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5 minutes ago, Smurf said:

They're both nearly identical.

On the cyberpower one if you can add more ram then go for that.

Yeah from what I can tell, the differences is i5 vs i7, and 8GB RAM v 16Gb RAM. What do you feel is more important?

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4 minutes ago, DamianJMcGrath said:

Yeah from what I can tell, the differences is i5 vs i7, and 8GB RAM v 16Gb RAM. What do you feel is more important?

Well screen size is also different.

Obviously the i7 with the 16gb ram would be best.

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3 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Well screen size is also different.

Obviously the i7 with the 16gb ram would be best.

I can't see how to customise the i7 one. I'll keep trying to find out how I can, thanks for your help.

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2 hours ago, PrincessHammer said:

Thank you for all your help! Final question just wondering: while the Dell performed better in benchmarking and cpu would the surface laptop be more beneficial because it still did well but has a better graphics card? Will that lead to the most well rounded experience for football manager and the Sims?

Neither of them mention a dedicated graphics card that I can see, so I wouldn't like to speculate on which one is better in that regard. 

Graphics cards are not important when it comes to FM.  They're a nice to have to play at the highest 3D settings, but a halfway decent CPU should be good enough to display 3D at medium to high settings. 

I'm not so sure about The Sims though. 

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1 minute ago, Smurf said:

Yes I can, that's perfect. I was trying to built in on pcspecialist by adding the components and it was getting £1300+. That spec looks ideal, thanks for finding it for me. Last question (promise!), do you trust cyberpowersystem? I've never heard of it. In a perfect world, I'd get it off Amazon for peace of mind if anything goes wrong. I trust your opinion on here though. Do you think it's OK?

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4 minutes ago, DamianJMcGrath said:

Yes I can, that's perfect. I was trying to built in on pcspecialist by adding the components and it was getting £1300+. That spec looks ideal, thanks for finding it for me. Last question (promise!), do you trust cyberpowersystem? I've never heard of it. In a perfect world, I'd get it off Amazon for peace of mind if anything goes wrong. I trust your opinion on here though. Do you think it's OK?

Chassis & Display
Optimus Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor 9750H (2.6GHz, 4.5GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair 2400MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650 - 4.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB INTEL® 660p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 1500MB/sR | 1000MB/sW)
Thermal Paste
COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND
 

Price: £1,102.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/optimusX-v2-17/hwNt2dJZQz/

 

There you go - choice is yours. 

Section 6 in the link to configure the install of which Web Browser etc.

 

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I bought a new laptop recently and pretty much bought the cheapest i could find. I always do this as my requirements are fairly basic, just browsing and FM which said laptop always ran albeit slowly at times.

This time however i foolishly bought a Linux one which obviously doesn't support FM20. I am considering trying to sell this one and pick up another cheapish one that will play FM. Wondering if the below would support it? I know it's only got 4GB RAM vs the recomended 8GB but i'm only really concerned with if it will play. I'm not really worried if it will be a bit slow or if you can't load many leagues etc. Appreciate any advice.

GEO Book 1 11.6" Intel® Celeron® Laptop - 32 GB eMMC, Black

Windows 10
Intel® Celeron® N4000 Processor
RAM: 4 GB / Storage: 32 GB eMMC
Full HD display

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17 minutes ago, Degag said:

I bought a new laptop recently and pretty much bought the cheapest i could find. I always do this as my requirements are fairly basic, just browsing and FM which said laptop always ran albeit slowly at times.

This time however i foolishly bought a Linux one which obviously doesn't support FM20. I am considering trying to sell this one and pick up another cheapish one that will play FM. Wondering if the below would support it? I know it's only got 4GB RAM vs the recomended 8GB but i'm only really concerned with if it will play. I'm not really worried if it will be a bit slow or if you can't load many leagues etc. Appreciate any advice.

GEO Book 1 11.6" Intel® Celeron® Laptop - 32 GB eMMC, Black

Windows 10
Intel® Celeron® N4000 Processor
RAM: 4 GB / Storage: 32 GB eMMC
Full HD display

You could just buy a windows license

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/247804/how-to-remove-linux-and-install-windows-on-your-computer

In terms of playabity - not a chance in high heavens.

 

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Hi.

I'm looking to get a desktop PC that's easily able to run FM20.

Got a budget of around £500. Would prefer a pre built one if possible.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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4 minutes ago, walker98 said:

Thanks for the reply.

