things considered.

I have to say that I love the depth and detail you go into on your saves and posts on here....for a data analyst like myself, this is all fascinating stuff and the sort of stuff I would get lost in if I put this much effort into the game as you do 

Which brings me to my next point though.....are you maybe over thinking some things at this stage with the players you get and maybe relax the roles etc until you get to the League 2 and Pro status where you might get better training facilities and can better focus on the minutae of trying to get those players to adapt more as you would prefer?

I think you would agree that the poor training facilities are whats hampering you right now to really push big and you might need to scale back your asperations on a player to player level till you are in a more favourable position. 

I agree it was a good 1st season. 

With regards to my ramblings.....  you're completely right. The detail I go into isn't really a chore and I don't do it the whole time. I'm out of work at the moment so have a lot of spare time on my hands. When I do my long posts I generally just blurt out what's on my mind and often come to my own conclusions as I'm writing. 

I have opted to relax the roles a little. (37c) Komba (TAN) * for example is being played as a DLF(s) in the SCL slot. I've kept the other roles the same, but are ,aking a few modifications here and there as I notice things. (I have a decent young full back who is a decent crosser but very slow, so I am teaching him the "cross early" PPM and have also instructed him to cross from deep as an individual instruction. 

I can't wait to get the training facilities upgraded. 

[Jimbokav1971]

11 minutes ago, wesl said:

I like how it says "completed 6 years ahead of schedule" too.

Yeah, they teased me with that and then tried to sack me! 

[Jimbokav1971]

This is good. This is VERY good.  Jul 2038. 

I regularly check on clauses that we can sell and during pre-season I thought I would see what we've got available. 

We've got 2 clauses to sell. 

I've sort of decided that I'm going to accept anything over £100k, but not sure about £80k so let's have a look and make a decision. 

He's just been relegated from League 1 to League 2, but he has the potential to play in the Championship. Hull are currently interested in buying him and they are predicted to finish 2nd in League 1, so if he went there then it's likely that his stock would rise, but after AFC Wimbledon getting relegated it's likely that they would be able to get him on the cheap. He's valued at £42,000 but has a minimum fee release clause of £1.1M Because AFCW don't want to sell, there is no info on how much he might cost. He's contracted for 2 more years so would likely stay for 1 year at least. At this stage I think it sensible that I accept the £80k offer. 

This is the 2nd clause available to sell. 

£3.84 foooorking million! 

What on Earth! 

This is (37b) Júnior (POR) F.Det *. This is the kid that was too knackered to play for most of last season. 

Done. Signed sealed and delivered. Offer accepted. Confirmed. Agreed. Sold. Done. 

[RoguPL]

WOW. almost 4 Miil ! that's huge !! That will keep you going for number of years

Don't forget to do qualifications lol

[_Ben_]

24 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

That's massive! Can you draw any conclusions about why it's so much greater than other sell on fees?

I can't wait to see how carefully you spend this money though, too.

[Jimbokav1971]

12 minutes ago, rrozek93 said:

WOW. almost 4 Miil ! that's huge !! That will keep you going for number of years

Don't forget to do qualifications lol

Have asked about the course. Declined. 

Have asked about extending Youth Recruitment. Declined. 

Have asked about Youth Facilities. 

Have asked about Training Facilities. 

 

[Jimbokav1971]

11 minutes ago, _Ben_ said:

That's massive! Can you draw any conclusions about why it's so much greater than other sell on fees?

I can't wait to see how carefully you spend this money though, too.

I honestly don't know. It could be that the player is just much better, (in terms of PA), but it could also just be because he's gone to a Premier League club. We will see what the scout report says when it gets done. 

How will I spend the money? Facilities facilities facilities. 

[Pompeyboyz]

You know he is going to end up going to a Money bags team for £30-£50m now don't you 

[Jimbokav1971]

1 minute ago, Pompeyboyz said:

You know he is going to end up going to a Money bags team for £30-£50m now don't you 

That would be my guess too. 

