McMaster#28 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 1.Pinhas Zahavi (FLA) has failed to co-operate fully with the Inquiry. There was an initial failure to disclose his involvement in a number of transfers but, more seriously, he has failed to provide the Inquiry with complete bank statements due to the confidential nature of them. There has also been a lack of responsiveness by Zahavi. There remain questions relating to his relationship with and payments to Barry Silkman (LA) and Barry Silkman’s failure to initially disclose his involvement in all the transactions in which he received fees. The Clubs, Club officials and players listed below all co-operated fully with the Inquiry and provided full documentation (including bank statements where requested). There is no evidence of any irregular payments to Club officials or players and they are identified here only as a consequence of the outstanding issues the Inquiry has with the agents identified. iv)Didier Drogba(to Chelsea FC) v)Petr Cech(to Chelsea FC) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncerboy13 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Sweep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 In the transfer of Michael Essien (to Chelsea FC), again there is no evidence to suggest any irregular payments to Club officials or the player, who all co-operated fully with the Inquiry providing full access to documentation (including bank statements) as requested. However, questions remain unanswered as to the relationship between Francis Martin (buying Club agent), Mike Morris, Fabien Piveteau (player’s advisor) and Thomas Belsoeur (FLA). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrus Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 So bascially we've done nothing wrong but the agents have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 From what I understand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted June 15, 2007 SI Staff Share Posted June 15, 2007 Sheva 80% certain to leave, I have just read from some headlines? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 I think Milan are saying they are 80% sure of getting him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieDay Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 My master league team would miss him for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benoit2 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Originally posted by Reddiablo:Sheva 80% certain to leave, I have just read from some headlines? Thats what Berlusconi says. To be fair, doesnt he talk from his ass a whole lot? Admittedly, last year, all of a sudden he came out saying Sheva told him he wants to go to England. Shortly after that things got into overdrive. I prefer Sheva to stay though. Would stil be interesting nonetheless to see who would be his replacement. Bets are on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted June 15, 2007 SI Staff Share Posted June 15, 2007 according to Silvio Berlusconi, there's an 80% chance he'll return to Milan next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieDay Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 I don't expect him to improve at all, just think it'll be more of the same. Should let him go if there's interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted June 15, 2007 SI Staff Share Posted June 15, 2007 he's simply one of those players that doesn't handle English football too well but is a star anywhere else (eg. Forlan, Kanoute) I do think Sheva could be a lot better though, I've seen him perform so bad that you'd think he's a completely different player. Just because he wasn't in a good form and that he really really wanted to show that he's still a good player. Mentally things weren't too great. I remember him giving passes that don't even belong in the conference... that's form of the day for a player of his calibre though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion318 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 West ham to big for SWP again? over biding their 18M€ from january acording to some press And if Sheva does go who do we go get? Tevez? Malouda closer to coming? according to the press L'pool dropped out of the race cause he was too expensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go-Go Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Don't think Svevchenko will leave, might be wishful thinking though - I would just love it if he peformed next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helarxe Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 A maior revelação do futebol brasileiro no ano passado deixará o paÃs. De acordo com Renato MaurÃcio Prado, colunista do jornal "O Globo", o Chelsea, da Inglaterra, pagará 25 milhões de euros (cerca de R$ 64 milhões) para levar Alexandre Pato, do Internacional.Desse total, 17 milhões de euros (R$ 43,6 milhões) irão para o clube e o restante para o jovem jogador. Em menos de um ano como profissional, Pato, de apenas 17 anos, conquistou dois tÃtulos internacionais pelo Colorado, marcando gols importantes: o Mundial de Clubes no Japão, no fim do ano passado, e a Recopa Sul-Americana, na semana passada. Além disso, ele foi campeão sul-americano sub-20 com a seleção brasileira, que defenderá no Mundial da categoria a ser disputado no Canadá, a partir do dia 30 deste mês. If it's true Chelsea got The Duck, it will be a shame. He could use a couple more seasons here before moving to Europe. Good move by Chelsea anyway, if it happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
almos Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Hi, I do have a question to you chelsea fans. Is there any real good reason for the change from the succesful 433 formation to the not as successful 442 formation , other than the dubious signing of shevchenko? Are there any tactical reasons maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrus Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Originally posted by Helarxe:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">A maior revelação do futebol brasileiro no ano passado deixará o paÃs. De acordo com Renato MaurÃcio Prado, colunista do jornal "O Globo", o Chelsea, da Inglaterra, pagará 25 milhões de euros (cerca de R$ 64 milhões) para levar Alexandre Pato, do Internacional. Desse total, 17 milhões de euros (R$ 43,6 milhões) irão para o clube e o restante para o jovem jogador. Em menos de um ano como profissional, Pato, de apenas 17 anos, conquistou dois tÃtulos internacionais pelo Colorado, marcando gols importantes: o Mundial de Clubes no Japão, no fim do ano passado, e a Recopa Sul-Americana, na semana passada. Além disso, ele foi campeão sul-americano sub-20 com a seleção brasileira, que defenderá no Mundial da categoria a ser disputado no Canadá, a partir do dia 30 deste mês. If it's true Chelsea got The Duck, it will be a shame. He could use a couple more seasons here before moving to Europe. Good move by Chelsea anyway, if it happens. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Would help if it was in English, not all of us are fluent in Portuguese? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrus Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Originally posted by almos:Hi, I do have a question to you chelsea fans. Is there any real good reason for the change from the succesful 433 formation to the not as successful 442 formation , other than the <STRIKE>dubious</STRIKE> signing of <STRIKE>shevchenko</STRIKE> ballack ? Are there any tactical reasons maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick OGS20 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 basically says a columnist for Brazilian paper O Globo has said that Chelsea have offered €25 for Alexandre Pato of Internacional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