But I'm looking for a PC, not a laptop.

Is that possible for the price?

Do you already have a monitor?

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5 hours ago, DamianJMcGrath said:

Yes I can, that's perfect. I was trying to built in on pcspecialist by adding the components and it was getting £1300+. That spec looks ideal, thanks for finding it for me. Last question (promise!), do you trust cyberpowersystem? I've never heard of it. In a perfect world, I'd get it off Amazon for peace of mind if anything goes wrong. I trust your opinion on here though. Do you think it's OK?

I've bought 3 full PCs and a laptop from them over the past 5 years (PC each for me, the missus and my stepson, and a laptop to take away with us on holiday, etc), and never had a single issue with them, and had good customer service whenever I needed to contact them.

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6 minutes ago, Bugdog7 said:

Hey mate, do you know how well this works? I'm looking at getting a laptop to play it on. 

No mate sorry.

I'm looking for advice for a PC myself.

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26 minutes ago, Bugdog7 said:

Hey mate, do you know how well this works? I'm looking at getting a laptop to play it on. 

What sort of setup are you looking for with FM?  And what else would you be looking to use the laptop for?

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Just now, kevhamster said:

What sort of setup are you looking for with FM?  And what else would you be looking to use the laptop for?

I'm happy with the standard 5 leagues, but would like to watch the game in 3D. I'd also use it for general internet browsing, Microsoft.

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4 minutes ago, Bugdog7 said:

I'm happy with the standard 5 leagues, but would like to watch the game in 3D. I'd also use it for general internet browsing, Microsoft.

Should be absolutely fine for that.  I'd imagine it should be able to manage at least medium settings for 3D (possibly more, but couldn't swear to it.  I have a 5th gen i3 which played FM19's 3D at medium, and this is a higher spec core CPU and a newer generation).

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1 minute ago, kevhamster said:

Should be absolutely fine for that.  I'd imagine it should be able to manage at least medium settings for 3D (possibly more, but couldn't swear to it.  I have a 5th gen i3 which played FM19's 3D at medium, and this is a higher spec core CPU and a newer generation).

Ok sweet. Thanks for your help mate!

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It's really not easy to settle for a laptop...

Had decided to go for the Lenovo Ideapad l340, but i dont like the cooling system it has - wich is underneath the laptop. 

So now i have decided to go for the Lenovo Legion y540 with the Intel core i5-9300H. It  seems to have a much better cooling system. So i was about to order it, but now im wondering on one more thing:

Is it worth to pay around £250 extra to get the Core i7-9750H? Or will the i5 be more than good enough for FM?

Im only using this for FM.

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I would say, likely no its not going to give you such a large boost, certainly to be worth £250, the only exception in FM terms would be if you like to play with lots of leagues set to full detail in the detail level screen (that is using the full match engine) but even then not really sure its worth £250!

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6 minutes ago, EdL said:

I would say, likely no its not going to give you such a large boost, certainly to be worth £250, the only exception in FM terms would be if you like to play with lots of leagues set to full detail in the detail level screen (that is using the full match engine) but even then not really sure its worth £250!

I usually dont have more than 5-6 leagues selected..

One more thing: It has 8Gb ram. Will that be enough or should i upgrade to 16? And what exactly does ram do for you in FM?

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8GB is enough for FM itself, then it depends how much other stuff you want to have open at the same time, FM with 5 leagues I'd be surprised if you ever exceed 2GB used, depends a bit on graphics detail level though.

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Hey, was just wondering if this would be a decent option? 

https://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=7ZF76EA&opt=ABU&sel=NTB

Budget is probably up to about £500 ideally, used to work at HP and still get some money off there which brings it down to roughly £340. Seems alright to me, but I know next to nothing about AMD tech so thought I'd just double check! Would only really use it for FM/the web/running the odd (non-intensive) python script.

Thanks guys!

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59 minutes ago, stats94 said:

Hey, was just wondering if this would be a decent option? 

https://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=7ZF76EA&opt=ABU&sel=NTB

Budget is probably up to about £500 ideally, used to work at HP and still get some money off there which brings it down to roughly £340. Seems alright to me, but I know next to nothing about AMD tech so thought I'd just double check! Would only really use it for FM/the web/running the odd (non-intensive) python script.

Thanks guys!