It doesn't matter though because he has provided the springboard we needed. He's more than done his job. 

[wesl]

Any chance of turning pro with this money?

[Jimbokav1971]

2 hours ago, wesl said:

I like how it says "completed 6 years ahead of schedule" too.

The whole thing was strange to be honest. 

Really strange. I'm glad the financial issues are done for a while because I thought I was getting sacked earlier. 

[Jimbokav1971]

2 minutes ago, wesl said:

Any chance of turning pro with this money?

Possibly. 

These are the sides in Conference National right now. 

Altrincham. Semi-Pro. (This is their 1st season at this level).
Barnet. Pro. (This is their 8th season at this level). 
Billericay. Semi-Pro. (This is their 3rd season at this level).
Darlington. Semi-Pro. (This is their 6th season at this level).
FC Utd. Pro. (They have just dropped down from League 2). 
Gillingham. Pro. (They dropped down from League 2 last season). 
Harrogate. Pro. (This is their 16th season at this level). 
Hartlepool. Pro. (This is their 4th season at this level). 
Irchester. 
Kidderminster. Pro. (This is their 5th season at this level).
Kingstonian. Semi-Pro. (This is their 2nd season at this level). 
Maidstone. Semi-Pro. (This is their 1st season back at this level). 
Newport Co. Pro. Although they recently spent 2 seasons in Conference South, they were previously a League 1/2 side for 2 decades).
Oxford City. Semi-Pro. (This is their 1st season at this level).
Port Vale. Semi-Pro. (This is their 1st season back at this level). 
Rochdale. Pro. (They have just dropped down from League 2). 
Salford City. Pro. (This is their 1st season back at this level but they spent about a decade in League 1 or League 2). 
Sollihull Morrs. Pro. (They have just dropped down from League 2).
South Shields. Pro. (This is their 15th season at this level).
Sutton. Pro. (This is their 5th season at this level).
Walsall. Pro. (This is their 4th season at this level but they have previously spent decades in League 2 and League 1). 
Woking. Pro. (They have just dropped down from League 2).
Worthing. Semi-Pro. (This is their 11th season at this level).
Yeovil. Pro. (This is their 4th season at this level after dropping down from League 2).

Darlington, (6 seasons) and Worthing, (11 seasons), have been playing at this level for a while now without turning Pro. There doesn't seem to be something set in stone about time. 

Darlington finishes. 13, 17, 17, 8, 14, 9.
Worthing finishes. 9, 11, 14, 20, 20, 12, 3, 16, 15, 12, 20. 

I'll let you make of that what you will. 

[darren1983]

5 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Houston, we have a problem. May 2038. 

They are very disappointed that we have done what? 

Repair the damage is something they have to do remember. I just have to stay within budgets, (which they have increased from £3,900 pw to £4,500 pw by the way. 

Uh ok. This looks serious. 

I guess I had better attend then. 

is this me going to get sacked for them either not doing their job or doing it too well? 

 

It's a known issue. One of the guys in the youth only challenge had the same issue and reported it here

[Jimbokav1971]

Transfer. Aug 2038. 

This is brilliant, don't get me wrong, but I'm starting to become concerned that all is not as expected under the hood in this database.

1st we had the plethora of foreign Nationalities and 2nd Nationalities coming through the Youth Intake. 

Then we had the issue with me being blamed for the board not fixing the financial situation at the club, (and not being able to attend the meeting).

Now we have had £3.8M from a sell-on clause for 1 player, but also have produced some VERY good players. 

We have already produced 4 players that are valued at £1M+, and I suggest that there are more already produced. 

(35a) Liriano (NED)(DOM)Pro * is going to be good. 

(37b) Júnior (POR) F.Det * is surely going to be good after that payout. 

I don't know. Maybe I'm just a bit of a masochist in that I like the hard struggle, but it just seems a little off to me. I know we have done really well with the facilities early on, but maybe that's where the issue is. 

