eloq Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 wow this tactic broke the game for me. switched to this 1/3 way into the season whilst being 12 points away from leaders PSG but still won the league + champs league. 2nd season Monaco (pretty much same players + Moussa Dembele (50 goals) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardhck Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 which tactic is most suitable with LL ? i tried burney IWB, but still plenty of goals conceded thru crossing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshbrady91 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Standard is the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieGrocott Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Was looking to use this for my LL save, obviously i can't really use a CF with the players i have at my disposal. What would you recommend using instead? Was thinking of a f9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 Surprised you have a F9. I would not recommend changing just ignore the role issue. Also try re training as CF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossroader Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I agree with some of feedbacks about standard version, performance of the team is really stable and scoring is great. Regarding attacking version i think stronger teams can be real beasts with it. Its great to see 433 tactic among all these 352 and 3412! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 Just to show I don't always have players for roles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesutozil1992 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 tactic didn't work in matches with strong teams,although I have a very strong team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 I'm using std version at home and 3412 away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggenstein Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxieffc Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Eggenstein which version are you using ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggenstein Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 40 minutes ago, coxieffc said: Eggenstein which version are you using ?? standard from the first post, sold one of my best players too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxieffc Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Thanks is that with Iwb Burnley ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggenstein Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 41 minutes ago, coxieffc said: Thanks is that with Iwb Burnley ?? nope, standard the second one down in the first post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TioPatinhax Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 7 hours ago, knap said: I'm using std version at home and 3412 away where is the 3412 away tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Its the ordinary 3421. I'm just using in away games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardhck Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 knap. your 433 possession only 45 to 51%, is it normal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TioPatinhax Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 9 hours ago, knap said: Its the ordinary 3421. I'm just using in away games. Cant seem to find it mate, can you guide me to it please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TioPatinhax Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Thanks. Is it possible to train these 2 tactics at the same time , and get them both to work properly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 Not a problem using many tactics, in fact the last season I did with Spurs I used at least 5, and last year with Margate probably 10. I tend to only use 1 because I'm normally testing and its a lot easier and you can get into a groove. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex Hammer Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Hi Knap, Just an update on the change from Blue Matter to the 4132 I posted about on page 1. Changed the anchor to a BWM D and on home games I use wing backs but away games use IWB's. Also have tinkered a bit with last years KnapHammer 4141 and made it counter attack and thumped Liverpool 4-0 at Anfield! So swap between the three and the second season has gone quite nicely so far! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omarm88 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Very underrated tactic imo. Having lots of success with it. Just using the attacking version Monaco (3 league titles in a row, lots of french cups and just won Champions league). 35 WINS Champions League Final Newcastle United (easily won the championship first season and finished 3rd in the Premier league first season) Oxford United (Easily won league 1 first season and got easily won the Playoffs the following season with £0 spent) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilNUFC Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Going to go home and turn DLF to and AP out wide right and turn the CF into Reaudemteur on the left wing and see what happens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aStRaLoN Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 The tactic that has served me best. I mainly use it for games against teams equal or weaker than mine (Atletico Bilbao). Against stronger teams i mainly use Franky's Total Domination tactic. I also happen to manage Holland along with Bilbao. The Dutch under-perform with Franky's tactics but they shine and sparkle with this one. I must admit that if you use this tactic your team won't do as brilliant in defense but as soon as your team get accustomed with the tactic it will play some very, very attractive football. This tactic is a real gem, kudos to you @knap P.S: @knap in case your are still watching this thread, i wanted to ask you, are there any specifics you can give us about the tactic. For example: 1) I would like to employ this tactic against stronger teams (e.g against Real Madrid home and away) can i change from attacking to defensive or contain, would that do the trick to avoid defeat? 2) Sometimes i have a slim lead (1-0, 2-1 etc), would it be better to protect that lead by changing the mentality to standard? 