Depends largely on what sort of setup on FM you want.  Seems to score very closely to the Ryzen 5 2500U I have in single core performance.

It won't be Earth-shatteringly quick, but if you don't run a ton of leagues it should be acceptable.  For reference, I run 8 countries with all divisions on mine and find the speed to be fine.

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Hi Everyone. Looking to get a laptop, mainly for FM20 but also to do a bit of light work as well.

I would normally load either the top 2 leagues from 4/5 countries or all leagues from 2/3 countries. I would only use 2D graphics and would ideally like a large database but could cope with medium.

 

Budget wise I am looking to do it as cheap as possible really as I’m not going to be spending hours on end playing each day. But I am happy to push the boat out a bit further if it means getting a much better machine.

I do have access to 20% off laptops at Very.co.uk (including sale).

After having a quick look I have come across these and wondered if the first one would run FM and my needs smoothly and if the second one would be worth the extra money. I am also more than happy to look at alternatives on Very or elsewhere if there is anything that stands out.

Cheap option. Would cost around £265 after discount...would it run FM smoothly?

https://www.very.co.uk/lenovo-ideapad-330snbspintel-core-i3-8130u-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd-14-inch-full-hd-laptop-grey/1600408613.prd

 

Other option - is it worth the price difference? Would be £440 after discount.

 

https://www.very.co.uk/asus-fx505dy-bq009t-amd-ryzen-5-8gb-ram-256gb-ssd-amd-rx560x-graphics-156-inch-full-hdnbspgaming-laptop-black/1600420476.prd

 

Any help would be massively appreciated! Matt

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Hi Everyone,

Currently looking at purchasing the Macbook Pro 2019 version but only the most basic model.

Will FM2020 work ok with the below spec please?

  • 1.4GHz quad-core 8th-generation Intel Core i5 processor
  • Turbo Boost up to 3.9GHz
  • Intel Iris Plus Graphics 645
  • 8GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
  • 128GB SSD storage1

Cheers 

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2 hours ago, mbourne said:

Cheap option. Would cost around £265 after discount...would it run FM smoothly?

https://www.very.co.uk/lenovo-ideapad-330snbspintel-core-i3-8130u-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd-14-inch-full-hd-laptop-grey/1600408613.prd

 

Other option - is it worth the price difference? Would be £440 after discount.

https://www.very.co.uk/asus-fx505dy-bq009t-amd-ryzen-5-8gb-ram-256gb-ssd-amd-rx560x-graphics-156-inch-full-hdnbspgaming-laptop-black/1600420476.prd

 

Any help would be massively appreciated! Matt

Much of a muchness - the first one has no graphics card except the internal one on the cpu.

The other one has a slightly lesser processor - but a graphics card.

I'd go on the 2nd one if you want to play graphics on a slightly higher setting.

1 hour ago, Pies_1988 said:

Hi Everyone,

Currently looking at purchasing the Macbook Pro 2019 version but only the most basic model.

Will FM2020 work ok with the below spec please?

  • 1.4GHz quad-core 8th-generation Intel Core i5 processor
  • Turbo Boost up to 3.9GHz
  • Intel Iris Plus Graphics 645
  • 8GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
  • 128GB SSD storage1

Cheers 

Well min spec for a mac is 1.8ghz. 

But should do - the 128gb storage will be a stumbling block about 6 months down the road.

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9 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Much of a muchness - the first one has no graphics card except the internal one on the cpu.

The other one has a slightly lesser processor - but a graphics card.

I'd go on the 2nd one if you want to play graphics on a slightly higher setting.

Well min spec for a mac is 1.8ghz. 

But should do - the 128gb storage will be a stumbling block about 6 months down the road.

Cheers, hoping it would be fine. Don't usually run many leagues, usually just the English ones. In terms of the 128gb - stumbling block for FM or in general terms?

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11 minutes ago, Pies_1988 said:

Cheers, hoping it would be fine. Don't usually run many leagues, usually just the English ones. In terms of the 128gb - stumbling block for FM or in general terms?

IN general. Might need to get yourself an external drive.

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Hi,

I’m looking at buying a new laptop mainly for uni work and FM! My budget is roughly £400 but could be willing to go higher for a good deal! Usually look to play 5 English Leagues, 2 German and 1 Spanish if this is possible? Graphics aren’t overly important to me , playing in 3D would be a bonus but certainly not essential. Have had a little look online and wonder if any of the 3 below would be ok.