[Jimbokav1971]

1st fine of the season. Aug 2038.

[nie jem frytek]

Maybe check Youth Rating of England in IGE? I had a save where after about 15 seasons I got really suspicious about quality of newgens and then discovered  that Youth Rating of nation I was managing in was significantly buffed in the editor file I was using to get lower leagues. It pretty much killed the save for me.

[Jimbokav1971]

10 hours ago, nie jem frytek said:

Maybe check Youth Rating of England in IGE? I had a save where after about 15 seasons I got really suspicious about quality of newgens and then discovered  that Youth Rating of nation I was managing in was significantly buffed in the editor file I was using to get lower leagues. It pretty much killed the save for me.

You know that's a really good suggestion. 

My own thought, (it has been on my mind), is that I should look for other English clubs who have at least Junior Coaching (20 Exceptional) and Youth Recruitment (12 Adequate). I would then check to see what level of players they have produced. I know that results would be skewed because the chances are their Training and Youth Facilities would likely be higher, (together with their reputation), but it would give me an idea at least. 

This is us. 

So I'm looking for a club that has 20 Junior Coaching and at least 12 Youth Recruitment. 

Youth Rating is 120, (which I think is right). 

Now let's look for clubs with these facilities, (but remember I'm only looking for clubs with these facilities and I'm ignoring other facilities). 

Championship. 

Watford. 

Nottm Forest. 

Brentford still don't have an intake. (-1/-1)

Middlesbrough. 

Ok. So Middlesbrough are better than ours. Now let's check CA/PA of player in recent intakes. (We will work backwards from last season because we don't know how long their facilities have been at this level). 

I might need some help with what the CA/PA transfers into in terms of a player to see if it what I have been getting is realistic. Hopefully it will be obvious.

2037/38. I know it's really hard to judge this looking at PA when we don't always look at PA's but I would suggest that 167 is a VERY good player and should be expecting to play in a top European club competing for major honours and will obviously be an important International player even for a big Nation. I'm not really sure what 89 CA equates to. Of the lesser players, I would expect 132, 129 & 120 to still be Premier League players. Do you lot agree with that? When I get to older intakes I will be able to compare CA with playing level and that should tell us. 

CA 75 PA 132
CA 89 PA 167
CA 46 PA 112
CA 45 PA 65
CA 49 PA 70
CA 79 PA 120
CA 72 PA 107
CA 57 PA 129
CA 52 PA 76
CA 58 PA 113

2036/37. What I should mention that I haven't done already, (just in case some are confused), is that the CA values I'm listing are the CA values at this current moment. They are not the CA at the time the player came through the Academy. There is no out and out star in this intake, but there are still 127, 127, 126, 122, 120 & 114 PA players. Maybe that's not going to be good enough for a Premier League career. Championship maybe? 

CA 82 PA 114
CA 60 PA 80
CA 92 PA 127
CA 40 PA 51
CA 45 PA 61
CA 98 PA 120
CA 96 PA 127 Has already been sold to C.Palace for £3.5M.
CA 99 PA 126 
CA 69 PA 122
CA 53 PA 76

2035/36. These are just starting to make senior breakthroughs. 174 will be top class if he can reach PA. 121 CA is starting to play in Championship. I would expect 174, 151 & 150 to all have very good Premier League careers. 

CA 96 PA 174
CA 64 PA 110. Released on a free and signed by League 1 Cardiff. I can't see personality but both Amb & Det are 3, (so dreaded Unambitious L.Det).
CA 75 PA 94
CA 121 PA 150 Has started 3 of the 3 league games in Championship this season. Capped at ENG U19 level. 
CA 44 PA 55 Released and currently a free agent.
CA 66 PA 85 
CA 124 PA 151 Signed by Villa in 1st full season for £5.5M yet to make a senior appearance. Capped at ENG U19 level.
CA 109 PA 123 Currently on loan in Scottish Championship. 