almos Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Originally posted by Walrus:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by almos: Hi, I do have a question to you chelsea fans. Is there any real good reason for the change from the succesful 433 formation to the not as successful 442 formation , other than the <STRIKE>dubious</STRIKE> signings of shevchenko and ballack ? Are there any tactical reasons maybe? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go-Go Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Originally posted by Nick OGS20:basically says a columnist for Brazilian paper O Globo has said that Chelsea have offered €25 for Alexandre Pato of Internacional. Cheers - you know anything about him? Would you expect him to come to us straight away or spend a couple of years at PSV or something (like Alex)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted June 15, 2007 SI Staff Share Posted June 15, 2007 The big revelation in Brazilian football according to Renato Mauricio Pardo, journalist of O Globo, Alexandre Pato (Internacional) could be off to Chelsea for 25 million EURO he scored important goals in Colorado and uhmm stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helarxe Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 The fastest rising star of Brazilian football from last season will leave the country. According to Renato MaurÃcio Prado, from "O Globo" newspaper, Chelsea will pay 25 million Euro (about R$ 64 million) to buy Alexandre Pato, from Internacional.17 million euro of this tally will go to the club and the rest to the player. In less than one year as a professional footballer, Pato, age 17, won two international titles for Internacional, scoring important goals: the Club World Cup, in the end of 2006, and the South American Supercup, last week. He was also under-20 south american champion with the Brazilian national team, with whom Pato will be playing the U-20 World Cup played in Canada, starting in the 30th of this motnh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helarxe Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 I should mention Prado is somewhat well regarded as quite accurate with his transfer news, although nobody expected such transfer so soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrus Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 As long as McKay or Zahavi are nowhere near it, sounds good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Pato at Chelsea! I might cum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helarxe Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 If he does move then FM is wrong as you can't buy under 18's from Brazil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratinho Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 The day Nicolas Millian arrives on these shores I fully expect Fran to implode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 I can only dream of the day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benoit2 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Originally posted by Go-Go:Cheers - you know anything about him? Would you expect him to come to us straight away or spend a couple of years at PSV or something (like Alex)? Spending €25M on a player and then farming him off to PSV. Somehow I doubt that.. So what where Chelsea thinking? If Man U can pay huge amounts for Anderson/Nani, we'll just do the same with Pato? At least it shows ambition, eh Drogba? So this kid will receive €8M at the age of 17? He's done quite well then I'd say Lets hope he's worth is. If he is, I'll get very excited. I'll wait for that first though. Did it last year with Sheva and that turned out wrong. (still hope he comes good though this season) Besides, Pato isnt exactly on the same level as Sheva, so we should probably give him a few years. But still, €25M? Young players get more expensive by the year. Man U with Anderson and Nani, last year Agüero for €23M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion318 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 would he get a WP on the special players thing? Or he would get a regular one for his youth apps? What position does he play in? Striker? Or is he the winger we need? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Striker. He wouldn't a WP automatically.. maybe on appeal though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Originally posted by Walrus:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by almos: Hi, I do have a question to you chelsea fans. Is there any real good reason for the change from the succesful 433 formation to the not as successful 442 formation , other than the <STRIKE>dubious</STRIKE> signing of <STRIKE>shevchenko</STRIKE> ballack ? Are there any tactical reasons maybe? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Still banging the omgz Ballack is the worst signing ever drum. Congratulations, I don't know how you can live with being so wrong for so long though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Didn't read down to that Pato news. Really not overly excited about it tbh. I suppose we do have 3 old strikers but meh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 The Times who are not that bad with transfer speculation have also said PSV have asked to loan Slobodan Rajković for this season from you. I think one thing we can take is that even if he doesn't go to PSV, Rajković is a Chelsea player now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Originally posted by poyplemonkeys:Didn't read down to that Pato news. Really not overly excited about it tbh. I suppose we do have 3 old strikers but meh. Did score a rather fffb Zola style flick towards the end of that youtube link which was nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrus Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Originally posted by poyplemonkeys:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Walrus: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by almos: Hi, I do have a question to you chelsea fans. Is there any real good reason for the change from the succesful 433 formation to the not as successful 442 formation , other than the <STRIKE>dubious</STRIKE> signing of <STRIKE>shevchenko</STRIKE> ballack ? Are there any tactical reasons maybe? