dave byrd Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 This is Ryan Lopez Peralta, the best midfielder in the world. He has been a first team member for my Oxford side since the age of 14. He has played 455 times for Oxford and has 40 winners medals including 11 premier leagues and 6 champions leagues. He now wants to leave and is in the last year of his contract. I've offered him the bigest contract i could, £235,000 per week and £12m signing on fee and he still rejected it. I'm gutted as he is one of the best players i've ever had on any FM. Guess i'll have to cash in on him now or he will leave on a free at the end of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bracken Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Unlucky mate, he looks fantastic. How long has he been unhappy for? Do you need the money from his sale? If you don't, and he hasn't been unhappy too long, I'd wait it out and see if he becomes happier again and you can convince him to stay. Shame he wants to go, is it just the old "needs a new challenge" thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 No don't need the money, he has been saying he 'wants a new challenge' for the last year or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the blue ferret Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Has happened to me before. With a left back. He would not sign a new contract no matter what. He left on a free to Valencia. I resigned him 6 months later for 30 million, which hurt, but was worth it for nostalgia even though he was 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 It's happened to me with almost every player i've ever had at Oxford on my FM10 save. Is this just an FM10 thing? I tend to get promising youngsters then play them for a long as possible and rarely buy anyone over the age of 24 so maybe thats why i see it more? I've lost count of the times my ass man tells me a player wants a new challenge. What i want to know is: is this realistic? We are the best side in the world by far so any move away from Oxford is a downstep. One of two players over the years wanting a move away fair enough, but every single player after they've been with us after 5/6 years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_numbers Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Nah, it's not every player. I do think it's disproportionately high, but I've had similar players who have taken the club to heart and never left. I even tried to sell one of them about 4 times across a 20 year career, and he still didn't want to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Its unfortunate mate. If he does end up leaving, I hope you make a ton off of him and find a somewhat suitable replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 No, for me it really is almost every player. Like i say i'm still on FM10 so not sure if it's any better on FM11. The player i posted in the opening post is a typical example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_numbers Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Like i say i'm still on FM10 so not sure if it's any better on FM11. That's what I've gone back to. Not had anywhere near the same problems on FM11. I've noticed I've never had a regularly playing GK say he wants to leave though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 Thats another isuue with FM10. World class keepers leaving their clubs at the end of their contracts. For Oxford i've never had to pay for a keeper in 23 seasons as almost every year you can sign a top class international keeper who is out of contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_numbers Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Haha. I've spent £65m across my 3 main career goalkeepers, and Akinfeev was the only cheap one at £5m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiescfc2009 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 This is Ryan Lopez Peralta, the best midfielder in the world. He has been a first team member for my Oxford side since the age of 14. He has played 455 times for Oxford and has 40 winners medals including 11 premier leagues and 6 champions leagues. He now wants to leave and is in the last year of his contract. I've offered him the bigest contract i could, £235,000 per week and £12m signing on fee and he still rejected it.I'm gutted as he is one of the best players i've ever had on any FM. Guess i'll have to cash in on him now or he will leave on a free at the end of the season that sucks mate how much did he go for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 He hasn't yet. I'm at the start of the season, his contract doesn't expire till 30th June next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnriqueZove Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Another FMRTE guy I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snootyjim Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Why? What an odd thing to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiescfc2009 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Another FMRTE guy I think yep he's right can't find him on the database Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurkingwithintent Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Because he's a regen... ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiescfc2009 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Because he's a regen... ? ok right I withdraw my suspicions now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Happens to at least 3 of my first team players a season - but it'll never happen to someone who has your club on their favoured list. I'm dreading the day my keeper hands in his request - he's scored over 50 goals for me in the last 7 seasons I've always got a youth player ready to take the place of a departing star so my team is never in trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 Another FMRTE guy I think Ha ha, you clearly failed to notice the game date on the screen shot is 2032 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 Happens to at least 3 of my first team players a season - but it'll never happen to someone who has your club on their favoured list.I'm dreading the day my keeper hands in his request - he's scored over 50 goals for me in the last 7 seasons I've always got a youth player ready to take the place of a departing star so my team is never in trouble. Yeah you are right, despite all the years and silverware, Oxford are not listed as his favourite club. Like you i will never be in trouble when the stars want to leave, it's just a bit sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 'Tis gut-wrenching - really feel for ya fella. Not the same scenario at all, but Steven Gerrard would have done a runner like that if Dalglish hadn't sailed over the horizon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfare Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I say - let him go. Even if he gives up on the idea of leaving for a while, it'll come back, eventually. Keeping him against his will will only destroy morale amongs the team. Besides, probably if you dig deep enough you'll find a player with skills similar to his or better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 Well i've decided against cashing in on him, i'm just going to carry on and see what happens at the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Thats what i would do, keep him as long as possible and hope he comes around, i do remember that being an issue with FM10, it used to bug the hell out of me, its much easier in FM11 to convince them to stay, i have around 3 players a season say they want to move on, but always talk them around, although none are because of the new challenge idea yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunmann Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 send him out on loan for a season. it happened to me with one of my regens. i sent to barcelona on loan and i won the league and champs league so he wanted to stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 send him out on loan for a season. it happened to me with one of my regens. i sent to barcelona on loan