2034/35. This wasn't a great intake for Boro, but with 136, 126, 121, 116 & 112 PA players they should still be able to generate some nice profit. 

Retired
CA 67 PA 92 Released and playing in League 2. 
CA 96 PA 126 Mr and Mrs Duncan named their lad.... Duncan.  Duncan Duncan is capped 15 times by SCO U21's & was out on loan in League 2 last season. 
CA 127 PA 136 Valued at £5.25M has started 3 of 4 Championship games this season. 
CA 72 PA 112 Released and now playing in Conference North. 
CA 121 PA 121 Valued at £2.4M Has made a few Championship appearances over the last 2 seasons. 
CA 102 PA 116 Signed by Arsenal in season 2 for £3.8M. Not made his senior debut yet.
Retired

2033/34.

CA 129 PA 129 Valued at £11M Boro were in Premier League until this season and he made 56 PL appearances before relegation.
CA 98 PA 110 
CA 79 PA 114
CA 63 PA 91 Released and now playing in League 2.
CA 85 PA 95
CA 114 PA 130 Made 7 PL appearances last season and 5/5 Championship appearances this season
CA 115 PA 132 Signed by Wolves for £12.75M last season. Wolves were also relegated last season.
Retired
CA 87 PA 122

2032/33.

Retired
Retired
CA 125 PA 126 Valued at £5M, Has made 11 Premier League appearances & full season on loan in League 1. Not starting for Boro. 22 SWE Caps.
CA 135 PA 143 Valued at £13.5M 95 career league appearances at League 1, Championship & Premier League. 
CA 90 PA 112 Released. Now playing in League 2. 
CA 102 PA 121 Valued at £1.5M 1 PL appearance and 1 PL goal.
CA 46 PA 53
CA 123 PA 123 Valued at £10.25M 81 PL appearances 
CA 80 PA 93 Released. Now playing in Conference National.
CA 73 PA 81 Released. Now playing in League Conference National.

2031/32. Really rubbish intake. 

CA 65 PA 82 Released. Now playing in Conference South.
CA 65 PA 76 Released. Now playing in Conference North. 
CA 81 PA 95 Released. Now playing at home in NOR
Retired
CA 93 PA 105 Released. Signed by Wigan in Championship
Retired
Retired
CA 77 PA 86 Released. Now playing in Cnoference North.
Released
CA 77 PA 91 Released. Now playing at home in DR Congo.

2030/31.

CA 86 PA 86 Released. Now playing at home in Ireland.
CA 66 PA 84 Released. Now playing in Conference South.
Retired
Retired
Retired
CA 81 PA 96 Released. Now playing in lower leagues. 
CA 114 PA 135 Bought Norwich £475k, Southampton £2.2M and then Crewe £3.3M
CA 126 PA 133 Bought by Bristol City for £16.5M 134 career appearances 36 in PL.

2029/30.

CA 83 PA 94 Released. Now playing in League 1 in Scotland.
Retired
CA 118 PA 139 MAR international with 24 caps. Bought by FC Dallas for £875k. Now worth £2.2M
Retired
Retired
CA 86 PA 104 Released. Now playing in League 2.
CA 94 PA 114 Released. Now playing in Scottish Premiership.
Released
CA 103 PA 109 Signed by Plymouth for £140k then released. Now a free agent. 

The last few intakes don't seem as good so I'm going to go through and cherry-pick the best. 

