Cycstorm Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 This sucks. In my Arsenal save he was quite possibly the best player in the world at 23. By 26 injuries had wrecked him completely (4 torn hamstrings in 2 seasons - 3 months a pop). By 28 he was so useless I barely played him anymore so he came to me telling me he wanted to leave the club to "Seek a new challenge." He turned down PSG, Sevilla, Napoli, Galatasary and Tottenham to sign for...West Brom... Has anyone had him where he didn't succumb to injuries (almost all of which were on frickin England duty I might add)? How good did he turn out to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamez Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 i had the same thing but got him to liverpool was dominating for a season and a half then broken leg and so many i will find a screen shot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
perpetua Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I think he's fine if you make sure not to overuse him. But he is an injury prone player so luck is always going to be a factor. For me he has: apps(sub) gls/assists: 2012/13: 25(11) 9/11 2013/14: 42( 6) 17/13 2014/15: 50 12/25 Transfer to Liverpool (15.5m Euro + Raheem Sterling) 2015/16: 24(18) 15/10 2016/17: 31( 9) 12/12 2017/18: 31( 6) 16/ 4 2018/19: 39( 8) 21/ 6 2019/20: 35( 5) 11/ 3 2020/21: 10( 5) 1/ 3 (in November 2020) Injuries 2012/13: 6 days 2013/14: 4 weeks 2014/15: 2 weeks 2015/16: 4 weeks 2016/17: 3 months + 3 weeks 2017/18: 4 weeks 2018/19: None 2019/20: None 2020/21: None (in November 2020) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Fandel Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 To be honest, the way things are going, in real life there is about a 50/50 chance that he could be done by his late twenties, due to injury. I don't have any problem with that being replicated in game. perpetua and tefal's posts show it isn't a given his career will be ruined, so it seems fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tefal Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I've got to 2025 as Arsenal Manager (on hold at the moment due to my second crash dump enforced break) and Wilshere has been a regular in my team all that time. He's played around 30 league games a season and only suffered 3 injuries that have kept him out for over a month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardog Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 In 2019 i moved to real madrid. Needed to rebuild a side, had lots of money to spend. He was my first signing. Well him and Ericksen. Oscar arrived later too add competition, but when he plays well, we always win. He just makes us tick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazbowski Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I don't like the way injuries are done in the game, I mean Bale and RVP are always injured long term in any game i've started. RVP hasn't been injured in pretty much 2 years and Bale is very rarely out. Injury prone should be dynamic in some way. Wilshere isn'[t injury prone in any way in real life, he's had 1 serious injuy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cplpeters1900 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I don't like the way injuries are done in the game, I mean Bale and RVP are always injured long term in any game i've started. RVP hasn't been injured in pretty much 2 years and Bale is very rarely out. Injury prone should be dynamic in some way. Wilshere isn'[t injury prone in any way in real life, he's had 1 serious injuy. Trouble is you have to remember that Wilshires period out was down to injury on top of injury on top of injury, everytime he got near fitness he got injured again, therefore I would say he is injury prone... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Fandel Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Trouble is you have to remember that Wilshires period out was down to injury on top of injury on top of injury, everytime he got near fitness he got injured again, therefore I would say he is injury prone... I agree, at the very least he has had 2 serious injuries, even though it was techinically the same thing.His career could go either way, and this seems to be adequately represented by FM, with most people reporting he's fine, and a few saying he is wrecked. Sounds like around the same percentage chance to me. It is still frustrating when something like a 3 month injury knocks down your players PA though, but I agree when it happens for longer ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 what is his injury proneness? i have similar problems with only injury proneness of 14, lucky I manage England so can keep that side of the injures under control. only had him complete back to back games for the first time recently, every other time he gets a gash, or a bruise midway through the first half, gets frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cycstorm Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Having played now to 2022 I have come to notice that torn hamstrings specifically are brutally punishing to PA. More so seemingly than other injuries. Every time I have a potentially great player whose ability just seems to evorate - and it has happened a few times - there always seem to be a couple of torn hamstrings at the center of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Obviously his physical attributes are on the decline now but he's still a fantastic player, as you can see he had a few injuries from 2016-2018 but overall turned out world class. All AI trained I never managed him at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cycstorm Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Tough to compare. On my save he tore his hamstring 4 times in quick succession, and only once in your game. But in my game he never broke his ankle a second time. Not many players will come back from two broken ankles to be world class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmFutbolManager Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 How do you find out he is injury prone 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhay53 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I refuse to buy a player if my scouts say injury proneness is a weakness. Even if he's 5 stars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 used geniescout, was bugging me so best way to look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winto Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 He's cracking on my game. Ive just taken over as England manager, and at 30 he is still the best English player in the squad. He stayed at Arsenal all his career and has been their main man all that time. (It took Wenger's retirement for Arsenal to start being successful though...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janesy20 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128418356 the first two big injuries were the IRL injuries...only 3 other minor injuries - 3 seasons in...touch wood he stays that way. It should also be noted that although he is my first choice he is rotated round with Shinji Kagawa on a ratio of 3:1 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 i used a rotation policy in FM12 when on my blackpool save to manage the known injury magnet of Wilfried, it works, until injuries force you to play players you wouln't normally play, making more injures. that isn't as bad for me in FM13. it is just happening randomly, not because of any reason like fitness due to games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crewe_york Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Obviously his physical attributes are on the decline now but he's still a fantastic player, as you can see he had a few injuries from 2016-2018 but overall turned out world class. All AI trained I never managed him at all. Jesus Christ, you sure you had no hand in that? What a career! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixmkz Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Really? I have Wilshere on my team and and in-game editor shows that his injury proneness rating is only 4... here is how he looks on my save: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Jesus Christ, you sure you had no hand in that? What a career! Nothing to do with me I was slogging my way through the Brazilian lower leagues during nearly all of his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saamturnbull Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 He moved to Man U in my game: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cycstorm Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 All just luck and numbers I guess. In the above poster's ^ game he somehow went 4 years without a single injury of any kind. I was lucky if he went 4 months. Although I still maintain that in my experience Torn Hamstring specifically does farr too much damage to PA this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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