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Still banging the omgz Ballack is the worst signing ever drum. Congratulations, I don't know how you can live with being so wrong for so long though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Re-read popyles and stop being a knobhead. I've deliberately crossed out the dubious bit. The reason we changed formations without question is Ballack. I'm not saying he's rubbish. Now get off the high horse about him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion318 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Originally posted by Francis Cole:I think one thing we can take is that even if he doesn't go to PSV, Rajković is a Chelsea player now. Yeah though we just had first option on him but we must have him now if there is talk of the loan to PSV. Is it hard to loan in England? i mean the Dutch league isn't exactly the best place for Defenders to learn since from the scores they really can't defend although he would get CL action if he can become a regular. Shame he hasn't been playing on the euro champs i would like to have seen him..he should get some time on the next game since they're already qualified. Also in other news Arnesen apparently turned down a chance to go to valencia to earn more than at the Bridge link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRandomGuy Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Also in other news Arnesen apparently turned down a chance to go to valencia to earn more than at the Bridge link fo Arnesen. Can anyone fill me in on what he's done for us, apart from **** off Mourinho? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Is it hard to loan in England it hard to loan in England? i mean the Dutch league isn't exactly the best place for Defenders to learn since from the scores they really can't defend The loans Chelsea have done so far to PSV seem to be more for getting a WP than for the best experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Originally posted by Benoit2:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Go-Go: Cheers - you know anything about him? Would you expect him to come to us straight away or spend a couple of years at PSV or something (like Alex)? Spending €25M on a player and then farming him off to PSV. Somehow I doubt that.. So what where Chelsea thinking? If Man U can pay huge amounts for Anderson/Nani, we'll just do the same with Pato? At least it shows ambition, eh Drogba? So this kid will receive €8M at the age of 17? He's done quite well then I'd say Lets hope he's worth is. If he is, I'll get very excited. I'll wait for that first though. Did it last year with Sheva and that turned out wrong. (still hope he comes good though this season) Besides, Pato isnt exactly on the same level as Sheva, so we should probably give him a few years. But still, €25M? Young players get more expensive by the year. Man U with Anderson and Nani, last year Agüero for €23M. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> €25M for Pato is pretty fair IMO, as he is our most promising player at the moment, and Chelsea can pay that much. He is Inter's top goalscorer this year, by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Originally posted by Francis Cole:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Is it hard to loan in England it hard to loan in England? i mean the Dutch league isn't exactly the best place for Defenders to learn since from the scores they really can't defend The loans Chelsea have done so far to PSV seem to be more for getting a WP than for the best experience. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Yeah, we're not adverse to sending players out on loan in the UK for sure if it's going to benefit them. Both Mancienne and Sinclair were on loan in the UK, because they didn't need work permits, and probably weren't good enough for PSV tbf. PMLF, tell me more about this Pato guy. All I've watched is that one video, shows a lot of mad skills which I doubt he'd get away with in the premiership, some good finishing, some fantastic heading, and a dive. That a good summation of his career so far? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Besides what you said, he is pacy and he can take free kicks. His ball control is great too. He is very skilful, etc... On the other hand, he lacks stamina (he is often substituted in the 2nd half for this reason) and he is still skinny for the EPL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 He's only 17 though right. I guess beefiness would come with age. Still think that in general South Americans haven't faired as well in England as they could. The ones that have that stick in my mind are players like Gilberto Silva who aren't your typical flair filled Brazilians. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 oh and the fitness coach Rui Faria ifffffb anyway \o/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Originally posted by poyplemonkeys:He's only 17 though right. I guess beefiness would come with age. Still think that in general South Americans haven't faired as well in England as they could. The ones that have that stick in my mind are players like Gilberto Silva who aren't your typical flair filled Brazilians. Yes, he is still 17 and he is surely going to become stronger and with better stamina. He is already stronger this year than he was in 2006. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoham Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Tribal football says Charlton want Sahar on loan. Since its tribal football its made and he's probably not even allowed to go out on loan this season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Read that in a newspaper earlier, can't remember which one. Didn't trust they'd done any research whatsoever into it as the called him Ben Saha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted June 15, 2007 Author Administrators Share Posted June 15, 2007 well it sort of puts some sense to something I wondered for a while, I saw Pardew at our last reserve game of the season, Sahar scored. Not sure who he was after and whilst the link is tenuous, it's possible. Some comments from Steve Clarke at the end of last season suggested Sahar's development towards the end of the year stagnated as he got tired, he played at five levels last season, to be expected, but maybe won't be a part of the senior squad initially. Charlton's possible, I'd actually love to see him go there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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