2028/29 CA 129 PA 130 Valued at £28M regular in Premier League. 
2027/28 CA  174 PA 174 Signed for Barca for £77M Has been a regular ever since. 74 caps and 60 goals for ESP at 27 years old. 171 career goals and counting.
2026/27 CA 134 PA 136 Signed for Valencia for £8M Now valued at £25M 54 Caps for N.Ireland.
2026/27 CA 111 PA 129 Currently valued at £7.5M. Regular starter in Championship.
2026/27 CA 116 PA 136 Sold for £2.1M £4.9M & £1.9M. Regular starter in Championship.
2025/26 CA 123 PA 130 Sold for £2.2M & £4.4M. Currently valued at £8M. Regular in Championship.
2025/26 CA 134 PA 139 Sold for £5.75M £10.5M £28M & £27M. Currently worth £33.5M Regular in Premier League. 
2024/25 CA 150 PA 165 Poached from Sheff Wed, Signed on a free by Sheff Utd in 2028 & then sold for £35.5M in 2029  Regular in PL.
2024/25 CA 127 PA 133 Sold for £7.75M £3.8M & £3M Now valued at £11.5M in Championship
2023/24 CA 114 PA 127 Sold for £135k £3.3M £7.5M & £3.3M  Currently worth £5.75M in Championship
2022/23 CA 111 PA 141 Sold for £3.3M £16.75M & £825k Regular in both Premier League and Championship over the years.
2020/21 CA 169 PA 178 Sold for £45.5M & £230M to Man City.  84 England Caps and won just about everything. 

In summary, Boro have produced a lot of good players, but so they should.

Let's have a look at when they have invested in their facilities. 

I'm not sure that downgrades appear on here. With that in mind, (and remember that we are only looking at Junior Coaching and Youth recruitment, (which actually I'm not 100% sure appear on here either)....

Let's have a look at ours. 

No. They are not included. So we have to just go with what we know. 

My gut reaction, (and everyone should feel free to disagree with me here), is that while the SI boffins tell us that the clubs facilities, (Junior Coaching, Youth Recruitment, Youth Facilities and Training Facilities), are all equally responsible for the quality of youth players generated, this tiny experiment would suggest that actually it's what we have always thought it to be. 

Junior Coaching = CA
Youth Recruitment = PA

Yes there might be some cross-over between the 2, (and I would expect that to be the case because I don't expect it to be simple), but I think that's it in a nutshell. If I can find a club in England with the opposite facilities, (so really good Training and Youth Facilities and really bad Junior Coaching and Youth Recruitment, I would expect them to have significantly poorer intakes despite the info that is provided by SI, (and I have no wish to start an argument or call anyone's previous comments into question). I'm just telling you what I think rather than what I know. (There is a big difference). 

If anything this has sort of reassured me a little that things might be working ok actually, and it's more strategy, (and circumstances), that have benefited me. 

Would love some other thoughts, (and yes I completely understand that this sample size is absolutely tiny. Minuscule even. 

Edited July 30, 2020 by Jimbokav1971

[Jimbokav1971]

I'm trying to find a club that has very good facilities but very poor Youth Recruitment and Junior Coaching. We all know about the Brentford strategy and Wycombe have followed suit, but I can't use these 2 because they have absolutely 0 youth intake. The levels are a minus figure. 

Preston have this which is the closest I can find. 

These are our facilities remember. 

What I think I'm going to do is change the Preston facilities to the following. These are the same values as our own, but in a different order. The problem here is that Preston will try and upgrade both the Junior Coaching and Youth Recruitment, so what I will do is keep an eye on them and manually edit it down if and when it gets increased. The money involved should be minimal and more than offset by the increase in their facilities. The problem that might arise is that the upkeep for the Facilities causes them financial issues, but I don't want to muck about too much under the hood so we will see how that goes. 

I will then look at the Preston intakes as I did with Boro, and with all things being equal, they should produce players that are similar to ours. (Just for the record, I expect this NOT to be the case). 

[Jimbokav1971]

This isn't quite right either. Aug 2038.

Our & was 0% when the last lot of money came in, (so we still have a transfer budget of £0 and that's fine), but it should be 55% now, (until we sell £2M worth of players), and then it should drop to 30%. Right? 

Wrong. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Jul & Aug 2038. 

Pre-season. The DoF arranged these friendlies. C.Palace and FGR friendlies were arranges as a result of players being sold to them and generated £52k and £14k respectively. The Spurs U23 he arranged without help and this generated £46k. That's decent going in Conference National.