and i won the league and champs league so he wanted to stay. As i said though in my opening post he has 40 winners medals including 11 premier leagues and 6 champions leagues playing for me. My Oxford side have won the Premier Leauge 13 years in a row so it's not about me proving to him we are a good side. Just seems that on FM10 as milnerpoint said, most players 'want a new challenge' if they have been with you for a number of years. Must be counted as a bug and a very annoying one at that. I can list at least 10-15 world class players this has happened with too on my Oxford save over that i have had to flog as they just wouldn't renew their contracts. Here's just one of them: I had a dutch international midfielder who i signed at the age of 17. He went on to be described as a 'world class midfielder' winning everything with Oxford and became established as one of Hollands best players. At the age of 28 with a year left on his contract he 'wanted a new challenge'. I had to sell him or risk losing him for nothing. Where did he go for this new challenge? Man U! Now bear in mind on my game Man U are not the force they once were. When he signed for them they had not won the league for 16 years or the Champions League for almost 20 years! He also signed a contract on much less wages than i had offered him to stay. He could at least have gone abroad as the chances of his new team beating us are zero. This story is just typical of my Oxford FM10 save and the player i posted in the first post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox78 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 what sort of stadium have you got dave? i am doing a game with bath so i hope i can emulate your success with oxford. but i am concerned i wont get a decent stadium Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 There is very little you can do but hope he changes his mind, but the problem is, even if he does the likely hood of it happening the next season is high. I would prob start looking for a replacement now by that time there must be a regen of similar ability you could snap up, especially if your rep has risen that much. Best of luck!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunmann Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 As i said though in my opening post he has 40 winners medals including 11 premier leagues and 6 champions leagues playing for me. My Oxford side have won the Premier Leauge 13 years in a row so it's not about me proving to him we are a good side. Just seems that on FM10 as milnerpoint said, most players 'want a new challenge' if they have been with you for a number of years. Must be counted as a bug and a very annoying one at that.I can list at least 10-15 world class players this has happened with too on my Oxford save over that i have had to flog as they just wouldn't renew their contracts. i was in the same boat, all be it i wasnt as successful at the time. but my player realised if he moved he wasnt going to win anything cos my Everton team was winning it all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 what sort of stadium have you got dave? i am doing a game with bath so i hope i can emulate your success with oxford. but i am concerned i wont get a decent stadium 65, 000 all seater. Took till 2026 to get it though! When it was first built i think it was 42,000 but had a series of very quick upgrades that i didn't even have to ask for. It's the second largest in the Prem behind Old Trafford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 There is very little you can do but hope he changes his mind, but the problem is, even if he does the likely hood of it happening the next season is high. I would prob start looking for a replacement now by that time there must be a regen of similar ability you could snap up, especially if your rep has risen that much. Best of luck!! Yeah you are right. Luckily i already have many promising youngsters and established players in that postion (AMC) and i have to say i doubt we will even miss him. It's just the nostalgia thing really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 yeah i know what you mean it really gets to me losing a player who has been a hero for the club against my wishes, the team just doesnt seem the same afterwards, even if the replacement is a better player! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryMills Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I was just wondering, has there ever been an attacking midfielder irl at the elite level, who can tackle and mark like a world class defender? Ah, 'tis heartening to see the newgens' getting ever more eerily accurate imo. I'm thinking he could do with brushing up on passing and shooting, but what the hey, he can mark like a beast! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 Yeah HarryMills, he is one heck of a player. He actually started out as a central midfielder but i retrained him to an attacking midfielder 4 seasons ago as in matches he seemed more comfortable in that role. Can anyone tell me, if i was in this situation but on FM11, what tools would i have to try and get him to stay via the private chat option? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Yeah HarryMills, he is one heck of a player. He actually started out as a central midfielder but i retrained him to an attacking midfielder 4 seasons ago as in matching he seemed more comfortable in that role.Can anyone tell me, if i was in this situation but on FM11, what tools would i have to try and get him to stay via the private chat option? He would come to you and ask for a private chat, you will have a few different options for convincing him its better to stay, either through pleading or demanding, they seem to be more responsive in FM11 to this than they were in FM10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbells Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I usually jsut say that im looking to progress the club and they are integral to my plans, they usually buy it and stay for at least 2 more seasons. The unfortunate thing is when other clubs come in for them, currently barca are tapping up 5 of my players, and its damn frustrating, lost Neymar in january (albeit for 52 million) but thats not the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Yeah HarryMills, he is one heck of a player. He actually started out as a central midfielder but i retrained him to an attacking midfielder 4 seasons ago as in matches he seemed more comfortable in that role.Can anyone tell me, if i was in this situation but on FM11, what tools would i have to try and get him to stay via the private chat option? Praise him? Then try to convince him to stay by saying that there are still things to do in your club. When it comes to FM2010, I have never lost a player that wanted to leave for any reason. Just allow him to leave when the first conversation pops up, so that he is tranfer listed by request. After a few weeks he changes his mind. Always worked for me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 When it comes to FM2010, I have never lost a player that wanted to leave for any reason. You must have been very lucky then as the general feeling is that area of FM10 was bugged. What team were you? How many seasons did you play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I transfer list and sell at the end of the season during which they've asked to leave - as long as I'm unable to change their minds via chat (FM11 has its advantages over FM10) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 You must have been very lucky then as the general feeling is that area of FM10 was bugged. What team were you? How many seasons did you play? nine seasons with Southampton. Won the leagues the three first seasons, then a 6th place in the PL, then only PL victories the remaining 5 seasons. It was bugged yes. I just allowed them to leave (to a bigger club, new challenge etc), placed them on the transfer list on request... after a few weeks they wanted to stay anyways and requested to be taken off the transfer list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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