3) Can i change the CM (support) to a BBM (so there will be 2 of them in the middle) and the CM (attack) to Roaming Playmaker or Advanced Playmaker? Also when i need to defend more can i change one of the CMs to Deep Lying Playmaker or a Ball winning one? Once again, thank you for your brilliant tactic(s) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 Against stronger teams try GOODBYE 3430. I would consider switching to GOODBYE (underdog) or WOF (top team) 3430 or 3421 tactics, as long term testing has shown these to be better than 4 at back. My SUS tactics use contain and play safer take fewer risks as per screenshot. With a back 4 I also stop WB runs (defend), but can also try defensive FBs as they stay back. Changing roles or duties goes into the unknown, so you will need to try to see what happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aStRaLoN Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Thank you for your quick reply @knap. I will try the tactics you pointed out and apply the instructions on the screenshot at the present tactic when in need to preserve the lead or to defend hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmfan00 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I have used the attacking tactic of the blue matter and in 4 games since switching I have gone 4-0 2 clean sheets and 11 GF 2 GA and playing as a MLS academy so i have no good players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martplfc1 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Won the league at a canter with this with Barcelona, but got some serious hammerings by Real Madrid (2-5) and Atletico (0-7 ) away from home. Switching between standard and attacking didn't seem to have any effect. Any suggestions for a bit more caution away from home against top teams? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Did you try the Burnley IWB version away from home. If dropping mentality to std or counter I would change WB roles to support aNd perhaps CM A to CM D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share Posted September 5, 2017 High scoring BLUE MATTER 433 Attack ¬FM17.3.1KnapBLUEMATTER433P102F136_A809644D-BBAA-424D-A91B-816212B6825E.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter86 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hi Knap, what is your best balanced balance in your opinion? blue matter standard? I direct the Juventus and wanted to know which best tactic you have available according to long-term tests ... would you also advise me for a defensive and offensive tactic? Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 BLUE MATTER is more a high scoring tactic rather than balanced, may be a HOME tactic although top team both home and away. Many use WOF 3430 Home GOODBYE 3430 Away The tactics get tested over 180 games and I do sometimes run a 4 season test. GOODBYE DIRECT 3430 is now perhaps the strongest underdog away tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 BLUE MATTER with Barcelona Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piaz88 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 hey knap what do u think which role in bluematter could fit 2 thomas müller? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 I often play with players I do not know, and just let AM pick. After a few games I may decide to change the set up. Also during games I can change players positions so do not consider players to be role specific, just base it on how they perform on pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swat780 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 On 5/9/2017 at 23:32, knap said: High scoring BLUE MATTER 433 Attack ¬FM17.3.1KnapBLUEMATTER433P102F136_A809644D-BBAA-424D-A91B-816212B6825E.fmf This link not working... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swat780 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 On 4/7/2017 at 11:15, omarm88 said: Very underrated tactic imo. Having lots of success with it. Just using the attacking version Monaco (3 league titles in a row, lots of french cups and just won Champions league). 35 WINS Champions League Final Newcastle United (easily won the championship first season and finished 3rd in the Premier league first season) Oxford United (Easily won league 1 first season and got easily won the Playoffs the following season with £0 spent) With which tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 BLUE MATTER 4132 B¬FM17.3.1KnapBLUEMATTER433P1024132P99_8ADCB751-FB2F-41FA-B96F-8F69771FE3B1.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 4132 Using Anchor with Burnley ¬FM17.3.1KnapHammmerBLUEMATTER4132BURNLEYP84_430ADC2B-4F57-4272-8713-E06B06BA5210.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davelincs Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 knap have you done a 4-1-2-2-1 tactic? with 2 cm's and 2 amc's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 I tend to use a X tree formation with CMs but I would just push up a CD from this tactic. BBB¬!FM17.3.1GOODBYE34120THP104P4122198_38FE5A7C-62BB-450C-A7B7-567A0DA7A219.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tottijim Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 9 minutes ago, knap said: I tend to use a X tree formation with CMs but I would just push up a CD from this tactic. How it went in your test??looking good...reminds ac milan. X tree...with ancelloti Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 98PTS but that is just a simple push up with no PIs. Also depends what team you wish to use and how you want the DM to play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tottijim Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Make one with goodbye to see how it goes and if its worth it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 That is probably GOODBYE as a base, which is not a huge point scorer with Spurs as a more underdog tactic. Can do this with WOF if top team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 Added tactic above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davelincs Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 7 hours ago, knap said: I tend to use a X tree formation with CMs but I would just push up a CD from this tactic. BBB¬!FM17.3.1GOODBYE34120THP104P4122198_38FE5A7C-62BB-450C-A7B7-567A0DA7A219.fmf Thank you very much mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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