Genuine_quality Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 why is it whenever you use this option, your team ALWAYS plays worse than they did in the first half, its a complete joke, why not put something like play the same or ill break ya ****ing legs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine_quality Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 why is it whenever you use this option, your team ALWAYS plays worse than they did in the first half, its a complete joke, why not put something like play the same or ill break ya ****ing legs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal postie Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 my team sometimes paly well. sometimes they dont. i was one nil up against chelsea at half time. i told them not to loose concentration. carragher and gerrard were angry and confused, others were more focused. we kept the 1-0 score line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsonmcjones Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I use this regularly and to good effect. The trick is to apply it as the team-talk but then give any players who have rating less than 7 or morale worse than very good the appropriate individual talk. e.g. rating 6 or less/good morale = disappointed rating 7 or more/poor morale = you have faith rating 6 or less/poor morale = sub him I also do a little tactic tweak at 1/2 time too... maybe move 1 or 2 sliders 1 or 2 notches up or down depending on how the boys are playing. It does work. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcormack Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 i try not to use this team talk as it doesnt really seem to ever have a good effect for me but i would suggest trying what postie said as he seems to know what hes talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Graham Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Agree with OP- its the most useless teamtalk option. Nelson has a point but when your 3-0 up at HT you dont tend to have players on less than 7 or low ratings. With the way comebacks are so easy, this option is like a suicide button. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Print Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 When ever I use this or the 'I want a performance like this every week' team talk, the players get mad at me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_ACE Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 This team talk makes little sense to me too. Most times it does the opposite of what it actually represents. What do you do in that case though? Should you just not say anything at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirdez24 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 It only works in retrosepct after you've picked "pleased" with a two goal half-time lead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sirdez24: It only works in retrosepct after you've picked "pleased" with a two goal half-time lead. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> You should always pick pleased with a two or more goal lead. It's foolproof. In fact apart from "we can win this" (losing) or "encourage" (draw/one goal lead) it's the only half-time talk I use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 never have any issues from it, i find at the right time, used very sparingly it does the trick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Murphy's Law states that if anything bad can happen, it will. Therefore by using that option, your team's performances will drop. There are better talking options, though. But there are some players who become more determined after using that option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Generally speaking it works for me, but experienced players tend to get angry when I use it, so I change them to "pleased". Same happens with encourage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewe - Young Wenger Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 ill break ya ****ing legs now thats keano thinking ! and SI take notice we want this in fm 09 go !! your genuine quality! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietSpam Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 Uh, i hate this. My team are doing well, i tell them not to let their performace drop. Afet the game, they are all moaning. ****ers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickaldo Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 I've only ever used that teamtalk once and here is the result so i won't be using it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abertie2006 Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 Rickaldo all i can say is "oh dear" I have a copy of the game on its way to me and if thats what happens when you tell your team to not let the performance drop i certainly won't be using it!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickaldo Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 It's probably really useful in some situations but i just haven't found them out yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hunt Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Surprised. I always use 'don't get complacent'/'don't let your performance drop' at half time if I'm leading, and never get any player complaints. My squad character is determined/ driven - maybe this makes a difference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Roger Hunt: Surprised. I always use 'don't get complacent'/'don't let your performance drop' at half time if I'm leading, and never get any player complaints. My squad character is determined/ driven - maybe this makes a difference? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> My squad is highly professional/driven and half of them were confused/annoyed the ONE time i used it at half time, leading 4-0. The post-match .why can't you play like this every week?' is even more suicidal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hunt Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 If they're 4-0 up then I can kind of understand because it's questioning their ability pretty seriously. I mean if you were AC Milan 3-0 up at half-time in a CL final, you'd have a right to be pretty confident wouldn't you But in a game where I am 2-0 up and there is a reasonable balance of shots on goal I think I've got every right to tell them not to fall asleep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some guy.... Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Yeah, I don't use that. I want an option that could only be interpreted as "This is your chance at the first team, bugger it up and you're gone mate!" as well as "Bugger up again and you're out on your arse!". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glamdring Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Whatever I say at half time rarely works when we are 2-0 or better up. Saying I'm pleased generally causes the players to get complacent (except the odd stunning example) so we generally concede 1 or more. Saying don't let your performance drop generally results in a second half full of total dross, but we seem at least to concede less than we do if I say I'm pleased, we just never look like scoring again even if we played for another 9 hours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomis07 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I use it quite a lot, especially in Europe and have had a lot of success with it, sometimes going on from 2-0 to win 5-0. I think it may be because my team has a squad personality of "very determined" so they don't take it as an insult but take it as inspiration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hunt Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I think it is quite a negative way of saying a positive thing. Basically, if you have been the better side but are only a goal up, or if you are leading but the other side have had chances, you want to be able to say 'Go out and kill this game off, keep it tight but get another goal'. It's no good saying 'one more goal will do it' as we all know that if you're only 2-0 up in the last 5 minutes the AI will go 4-2-4 and snatch a point But when you're 4-0 up there needs to be an option that says 'No-one's ever scored more than 10 goals in a game in this competition, I'll bet you all £100 quic you can't get into the record books'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnard27 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 team talks can be used to great effect but you have to think about it but yea i agree with what you say, the team talks as a whole are useless and when i go to my "team talk feedback" most of the time the players "dont seem to be listening" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo-Bongo Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VonBlade: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sirdez24: It only works in retrosepct after you've picked "pleased" with a two goal half-time lead. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> You should always pick pleased with a two or more goal lead. It's foolproof. In fact apart from "we can win this" (losing) or "encourage" (draw/one goal lead) it's the only half-time talk I use. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I've found pleased is often suicidal. Even if I don't end up loosing, I have found that my team often plays poorly in the second half, giving the opposition a chance. If I'm more then a goal up, I have always found "don't let your performance drop" or "none" to be the most effective HT team talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 "Don't let your performance drop" is the team talk I use most often, to great effect. I don't use it every game, but proberbly 1 in 3 or 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glamdring Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 I used it yesterday after the most dominant 1st half I've possibly ever seen with my Werder Bremen team 0-3 up in Hannover, having had 68% possession and 87% pass completion. I guess the Hannover manager gave his team a half time roasting, but still, our second half performance was totally naff. We only bothered to create a proper goal scoring chance once they scored and whilst we were never in any danger of letting go the 3 points it was still disappointing to see the 2nd half performance and no chance of the real life Werder Bremen 6-1 Hannover result being repeated despite us being so much better than them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ash Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Barnard27: team talks can be used to great effect but you have to think about it but yea i agree with what you say, the team talks as a whole are useless and when i go to my "team talk feedback" most of the time the players "dont seem to be listening" </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I agree, only used pleased for a friendly and when I am really stuffing a team by half-time, and for individual players who scored or played really well. Usually, I use none "don't let your performance drop" or "none" for the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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