Lenovo IdeaPad S340

  • AMD Ryzen 3200U
  • RAM 8GB / 128GB SSD GB

HP 15s-fq0002na

  • Intel® Core™ i3-7020U (2.3 GHz base frequency, 3 MB cache, 2 cores)
  • 8 GB memory; 128 GB SSD storage

Acer Aspire 5

  • AMD Ryzen 5 3500U Processor
  • RAM: 8 GB / Storage: 256 GB SSD

Thanks in Advance

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3 hours ago, Smurf said:

Much of a muchness - the first one has no graphics card except the internal one on the cpu.

The other one has a slightly lesser processor - but a graphics card.

I'd go on the 2nd one if you want to play graphics on a slightly higher setting.

Thanks for the feedback. Do you think the first one would run quite smoothly? If I were to run 4/5 countries with top 2 leagues or all leagues in England?

£265 just seems like a really good deal but obviously only if I can play the game.

 

cheers. Matt

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Hi everyone, FM19 was my first year playing FM. Played it on an old 2013 mac book air, which was pretty slow but ok. Looking to get a laptop that's hopefully little faster. Usually I play long term saves with 10-12 leagues loaded. I also play in 2D, but watch 3D replays of goals.

My budget is around $600 - $700 (I think thats like £450 to £550).

Thanks in advance! 

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I want to buy a new laptop for FM 20 and want your opinion. I like to play 3D with high graphics, Quick loading and a good database for the next years. 

I found a laptop of Asus with this specs: 15,6 inch, RAM 16GB, Nvidia GeForce GTX1050 with 4GB workmemory, Full HD(1080p), refresh rate of 60hz, Intel core i7, turbo speed 4,1GHz, cash memory 9MB, SSD(256GB) +HDD (1000GB)

What's your opinion? 

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3 hours ago, Pietervdl said:

I want to buy a new laptop for FM 20 and want your opinion. I like to play 3D with high graphics, Quick loading and a good database for the next years. 

I found a laptop of Asus with this specs: 15,6 inch, RAM 16GB, Nvidia GeForce GTX1050 with 4GB workmemory, Full HD(1080p), refresh rate of 60hz, Intel core i7, turbo speed 4,1GHz, cash memory 9MB, SSD(256GB) +HDD (1000GB)

What's your opinion? 

OR is it beter to have a refresh rate of 120-144 Hz

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9 hours ago, mbourne said:

Thanks for the feedback. Do you think the first one would run quite smoothly? If I were to run 4/5 countries with top 2 leagues or all leagues in England?

£265 just seems like a really good deal but obviously only if I can play the game.

 

cheers. Matt

Yes, it will.  The single core performance in that one looks decent and should handle that setup with no trouble at all.  As Smurf said, the main stumbling block could be if you want to run the matches in 3D, as the other one has better graphics capability - but I've got an older i3, which isn't as good, which ran FM19 3D at medium, but lagged to hell with anything more.  I'd be surprised if it the newer one was worse.

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1 hour ago, Pietervdl said:

OR is it beter to have a refresh rate of 120-144 Hz

Totally irrelevent purely for FM - you won't need anything more than 60Hz.  Depends on what else you're doing with the laptop.

And that setup sounds good on the surface, however without knowing exactly what the CPU is it is hard to say.  Just saying it's an i7 doesn't narrow it down much, as there have been many of them, over several generations of processors.

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4 hours ago, hammersnc said:

Hi everyone, FM19 was my first year playing FM. Played it on an old 2013 mac book air, which was pretty slow but ok. Looking to get a laptop that's hopefully little faster. Usually I play long term saves with 10-12 leagues loaded. I also play in 2D, but watch 3D replays of goals.

My budget is around $600 - $700 (I think thats like £450 to £550).

Thanks in advance! 

I assume for that kind of money, you're looking to move to Windows rather than buy a new mac??!

Also, because we have no idea what country you're from it's probably a good idea to look on some websites that will deliver to you, look at some laptops within your budget and put them up and ask about them if you're unsure whether they'll work or not.  it won't do you any good having us do that kind of searching only to find that the website in question doesn't ship to your country.

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59 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

Totally irrelevent purely for FM - you won't need anything more than 60Hz.  Depends on what else you're doing with the laptop.

And that setup sounds good on the surface, however without knowing exactly what the CPU is it is hard to say.  Just saying it's an i7 doesn't narrow it down much, as there have been many of them, over several generations of processors.