Conference National. Not a great start, but not awful either. 2 clean sheets in 1 month is a little unusual for us. I thought that when I sold (37c) Komba (TAN) * I hadn't managed to get him back in on loan, (but I'm about to go back over the thread to see if I can find a screenshot). There was a loan clause inserted, (well done me). I must have just forgotten.

Transfers. I don't remember (31h) Brett Byard (Res) 6'6" at all.

[scousevasey]

2 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

This isn't quite right either. Aug 2038.

Our & was 0% when the last lot of money came in, (so we still have a transfer budget of £0 and that's fine), but it should be 55% now, (until we sell £2M worth of players), and then it should drop to 30%. Right? 

Wrong. 

Is it linked to the date you claimed the fee from the sell-on clause buyout?

 

The bottom line of the news item reads 'This will change to 30% when £2m has been received from player sales this season'.

I think the key bit is the this season part, because scrolling back up the clause buyout was in July.  As the season usually ticks over at the end of June, then this would count as the same season, meaning that you have hit the income clause before the increase, negating the benefits of the 55%.

Bit of a shady move by the board, as it makes it look better than what they actually offer, but if for example the big influx of cash had come from winning the FA Cup (with the income being prize money), then it would have triggered the increase - because it is to do with the club's financial position - and you would still be at 55% of revenue

[Jimbokav1971]

Sep 2038. 

Conference National. We're in a bit of a transitional period at the moment. In recent years we have just been concentrating on winning and getting promoted, and last season was all about avoiding relegation, (despite where we finished). Now though we know that we are not going to go down, but that we're also probably not good enough to go up. (That being said, if we go on a run or end up in the Playoffs then I won't be complaining). Instead of success on the pitch, this period is about developing our younger players and with that in mind I will not always be playing our strongest side. (37c) Komba (TAN) * is obviously our best player, but he is on INT duty with Tanzania a fair bit and this will allow me to play younger players. Rather than play the likes of 26 yo (29m) Robbie Nash (F.Pro), I will instead be playing a youngster who is not up to it as yet, but who should with any luck significantly pass the current level of (29m) Robbie Nash (F.Pro). I particularly like doing this in tough away games. Field a weakened under-strength PA based team, get beaten, but with the game either side with a full-strength fresh line-up. 

[Jimbokav1971]

2nd fine of the season. Oct 2038. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Oct 2038. 

Conference National. Things are ticking along nicely and I'm really pleased. We have 1 game in hand, (2 on the leaders Sutton), and I'm still rotating the squad to develop the youngsters. I don't think we are capable of winning this league even if I went strong in every game, but it would be nice to finish in the Playoffs. 

Cup games. We usually don't put too much focus on the Cups, but I'm starting to change that and would like to win a few games. 

[Jimbokav1971]

New Records. Nov 2038.

[Pompeyboyz]

Just now, Jimbokav1971 said:

New Records. Nov 2038.

I was about to say that putting effort in to the FA Cup is financially worth it

[Jimbokav1971]

39 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said:

I was about to say that putting effort in to the FA Cup is financially worth it

Well it is, but with a Youth Only save you are always looking for opportunities to give more youngsters a senior opportunity. 

The financial side of Cup runs is great, but the reality is that I expect the bulk of our income for the next decade or so to come from player sales and add-ons, so player development needs to be more of a priority than Cup runs. 

That being said, a Cup game is the potential for another game with is the potential for more player development, so it's very much a double-edged sword. 

It's nice not to have to keep looking and worrying about the finances for a while though.

[Jimbokav1971]

2 hours ago, Pompeyboyz said:

I was about to say that putting effort in to the FA Cup is financially worth it

 

1 hour ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Well it is, but with a Youth Only save you are always looking for opportunities to give more youngsters a senior opportunity. 

The financial side of Cup runs is great, but the reality is that I expect the bulk of our income for the next decade or so to come from player sales and add-ons, so player development needs to be more of a priority than Cup runs. 

That being said, a Cup game is the potential for another game with is the potential for more player development, so it's very much a double-edged sword. 

It's nice not to have to keep looking and worrying about the finances for a while though.

On the other hand..... 

[Jimbokav1971]

Nov 2038. 

Conference National. We're doing brilliantly in the league. The Port Vale game is a perfect example of how this season is going. We had 9 games this month so the players were fatigued just 3 days after the Cup win against Newport Co. With Port Vale flying high I fielded a squad completely based on PA and included 3 full debuts and 13 teenagers in the match squad of 16. I wasn't even trying to get a result. I had basically forfeited the match and God only knows how we came out with a draw. That match was perhaps a bit extreme, but is very much the tone of the save at the moment. 

Cup games. It's nice to get a little Cup run for a change. We've already made some cash and set some records and have been drawn at home to West Ham in the 4th Round so expect some more records win, lose or draw. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Job Offer #26. Dec 2038.

This is the 3rd time that Boston Utd have offered me the job. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Youth Intake preview. Dec 2038. 

I really want a striker. Just a plain old-fashioned striker who does not much else other than put the ball in the net. Quick would be good but just someone who can score. 

A striker! Please please please let him be good. 

Even the game things our Youth Intakes should be rubbish. 

[Jimbokav1971]

3rd fine of the season. Dec 2038. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Dec 2038. 

Conference National. 

Cup games. Really pleased with how things are going in the Cup competitions this season. Lots of opportunities for youngsters to play in either these games, (or the games either side of these). More games = more development, especially when I rotate the squad often. 

Goals. 

I'm focusing on (37c) Komba (TAN) * and (32c) Declan Barry (IRL) * here, but I have gone down the list to include (32e) Big Craig (F.Det) 6'6" * just because he is an ex player. Our 2 strikers are doing really well to both be at the top of the list, but the column I want you to look at is Apps (appearances). 24, 14(2), 18(5), 24, 20, 25, 24(1), 19, 22(3), 10, 11(6), 24(1).

I think what this shows is that, (in the main), we are playing our strikers less than other teams, (although if you go down to Josh Sawyer in 10th place, he is scoring at a goal per game and only playing occasionally). Joshua Chambers might top the charts with 17 goals, but he has played 24 appearances to score these goals. In contrast, (37c) Komba (TAN) * has 2 goals fewer but has only made 14(2) appearances. I think our players are benefiting by playing fewer games and being fresher. That being said, I think that our players are rarely subbed off when they start a game, so they invariably play the full 90 because our Ass Man doesn't rate the competition, and when they start on the bench, they often come on at Half-time, because they are so much better than their starting team-mates. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Transfer budget. Jan 2039. 

With our improved financial position I have been waiting for them to give me some cash to spend, but for whatever reason it just hasn't happened so I went cap in hand and asked. 

I was expecting maybe £50k-£100k and that would have been brilliant. 

[turnip]

In terms of CA, I'd say anything below 130 is probably too low to do well in the Premier League (with exceptions for players with very specialised attribute distributions, of course). In my save, I got 8 seasons of very solid performances, including in the Champions League, from a DC with CA of 128. 

At the start of the game a player with CA of 89 would be decent a Vanarama National player, although the lower you go down the pyramid, the more you can get away with players with CA lower than the average for the division.

[Jimbokav1971]

Job Offer #27. Jan 2039. 

[Jimbokav1971]

7 minutes ago, turnip said:

In terms of CA, I'd say anything below 130 is probably too low to do well in the Premier League (with exceptions for players with very specialised attribute distributions, of course). In my save, I got 8 seasons of very solid performances, including in the Champions League, from a DC with CA of 128. 

At the start of the game a player with CA of 89 would be decent a Vanarama National player, although the lower you go down the pyramid, the more you can get away with players with CA lower than the average for the division.

Thanks very much. 

I was struggling to work out what CA level was what before I did the Boro research.