I only play FM on my laptop. 

Processor

Intel Core i7

Processor-nummer

8750H

Processor kernen

Hexa core (6)

Processor codenaam

Coffee Lake

Kloksnelheid

2,2 GHz

Turbo snelheid

4,1 GHz

Cachegeheugen

9 MB

Is this enough info to say something about the i7 processor? 

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22 minutes ago, Pietervdl said:

I only play FM on my laptop. 

Processor

Intel Core i7

Processor-nummer

8750H

Processor kernen

Hexa core (6)

Processor codenaam

Coffee Lake

Kloksnelheid

2,2 GHz

Turbo snelheid

4,1 GHz

Cachegeheugen

9 MB

Is this enough info to say something about the i7 processor? 

Yep, that's perfect.  And that is a very strong processor which will have no issue with FM at all.

That laptop will be able to run FM very well with a large database, and the graphics card will handle FM at the highest 3D settings no problem.

One thing I will say, is if you're playing FM20 there have been reports of the 3D engine lagging even on high-end systems like this one would be, so you may find that - it seems to be an issue with the game more than anything and I'm sure it'll be ironed out before the full launch.

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12 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

Yep, that's perfect.  And that is a very strong processor which will have no issue with FM at all.

That laptop will be able to run FM very well with a large database, and the graphics card will handle FM at the highest 3D settings no problem.

One thing I will say, is if you're playing FM20 there have been reports of the 3D engine lagging even on high-end systems like this one would be, so you may find that - it seems to be an issue with the game more than anything and I'm sure it'll be ironed out before the full launch.

Thanks for your help. In this years bèta I had some problems playing 3D on high quality. That's why I want to buy a new one. Was never happy with my Acer anyway. Could it be that the bèta has some problems that effect the 3D on my Acer now? Or is my laptop too old for smooth 3D? I have now Acer with I5-4210H 2.9GHz with turbo boost up to 3,5GHz.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M with 4GB dedicated VRAM and 8GB memory. I also have HDD and No SDD

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24 minutes ago, Pietervdl said:

Thanks for your help. In this years bèta I had some problems playing 3D on high quality. That's why I want to buy a new one. Was never happy with my Acer anyway. Could it be that the bèta has some problems that effect the 3D on my Acer now? Or is my laptop too old for smooth 3D? I have now Acer with I5-4210H 2.9GHz with turbo boost up to 3,5GHz.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M with 4GB dedicated VRAM and 8GB memory. I also have HDD and No SDD

It could well be the issue a lot of people have been reporting on.  That system should be able to handle 3D at high settings given it has a reasonable dedicated graphics card included.  The processor, whilst a few years old, is not awful by any stretch and should be able to handle FM too.

Now, you would definitely get better performance out of the new one overall, that is without a doubt - however, if the only reason you're looking at buying a new one is because you've had issues with 3D on the beta, it may be a good idea to hang on to see how it is after the full launch.

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20 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

It could well be the issue a lot of people have been reporting on.  That system should be able to handle 3D at high settings given it has a reasonable dedicated graphics card included.  The processor, whilst a few years old, is not awful by any stretch and should be able to handle FM too.

Now, you would definitely get better performance out of the new one overall, that is without a doubt - however, if the only reason you're looking at buying a new one is because you've had issues with 3D on the beta, it may be a good idea to hang on to see how it is after the full launch.

Thanks 

 

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4 hours ago, kevhamster said:

Yep, that's perfect.  And that is a very strong processor which will have no issue with FM at all.

That laptop will be able to run FM very well with a large database, and the graphics card will handle FM at the highest 3D settings no problem.

One thing I will say, is if you're playing FM20 there have been reports of the 3D engine lagging even on high-end systems like this one would be, so you may find that - it seems to be an issue with the game more than anything and I'm sure it'll be ironed out before the full launch.

I found exactly the same laptop for €100 less. The only difference is 8GB RAM while the more expensive one has 16GB RAM. But I play only FM without other programs on the back so I think 8GB is enough? 

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1 minute ago, Pietervdl said:

I found exactly the same laptop for €100 less. The only difference is 8GB RAM while the more expensive one has 16GB RAM. But I play only FM without other programs on the back so I think 8GB is enough? 

8GB should be absolutely fine for FM.  I've never had a problem with that amount!

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